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zlfence

Joined March 2013

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zlfence 2013-10-08T16:21:25+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2014年1月13日 at 21:31:35

Artist: nao
Title: Blade Heart
Source: Tiny Dungeon ～BLACK and WHITE～
Tags: Rosebleu Black and White Vueru sein Hokuto Minami Ono Ryouko Galgame [Minakami Yuki]
BPM: 140
Filesize: 5467kb
Play Time: 02:04
Difficulties Available:

Hard (4.74 stars, 295 notes)
Insane (5 stars, 501 notes)
Normal (3.15 stars, 171 notes)
Yuki's Insane (4.99 stars, 539 notes)

Download: nao - Blade Heart
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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2nd
Normal by me
Hard by me
Ins by me
Yuki by Minakami Yuki
禽兽，放开那个妹子，不，那一堆的妹子，有事冲我来~
这游戏好难...
I need some Mod in Ins and Yuki Diff~~~

Last edited by zlfence 2014-01-13T13:32:14+00:00, edited 20 times in total.

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

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Koiyuki 2013-10-08T17:49:02+00:00

accept GD request?

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zlfence

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zlfence 2013-10-09T05:29:21+00:00

[Minakami Yuki] wrote:
accept GD request?

Of course if you want to do it why do i refuse it？

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2013-10-09T13:31:12+00:00

其实你这选曲挺不错的
要学会细化节奏
想想之前那张怎么做的

zlfence

48 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

zlfence 2013-10-10T00:13:35+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
其实你这选曲挺不错的
要学会细化节奏
想想之前那张怎么做的

做到一半，现在开始Re了...

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2013-11-02T19:03:06+00:00

irc log

02:00 zlfence: 零风麻婆- -
02:02 Zero__wind: 0.0
02:02 Zero__wind: 这么晚没睡
02:02 zlfence: enene
02:02 zlfence: 做完了。。。
02:02 zlfence: 求鉴定。。
02:03 Zero__wind: 0.0
02:03 zlfence: 我这个蠢手实在是做不出像样的东西。
02:07 Zero__wind: 呃作图不是有手做的=。=
02:07 Zero__wind: 要用脑子……
02:08 zlfence: - -
02:10 zlfence: 来帮忙Test么？
02:10 Zero__wind: 于是你倒是np一下儿啊
02:10 *zlfence is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/310405 nao - Blade Heart]
02:10 zlfence: 别人都没说Link
02:11 zlfence: 自顾自NP不太好- -
02:11 zlfence: 可以Solo下么？
02:11 zlfence: 我要围观- -
02:12 zlfence: 感觉作图的水准一点都没进步。
02:12 zlfence: 还是那么蠢。。
02:13 Zero__wind: 嘛, let's see
02:13 zlfence: 从Hard开始- -
02:14 Zero__wind: 140我不会打
02:14 zlfence: 低BPM。
02:17 Zero__wind: 这BPM的连打我ACC就美丽=。=
02:17 zlfence: 总体说明感觉？
02:17 zlfence: 没有OVermap吧？
02:17 Zero__wind: 为什么1/4有的还两个两个叠着感觉打着好不舒服
02:17 Zero__wind: 串子的走向也怪怪的
02:18 Zero__wind: 因为连打很多啊然后也看不太明白为什么要这样放
02:18 zlfence: 比如？
02:20 Zero__wind: 00:05:438 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 一开始这就很不舒服啊
02:21 zlfence: ·好的-= -
02:22 Zero__wind: 00:26:545 (3,4) - 这种叠着的打起来也很不舒服而且根本就不明白为什么要叠着
02:23 zlfence: 这就是我想要的- -= =
02:24 zlfence: 能帮忙Mod的话那最好了- -
02:25 zlfence: 如果不想Mod那就无视吧- -
02:25 Zero__wind: 而且为什么好多双排的串子我感觉根本不合音乐
02:26 zlfence: 25%听应该算合适吧- -
02:26 Zero__wind: 这和速度没关系
02:27 zlfence: 本来可以做成5连- -
02:27 zlfence: 但是我想想还是4连好了- -
02:27 Zero__wind: 01:09:295 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这种的
02:27 Zero__wind: 这么长的串子本来就overmap 然后我也不明白为什么要摆成这种双排的形状
02:27 zlfence: 这个不合节奏么？
02:28 Zero__wind: 01:09:830 (6,8) - 这两拍根本就什么都没有啊
02:28 zlfence: 懂了- -
02:28 zlfence: 听出来了。
02:29 Zero__wind: 好多这种的
02:29 Zero__wind: 01:15:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这就多得更夸张了
02:30 Zero__wind: 01:16:045 (2,4,8,10) - 这都是多余的
02:30 Zero__wind: 至少至少 01:16:045 (2,8) - 这两个是多余的
02:30 zlfence: offset 什么的没问题么？
02:31 Zero__wind: 有
02:31 Zero__wind: 明显late
02:31 zlfence: 69?
02:32 Zero__wind: 61
02:33 Zero__wind: 除了很多多余的连打还有串子的走向还有一些其他比较明显的问题
02:34 Zero__wind: 00:25:775 (1) - 这个reverse明显的不和节奏
02:34 Zero__wind: 二连二连的地方不可能用的了reverse的
02:35 Zero__wind: 00:56:632 (1) - 这段开始伴奏不是很明显但是你也不跟vocal
02:35 Zero__wind: vocal应该是白蓝红三个三个一组的节奏
02:36 Zero__wind: 应该是像01:18:918 (1,2,3) - 这样的节奏
02:37 Zero__wind: 虽然都是一样的但是你下节奏的方法还是可以有很多 slider和circle不同的组合方式
02:37 zlfence: 改Offset好麻烦的- -因为绿线比较多。。
02:37 Zero__wind: kiai也设错了应该在01:24:061 - 开始啊
02:37 Zero__wind: 不麻烦啊
02:37 Zero__wind: 你之前不是81么
02:37 Zero__wind: 改成61 全选-20啊
02:37 Zero__wind: 而且你这么几根绿线=。= plz
02:38 Zero__wind: 【捂脸
02:38 zlfence: - -
02:38 zlfence: kiai time wang le xiugai
02:38 Zero__wind: 你在F6里面全选-20
02:38 zlfence: 忘了修改- -之前设置好了，后来Re了，
02:39 Zero__wind: kiai一定不要跟着vocal走啊
02:39 Zero__wind: 都rank过图的人了还不记着的话=。=
02:40 zlfence: 基础知识掌握不好。。。
02:40 Zero__wind: 01:40:561 (3) - 这个的折返箭头会被01:39:918 (6) - 的hitburst挡住这是unrankable
02:40 Zero__wind: 一定记着避免
02:40 Zero__wind: 自己用透明皮肤的时候想着也有很多人有300激的
02:41 zlfence: 涨姿势了。。。
02:41 zlfence: 业界良心。。。
02:41 Zero__wind: unrankable就是unrankable 这种事情是没商量的
02:41 Zero__wind: 看到就枪毙
02:42 Zero__wind: 音效的话漏了很多finish先不说 whistle也很多砸的不是地方
02:42 zlfence: 你看- -我是想和上下的Note 对齐的- -
02:42 Zero__wind: 主要是体现在串子中间下whistle的时候不合阴阳
02:42 Zero__wind: 音乐*
02:43 Zero__wind: 对齐的话你可以让它们分别再往两边儿去一些
02:43 Zero__wind: 01:40:346 (1) - 你这个小间距本来就有点奇怪
02:43 Zero__wind: 对称之前先想想间距
02:44 zlfence: en
02:44 Zero__wind: 然后就是有些特定的地方不需要单独NC00:07:346 (1) -
02:44 Zero__wind: 这两个最远的circle在一组里就可以了
02:44 Zero__wind: 01:46:775 (1) -
02:44 Zero__wind: 一样
02:44 Zero__wind: 好像还有
02:45 Zero__wind: 00:28:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 像这种地方whistle就加得非常出位=。=
02:46 Zero__wind: 人家音乐里明明是白线红线的鼓
02:46 Zero__wind: 应该加在00:28:346 (2,4) - 的
02:46 Zero__wind: 你给全都放到了蓝线
02:46 zlfence: - -
02:46 Zero__wind: 打的时候就觉得好别扭
02:46 zlfence: 这些小知识基本都没人教啊...
02:47 Zero__wind: 像00:42:918 (1) - 这种头上的finish 漏掉了太多个了
02:47 Zero__wind: 这个不需要教啊认真听音乐
02:48 zlfence: - -
02:48 Zero__wind: 音效是你自己选的吧
02:48 zlfence: en
02:48 Zero__wind: 那你为什么会觉得应该选这些音效呢
02:48 zlfence: bu heshi ?
02:48 Zero__wind: 你也明白就是为了要去还原音乐嘛
02:48 Zero__wind: 那你在加音效的时候就要根据音乐本身来加啊
02:48 zlfence: shi de - -
02:49 Zero__wind: 当然也有用额外音效来修饰音乐的但那是另外一回事了
02:49 Zero__wind: 至少你先得把基本的节奏打准了不能全都跑到蓝线去啊什么的
02:50 zlfence: offset 硬伤。。。
02:50 Zero__wind: 像00:41:203 (1) - 这里的finish你为什么会加呢
02:50 Zero__wind: 不明白为什么你知道在这里加就不想着在其他类似的地方加明明就是一样的啊
02:51 Zero__wind: 00:42:918 (1) -
02:51 Zero__wind: 00:49:775 (1) -
02:51 zlfence: 因为这里比较明显- -
02:51 Zero__wind: 00:51:489 (1) -
02:51 Zero__wind: 00:51:489 (1) -
02:51 Zero__wind: 这个完全是和你加的那个地方一模一样的
02:52 Zero__wind: whistle也是很多错位大部分段落应该白线1/1的
02:52 zlfence: 音效的话我只是暂时试试- -
02:53 Zero__wind: 基本上是一条白线whistle一条白线clap 然后再whistle 再clap 这样交替的
02:53 Zero__wind: 你clap这次加得倒是挺稳的
02:53 Zero__wind: whistle明明是一样的道理
02:54 Zero__wind: 01:01:561 (10,1) - 这种的都属于加错位置了的
02:54 Zero__wind: 觉得难的话你就在加音效的时候把snap divisor调成1/1
02:54 Zero__wind: 这样不管你是放的滑条放的circle 是不是连打都是一样的加啊
02:55 Zero__wind: 一个whistle一个clap换着加就是了
02:56 zlfence: 懂了好多- -我回去把你的话研究下...
02:57 zlfence: 另外2个简单的N H能稍微看下指点一下就额可以了- -
02:59 Zero__wind: 01:18:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这几个note应该说是最值得称道的吧配合finish强调得很好
02:59 Zero__wind: 虽然摆放位置还有待考究但是至少能看出思路

Good luck

tutuhaha

3,000 posts

Joined October 2010

tutuhaha 2013-11-03T06:40:10+00:00

mod

23:50 *tutuhaha is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/310404 nao - Blade Heart [Feng]]
23:50 tutuhaha: 来吧
23:51 tutuhaha: 你这个diff前面的note在节奏上和摆放上有点乱，多余的节奏有点多
23:51 zlfence: 恩恩
23:51 zlfence: 比如？
23:52 tutuhaha: 00:01:775 (1,1,1,1) - 00:05:203 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,1) - 要是我的话，这两段节奏我会觉得基本一样然后改成一样的节奏._.
23:53 zlfence: 我个人不太喜欢对称流。。。
23:53 tutuhaha: 00:08:632 (1,2,3) - 00:09:489 (4,5,6) - 这两段跟人声的话会觉得前一段会比后一段跨度要小，所以前一段的间距考虑比第二段小
23:54 zlfence: 我会告诉你是因为对称的我做不好么- -
23:54 tutuhaha: O.O,,,,,,你不会复制黏贴？
23:54 zlfence: 不太喜欢- -
23:54 tutuhaha: 00:10:775 (3) - ctrl+g一下
23:54 zlfence: 还是觉得花样多一点。
23:55 zlfence: 之前的图就被喷复制了- -
23:55 zlfence: 所以有阴影- -
23:55 tutuhaha: 哇塞...那我怎么活..
23:56 tutuhaha: 00:14:632 (7,1) - 没覆盖好
23:56 zlfence: 而且要复制的话。。
23:56 zlfence: 00:15:489 (1) -
23:56 zlfence: 从这里开始基本都可以复制了- -
23:56 zlfence: 但是我自己不太愿意这么做。，
00:00 tutuhaha: 00:25:775 (10) - NC
00:00 tutuhaha: 然后这一段我才觉得节奏单调了
00:00 tutuhaha: 而且前面那个节奏真心不是复制流._. .....
00:01 zlfence: 我没复制啊- -
00:01 zlfence: 只是每个角落都照顾一遍~~~你可以看到。
00:01 tutuhaha: 你说的是哪段？
00:02 zlfence: 00:15:489 (1) -
00:02 zlfence: 这里开始。
00:02 tutuhaha: 我没说你note复制我是说节奏._.
00:02 zlfence: 我勒个去- -
00:03 zlfence: 前面说节奏一样最好做成一样 0- -这里又要改？？？
00:03 zlfence: 作图好难。。
00:03 tutuhaha: 那你说前面要多样性后面又一样？
00:04 zlfence: 所以我干脆基本没做成一样的了- -
00:04 zlfence: 这一段和最后一段只是Note相同，但是排列我改了- -
00:07 tutuhaha: 你做这个图是想要和人声还是和伴奏？
00:07 zlfence: - -
00:07 tutuhaha: 好吧主和人声还是主和节奏
00:08 zlfence: 尽量2者兼顾- -
00:08 zlfence: 可是能力不足。
00:08 tutuhaha: 你再- -看我我会很堵的慌
00:09 zlfence: - -
00:09 tutuhaha: 两者都主的话最终你的图就是同一个节奏类型一个超鬼畜一个超善良然后出现在了同一个diff里
00:10 zlfence: 这样的啊~~~
00:10 zlfence: 又涨姿势了。
00:11 tutuhaha: 00:15:489 (1) - 这个地方的话要是我我会放这样的节奏 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1077011
00:11 zlfence: 还有很多要学习啊。。
00:12 tutuhaha: 00:18:918 (1) - 然后这一段要是你参考到上面那个节奏的话这段也改成和那段差不多
00:12 tutuhaha: 节奏差不多，摆放方法不要看，乱摆的
00:13 tutuhaha: 然后这一段就大概按照节奏疏-密-疏-密这样摆
00:16 tutuhaha: 00:29:203 (1) - 这段推荐和人声大概节奏这样 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1077028
00:18 tutuhaha: 00:32:203 (4) - 往右移两格，记得把DS关掉
00:19 tutuhaha: 00:32:953 (2) - 删掉比较多余
00:19 tutuhaha: 00:36:061 (1) - 和前面推荐节奏一样
00:20 tutuhaha: 00:38:311 (2) - 删掉比较多余
00:20 tutuhaha: 00:39:596 (2) - ^
00:20 tutuhaha: 00:42:168 (5,7) - ^
00:24 tutuhaha: 00:46:346 (1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1077037 这整一段的节奏有些地方可以参考这种节奏方式，只看节奏不看摆放啊亲
00:27 tutuhaha: 00:54:061 (3) - 改成这样？http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1077040
00:28 tutuhaha: 00:56:632 (1) - 然后这后面要是你前面的大部分的都改了你应该可以听的出后面这些地方怎么改
00:29 tutuhaha: 新手建议你先把所有音效都调成normal，然后自己听遍全图，要是自己都觉得咚咚声太吵了那就说明你的三连和note放多了的地方很多
00:29 zlfence: 恩恩
00:31 tutuhaha: 01:14:632 (6,7,8,9) - 比如说这个地方，soft的时候可能感觉没啥差别但是调成normal的话01:15:061 (8) - 这个节奏是多余的完全听不出在跟人声，伴奏被人声盖过去了所以不做考虑
00:34 tutuhaha: 大部分歌的节奏在kiai都是差不多的，所以在kiai想做出多样性的话只能靠slider和note的搭配和变化，全部都加三连的话很容易产生多余的节奏并且刹不住车直接超狂3连飞奔而去...
00:34 tutuhaha: kiai我说这么多，你自己努力去想想，我只能说这首歌加那么多三连绝对有问题._. .......
00:35 zlfence: - -
00:36 tutuhaha: - -好我说完了
00:37 zlfence: 好吧- -很感谢你~~~
00:37 tutuhaha: 那我post上去了
00:37 zlfence: 00:41:203 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:37 zlfence: 这段我还是按照原先的想法做成大跳好了。。

AngelHoney

2,155 posts

Joined May 2009

AngelHoney 2013-11-04T17:05:38+00:00

Feng

这是关于音效的一些建议 (大概就弄了30秒 , clap的话不喜可无视XD 而whistle的话其实也就是跟着节奏下的啦w 希望能给些帮助~

http://puu.sh/58CMm.osu

然后关于颜色

[Colours]
Combo1 : 0,124,249
Combo2 : 227,0,0
Combo3 : 104,255,104
Combo4 : 255,111,40

套用了下SHK那张颜色感觉对于你这BG来说还是比较清晰可见的w 或者你也可以尝试其他反正不要原来那3个就行了lol....

然后...

00:56:418 (11,1) - 串串后一个叠加+停顿有点略坑?! 玩的时候被坑了下w 尝试把1 移开?!
01:03:489 (1) - 前面加2个物件做成3连?! 看你挺喜欢下这样的三连的~
01:25:989 (1,1) - 最好不要Newcombo 而且第二个不要叠在之前的连打下面...玩的时候一下子没找到物件在哪....(做成newcombo的话物件之间的连接线也看不到...) 建议取消这2个newcombo 然后这一小段的跳重新排列下~
01:29:418 (1,1) - 这个同上 , 不过稍微改下就行了
01:36:061 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 改下节奏? 如图

01:38:418 - 来个物件?
02:05:203 (9) - 这个可以考虑稍微移开点

不想破坏太多节奏至少玩起来还行所以稍微提些点就是了w

Yuki

音效的话也和feng意见的一样改成Normal?! 懒得改就算了w
combocolor也改下?!

00:12:275 (3,3,3,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 好多滑条崩了没发现么...(就是长度不对...过短了...
00:29:203 (1) - 这个也是
00:29:203 - 然后关于这一段的意见就是 , 虽然是减速了但是减得太多了...没必要间距和滑条速度一下子弄的这么小...有点唐突
00:42:061 (1,2,3) - 很惊讶当时竟然看懂了...
00:56:632 (1) - 崩了?
01:17:632 (2,3) - 这间距你说坑不坑
01:27:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这段排列重做下?! 感觉像是即兴排列..
01:32:632 (1) - 崩了?
01:46:775 (2) - 这个能移下面去么...玩的时候没看到叠._. 突然找不到了..
01:52:561 (5,6) - 稍微移开点? 略遮有点难以识别? 对于我这样的弱比..
01:59:203 (6) - 这个也坑爹
02:02:418 (4,5) - 并成一个slider ?! 然后串串稍微改下排列?

好久没mod图拉XD 实在不会抓细节了而且两个难度都比较随性就更难抓啦w

加油:D/

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-11-07T16:40:23+00:00

To 偶像aho :>
他改了offset没告诉我导致很多滑条变速出了问题实在抱歉
大多都有改

To zlf
有些地方我准备re一下时间可能会很久
你找mod的时候可以让他们先不要mod我的diff
不过我估计你也要重弄吧233

zlfence

48 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

zlfence 2013-11-08T00:38:39+00:00

[Minakami Yuki] wrote:
To 偶像aho :>
他改了offset没告诉我导致很多滑条变速出了问题实在抱歉
大多都有改

To zlf
有些地方我准备re一下时间可能会很久
你找mod的时候可以让他们先不要mod我的diff
不过我估计你也要重弄吧233

我也要Re了...不过最近可能没时间Re了.你要是做好了就告诉我，我尽量快点开始弄...

zlfence

48 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

zlfence 2013-11-08T00:40:43+00:00

AngelHoney wrote:
Feng

这是关于音效的一些建议 (大概就弄了30秒 , clap的话不喜可无视XD 而whistle的话其实也就是跟着节奏下的啦w 希望能给些帮助~

http://puu.sh/58CMm.osu

然后关于颜色

[Colours]
Combo1 : 0,124,249
Combo2 : 227,0,0
Combo3 : 104,255,104
Combo4 : 255,111,40

套用了下SHK那张颜色感觉对于你这BG来说还是比较清晰可见的w 或者你也可以尝试其他反正不要原来那3个就行了lol....

然后...

00:56:418 (11,1) - 串串后一个叠加+停顿有点略坑?! 玩的时候被坑了下w 尝试把1 移开?!
01:03:489 (1) - 前面加2个物件做成3连?! 看你挺喜欢下这样的三连的~
01:25:989 (1,1) - 最好不要Newcombo 而且第二个不要叠在之前的连打下面...玩的时候一下子没找到物件在哪....(做成newcombo的话物件之间的连接线也看不到...) 建议取消这2个newcombo 然后这一小段的跳重新排列下~
01:29:418 (1,1) - 这个同上 , 不过稍微改下就行了
01:36:061 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 改下节奏? 如图
01:38:418 - 来个物件?
02:05:203 (9) - 这个可以考虑稍微移开点

不想破坏太多节奏至少玩起来还行所以稍微提些点就是了w

Yuki

音效的话也和feng意见的一样改成Normal?! 懒得改就算了w
combocolor也改下?!

00:12:275 (3,3,3,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 好多滑条崩了没发现么...(就是长度不对...过短了...
00:29:203 (1) - 这个也是
00:29:203 - 然后关于这一段的意见就是 , 虽然是减速了但是减得太多了...没必要间距和滑条速度一下子弄的这么小...有点唐突
00:42:061 (1,2,3) - 很惊讶当时竟然看懂了...
00:56:632 (1) - 崩了?
01:17:632 (2,3) - 这间距你说坑不坑
01:27:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这段排列重做下?! 感觉像是即兴排列..
01:32:632 (1) - 崩了?
01:46:775 (2) - 这个能移下面去么...玩的时候没看到叠._. 突然找不到了..
01:52:561 (5,6) - 稍微移开点? 略遮有点难以识别? 对于我这样的弱比..
01:59:203 (6) - 这个也坑爹
02:02:418 (4,5) - 并成一个slider ?! 然后串串稍微改下排列?

好久没mod图拉XD 实在不会抓细节了而且两个难度都比较随性就更难抓啦w

加油:D/

很感谢你- -不过稍微有点对不起大麻婆君了...因为我要Re掉了- -各方面我都要加强一下...

Suzully

osu! Alumni

2,446 posts

Joined July 2010

Suzully 2013-11-13T13:01:33+00:00

Hello, here's my mod

[Normal]

Let's add more finishes as I pointed in a hard diff.

00:54:489 (2) - It's better to avoid put a circle under a slider in the easiest diff.

[Hard]

00:05:203 (5) - Just add a finish to the top?
00:08:632 (5,7,8) - ^ yeah
00:29:203 (1) - ^
00:36:061 (1) - ^
00:42:918 (1) - ^
00:49:775 (1) - ^
00:56:632 (1) - ^
01:03:489 (1) - ^
01:10:346 (1) - ^
01:17:203 (1) - ^
01:21:489 (4) - ^
01:30:918 (6) - ^
01:37:346 (8) - ^ to the end.
01:44:632 (1) - ^ to the top.
02:04:775 (7) - ^ to the end.
The note placement is very good as a hard diff.

[Feng]

00:15:918 (3,4,5,6,7) - There's not a sound it should be put a circle at 00:16:347. So I think players feels they're forced hitting a stream and a map becomes annoying.

Consider about all same petterns please. ({e.g.}00:17:525 (2,3,4,5,6), 00:19:346 (3,4,5,6,7), 01:51:918 (3,4,5,6,7))
From 01:05:203 - Probably you forgot to add some hitsounds(almost clap). And let's use more whistles! \:D/
02:05:203 (1) - Add a finish?

[Yuki]

From 00:12:275 to 00:15:489 - IMO all 1/3-beat-length sliders don't fit the song, they're just confusing. If they would be 1/4, they're just great!
00:14:418 (3,4) - I recommend to reverse(Ctrl+G on each slider) these ones. The current flow makes play a bit too difficult to hit since aiming big-spaced sliders in the short interval is also difficult.
00:16:346 (4) - Please move it closer to (3). Such a 1/4-beat jump cannot be read because of the similar spaced circles around it.
00:19:775 (5,6,7) - I felt they don't fit the backsound so it's kinda confusing when playing. Refer a below one?

There are some same patterns({e.g.}00:24:918 (5,6,7), 02:00:918 (5,6,7)) in this map. Please consider about them once too.
00:56:632 (1) - Uhm, as the same reason as above, shorten to 00:56:846 or extend to 00:56:953?(avoid using 1/3)
01:17:632 (2,3) - Should be misread as there's only 1/4 beat while them because of the inconsistent space. Move the stream after (3) further away please.
01:20:953 (2,3,2,3) - Let's use more hitsounds at the emphasized backsound! Atleast soft-hitclap, or normal one?
01:29:846 (5,6,7) - I expected the reverse flow when playing comparing other ones. It's maybe just my preference or wrong impression but please consider once about this, perhaps some players will get confused as well as me.
01:32:632 (1) - 1/3 again?
01:32:632 (1,2) - If compared with the fast flow(01:30:918 (1,2,3,1,2,3)), this spacing is too close. Just move (2) further or reverse like 01:33:918 (4).
01:46:132 (8) - Add a finish to the top! \:D/
01:47:846 (5) - ^ to the end.

加油!
When you need more explanation of this mod or more advices, feel free to ask me

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-11-13T15:03:46+00:00

sry I will check it soon
Now in remapping and I will use some of your suggestions, thanks!

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-11-22T10:11:35+00:00

finished.
来来来，140bpm不知道能不能让大家爽♂一♂爽

http://puu.sh/5pNkq.rar

zlfence

48 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

zlfence 2013-11-23T00:40:28+00:00

[Minakami Yuki] wrote:
finished.
来来来，140bpm不知道能不能让大家爽♂一♂爽

http://puu.sh/5pNkq.rar

速度好快- -那现在可以拉去Mod了- -

lkx_Shore

1,453 posts

Joined January 2010

lkx_Shore 2013-11-27T11:23:13+00:00

[General]

Hi
Remove Enable countdown and letterbox during breaks

[Feng]
00:11:203 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 前面滑条是高速移动回来这里就变低速移动了，莫名.
00:12:061 (1) - 换note然后紧接转盘比较好
00:14:632 (7) - 这个1/8下得莫名..要下就下两个1/8滑条
00:38:203 (3,4,5) - 链接得不太好
00:54:489 (7,1) - 叠一块吧
00:56:699 - add note?
01:22:346 (1,2) - 叠一块?
01:38:418 - add note?
01:39:918 (3) - 换1/2滑条
01:40:346 (1,2,3) - 这个人声的节奏你不跟吗
开头那一段2连x4连的节奏你全做成这样的连打我觉得没什么意思.
排版感觉和远古时期的图没什么区别，知道什么是应援团排版吗，我觉得你这个排版和他查不了多少...
表现力太差,节奏还没有能完全抓好，仍需努力

[Yuki]
00:04:989 (9) - 这两个音都让玩家点击到吧？
00:05:632 (2,3,4) - 这个三连打下得比较莫名
00:11:525 - 你跟的音轨里漏了这个音啊
00:13:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 处理得比较莫名,这里一开始红白线有强烈而明显的音,但开头却是个三连打，这样弱化了打击效果，
然后就是00:14:846 (6) - 的尾音应该也要让玩家打击到,而且他是长音,最好下个长滑条
00:18:489 (1,2) - 这个遮挡打起来有点蛋疼
00:20:632 (1) - add finish
00:24:489 (3,1) - 漏clap
00:26:632 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 切normal然后音量逐渐增大
00:28:346 (4) - 换成两个1/8滑条？
00:35:203 (2) - add whistle
00:42:489 (3) - ^
00:48:918 (2) - ^
01:01:989 (2,3,4) - 比较莫名，让玩家加速甩出去然后减速保持并匀速完成连打？
01:13:989 (2,3) - 这里才应该是三连打,把01:14:203 (3,4,5) - 改成两个单点
01:22:453 (2,4) - remove
01:30:275 (8,9) - 为啥突然用这么小间距
01:30:918 (1,2,3) - 记得滑条头加音效强化打击感,不然打起来就太软了
01:37:775 (1) - 滑条头加finish
01:39:275 (7) - add finish，并且换成1/1长滑条
01:46:132 (7) - 换note，然后把01:46:561 (1) - 叠在下面
01:47:846 (4) - 错误的节奏，这里不应该下红线滑条,这里的错误导致了后面01:48:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - 的节奏很怪
01:50:203 (3,5,1,3,4) - 加whistle
01:57:918 (1) - 漏clap
02:03:489 (1) - 换note然后紧接转盘会更好

[Hard]
00:21:489 (6) - 为啥重叠？
00:42:061 (1) - nc
01:00:061 (1,2,3) - 不适合的连打
01:32:418 - add note
Hard的抓节奏和insane一样，不过你得多加滑条带过去以降低难度

[Normal]
HP-2
OD-1

[Other]
~~你难道想别人喜欢这图是因为喜欢gd而不是喜欢自己的主难度吗((((~~

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-11-27T12:31:18+00:00

lkx_Shore wrote:

[Yuki]
00:04:989 (9) - 这两个音都让玩家点击到吧？不知道怎么改比较好，再考虑下
00:05:632 (2,3,4) - 这个三连打下得比较莫名我不觉得莫名啊-.- 可能是个人习惯
00:11:525 - 你跟的音轨里漏了这个音啊 added
00:13:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 处理得比较莫名,这里一开始红白线有强烈而明显的音,但开头却是个三连打，这样弱化了打击效果，
然后就是00:14:846 (6) - 的尾音应该也要让玩家打击到,而且他是长音,最好下个长滑条好，这里改了下，不知道是不是好点
00:18:489 (1,2) - 这个遮挡打起来有点蛋疼 2移出来了点
00:20:632 (1) - add finish
00:24:489 (3,1) - 漏clap
00:26:632 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 切normal然后音量逐渐增大虽然的确是normal连打音但是音量变大感觉很奇怪，改成了normal，音量50%
00:28:346 (4) - 换成两个1/8滑条？都stack好了就算了不改了
00:35:203 (2) - add whistle
00:42:489 (3) - ^
00:48:918 (2) - ^
01:01:989 (2,3,4) - 比较莫名，让玩家加速甩出去然后减速保持并匀速完成连打？把5往外移了点，其实啊，根本就不用加多少速
01:13:989 (2,3) - 这里才应该是三连打,把01:14:203 (3,4,5) - 改成两个单点 fixed
01:22:453 (2,4) - remove nope
01:30:275 (8,9) - 为啥突然用这么小间距好，改了
01:30:918 (1,2,3) - 记得滑条头加音效强化打击感,不然打起来就太软了妥
01:37:775 (1) - 滑条头加finish
01:39:275 (7) - add finish，并且换成1/1长滑条这个不知道怎么改，给个图例？
01:46:132 (7) - 换note，然后把01:46:561 (1) - 叠在下面感觉不舒服
01:47:846 (4) - 错误的节奏，这里不应该下红线滑条,这里的错误导致了后面01:48:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - 的节奏很怪 fixed，把滑条给成circle了，感觉是好点
01:50:203 (3,5,1,3,4) - 加whistle
01:57:918 (1) - 漏clap
02:03:489 (1) - 换note然后紧接转盘会更好好

音效部分全fixed
thx for modding

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lkx_Shore

1,453 posts

Joined January 2010

lkx_Shore 2013-11-27T12:56:53+00:00

[Minakami Yuki] wrote:
lkx_Shore wrote:
[list]
[Yuki]
[*]01:39:275 (7) - add finish，并且换成1/1长滑条这个不知道怎么改，给个图例？

就是红线起一个长滑条,滑条头带finish....

zlfence

48 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

zlfence 2013-11-28T14:57:27+00:00

[quote="lkx_Shore"][list][General]
[*]Hi
[*]Remove Enable countdown and letterbox during breaks Fix

[Feng]
[*]00:11:203 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 前面滑条是高速移动回来这里就变低速移动了，莫名.
[*]00:12:061 (1) - 换note然后紧接转盘比较好这样也可以吧- -
[*]00:14:632 (7) - 这个1/8下得莫名..要下就下两个1/8滑条我觉得蛮合适的- -
[*]00:38:203 (3,4,5) - 链接得不太好这样其实也可以啦~
[*]00:54:489 (7,1) - 叠一块吧为了形状好看- -orz
[*]00:56:699 - add note? 这里我听了很多遍，不加也可以~
[*]01:22:346 (1,2) - 叠一块? 为了造型好看点- -
[*]01:38:418 - add note? Fix~
[*]01:39:918 (3) - 换1/2滑条 Note小跳打起来比较舒服- -
[*]01:40:346 (1,2,3) - 这个人声的节奏你不跟吗前面都在跟节奏- -所以就不跟了- -

[*]开头那一段2连x4连的节奏你全做成这样的连打我觉得没什么意思.
[*]排版感觉和远古时期的图没什么区别，知道什么是应援团排版吗，我觉得你这个排版和他查不了多少... 远古图- -orz..
[*]表现力太差,节奏还没有能完全抓好，仍需努力我会努力的~

[Hard]
[*]00:21:489 (6) - 为啥重叠？重叠也没事吧？
[*]00:42:061 (1) - nc Fix
[*]01:00:061 (1,2,3) - 不适合的连打个人觉得还是可以的- -
[*]01:32:418 - add note Fix

[*]Hard的抓节奏和insane一样，不过你得多加滑条带过去以降低难度

[Normal] Fix
[*]HP-2
[*]OD-1

我也知道问题会比较多- -排版问题确实是硬伤- -即使我很努力的去排版了- -但是说了都是眼泪,还是经验太少了- -就目前来说我会慢慢学习的- -不可能一下子做的完美- -个人能力实在有限- -最后还是非常感谢你啦~~~

fanzhen0019

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,723 posts

Joined July 2010

fanzhen0019 2013-12-02T07:39:56+00:00

[Feng]
00:10:989 (4) - http://puu.sh/5zEdJ.jpg
00:12:061 - slider折返后面spinner后移
01:09:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里跟鼓可以放点normal
01:25:775 (9,1,2,1) - 这四个摆着不是长方形
然后你可以考虑关掉ds变长方形或者开着ds变等腰梯形
http://puu.sh/5zEum.jpg
01:34:346 (1) - 来一发finish
01:47:632 (5) - 这里和前面一样吧加个折返 spinner后移

[Yuki]
01:01:989 (2,3,4) - 间距不相等
01:37:775 - 没finish
01:39:275 - finish
02:03:489 (2) - finish
别的没了
+star

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-12-03T05:44:26+00:00

to fanzhen
all fixed
thx for modding

http://puu.sh/5ABLd.rar

Kytoxid

osu! Alumni

1,369 posts

Joined April 2009

Kytoxid 2013-12-04T09:04:48+00:00

Spoke with zlfence about this map a bit over IRC. Discussed flow on Hard/Insane, and readability of the patterns on Yuki.

Lost the first half of the logs when I disconnected, but here's the second half.

SPOILER

03:43 Kytoxid: Sorry, DCed randomly.
03:43 Kytoxid: Did you see what I said?
03:44 zlfence: yeah
03:45 zlfence: the last meaasge is mine
03:45 Kytoxid: What did you say?
03:45 zlfence: 16.40 zlfence：orz
03:45 Kytoxid: Ah.
03:45 Kytoxid: But yeah, those jumps are pretty hard to read without AR9.
03:45 Kytoxid: Guess there's just 1 diff left.
03:45 zlfence: Which Diff？
03:45 Kytoxid: Feng?
03:46 zlfence: Feng is my Diff
03:46 zlfence: Yuki is GD
03:46 Kytoxid: You should have received my messages on Yuki and Hard, right?
03:46 zlfence: only Hard
03:46 Kytoxid: Ohhh.
03:46 Kytoxid: Okay, I'll repeat what I said about Yuki then. I think it got lost.
03:47 Kytoxid: I think with the jumps it uses, it needs AR9.
03:47 zlfence: ho you are really kindly
03:47 Kytoxid: Even then, some of them are a bit awkward.
03:47 Kytoxid: I'm not sure how good the manual stacking looks when it comes from the bottom-left, feels kinda weird.
03:48 zlfence: umm i will tell what you says to Yuki
03:48 Kytoxid: Alright.
03:48 zlfence: and how about Feng?
03:48 Kytoxid: I haven't played it yet, since I DCed.
03:48 zlfence: OK
03:48 Kytoxid: I'll play it now.
03:48 zlfence: lets go
03:51 Kytoxid: It wasn't bad either.
03:51 zlfence: umm？
03:51 Kytoxid: It's considerably different from Yuki, which is good.
03:52 Kytoxid: You have a jumpy-style diff in Yuki, and a streamy one here.
03:52 zlfence: yeah
03:52 Kytoxid: It played pretty well overall, but felt a bit boring outside the streams.
03:53 Kytoxid: Some of the little sliders in the streams were tough.
03:53 Kytoxid: Since I had to guess the number of repeats.
03:53 zlfence: orzx
03:54 zlfence: And can you help me to Mod it ? Not for full mod and bubble
03:55 zlfence: just tell me something that you dont like ~~~
03:55 Kytoxid: lol
03:56 Kytoxid: Okay, I didn't like how different streams had different number of repeats on the sliders.
03:57 Kytoxid: Like some with 3 (01:51:918 (3) - ), some with 4 (01:57:382 (6) - , 02:00:382 (2) -, and some with a lot 02:03:489 (1) - ).
03:57 Kytoxid: 00:42:918 (1) - I didn't like how this section (and a couple other sections) where very straight and boxy.
03:58 Kytoxid: I think it would look/play better if it was made either to flow or to zig-zag.
03:58 zlfence: well
03:59 Kytoxid: 00:41:203 (1) - I can imagine the change in timing in this combo would be awkward if you didn't know the song, so I'd make 4-5 a slider instead of 2 notes.
03:59 zlfence: i will give more conside
03:59 Kytoxid: Yeah, it's fine, these are sort of just recommendations. I like having my pen move around more smoothly on these slower maps, but it's up to you.
04:01 Kytoxid: Anyways, it's pretty good overall.
04:01 Kytoxid: (like I said at the beginning)
04:01 zlfence: oh thanks~
04:02 zlfence: and can you post it into my Thread?
04:02 Kytoxid: Umm, I lost the first half of it from the disconnect, but I can post the second half.
04:03 zlfence: yeah it is enough

Good luck!

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-12-04T09:12:32+00:00

Kytoxid wrote:
03:45 Kytoxid: But yeah, those jumps are pretty hard to read without AR9.
03:47 Kytoxid: I think with the jumps it uses, it needs AR9.

YEAH I ALSO PREFER AR9 YEAH

Kytoxid wrote:
03:47 Kytoxid: Even then, some of them are a bit awkward.
03:47 Kytoxid: I'm not sure how good the manual stacking looks when it comes from the bottom-left, feels kinda weird.

enn... I will make a little change about some partterns
will give the new diff to zlfence soon

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,535 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2013-12-09T09:05:46+00:00

Normal

00:03:489 (3) - I think you should mirror 00:01:775 (1) for a nicer symmetrical shape
00:16:775 (3,4) - have the circle before the slider, shift the hitsounds accordingly back to where they were formerly placed in the timings
00:20:203 (3,4) - ^
00:23:632 (3,4) - this is an example of what it should be like for the previous 2 :X
00:49:346 (4,1) - distance spacing is not equal to the rest, you should fix it
01:05:632 (4) - rotate along selection centre by - 15%? blanket the previous note

SPOILER

01:07:775 (7,9) - you were trying to have 8 and 9 on the same horizontal level, but it would be better if 9 didn't overlap 7
01:09:918 - feels empty
01:17:203 (1) - finish on start of slider
01:24:061 (8) - NC
01:25:775 (1) - remove NC
01:27:489 (4) - NC
01:37:346 (1) - finish in middle of repeat slider
01:42:489 (6) - finish on start of slider

Hard

00:09:489 (7) - the finish hitsound doesn't sound like it is in place, put finish individually on each head
00:12:061 (1) - sounds like it ends on nothing in particular, better to end spinner at 00:15:061 -
00:16:775 (4,5,6) - the 2 circles before the slider
00:54:918 (3) - NC
01:10:132 - add a note
01:14:632 (3) - finish on the end of slider
01:21:275 (3) - finish
01:22:775 (2) - ^
01:24:061 (5) - NC
01:25:989 (1) - remove NC
01:27:489 (7) - NC
01:29:632 (1) - remove NC
01:30:918 (6) - NC
01:34:346 (1) - finish on start of slider
01:42:275 (5) - finish on end of slider

Yuki

00:05:632 (2,3,4) - change it to this rhythm, it fits way better:

SPOILER

00:12:061 (1) - all the way to 00:13:560 (3) - the 1/4 stream rhythm here does not make much sense along with the music
00:14:846 to 00:15:382 - continue the stream, don't break it into that slider and circle with 1/2 beats
01:39:275 (7) - finish
01:42:489 (3) - ^
01:43:346 (3) - ^

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-12-12T09:23:40+00:00

neonat wrote:
Yuki

00:05:632 (2,3,4) - change it to this rhythm, it fits way better: good
SPOILER
00:12:061 (1) - all the way to 00:13:560 (3) - the 1/4 stream rhythm here does not make much sense along with the music but i think it's good
00:14:846 to 00:15:382 - continue the stream, don't break it into that slider and circle with 1/2 beats ok
01:39:275 (7) - finish
01:42:489 (3) - ^
01:43:346 (3) - ^ all added

thanks
and diff name changed according to the new rule

SPOILER

osu file format v12

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SampleSet: Soft
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Mode: 0
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Artist:nao
ArtistUnicode:nao
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Source:Tiny Dungeon
Tags:Rosebleu Black and White Vueru sein Hokuto Minami Ono Ryouko Galgame [Minakami Yuki]
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don't worry, i afk for playing and mapping but i will still check mods and update my map

Ikaros_F

88 posts

Joined December 2012

Ikaros_F 2013-12-23T10:40:17+00:00

晚上好

[Insane]
00:06:703 (7,8,9) - 聽不見中間8的音，可以嘗試換成一個滑條？
00:07:132 (1,2) - 感觉这中间的蓝线还是有个音的，可以放下三连，和上面结合在一起,差不多就是这样→ http://puu.sh/5VRUC（顺便说一下我把你的NC取消了._.因为NC放在这里没有什么意义啊）
00:13:989 (1) - 还是NC
00:14:632 (7) - 我感觉1/8别扭，这里和前面一样弄成1/4的连打吧，可以把连打里note与note直接的距离弄近一些
00:27:061 (1) - NC问题
00:28:775 (11) - 我觉得这里用1/8会比较好
00:35:418 加一个Note,和00:35:203 (3,4,5,6) - 组合成5连
00:48:918 (4,5,6,7) - ↑
00:54:275 (6,7) - ctrl+G
02:03:061 (1) - NC
02:04:775 (7,1) - 我的建议是1/8回转滑条到蓝线处然后1往上移动一段距离，差不多→ http://puu.sh/5VSyv

[Yuki]
为什么我感觉ar8会比较合适一点._.肯定是我太弱了喵
00:13:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 红线和白线处都加clap会不会爽一点？
00:40:346 (1) - 换成bpm*0.5，到红线为止的滑条，可以为下一部分曲子做铺垫吧
01:10:025 (11) - 感觉5连有点奇怪啊，去掉这个吧
01:37:346 (5,6,7,8) - 换成2个短滑条吧

[Normal]
00:03:489 (3) - 和1对称吧
00:36:061 (1) - 还是换成在大白线处的note吧
01:00:061 (1,2) - 白线处的note，和上面一样
01:13:775 (1,2) - ↑

就摸到这里了
祝你上班玩恶俗不会被发现

hoshisorakiseki

300 posts

Joined January 2012

hoshisorakiseki 2013-12-23T13:47:59+00:00

晚上好
来自QQ

全局：
Tag统一一下
02:05:203 - 后面建议做完

难度：Normal
01:05:203 (3,4) - 包好

难度：Hard
00:09:275 (6,7) - 想这样的注意一下，尽量包好
00:10:775 (1,2,3) - 后面再加一个note然后移到00:11:203 (4)的附近
00:34:346 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 觉得这里有点简单
00:48:061 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 跟上面重复？不太好吧

难度：Yuki's Insane
怀疑爆星
~~00:58:989 (4) - 1.2x之后就瞬间变成了2.8x，怀疑是人~~ 没事了

难度：Insane
00:08:203 (3,4,5) - 后面补一个note

加油

Zweib

579 posts

Joined November 2011

Zweib 2013-12-23T14:37:58+00:00

Hi`来凑个数orz

总体挺好的;w;谱面很整洁

[Normal]
Countdown没关
01:34:346 (1) - 低难度里不太建议使用这种多次折返。。更何况没有和它成对使用的情况出现，建议拆成两个slider

[Hard]
感觉音效有点简单，试着根据bgm加绿线调调音量，做做样子(大雾
01:00:489 (4) - 这个blanket我觉得是可以修一下的：

SPOILER

01:18:918 (5) - NC
02:02:632 (1) - remove NC?
01:39:382 (6) - 这个可以不要？

[Insane]
00:15:489 (1,2,3) - 这里和00:18:918 (1,2,3) - 与后面的00:24:061 (1,2) - 这里节奏不太一样，打起来会比较别扭。我建议你用后面那种节奏下法，因为这里的乐器声(电钢琴？）听起来在蓝线上的音比较重，所以滑条从蓝线起比较好(这样手指是在蓝线的时候按下）后面的01:51:489 (1,2,3) - 也是这样
01:12:918 (5) - test里看这个地方比较丑。这个5其实可以跟8stack在一起，因为是重音，所以跳远一点也没关系，最好5这个还可以NC一下
00:36:489 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 这里实际打起来感觉也不怎么好看，你可以每三个一组旋转一个角度，排列看上去就高档许多：

SPOILER

[Yuki's Insane]
wocao AR9不给DT，无情;w;
00:10:346 (1,2,3) - 这个地方打起来有点憋手，因为从(1)到(4)这段flow的距离太长了，如果你希望让人打起来爽♂一点，可以试试这种:

SPOILER

嘛也可能你就是想追求这种划过整边屏幕的感觉，不妨作为以后的一种参考
00:56:525 (12,1) - 这个ds大了一点点，好像有点影响美观。。。故意的？
01:23:525 (4) - 170,91 这个好像歪的比较明显

zlfence

48 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

zlfence 2013-12-24T00:33:18+00:00

Zweib wrote:
Hi`来凑个数orz

总体挺好的;w;谱面很整洁

[Normal]
Countdown没关
01:34:346 (1) - 低难度里不太建议使用这种多次折返。。更何况没有和它成对使用的情况出现，建议拆成两个slider

[Hard]
感觉音效有点简单，试着根据bgm加绿线调调音量，做做样子(大雾
01:00:489 (4) - 这个blanket我觉得是可以修一下的：
SPOILER
01:18:918 (5) - NC
02:02:632 (1) - remove NC?
01:39:382 (6) - 这个可以不要？

[Insane]
00:15:489 (1,2,3) - 这里和00:18:918 (1,2,3) - 与后面的00:24:061 (1,2) - 这里节奏不太一样，打起来会比较别扭。我建议你用后面那种节奏下法，因为这里的乐器声(电钢琴？）听起来在蓝线上的音比较重，所以滑条从蓝线起比较好(这样手指是在蓝线的时候按下）后面的01:51:489 (1,2,3) - 也是这样
01:12:918 (5) - test里看这个地方比较丑。这个5其实可以跟8stack在一起，因为是重音，所以跳远一点也没关系，最好5这个还可以NC一下
00:36:489 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 这里实际打起来感觉也不怎么好看，你可以每三个一组旋转一个角度，排列看上去就高档许多：
SPOILER

[Yuki's Insane]
wocao AR9不给DT，无情;w;
00:10:346 (1,2,3) - 这个地方打起来有点憋手，因为从(1)到(4)这段flow的距离太长了，如果你希望让人打起来爽♂一点，可以试试这种:
SPOILER
嘛也可能你就是想追求这种划过整边屏幕的感觉，不妨作为以后的一种参考
00:56:525 (12,1) - 这个ds大了一点点，好像有点影响美观。。。故意的？
01:23:525 (4) - 170,91 这个好像歪的比较明显

早上起来多了3个Mod，真的是温暖人心...晚上再改- -白天上班...

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2013-12-24T04:51:40+00:00

Ikaros_F wrote:
[Yuki]
为什么我感觉ar8会比较合适一点._.肯定是我太弱了喵喵
00:13:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 红线和白线处都加clap会不会爽一点？喵！
00:40:346 (1) - 换成bpm*0.5，到红线为止的滑条，可以为下一部分曲子做铺垫吧喵？
01:10:025 (11) - 感觉5连有点奇怪啊，去掉这个吧喵！
01:37:346 (5,6,7,8) - 换成2个短滑条吧喵-.-

Zweib wrote:
[Yuki's Insane]
wocao AR9不给DT，无情;w; ;w;求mu
00:10:346 (1,2,3) - 这个地方打起来有点憋手，因为从(1)到(4)这段flow的距离太长了，如果你希望让人打起来爽♂一点，可以试试这种:
SPOILER
嘛也可能你就是想追求这种划过整边屏幕的感觉，不妨作为以后的一种参考喵！
00:56:525 (12,1) - 这个ds大了一点点，好像有点影响美观。。。故意的？ds没调好喵0.0
01:23:525 (4) - 170,91 这个好像歪的比较明显喵！

Troogle wrote:
[Yuki]

00:54:061 (3) - 头上Whistle? 喵
[Yuki]

00:27:382 (4,1) - 头稍微往下点喵
01:04:132 (2,4) - 4和2对称？喵
01:22:346 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 自己稍微修下吧23333 喵喵喵喵

喵喵喵(thanks) 喵(for) 喵喵喵(modding)

SPOILER

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275,140,89203,5,2,0:0:0:0:
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149,275,90489,1,8,0:0:0:0:
31,188,90703,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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372,52,91775,6,0,P|303:38|239:67,1,144,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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251,279,94775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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37,218,97561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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351,174,98953,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,20,100775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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312,300,102275,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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138,46,106561,5,6,0:0:0:0:
77,330,106775,1,12,0:0:0:0:
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264,313,113739,2,0,L|283:361,1,45
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306,66,114168,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,91,114275,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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463,361,115882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
429,352,115989,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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408,184,116846,2,0,L|453:201,1,45
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Nepu

211 posts

Joined September 2013

Nepu 2013-12-24T05:03:55+00:00

昨晚忘掉了QxQ
~~我来加SP~~

General

Countdown和Letterbox break统一下
Clear

Hitsound

[Normal]

00:04:346 (4) - 漏clap
01:31:775 (4) - 为神马突然冒了一个Whistle/w\

[Hard]

00:09:489 (7) - 去掉中间的clap?(因为这个音00:08:632 (5) - 没有强调0.0）
01:19:775 (8) - ^
01:22:132 (6) - 换clap？
01:22:346 (1) - 换finish？

[Yuki]

00:54:061 (3) - 头上Whistle?

Insane
听不动了……

Pattern&Others

总之这图让人感觉很“干净”，所以就想尽可能的提升“干净”的程度
所谓要做就要做到极致？
[Normal]

01:34:346 (1) - N建议只用一次折返
01:05:203 (3,4) - 包好？（旋转01:05:632 (4) - ）
01:12:061 (3,4) - ^
01:25:346 (2,3) - ^
01:36:918 (4,1) - ^

[Hard]

00:09:275 (6,7) - 虽然很无聊还是包住吧/.\
00:16:346 (3,4) - 包好顺带调整下flow
00:17:418 (5,6,7,9) - 是用多边形的么9.9
00:42:918 (1,4) - 稍微包一点？
01:00:061 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:20:953 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 这是随手排的么0.0还是想做直线呢0.0？
01:26:632 (5,6) - /.\
01:52:346 (3,4) - /.\
01:54:918 (1) - 向下向右1格
02:04:775 (7) - 向下向左1格

[Yuki]

00:27:382 (4,1) - 头稍微往下点
01:04:132 (2,4) - 4和2对称？
01:22:346 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 自己稍微修下吧23333

[Insane]

00:08:096 (x) - 补note
00:08:525 (x) - 补note
00:27:811 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - 1要向上点的感觉
02:01:561 (8,6) - 叠好？

打不动的diff也摸不动OTL

祝早日rank~~

sammy711

207 posts

Joined November 2012

sammy711 2013-12-28T19:42:35+00:00

sorry for late

zlfence

48 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

zlfence 2013-12-30T05:19:58+00:00

sammy711 wrote:
sorry for late

我最近也很忙- -过年了事情一大堆...

Colin Hou

osu! Alumni

4,456 posts

Joined November 2009

Colin Hou 2014-01-11T12:12:06+00:00

[General]

countdown/letterbox的有无需要一致一下
source:Tiny Dungeon ～BLACK and WHITE～
title:blade heart
以上参照这里

[Insane]

自己加节奏的地方很多，比如很多00:05:203 (1,2)这样没跟vocal也没什么乐器的地方，关键还漏了点东西所以不算好
AR推荐9，8勉强说得通，不过OD7在这没变速140的图上没什么理由，建议到8
00:35:846 (7) - 这种note 要么变成一个slider的末尾要么就留空全程1/2间隔到底太偷懒建议好好把各个乐器部分分出来理一下
00:36:489 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - 这种梗一般会做在重复部分吧，但是目前看要用好至少前移到1的位置
00:42:489 (6,7,8,1) - 偏偏把00:42:811这里漏了
01:47:953 (1) - 起始位置比较怪，可以选在vocal的某个长音开始比如01:48:489
02:03:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 89那里没跟keyboard吧，其实建议换个结束方法，目前太平

[Yuki's Insane]

00:15:061 (11) - 应该没这么多吧
00:18:489 (1) - 只是因为地方不够多就变成repeat-slider是不是有点太随意了
00:28:239 - 不建议留空
01:39:918 (2) - clap
01:42:489 (3) - clap去掉或者01:41:632 (2) - clap
02:01:346 (1) - clap
02:03:596 (1) - 太省事了...的感觉

[Hard]

00:10:775 (1,2,3) - 现在的clap用来打拍子还好，拿来当1/4的鼓点有点雷
Hard比Insane工整很多，大概和本身的打图能力也有关系..

[Normal]

00:08:632 (1,2,3) - 请至少丢在重音上啊这里是很普通的3/4

来的略晚，匿惹

Colin Hou

osu! Alumni

4,456 posts

Joined November 2009

Colin Hou 2014-01-24T15:15:34+00:00

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