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KOTOKO - BLAZE (TV Size)

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Topic Starter
Kodora
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 26 июля 2013 г. at 20:32:32

Artist: KOTOKO
Title: BLAZE (TV Size)
Source: Shakugan no Shana II
Tags: Opening J.C Staff Takase Kazuya Laurier KSHR 灼眼のシャナ
BPM: 128
Filesize: 12316kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Blaze (5 stars, 273 notes)
  2. Easy (1,84 stars, 84 notes)
  3. KSHR's Normal (4,07 stars, 129 notes)
  4. Laurier's Hard (4,75 stars, 188 notes)
Download: KOTOKO - BLAZE (TV Size)
Download: KOTOKO - BLAZE (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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10.07.2013 - changed mp3, redownload please if you have old one

Special thanks to Card N'FoRcE for helping me with this
Hard by Laurier
Normal by KSHR
BG & combo colours stolen from Andrea's map because i dont know how to find them properly ^^"
meiikyuu
mod ~~

Blaze

  1. 00:05:640 (4) - make this same distance between 00:04:940 (3) - and 00:05:873 (1) -
  2. 00:07:762 (1) - NC might not be necessary for such a small gap?
  3. 00:10:574 (1) - remove NC
  4. 00:14:793 (1) - remove NC and NC on next note
  5. 00:15:965 (3) - move to x:152 y:304 (for equal spacing)
  6. 00:16:199 (1) - remove NC
  7. 00:19:363 (10) - NC
  8. 00:19:715 (1) - remove NC
  9. 00:29:793 (9) - ^
  10. 00:37:762 (1) - add finish ~
  11. 00:38:699 (3) - whistle sounds too random at the end imo
  12. 00:51:590 (5,6,7,8) - stack these couples like u did before?
  13. 00:59:207 (1) - remove NC
nothing big to point out , just some combos and little spacing :)
good luck!!
Topic Starter
Kodora

meiikyuu wrote:

mod ~~

Blaze

  1. 00:05:640 (4) - make this same distance between 00:04:940 (3) - and 00:05:873 (1) - done
  2. 00:07:762 (1) - NC might not be necessary for such a small gap? it here for kiai :p
  3. 00:10:574 (1) - remove NC yup
  4. 00:14:793 (1) - remove NC and NC on next note done
  5. 00:15:965 (3) - move to x:152 y:304 (for equal spacing) done
  6. 00:16:199 (1) - remove NC done
  7. 00:19:363 (10) - NC done
  8. 00:19:715 (1) - remove NC done
  9. 00:29:793 (9) - ^ done
  10. 00:37:762 (1) - add finish ~ done
  11. 00:38:699 (3) - whistle sounds too random at the end imo oops my mistake
  12. 00:51:590 (5,6,7,8) - stack these couples like u did before? no, i love this pattern :p
  13. 00:59:207 (1) - remove NC nc since jump, its ok :p
nothing big to point out , just some combos and little spacing :)
good luck!!
thank you meii ^^
[Epicz]
Source should be: Shakugan no Shana II (w/o OP)
Tags: Anime Animation Opening J.C Staff Takase Kazuya
Topic Starter
Kodora

[Epicz] wrote:

Source should be: Shakugan no Shana II (w/o OP)
Tags: Anime Animation Opening J.C Staff Takase Kazuya
Anime & Animation are unneeded in tags, it will be added in gentre

other fixed
ignorethis
1) mp3 should be changed

2) raise the volume to ~80% since i could bearly hear any hitsounds

3) arrangement of objects could be more variable

00:00:275 - 00:05:640 (4) - you could make this part match the song rather than using your own rhythm

rhythm in other parts of the map is great though
Topic Starter
Kodora

ignorethis wrote:

1) mp3 should be changed okay

2) raise the volume to ~80% since i could bearly hear any hitsounds i raised to 65-70%

3) arrangement of objects could be more variable i'll change some... maybe. but generally you're right here

00:00:275 - 00:05:640 (4) - you could make this part match the song rather than using your own rhythm nope, it was planned

rhythm in other parts of the map is great though thanks ^^
Thanks for mod ^^

Searching for a better mp3.
Mikan
irc
06:44 Kodora: good morning Mikan >w<
06:44 Mikan: hello
06:45 Mikan: I sleep from now lol
06:45 Kodora: Mikan, you still busy for mods? :<
06:46 Mikan: mod?
06:46 Mikan: kodora map?
06:47 Kodora: yes
06:47 Kodora: 1 diff
06:47 Kodora: www
06:47 Mikan: np pls
06:47 Mikan: lol
06:47 *Kodora is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/267831 KOTOKO - BLAZE (TV Size)]
06:47 Kodora: :3
06:47 Mikan: ok
06:48 Mikan: i'm mod from now
06:48 Kodora: nice ^^
06:51 Mikan: irc mod ok?
06:51 Kodora: oki
06:52 Mikan: 00:01:674 (4) -
06:53 Kodora: o.o?
06:53 Mikan: 2 left 1down
06:53 Mikan: Clean triangle
06:53 Mikan: http://puu.sh/3vcaH.png
06:55 Kodora: done
07:00 Mikan: 00:22:293 (5,6,7,8,9) -
07:00 Mikan: line up neatly
07:02 Kodora: i always suck on such things lol
07:02 Kodora: did it better, hope it looks more fine now
07:02 Mikan: http://puu.sh/3vcyV.png
07:02 Mikan: y :)
07:03 Kodora: my own still sucks :<
07:03 Kodora: can you please code?
07:05 Mikan: hmm...
07:05 Mikan: I do not know how to find the code
07:06 Kodora: delete all hitobjects except this stream
07:06 Kodora: save map
07:06 Kodora: open it in notepad
07:06 Kodora: copy [Hitobjects] & sent it for me
07:06 Kodora: update map after this
07:06 Kodora: :)
07:10 Mikan: http://puu.sh/3vcRl.osu
07:10 Mikan: :3
07:17 Kodora: done :3
07:22 Mikan: ok
07:24 Mikan: 00:46:902 (3) - spacing
07:24 Mikan: 1.21 ?
07:24 Kodora: nice catch haha 1.28 much more weird
07:24 Kodora: fixed
07:24 Mikan: 00:50:887 (1) -
07:25 Mikan: http://puu.sh/3vdtc.png
07:25 Mikan: better
07:25 Kodora: nope, it was done for a whole pattern :<
07:26 Kodora: 00:50:887 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - for this i mean
07:27 Mikan: aa
07:27 Mikan: ok
07:29 Mikan: 00:50:418 (2) -
07:29 Mikan: http://puu.sh/3vdCN.png
07:29 Mikan: Flow is good
07:30 Kodora: nope because spacing & will look to mirrored... i'll think how to make it better
07:32 Mikan: hm ok
07:32 Mikan: end :)
07:32 Mikan: nice map
07:32 Kodora: thank you moe Mikan >w<
kosiga
Hi~ Kodora :3

thank you for the request~

here my mod~

[General]
  1. Why do you demand other mp3? I felt that it is already sufficient quality. :P but I tried a thing of other sound quality. so Please check it by yourself once. and attach low-quality video together ⇒ http://puu.sh/3tjho.zip
  2. Song Setup - Audio Lead-in - It seems too short. +2000ms
[Blaze]
  1. 00:01:674 (4,1) - It seems to be randomly placed. for ex, how to put it to have a pattern. http://puu.sh/3tjZK.jpg ( i use 00:01:674 (4) - copy 00:00:275 (1). 00:02:141 (1) - copy 00:00:974 (3). )
  2. 00:02:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmm.. It has the original rhythm as compared to the rhythm of before or after. I prefer to put them in a constant rhythm. :P for ex: http://puu.sh/3tkzS.jpg ( and Place to put a whistle: 00:02:607. 00:03:191. 00:03:424. 00:03:774. ) and 00:03:191 (5) - if you change the rhythm, I think there is no need to change the volume here. or even if you do not change the rhythm, I thought there is no need to change the volume and whistle.
  3. 00:07:273 (7) - remove whistle to start and end of the slider. and volume change to 40%. ( do not have a sound almost here. so I recommend that place to fit the sound rather than put a whistle. )
  4. 00:07:762 - Overlap of the green line and red line. so plz remove green line that does not have a meaning. also 00:07:820.
  5. 00:10:574 (5,6,7) - 00:11:043 (6,7) - I feel that these do not match vocal. even if it is based upon the sound :( 00:11:277 - I think that you should put a sound for the beginning of vocal here. for ex: http://puu.sh/3vj13.jpg (I thought this was enough.) or http://puu.sh/3vj8u.jpg ( emphasize a vocal rhythm. i prefer this. ) or http://puu.sh/3vjlG.jpg ( another pattern )
  6. 00:15:144 (x) - i prefer to put the sound here for vocal. so i suggest add note here or 00:14:793 (9) - extend the slider end.
  7. 00:17:137 (5,6) - Suggestion of the form: http://puu.sh/3vjNn.jpg ( just suggest. but also it is important that use map widely :) )
  8. 00:22:762 (9) - add finish. ( additions-soft )
  9. 00:27:215 (1,2) - volume is slightly lower. I think that even 65% are enough. >_<;
  10. 00:30:965 (1,2) - ^
  11. 00:34:949 (4,1) - Suggestion of the flow for ex: http://puu.sh/3vkvB.jpg ( 00:34:949 (4,1) - The distinction between the flow of these. )
  12. 00:47:137 (4) - if you want can be expanded end to 00:47:488. and 00:47:605 (5) - end to 00:47:840. and 00:48:074 - add note. and with 00:49:012 (3) - end to 00:49:363. http://puu.sh/3vkMG.jpg
  13. 00:51:590 (5) - i prefer add NC here. and 00:52:293 (1) - remove NC.
  14. 00:53:933 (1) - add whistle. It will be able to emphasize the vocal as 01:01:433 (1) -
  15. 00:55:808 (1) - ^
  16. 00:59:324 (2,3) - add finish to end of the slider. ( sampleset-soft )
  17. 01:06:590 (x) - have a vocal should be emphasized here. since you match most with vocal-rhythm in kiai-time. so I suggest rhythm to put note here. for ex: http://puu.sh/3vlrk.jpg ( i use 1/4. Because I thought that it was fit even if it was not 1/8. :P )
>.<

Good luck :)
Topic Starter
Kodora

kosiga wrote:

Hi~ Kodora :3

thank you for the request~

here my mod~

[General]
  1. Why do you demand other mp3? I felt that it is already sufficient quality. :P because of two reasons: first - it have unnaturally bpm change what most like should not exist (probably mp3 fault). second - soft "clicking" sound at some parts what is not part of music. If its ok i'll try to get more opinions about mp3's quality.but I tried a thing of other sound quality. so Please check it by yourself once. and attach low-quality video together ⇒ http://puu.sh/3tjho.zip thanks ^w^ denied video due to quality & because it not fit the song as for me lol
  2. Song Setup - Audio Lead-in - It seems too short. +2000ms added lol i was sure that i set it before
[Blaze]
  1. 00:01:674 (4,1) - It seems to be randomly placed. for ex, how to put it to have a pattern. http://puu.sh/3tjZK.jpg ( i use 00:01:674 (4) - copy 00:00:275 (1). 00:02:141 (1) - copy 00:00:974 (3). ) changed
  2. 00:02:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmm.. It has the original rhythm as compared to the rhythm of before or after. I prefer to put them in a constant rhythm. :P for ex: http://puu.sh/3tkzS.jpg ( and Place to put a whistle: 00:02:607. 00:03:191. 00:03:424. 00:03:774. ) and 00:03:191 (5) - if you change the rhythm, I think there is no need to change the volume here. or even if you do not change the rhythm, I thought there is no need to change the volume and whistle. very good, applied all
  3. 00:07:273 (7) - remove whistle to start and end of the slider. and volume change to 40%. ( do not have a sound almost here. so I recommend that place to fit the sound rather than put a whistle. ) i do not know how this instrument called but it sounds so loud here and i think that whistle is needed because of it.
  4. 00:07:762 - Overlap of the green line and red line. so plz remove green line that does not have a meaning. my fault, fixed. (i found bpm change here after adding green lines) also 00:07:820.
  5. 00:10:574 (5,6,7) - 00:11:043 (6,7) - I feel that these do not match vocal. even if it is based upon the sound :( 00:11:277 - I think that you should put a sound for the beginning of vocal here. for ex: http://puu.sh/3vj13.jpg (I thought this was enough.) or http://puu.sh/3vj8u.jpg ( emphasize a vocal rhythm. i prefer this. ) or http://puu.sh/3vjlG.jpg ( another pattern ) Applied first one. Second one missed strong best on vocal-based slider so i prefer first instead :p
  6. 00:15:144 (x) - i prefer to put the sound here for vocal. so i suggest add note here or 00:14:793 (9) - extend the slider end. extended slider
  7. 00:17:137 (5,6) - Suggestion of the form: http://puu.sh/3vjNn.jpg ( just suggest. but also it is important that use map widely :) ) keeping mine for now because your added jump and i'm not sure about this but maybe i'll change it later
  8. 00:22:762 (9) - add finish. ( additions-soft ) yes
  9. 00:27:215 (1,2) - volume is slightly lower. I think that even 65% are enough. >_<; was unsure about it too, applied!
  10. 00:30:965 (1,2) - ^ here too
  11. 00:34:949 (4,1) - Suggestion of the flow for ex: http://puu.sh/3vkvB.jpg ( 00:34:949 (4,1) - The distinction between the flow of these. ) i like it, applied!
  12. 00:47:137 (4) - if you want can be expanded end to 00:47:488. and 00:47:605 (5) - end to 00:47:840. and 00:48:074 - add note. and with 00:49:012 (3) - end to 00:49:363. http://puu.sh/3vkMG.jpg good, applied all.
  13. 00:51:590 (5) - i prefer add NC here. and 00:52:293 (1) - remove NC. nope because pattern combo
  14. 00:53:933 (1) - add whistle. It will be able to emphasize the vocal as 01:01:433 (1) - yes
  15. 00:55:808 (1) - ^ yes
  16. 00:59:324 (2,3) - add finish to end of the slider. ( sampleset-soft )
  17. 01:06:590 (x) - have a vocal should be emphasized here. since you match most with vocal-rhythm in kiai-time. so I suggest rhythm to put note here. for ex: http://puu.sh/3vlrk.jpg ( i use 1/4. Because I thought that it was fit even if it was not 1/8. :P ) sorry, no, because i focusing mostly on drums here :p
>.<

Good luck :)
thanks, really helpful mod >w<

to next modders: please, tell me how much acceptable quality of this mp3
Laurier
Topic Starter
Kodora
added, thanks :3
Mashley
Both diffs are generally pretty solid and hard to criticise. Nice work!

Laurier's Hard
00:51:355 (2,3,4,5) - Patterns like this can throw players off. Personally I was okay with it but someone of lower skill level might struggle.
01:26:043 (4,5,1,2) - Similar issue here.

Blaze
Spacing is very inconsistent, but I would say that I didn't feel like it was off while playing so it might just work.
00:06:573 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Daaamn this pattern is hard to read. Just change it somehow, the spacing and timing changes make it cramped and confusing. This really threw me off when I was playing it. It technically fits the music but players will be confused by this.
01:26:277 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - As above, this is a little weird.

As I said I will check the new difficulty when it's added, but may time some reminding.
Topic Starter
Kodora

Mashley wrote:

Both diffs are generally pretty solid and hard to criticise. Nice work!


Blaze
Spacing is very inconsistent, but I would say that I didn't feel like it was off while playing so it might just work. Yes, it was planned, just a little spacing raising on strong parts, that wouldnt hurt players even if they will play with mods.
00:06:573 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Daaamn this pattern is hard to read. Just change it somehow, the spacing and timing changes make it cramped and confusing. This really threw me off when I was playing it. It technically fits the music but players will be confused by this. This is most generosity thing what i can made here, song naturally have 1/8 beats here and just replacing with 1/4 will not work - sounds too empty. Timing change is probably mp3's fault, but in any case note on new timeline is way far away to get any confusion here.
01:26:277 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - As above, this is a little weird. same here

As I said I will check the new difficulty when it's added, but may time some reminding.
soulfear
:)
Topic Starter
Kodora
^^
Shiro
timing check real quick

offset 307 // BPM 129,000 offset is like, 50ms more than you have, and BPM is different
offset 7764 // BPM 128,000 that's +2 from what you have

This should be good
Topic Starter
Kodora
thank you, fixed
Topic Starter
Kodora
ffff

first section way TOO late. changed back for now.
Card N'FoRcE
I got asked for timing help.
My response is that the mp3 was flawed and i'm baffled noone else even noticed.
After i told him, Kodora asked me to check with another mp3 he already had and we got it working with one single 128BPM section.
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