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Sephibro
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Sephibro
i have already some ideas

but let's go with order, and i want to hear your ideas too

@Nyquill: you have to (or can) send your second vote by pm to jinxy, don't you?
bmin11
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Edited my post because I wanted to add "GiF being RB + shot is definitely possible, since the pool was small enough for him to shoot a scum. Though, having both RB and RS on the same team is another matter." that line, because my original post was gone before >_>; Sorry about that.
Raging Bull
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p/2780333

Tanzklaue wrote:

fartownik wrote:

GG then. I still think lynching a newbie is usually bad D1 and we shouldn't have done that, but it's good we got one scum down D1 already.
well, he didn't do his best to convince anyone if you're honest. on day 1, especially without many scumreads, lynching a guy who obviously doesn't give a fuck about the game is always an option.

also agree with gif, there is obviously a busser on that wagon. mafia somehow needs to salvage this, and a bus is a gamble that might work out for them.

This post pinged me a bit. I don't think Tanz voted for anyone D1 or seemed suspicious of anyone. But then when oni was hammered, it seemed like his opinion changed despite the fact oni was consistently not playing. Tanz could have had the opportunity to vote already instead of oni being hammered.
Raging Bull
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Sephibro wrote:

i have already some ideas

but let's go with order, and i want to hear your ideas too

@Nyquill: you have to (or can) send your second vote by pm to jinxy, don't you?
No, he voted farto and Tanz on his second post.

p/2797120

p/2797556 Its just chen instead of Nyquill.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
at that point, i thought oni was scum, because he said so, and it was more like a "well killing the inactive is also an valid option" thing. like, if you have nothing better to do anyway, then go after people who are not helping town or hurting town.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
btw after he flipped town i was so convinced that he would ping my role the next day, but that didn't happen...
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
ping your role?

Also the only thing I can notice off is that you were only suspicious of Sephi but you didn't even vote him.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue

Raging Bull wrote:

ping your role?
I'm a coroner. getting the right information from wrong flips is what i do.
Raging Bull
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I guess to a lesser extent, the role can match with your character. Judge of the dead? I guess? What was the reason for not voting in D1?
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
no strong scumreads.
NoHitter
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Raging Bull wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

I jailed bmin N2, because he was a most likely town and had no immediate power I could interfere with my block.
Also, GiF wasn't likely going to shoot bmin. If I tried going for blocking scum, I may have protected them by mistake.
But if you potentially blocked scum, you might have also prevented a kill. Killing bmin would have made no sense anyways since essentially bmin would be confirmed and can be saved for lylo or in any case where scum can be found.
Back then when I was sending in my decision, I was thinking what would happen if there was only one kill.
If GiF shot town and there would only be one kill, GiF would probably be drawn for the lynch.
NoHitter
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Basically I wanted to confirm GiF's role, though that didn't end up well did it.
If the flavor implies that GiF and Dake died together because of hider, then I should have just targeted GiF instead.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
oh damn. i got nothing. teach me how to think that deep
bmin11
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If we assume Nyquil is a mafia doublevoter and there are two scums left, we are in a MyLo or 3:3 vote tie if we mislynch and prevent a nightkill.
bmin11
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bmin11
Actually, screw the above post. We'll only be on 3:3 tie if we mislynch and fail to prevent. We are in a safe spot still even if Nyquil is mafia.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
either bmin or nyquill has to be mafia while the other has to be town.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
has it occured to anyone that if I was mafia doublevoter I wouldn't have claimed something else
Nyquill
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Nyquill
would have*
Nyquill
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Sephibro wrote:

i have already some ideas

but let's go with order, and i want to hear your ideas too

@Nyquill: you have to (or can) send your second vote by pm to jinxy, don't you?
I can't
Nyquill
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also: Has it occured to anyone that the flavor for scum left alive is reimu and marisa and I am CONFIRMED yakumo!? use your brains people.
Tanzklaue
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Nyquill wrote:

also: Has it occured to anyone that the flavor for scum left alive is reimu and marisa and I am CONFIRMED yakumo!? use your brains people.
nue was scum, and some of gensokyo's more typical scum suspects (flandre, remilia) were town.

would be way to easy to judge it solely on flavour.
if anything, yakumo is one of those "mor elikely to be scum" suspects i'd say.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
inb4 you missread: reimu and marisa aren't players, as they aren't inviteted to the event. they are more likely the executioners if i had to guess, outside of the game.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
ok let's talk about doublevoter role

we recently had a game where there was a town doublevoter (rEdo) and a scum doublevoter (CalignoBot) (multiball)

there were 2 big differences between these 2 roles:
1. town dv has to post his second vote on topic, as if it was a normal vote, while scum dv could post it by pm to the mod
2. town dv appeared with his name in the votecount for both his votes, while the second vote of scum dv was anonymous

I looked for Yakumo Ran on some touhou wiki, and the name of Chen appears immediately, so i feel pretty safe to consider Nyquill town, at least for now
Nyquill
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Nyquill
scum DV by pm seems stupid op wtf
Nyquill
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By the way, still nothing addressed to my first point. I would really have made an easier claim if I was scum if I was really scum DV
Sephibro
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Nyquill wrote:

scum DV by pm seems stupid op wtf
ok this post of yours makes you shift slightly towards scum
Nyquill
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I don't think I understand.

also I shifted his vote to farto because his claimed seemed to mask safety with complication
Sephibro
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Sephibro
my top 2 scumreads are now NoHitter and fartownik btw

you're third Nyquill
Nyquill
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Let me make a quick list here so I can refer back to it later without searching through pages.

Tanz - Coroner (Where's the janitor?)
Nyquill
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Fuck I hit control

Nyquill - DV
Farto - Wierd JOAT
RB - Reviver
NH - JK
Sephi - Motivator
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue

Nyquill wrote:

Let me make a quick list here so I can refer back to it later without searching through pages.

Tanz - Coroner (Where's the janitor?)
that's a good question. ask that jinxy, not me.
Nyquill
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Inb4 we have a death miller
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
also rb is 1 shot bulletproof, not reviver. they are different.
Nyquill
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Okay let me try that again (in claim order)

Bmin - Restless spirit (1-day)
Tanz - Auto Coroner (nothing revealed)(Perhaps mafia has a method of knowing a coroner exists which has made them withhold janitor kills)
Nyquill - Double Voter via Chen
Farto - Weird JOAT that has a different ability each night. Targeted me n1 to confirm yakumo, targeted Dake n2 revealed nothing. N3 will be weak doctor, then doctor N4, then Strong Willed Vig.
NoHitter - Jailkeeper. Bmin target n2 (n1?)
Sephi - 2-shot motivator. GiF n2, nothing N1.
Nyquill
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RB between Farto and NH - 1 shot bp
NoHitter
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Sephi just did two 180's on me.
Scum -> Town -> Scum.

Why?
Sephibro
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NoHitter wrote:

Scum -> Town -> Scum.
i read you scum first because i was right
then i read you town for a bit because you didn't hesitate to put your vote on rEdo (but since the choice was among you and him, every scum would have voted his useless scumpartner)
then you're scum again because of poe and because of the jailkeeper claim
NoHitter
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Uhh I wasn't even being voted by anyone except you when I switched my vote...
NoHitter
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Mod: What happens if a JK and RB block each other?
Sephibro
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Sephibro
it generates a paradox and a black hole wipes this game away
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Do we even have a role blocker in this game?
Sephibro
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Sephibro
maybe
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
It's more like I don't really see the point of the question unless NH is hiding something.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
I think this question is trivial. you claim that you are town, nh, and thus if there is a role blocker he should be scum. in your hypothetical scenario, only if gif targeted the role blocker you jailkept could've made this a relevant question.

but, we don't know who or even if gif targeted anyone. we don't know if there are 2 role blocking roles in the game. the question has no point at all.
NoHitter
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I was just thinking about all the possibilities re: GiF not hitting anyone.

Also:

Sephibro wrote:

it generates a paradox and a black hole wipes this game away
If we don't have a RB, why would GiF target among everyone, the restless spirit?
Sephibro
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Sephibro
or the bulletproof
or dake
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
or nobody at all.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
yeah but i don't think gif would have done no action tonight
we were 7-2, we didn't risk lylo nor mylo with that kill and he's very confident about his reads

no, he targeted dake or rb, or he was roleblocked
NoHitter
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Sephibro wrote:

or dake
Oh god... Yeah I apologize for that brain fart xD
bmin11
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I'm sure he didn't shoot Raging Bull AKA our BP. He didn't claim to be shot and BP usually gets notified when he gets shot. Also, it's just less likely then GiF shooting me or Dake anyway.

Assuming we have a mafia RB, that makes them having Ninja + RS, RB, and a Janitor as a possible mafia composition. Does this sounds balanced enough against our line up? I don't have any experience with balancing, so...

I'm not too sure what made the mafia to not Janitor kill the first night, nor the second night. I guess it is a fare assumption for them to expect a Coroner, but outright not using it just because of a possibility seems extreme. Though, claiming Coroner as a mafia while there aren't any Janitor kills is equally (or more) extreme, so this is really a big WIFOM.
Jinxy
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NoHitter wrote:

Mod: What happens if a JK and RB block each other?
Both roleblocks will go through and the Roleblocker gets jailed.

Raging Bull wrote:

@Mod, does hider die if she hides behind scum?
Yes
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Vote Count 3.2
fartownik (1) - Nyquill
Tanzklaue (1) - Chen

Not Voting: Sephibro, Raging Bull, Tanzklaue, NoHitter, fartownik, bmin11

Day ends in around 2 days and 12 hours.
Raging Bull
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I think he was scum reading dake at the end? I wasnt shot. Also what nh said about not jking scum, if there was only one death and gif shot town, im sure he would immediately claim.
Not sure, going to sleep however.
Sephibro
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Sephibro

bmin11 wrote:

Assuming we have a mafia RB, that makes them having Ninja + RS, RB, and a Janitor as a possible mafia composition.
where this come from
bmin11
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bmin11

Jinxy wrote:

End of Day 2 Votecount
rEdo (6) - Raging Bull, bmin11, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter, Sephibro, DakeDekaane
bmin11 (1) - Tanzklaue
DakeDekaane (1) - fartownik
Sephibro (1) - rEdo

Not Voting: Nyquill

"Wha-! R-Reimu? What are you doing!?" Nue shouted out, but was still promptly sealed.

rEdo - Houjuu Nue - Mafia 2-shot Ninja and 2-shot Rolestopper - Sealed D2


It is now Night 2.

Day 3 starts in 1 day.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
oh i forgot about it
Nyquill
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Nyquill
I was about to say, their roleblocker died.

Btw bmin, just to make sure, your role is AUTO activate right
Sephibro
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Sephibro

Nyquill wrote:

I was about to say, their roleblocker died.

Btw bmin, just to make sure, your role is AUTO activate right

bmin11 wrote:

I can use it any night I want and I'll be able to vote the following day.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
rolestopper*
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Well obviously my last post doesn't mean crap.

Raging Bull wrote:

I think he was scum reading dake at the end? I wasnt shot. Also what nh said about not jking scum, if there was only one death and gif shot town, im sure he would immediately claim.
But any thoughts on this post?

And is there usually a janitor with coroner or vice versa? Or sometimes it can be a dud role?
Nyquill
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er, not bmin, tanz
bmin11
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Janitor could exist without a coroner (though, with limited amount of shots for balance reason), but I haven't heard of coroner without janitor-like roles.

Even if GiF claimed, it would still be up to as on rather if we would believe him or not. Though, his vote on rEdo and all will pretty much make him look like a townie no matter what. After all, he was the first one to switch his vote to rEdo.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue

Nyquill wrote:

I was about to say, their roleblocker died.

Btw bmin, just to make sure, your role is AUTO activate right
it is.
Nyquill
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i'm pretty certain that mafia has some method of knowing a coroner is alive then (like nohitter did with censor mafia), and their janitor is limited so has been witholding kills.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
is this game still alive?
NoHitter
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My thoughts about the situation:
After thinking it through, Nyquill is still town. Doublevoter in Ly-Lo would be auto-win, so I don't see why he would claim in the open today when he could use it tomorrow and essentially win.

From the claims, I think only Nyquill can be considered town.

Next we go to that rEdo wagon at the end, I read through the wagon, and I think that those who speedlynched him and switched votes are most likely town as well.
This means that bmin and Sephi are most likely town as well.

I'm not so sure about RB since IIRC he wasn't there when the wagon started to form. Placing a vote on a teammate early on (especially when there was no indication of a wagon) may be a good way of distancing.

I would lynch Tanz/farto->RB in that order.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
I was asleep when the speedlynch happened btw.
Amianki
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Tanzklaue wrote:

is this game still alive?
Everyone except for fartownik has posted in the past 24 hours.

fartownik has been prodded.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue

CalignoBot wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

is this game still alive?
Everyone except for fartownik has posted in the past 24 hours.

fartownik has been prodded.
it was still 17 hours ago that someone posted, there were more active times in this game :P
Jinxy
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"Quite a lull in activity, wonder if they've forgotten that Reimu is very serious this time...”


Vote Count 3.3
fartownik (1) - Nyquill
Tanzklaue (1) - Chen

Not Voting: Sephibro, Raging Bull, Tanzklaue, NoHitter, fartownik, bmin11

Day ends in around 1 day and 12 hours.
Raging Bull
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NoHitter wrote:

My thoughts about the situation:
After thinking it through, Nyquill is still town. Doublevoter in Ly-Lo would be auto-win, so I don't see why he would claim in the open today when he could use it tomorrow and essentially win.

From the claims, I think only Nyquill can be considered town.

Next we go to that rEdo wagon at the end, I read through the wagon, and I think that those who speedlynched him and switched votes are most likely town as well.
This means that bmin and Sephi are most likely town as well.

I'm not so sure about RB since IIRC he wasn't there when the wagon started to form. Placing a vote on a teammate early on (especially when there was no indication of a wagon) may be a good way of distancing.

I would lynch Tanz/farto->RB in that order.
My vote was on him pretty much the whole d2. And idk why would I vote people just because there might be a wagon?
Sephibro
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Raging Bull wrote:

My vote was on him pretty much the whole d2. And idk why would I vote people just because there might be a wagon?
he said that you could have voted him because there WASN'T a wagon on him and you wanted to create distance with your scumpartner
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Because his reason for voting was retarded as shit.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
and what the hell guys, theres only less than 24 hours left. this inactivity isnt going to help anyone.

Vote:NH

If you ask why, please read. I asked for opinions and no one looked nor responded.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
so now

who do you all guys think is scum and why?
Raging Bull
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NH and Tanz/farto.


Tanz for hider shenanigans (lol :DD) and the oddly claimed coroner role without a janitor kill since n1. and farto for being a lurkfack these past few days.
NoHitter
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Vote: Tanz
Raging Bull
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Look, idk who agreed with Sephi about the plurality lynch thing, but where the hell is everyone and their input.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
what?
Sephibro
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Sephibro
oh btw
worst case scenario

we lynch a townie
fartownik didn't fakeclaim, he targets scum with nightaction and dies
scum nk someone else
we lose
Sephibro
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Sephibro
so pick up one of these options

a. lynch farto
b. we NL and organize night actions
Raging Bull
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only night action we have would be JK. Motivate JK and block farto?
Raging Bull
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or shit nvm, same night motivation probably wont work.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
motivation works from the day after i use it
NoHitter
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Sephi: that's the worst case scenario, but if farto were really town he wouldn't risk it.
Sephibro
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so he keeps being unconfirmable in lylo too
please lynch
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Vote: farto
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Vote Count 3.4
fartownik (2) - Nyquill, NoHitter
Tanzklaue (1) - Chen
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull

Not Voting: Sephibro, Tanzklaue, fartownik, bmin11

Day ends in around 12 hours.
Sephibro
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talk farto
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
I pseudovote farto, when he doesn't respond until i go to bed (in like 1-2 hours), I'm gonna vote him.
Jinxy
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End of Day 3 Vote Count
fartownik (2) - Nyquill, NoHitter
Tanzklaue (1) - Chen
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull

Not Voting: Sephibro, Tanzklaue, fartownik, bmin11

=====================================================================

The third day passed quietly. The quietest of all was Hijiri Byakuren, who stopped talking halfway through the day and just started meditating. Eventually, her actions unnerved the group, and they requested her to leave.

"Reimu will probably be here soon. Back me up, won't ya?"

"There is no need, I'm one of her accomplices."

"Huh? You!?" Marisa immediately aimed at Byakuren.

"She is, but she failed me, too. I knew I shouldn't have trusted youkai to resolve matters properly like a human." Reimu's voice spoke out, just as she appeared out of nowhere.

"I'm sorry, but I will not be sealed ever again. I've meditated prior to this, and my abilities are at their peak. I request that you unseal Nue too, after I'm done." With those words, Byakuren charged at Reimu, but both disappeared all of a sudden.

"...Fantasy Nature again..."

...

A while later...

fartownik - Hijiri Byakuren - Mafia Janitor and Role Cop - Sealed D3

"Your first mistake was allowing me control over the domain." Reimu murmured, as she reappeared. However, she instantly vanished again, just before a Master Spark blasted the area she was in.

"Dammit!"

It is now Night 3.

Day 4 starts in 1 day.
Jinxy
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Surprisingly, everyone turned up to the symposium the next day. Did Reimu finally give up?

No one has died.

It is now Day 4. It takes 4 votes to lynch.

Night 4 starts in 4 days.
NoHitter
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Sephi is most likely town due to his pushing of both farto's and rEdo's lynch. (also for another reason)
Nyquill's doublevoter ability + claim + confirmation of claim seems very townie.
bmin looks pretty town due to his earlier claim and wagon on rEdo.
Tanz is confirmed due to the presence of the janitor. (I apologize for misreading you as scum)

Also, I jailed Raging Bull last night, and there was no kill today.
Unless mafia intentionally submitted a no kill or tried to kill RB who claimed to still have BP to waste a kill(both are highly unlikely), we have our scum.

Vote: Raging Bull
Raging Bull
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Wow just as I expected. You submitted no kill to frame me more and make everyone see you as confirmed town. Your play style has changed in this game and now you decided to get aggressive near the end for an easier win.

The only true thing you actually mentioned and I agree on is Tanz being confirmed town.

Vote:NoHitter
Raging Bull
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Not only that, but you seemed so easily swayed to lynch your buddy farto after Sephi said to lynch farto or NL. Also refused to acknowledge how I planted my vote on rEdo the whole fucking day for his extremely scummy as hell vote and just claim it as distancing.
Sephibro
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this is pretty much a 1v1

lynch one then lynch the other one next day if we weren't lucky

SPEEDLYNCH RAGING BULL GOGOGO

vote: Raging Bull
Sephibro
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hitter just curious

what did you get with my motivation?
Sephibro
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Sephibro
there's no reason to hide it at this point
Raging Bull
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Sephibro wrote:

there's no reason to hide it at this point


This game was gay when one scum is fucking afk the entire game and one scum decides to not post in this game and post a shit ton in the other game. What the fuck man. gg town.

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Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Sorry if it's anticlimatic but seriously, I'm not good or anything, but I won't god damn afk to let people play by themselves. Especially farto telling me to play till you win.
Sephibro
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Joined November 2012
Sephibro
:(

yeah sorry about rEdo and farto
they are real kurwas

@everybody: learn to sheep me when i push NL day1 kthx
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