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Y&Co. - POODLE [OsuMania]

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17VA
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Topic Starter
17VA
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2014년 2월 13일 목요일 at 오전 12:51:00

Artist: Y&Co.
Title: POODLE
Source: beatmania IIDX
Tags: 12th happy sky konami expew -_R_u_m_i_a_-
BPM: 160
Filesize: 2452kb
Play Time: 01:57
Difficulties Available:
  1. 4K Hyper - 4Key (3.02 stars, 747 notes)
  2. 4K Normal - 4Key (2.13 stars, 525 notes)
  3. 7K HyPew - 7Key (4.08 stars, 925 notes)
  4. 7K White Another - 7Key (5 stars, 1539 notes)
Download: Y&Co. - POODLE
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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http://puu.sh/6T691.osu rip rumi diff

white another last part by rumi
Last edited by 17VA , edited 49 times in total.
ExPew
Elite Mapper
1,220 posts
Joined January 2011
ExPew
http://puu.sh/5mCvc.rar - Hyper
[Shi-Ra]
458 posts
Joined October 2012
[Shi-Ra]
Hi Inava and EtPew, there are mods for your diffs ^w^

Shi-Ra's Patterns Review & Hitsound re-check:
(notice that columns are following like 0 1 2 3 for 4K diffs)
4K Beginner
Inside :3
This diff looks harder than Beginner coz of note count, I suggest you to make it easier and cut chords by ~30% coz it really hard for beginner without any exceptions.

00:10:403 (10403|3) - move to 1st column, that's better for your pattern here according to difficulty, so I suggest you to make stair pattern here

00:19:028 (19028|3,19778|1) - you can delete these notes coz it's enough to use one note for backbeat

00:22:778 (22778|2) - delete this note, same reason like above, it's hard to play many chords for beginner

00:42:090 (42090|0) - I recommend you to delete such notes, it's more comfortable to follow only the beat for your difficulty

01:06:840 (66840|0) - this note should be here 01:07:215 - according to the clap sound, check that

01:15:840 (75840|1) - if you wanna accent this part with this and previous note, so add Hi-hat HS to this note, coz there's no suitable sound according to the song

01:29:903 (89903|2) - move to 1st column, it'll be more suitable for your pattern here and you can avoid shield note here which is uncomfortable to play

01:44:434 (104434|2) - move to 0 column, then 01:44:903 (104903|0) - move to 2nd column, I think that's more suitable LN transition here for novice level

01:57:090 (117090|0,117090|3) - you better add here Crash cymbal HS, it'll be more suitable for ending part according to the song

4K Normal
Inside :3
00:12:934 - Here I suggest you to use this pattern, I think that's more suitable here according to your patterns

00:15:840 (15840|2) - move to 1st column, make difference between note pairs here, it wouldn't ruin your pattern

00:20:715 and 00:21:090 - you can add one more notes with Hi-hat HS like you did it previously, it'lll be better but hard a little

00:30:653 (30653|1) - notes with different sounds in one column? oh you, move this note to another column, at least to 2nd

Here again 00:33:465 - I suggest you to use this pattern that's better than four notes in same column, so I hiighly recommend you to rearrange such parts

00:43:778 (43778|2) - move to 3rd column coz of two different sounds which goes there

00:57:278 (57278|2,57653|1) - delete these notes, three notes chord aren't suitable for NM at all, you can accent the beat with simple chords here

Second part of this diff looks good except some overnote parts for NM, please make it easier and cut some chords and streams by ~15%, delete notes in three note chords and make easier LN patterns according to your difficulty, now it's light hard at least, not NM.

(notice that columns are following like 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 for 7K diffs)
7K HyPew
Inside :3
Like alternation in the middle of this diff, that's really cool \o/

00:19:215 (19215|4) - move this note to 2nd column and then 00:19:590 (19590|2) - move to 4th column, it'll be more comfortable transition between your previous and next going pattern here without any uncomfortable moments

00:22:965 (22965|1) - move to 0 column, that's more suitable with your pattern here according to the Hi-hats in 0 column

00:45:090 (45090|1) - too far from next going note, it's uncomfortable position so I suggest you to move it closer to 2nd column at least

00:50:903 - place one more note here to 3rd column, according to the strong beat and your previous chord

00:53:903 (53903|1) - move to 0 column, like you did it with same chord in next going part, make it symmetrical, it's suitable with your pattern here according to kick HS

01:16:778 (76778|0) - move this note to 5th column, it'll be more comfortable to press with LNs in this part

01:34:590 (94590|5) - move to 4th column according to your Hi-hat accent in this column, it wouldn't ruin your pattern

01:43:403 (103403|3) - maybe replace it with LN until 01:43:590 according to the sound?

7K White Another
Inside :3
This diff is well-mapped, comfort to read and play these patterns (even LN patterns xD) so it's already well patterned for me. Good job! (also you can increase HS volume here a little coz there are so many notes and HSs are fade in such count of them)

Kiai
Inside :3
There's no kiai time in all diffs o.o I suggest you to accent next parts:

1st: From 00:40:778 to 00:58:778 - first chord part

2nd: From 01:25:778 to 01:43:778 - second chord part

I suggest to accent only chords coz other parts are sounds same and there's no need to accent them.

Nice mapset, you've got my star ^w^
Good luck :3/
Taiwan-NAK
336 posts
Joined July 2013
Taiwan-NAK
7K White Another

00:01:403 Move To 00:01:215

00:01:403 Add

00:58:778 ~ 01:10:028 All Add 1/4

01:56:528 (116528|0,116528|4) - Remove
Bruce
1,076 posts
Joined January 2013
Bruce
Mod by request :P Column:1 2 3 4 5 6 7
[General]
Letter Box is not allowed in osumania maps
Enable Countdown is not allowed in osumania maps

[4K Beginner]
Suggest rename: 4K Easy,this diff is harder than Beginner
In the Easiest Diff, suggest remove SV Change
00:28:028 - Add a Note
00:31:028 (31028|3) - Move to 1
00:34:590 (34590|2) - Move to 4
01:05:340 - This add a Note
01:07:403 - or this remove a Note
01:56:153 (116153|3) - End at 01:56:434 -
01:56:528 (116528|2) - Start at 01:56:434 - ,end at 01:56:715 -
01:56:715 - Add a Hold, end at 01:56:903 -

[4K Normal]
00:34:215 (34215|1,34403|0) - Ctrl+J
01:15:465 (75465|1) - Move to 01:15:528 -

[7K Hypew]
OD8
00:40:778 - Add a Note
01:15:465 (75465|3) - Move to 01:15:528 -
01:16:590 - Add a Note
01:25:778 - Add a Note
01:56:903 - Add a Note

Good Luck :P
Evening
2,464 posts
Joined December 2012
Evening
From Zenx' mod queue o/

Timing Check

Offset

No Problems

BPM

No Problems

7K White Another
Note Placement

00:28:778 (28778|1,28778|2,28778|0,29340|4,29340|6,29340|5) - Do not overlap them, the instruments in the music does not overlap
00:43:590 (43590|0) - This should extend 1/2 if you are mapping to the vocals "day"
00:49:590 (49590|0) - ^


Overmapping

00:46:496 (46496|1,46684|1) - Overmapping? - I can't hear clearly here x_x
00:53:434 (53434|4,53621|1,53809|3,53996|1,54184|3,54934|2,55121|5,55309|3,55496|5,55684|3) - No instrument here
01:20:153 (80153|0,80153|2,80153|6,85121|5,85309|3,85496|0,85684|2) - ^

Same mods for 2nd chorus as 1st chorus

01:37:028 (97028|6,97121|5,97215|4,97309|3) - ^ - Change the hat to a note
01:37:496 (97496|2) - Overmapped Slider End - Extend by 1/4
01:38:340 to 01:40:778 - All on blue lines are overmap

Same mods for Ending as Intro

Note Count

If 00:01:778 (1778|0,1778|1,1965|0,1965|1) - shows that you used 2 note-chords for the electronical instrument, 00:01:778 (1778|5,1965|4,2153|2,2153|5,2340|1,2528|0,2528|2,2715|6,2903|0,2903|5) - Why is your note count pattern 1,1,2,1,2,1,2 ? Add one at 00:01:778
00:03:278 - Add one | Same reason
00:04:778 - Add one | ^
00:06:278 - Add one | ^
00:07:778 - Add one | ^
... and so on

00:40:778 - Add one | You used 3 notes on every white line like these 00:41:153 (41153|6,41153|1,41153|0) - and 00:41:528 (41528|6,41528|2,41528|0) - Add one there to keep the note count consistent
00:42:278 - Add one | ^
... and so on

00:57:653 (57653|5,57653|1,57653|0) - Having 4 notes here has too much emphasis on for a light instrument/sound at that point of time - Remove these 3

00:59:153 (59153|2,59153|6,59153|5,59340|0,59340|1,59340|3) - These claps have 3 notes while 00:59:903 (59903|2,59903|0) - has 2, add one at 00:59:903

00:59:528 - Add one here for kick

01:02:153 - Add one here for clap
01:05:153 - ^
01:10:028 - ^
01:12:653 - ^

01:07:778 to 01:10:028 - Lacking notes for clap and kicks

01:20:153 (80153|6,80153|2,80153|0) - Since you used 3 here, 01:19:778 should have 3, add one at 01:19:778

Same mods for 2nd chorus as 1st chorus

01:20:153 (80153|0,80153|6,80153|2,85121|5,85309|3,85496|0,85684|2,97028|6,97121|5,97215|4,97309|3) -

Same mods for Ending as Intro

Hit-Sound Check

I can barely hear the hitsounds over the music, especially soft-hitnormal, I'm not sure if this is going to pass the ranking criteria, good luck anyways!

SV Check

No Problems

Kiai Time Check

None? < If added, add to all difficulties including GDs >

General

Ranking Criteria Check

No Problems - except for hitsound

AiMod

Turn off letterbox and countdown

Title Check

No Problems

Pattern Check

No Problems

Timing Check

Offset

BPM

7K HyPew
Note Placement

00:07:403 - I see that you are using 1st column from the left for the kicks then using 7th column from the left for the kicks, but the transition @ 00:07:403 is a bit weird since you swapped sides during an upbeat, I suggest you move 00:07:403 (7403|6) - away from the 7th column from the left, and 00:07:778 (7778|4) - move to the 1st column

00:16:778 to 00:25:778 seems to lack centre note, I suggest moving some notes there

Overmapping

Note Count

You used 3 notes here 00:30:278 (30278|5,30278|2,30278|0) - while having 2 notes here 00:33:278 (33278|3,33278|0) - add one at 00:33:278

00:40:778 - Add one here for the cymbal - use soft-hitfinish with additive normal hit-finish

Hit-Sound Check

No problems, soft-hitnormal might not be audible enough for ranking

SV Check

No Problems

Kiai Time Check

Refer to 1st mod

General

Ranking Criteria Check

No Problems

AiMod

Turn off letterbox and countdown

Title Check

No Problems

Pattern Check

No Problems

4K Normal : No major problems here, so here are some suggestions

01:37:778 (97778|0,97965|1,98153|2,98340|3) - Map to vocals?
01:39:278 (99278|3,99465|2,99653|1,99840|0) - ^
01:56:809 (116809|0) - Overmap?

Turn off letterbox and countdown

4K Beginner :

Turn off letterbox and countdown

- Delete SV changes, increase in SV for beginner is a bit too hard for them
YunoFanatic
1,699 posts
Joined April 2013
YunoFanatic
fast ranku plz~
Spy
2,538 posts
Joined November 2011
Spy
Mark about modding
ExPew
Elite Mapper
1,220 posts
Joined January 2011
ExPew

[Shi-Ra] wrote:

Hi Inava and EtPew, there are mods for your diffs ^w^

Shi-Ra's Patterns Review & Hitsound re-check:
(notice that columns are following like 0 1 2 3 for 4K diffs)

(notice that columns are following like 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 for 7K diffs)
7K HyPew
Inside :3
Like alternation in the middle of this diff, that's really cool \o/

00:19:215 (19215|4) - move this note to 2nd column and then 00:19:590 (19590|2) - move to 4th column, it'll be more comfortable transition between your previous and next going pattern here without any uncomfortable moments - accepted and fixed

00:22:965 (22965|1) - move to 0 column, that's more suitable with your pattern here according to the Hi-hats in 0 column - ok

00:45:090 (45090|1) - too far from next going note, it's uncomfortable position so I suggest you to move it closer to 2nd column at least - rearranged

00:50:903 - place one more note here to 3rd column, according to the strong beat and your previous chord - no

00:53:903 (53903|1) - move to 0 column, like you did it with same chord in next going part, make it symmetrical, it's suitable with your pattern here according to kick HS ok

01:16:778 (76778|0) - move this note to 5th column, it'll be more comfortable to press with LNs in this part no

01:34:590 (94590|5) - move to 4th column according to your Hi-hat accent in this column, it wouldn't ruin your pattern ok

01:43:403 (103403|3) - maybe replace it with LN until 01:43:590 according to the sound? not suit with thato

lZenxl wrote:

00:07:403 - I see that you are using 1st column from the left for the kicks then using 7th column from the left for the kicks, but the transition @ 00:07:403 is a bit weird since you swapped sides during an upbeat, I suggest you move 00:07:403 (7403|6) - away from the 7th column from the left, and 00:07:778 (7778|4) - move to the 1st column - they swapping when new measure lines

00:16:778 to 00:25:778 seems to lack centre note, I suggest moving some notes there - any idea?

00:40:778 - Add one here for the cymbal - use soft-hitfinish with additive normal hit-finish - added and other parts too

-Turn off letterbox + countdown

Simple_Star wrote:

[7K Hypew]
OD8
00:40:778 - Add a Note - ok
01:15:465 (75465|3) - Move to 01:15:528 - fixed can you explain this snapping?
01:16:590 - Add a Note - no
01:25:778 - Add a Note - ok
01:56:903 - Add a Note - no
and HP+1

thanks , done HyPew - http://puu.sh/5Y59T.osu
Spy
2,538 posts
Joined November 2011
Spy
Hello,sorry for mod late.
Hum,sorry only mod 4K diffs._.

Column : 1 2 3 4

[4K Beginner]
Well,I think Beginner is not suitable for this diff.
Maybe you should change to 4K Normal,if not,these are some my suggestions.
00:13:778 - 00:15:090 - 00:15:184 - 00:15:278 - Please remove this SV,it is not suit for beginner
00:14:153 (14153|3,14528|2,14903|1) - I suggest you the long long not to put stair pattern,it will often get 200 while playing
00:16:215 (16215|2) - Perhap you should keep 1,4,1,4
00:17:153 (17153|0,17528|1,17715|2,17903|1,18090|2,18278|0,18278|3,18653|1,18653|2,19028|0,19403|2,19403|1,19778|3) - Keep same way to catch sound↓
1.Keep the way putting notes like as 00:17:153 (17153|0,17528|1,17715|2,17903|1,18090|2,18278|0,18278|3)
2.Keep the way putting notes like as 00:18:278 (18278|3,18278|0,18653|1,18653|2,19028|0,19403|2,19403|1,19778|3)
00:22:309 - Here still has a sound,00:22:215 (22215|2) - Try to change to a long note to 00:22:403 ?
00:28:778 (28778|0,29340|3,29903|1,30278|2) - A little hard for beginner
00:31:778 (31778|3,32340|0,32903|2,33278|1) - Same
00:34:778 (34778|0,35340|3,35903|1,36278|2) - Same
00:37:778 (37778|2,37778|0,38153|2,38153|0,38528|1,38528|3,38903|3,38903|1) - If you catch vocal,you should change to long notes
00:52:965 (52965|1) - No sound,if you catch vocal,keep remaining
01:13:778 (73778|2,74153|1,74528|3) - Try this ?
SPOILER
01:15:465 (75465|1,75746|1) - 01:15:746 (75746|1) - You catch different sound from 01:15:465 (75465|1),so you should move 01:15:746 (75746|1) to 01:15:840
01:16:778 (76778|0,77340|3,77903|1,78278|2) - Same as I said
01:19:778 (79778|2,79778|0,80153|2,80153|0,80528|1,80528|3,80903|1,80903|3) - Still same as I said
{
01:44:434 (104434|0,104715|1,104903|2,105090|3) - Well,you know it,try it make it easier,short long note is not too much for beginner
01:45:934 (105934|1,106215|0,106403|3,106590|2) - Same
01:47:434 (107434|3,107715|2,107903|0,108090|1) - Same
01:48:934 (108934|2,109215|0,109403|1,109590|3) - Same
01:50:434 (110434|2,110715|1,110903|0,111090|3) - Same
01:51:934 (111934|1,112215|0,112403|3,112590|2) - Same
01:53:434 (113434|3,113715|2,113903|0,114090|1) - Same
01:54:934 (114934|2,115215|0,115403|1,115590|3) - Same
01:56:153 (116153|3,116528|2,116715|0,116903|1) - Same
}
You can remain some of these,but I suggest you must modify some.

[4K Normal]
Please change name to 4K Hard.
00:12:840 - Add a note
00:16:215 - 00:16:403 - 00:16:590 - You should keep add note
00:16:778 (16778|3,16778|0,16965|2,17153|0,17340|2,17528|0,17715|2,17903|0,18090|2,18278|3,18278|0,18653|1,18653|2,19028|0,19028|3,19403|2,19403|1) - Same as I said in 4K Beginner
00:24:653 (24653|0,24653|3,25028|2,25028|1,25403|3,25403|0) - Same
00:27:840 - Add a note
00:27:934 - Add a note
00:29:153 - Add a note
00:32:153 - Add a note
00:35:153 - Add a note
00:40:403 - Add a note
00:42:090 (42090|2) - Move to 2
00:44:715 - Add a note
00:45:090 - Add a note
00:46:403 - Add a note
00:46:778 (46778|2) - Move to 2
00:50:715 - Add a note
00:51:090 - Add a note
00:54:465 (54465|2,54653|1) - You can try to swap
00:55:965 (55965|0,55965|3,56340|2,56340|1) - Remove one
01:27:090 (87090|2) - Same as I said
01:29:715 - Add a note
01:30:090 - Add a note
01:31:403 - Add a note
01:31:778 (91778|2) - Same,or you can change the way
01:35:715 - Add a note
01:36:090 - Add a note
01:37:121 (97121|2) - Remove

Good luck to rank~ :)
PROGUY
osu! Alumni
936 posts
Joined October 2010
PROGUY
Hi there, 17VA. Here's my mod as requested.

[4K Beginner]
- Feels more like a Normal+ than an Easy to me. You may need to change the difficulty's name.

[4K Normal]
- Feels more like a Hard than an Normal to me. You may need to change the difficulty's name.
00:25:778 (25778|2) Move long note end to 00:26:528.
00:26:903 (26903|3) Move long note start to 00:26:528.

Hope this helps! Good luck! :)
17VA
1,007 posts
Joined September 2012
Topic Starter
17VA
Fixed, but I wanna follow beatmania IIDX's difficulty system :(
ExPew
Elite Mapper
1,220 posts
Joined January 2011
ExPew
i think need 7K Another diff cuz Hyper and White Another too much gap ( mostly sliders )

- suggest to make diff re ballance sliders with Hypew and White Another





@17VA help me -1 OD on my HyPew
imariL
370 posts
Joined February 2011
imariL
Sorry for 'very' late, write with korean

column 0 1 2 3 4 5 6

[General]

4키 비기너 난이도와 노멀난이도가 서로 비기너, 노말이라고 하기엔 난이도가 너무 높은것 같습니다. Beginner -> 4K Normal, Normal -> 4K Hyper로 난이도 이름을 바꾸는게 좋을것 같아요.

[4K Beginner]

00:16:215 - 0번에 노트 추가, 밑의 항목을 고치지 않으신다면 추가하지 마세요. (드럼? 비트가 6번 나오는데 노트는 5개네요.)
00:16:215 (16215|2) - 롱노트의 시작점이 00:16:403 이 되어야합니다. 바로 위 항목과 이 점을 고치셨다면 사진으로 이렇게 되요. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1223852
01:05:340 - 2번에 노트 추가, 혹은 01:07:403 (67403|1) 를 삭제해 주세요.

[4K Normal]

00:27:934 (27934|1) - 00:27:840 로 이동
00:28:028 (28028|2) - 00:27:934 로 이동
01:56:809 (116809|0) - 불필요한 노트같습니다. 삭제해주세요.

[7K HyPew]

HP: 7 OD: 8

00:01:215 (1215|0,1215|2,1215|5) - remove one of these and 00:01:403 - here should be triple notes imo.

Nice Diff!

[7K White Another]

HP: 8 OD: 8

Good Luck! :D
17VA
1,007 posts
Joined September 2012
Topic Starter
17VA
00:16:215 - 0번에 노트 추가, 밑의 항목을 고치지 않으신다면 추가하지 마세요. (드럼? 비트가 6번 나오는데 노트는 5개네요.)
00:16:215 (16215|2) - 롱노트의 시작점이 00:16:403 이 되어야합니다. 바로 위 항목과 이 점을 고치셨다면 사진으로 이렇게 되요. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1223852 - nope

all fixed except this suggestion.

thanks.
ExPew
Elite Mapper
1,220 posts
Joined January 2011
ExPew

Chocoliti wrote:

[7K HyPew]

HP: 7 OD: 8 = Changed

00:01:215 (1215|0,1215|2,1215|5) - remove one of these that part and 00:01:403 - here should be triple notes imo. all fixed

Nice Diff! thanks :D
http://puu.sh/6eNyU.osu
ljqandylee
Former osu!mania 7K Champion: 2016
283 posts
Joined July 2009
ljqandylee
[General]
Change the diff name plz:
4K Beginner → 4K Normal
4K Normal → 4K Hyper
Yeah I see that you wanna follow IIDX's difficulty system, but here's osu!mania, and lots of players here haven't any experience of IIDX, expecially new comers. You may imagine what they will think if they played your "Beginner" and "Normal" and find it's much harder than other "Beginner" and "Normal" maps in osumania. As a good mapper, it's better to take most of the players who are coming to play your maps into consideration.
And also, change to Normal and Hyper won't against your IIDX diffnames XD

[7K White Another]
01:08:996 (68996|4,69090|6) - All move 1/4 grid later
01:13:215 - Here change to 2 notes would be better
01:56:528 - Here has no specific sound, the heavy beat appears at 01:56:434. You may rearrange the pattern here to fit the sound better.

[7K HyPew]
01:13:965 (73965|3) - Move to 01:14:028 (1/3 grid)
01:14:246 (74246|3) - Move to 01:14:278 (1/3 grid)
01:14:715 (74715|3) - Move to 01:14:778 (1/3 grid)

[4K Normal]
00:16:403 - Add a note at 2nd column
01:14:528 ~ 01:15:278 - Make the same pattern(just symmetrical) with 01:15:278 ~ 01:16:028, the current pattern is strange and doesn't fit the music imo
01:56:528 - Here has no specific sound, the heavy beat appears at 01:56:434. You may rearrange the pattern here to fit the sound better.

[4K Beginner]
00:16:403 - Add a note at 2nd column
00:27:653 - Reduce to 1 note
00:27:840 - Add a note
01:15:465 (75465|1) - Since 01:15:778 (75778|1) is on the 1/3 line, you' d better also put this one on 1/3 line (01:15:528)
01:56:528 - Here has no specific sound, the heavy beat appears at 01:56:434. You may rearrange the pattern here to fit the sound better.
17VA
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17VA
all fixed

and pew diff fixed by me (becuz this is just timing problem)
ExPew
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ExPew
thanks 17VA
ljqandylee
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