23:12 jonathanlfj: oh yeah did u test my 95bpm 5 min song yet?
23:12 jonathanlfj: xD
23:12 UnitedWeSin: no
23:12 jonathanlfj: oh really
23:12 jonathanlfj: ur the missing link
23:13 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/2Idy1.osu23:13 jonathanlfj: and then update with this
http://puu.sh/2IyYd.zip23:14 jonathanlfj: oh and play with dt is highly recommended or else u might fall asleep xD
23:14 UnitedWeSin: :O
23:14 UnitedWeSin: that's two .osu files
23:14 UnitedWeSin: no osb?
23:14 jonathanlfj: wait wut
23:15 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/2Hh1H23:15 jonathanlfj: my bad xD
23:15 jonathanlfj: replace the .osu with
http://puu.sh/2IyYd23:16 jonathanlfj: remake is making u retry
23:16 jonathanlfj: the irony
23:16 UnitedWeSin: so man ;_;
23:17 jonathanlfj: i think u meant mean lolol
23:17 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/2Iz3X.jpg23:17 UnitedWeSin: rofl
23:17 UnitedWeSin: i ment mad
23:17 jonathanlfj: first time i've seen a map get over 50k plays in 24 hours
23:17 jonathanlfj: this is history
23:17 UnitedWeSin: it's a decent map
23:18 jonathanlfj: i told u dttttt
23:18 UnitedWeSin: dc is for wimps
23:18 UnitedWeSin: dt*
23:20 jonathanlfj: lol
23:20 jonathanlfj: then single tap the streams
23:20 jonathanlfj: i warned u
23:24 UnitedWeSin: rank plz k thx
23:24 jonathanlfj: lol
23:24 UnitedWeSin: dt would destroy that
23:24 jonathanlfj: its more fun with dt i tell u
23:24 UnitedWeSin: neva
23:24 jonathanlfj: the jumps are more fun
23:25 jonathanlfj: and its easier to alternate for streams cause it would be roughly 140bpm
23:27 UnitedWeSin: lol
23:28 jonathanlfj: lol chipmunk voice
23:28 UnitedWeSin: rofl
23:29 UnitedWeSin: not sure why I had trouble reading some of the streams
23:29 jonathanlfj: bpm changes make the clashes sound so awkward
23:29 jonathanlfj: i have a similar concern
23:29 jonathanlfj: thats why im asking players to play around to see if they are sight readable
23:30 jonathanlfj: its most probably because of the variation in note count
23:30 jonathanlfj: for the streams
23:30 jonathanlfj: and tbh under normal speed they are single tappable so its quite easy to do
23:30 jonathanlfj: but then on dt its all abt reaction and music intepretation
23:30 UnitedWeSin: 04:33:363 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -
23:30 jonathanlfj: yes that one
23:30 UnitedWeSin: pretty hard to read imo
23:31 UnitedWeSin: I'd have a circle at 04:33:996 -
23:31 UnitedWeSin: then delete the 04:34:154 (6) -
23:31 UnitedWeSin: and have the stream start on the red tick
23:31 jonathanlfj: the concern is
23:32 jonathanlfj: then the spacing between 04:33:363 (5) - and 04:34:313 (7) - will cause reability issues
23:32 jonathanlfj: since under normal speed this is ar7
23:32 jonathanlfj: so im trying to keep beat spacings between notes consistent
23:33 jonathanlfj: hoe bout move 6 to 04:33:996
23:33 jonathanlfj: there is a sound there too
23:33 jonathanlfj: tbh there is sound like on every tick during the last kiai xD
23:34 UnitedWeSin: yea
23:34 UnitedWeSin: move 6 there
23:34 jonathanlfj: plays better?
23:34 jonathanlfj: cause intuitively 5-note stream makes more sense
23:34 UnitedWeSin: well
23:34 UnitedWeSin: yes
23:34 UnitedWeSin: i don't hear the stream starting until 04:34:313 - tbh
23:34 jonathanlfj: now its a problem of where...
23:35 jonathanlfj: since i dont want to stack and if u realize everything is blanketed perfectly
23:35 UnitedWeSin: you could even have a 1/2 slider at 04:33:996 -
23:35 jonathanlfj: to lead to the next slider?
23:35 UnitedWeSin: you'd probablyhave to change placement on 04:32:095 (2,3,4) -
23:37 UnitedWeSin: or you could have a triplet instead
23:37 UnitedWeSin:
http://puu.sh/2IzAc.png23:38 jonathanlfj: actually im trying this
23:38 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/2IzB0.jpg23:38 UnitedWeSin: lol that could work
23:38 jonathanlfj: except now there is 4 notes after slider
23:39 jonathanlfj: but i guess thats one of the standard stream setup
23:39 UnitedWeSin: yea that's fine
23:40 UnitedWeSin: maybe NC at 00:39:647 (1) -
23:40 UnitedWeSin: 00:39:647 (1) -
23:40 UnitedWeSin: f
23:40 UnitedWeSin: 00:39:647 (4) -
23:41 jonathanlfj: to indicate snap difference?
23:41 UnitedWeSin: well yes the 1/3 is super suprising on first try imo
23:41 jonathanlfj: 01:24:710 (4) - this one also?
23:41 UnitedWeSin: likely if you want consistency
23:42 jonathanlfj: sure then
23:42 UnitedWeSin: although that one is a lot nicer since it starts on the white tick
23:42 UnitedWeSin: so the NC isn't as necessary
23:42 jonathanlfj: well for consistency sake i changed it
23:42 jonathanlfj: im most worried abt the last kiai due to all the notes b4 and after sliders
23:43 jonathanlfj: they represent the music fine but im a bit iffy abt their playability
23:43 jonathanlfj: 05:17:871 (2,3,4,5) - does this one make sense
23:44 UnitedWeSin: yea that's fine
23:45 UnitedWeSin: 05:17:080 (1) - why end on blue tick?
23:45 jonathanlfj: im following the drums
23:46 jonathanlfj: i cound add a note at 05:17:713 (2) - to make it another stream xD
23:48 jonathanlfj: 05:17:871 (2,3,4) - actually how bout just move these one tick ahead?
23:48 UnitedWeSin: yea note at 05:18:030 - maybe stacked on the slider works nice
23:49 jonathanlfj: im thinking connect 05:17:080 (1,2,3,4) - and make it jump to 05:18:347 (5) -
23:49 UnitedWeSin: oh waiat wtf
23:49 jonathanlfj: to follow what i did at 05:09:477 (1,2,3,4) - and stuff
23:50 UnitedWeSin: osu is being weird 1 sec
23:51 UnitedWeSin: yea
23:51 UnitedWeSin: 05:17:871 (2) - delete that
23:51 UnitedWeSin: or
23:51 UnitedWeSin: you mean have the 3 note stream after the 1 instead?
23:52 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/2IzXk.jpg23:52 jonathanlfj: like this
23:53 UnitedWeSin: hmm
23:53 jonathanlfj: i just realized
23:53 jonathanlfj: 03:33:806 (3,4,5,6,7) -
23:54 jonathanlfj: my consistency is destroyed
23:54 UnitedWeSin: ?
23:54 jonathanlfj: the spacing xD
23:55 UnitedWeSin: idk i feel like the stream at 05:17:713 - doesn't fit
23:55 UnitedWeSin: and just 2 singles would be better
23:55 UnitedWeSin: 05:17:713 -
23:55 UnitedWeSin: grr
23:55 UnitedWeSin:
http://puu.sh/2IA3h.png23:56 UnitedWeSin: lol
23:57 jonathanlfj: let me analyse the patterns
00:01 jonathanlfj: i got it
00:01 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/2IAbY.jpg00:01 jonathanlfj: slidersssss
00:01 jonathanlfj: saves the day
00:01 UnitedWeSin:
00:01 UnitedWeSin: i thought you wouldn't like a slider there
00:01 jonathanlfj: the power of ctrl+cv and then flippping
00:01 UnitedWeSin: lol
00:01 UnitedWeSin: rofl
00:01 jonathanlfj: the previous combo was a note jump so slider would do well here
00:02 jonathanlfj: anything else wirth mentioning?
00:03 jonathanlfj: i think this is worth kds post this when i submit map xD
00:03 UnitedWeSin: oh you submitted?
00:03 jonathanlfj: nope but when i do
00:03 UnitedWeSin: well I'd have to play again xD
00:03 jonathanlfj: remember the bonus you receive for the new system when ur the first modder?
00:03 UnitedWeSin: which I shall
00:04 UnitedWeSin: i do not
00:06 jonathanlfj: star rating went from 4.40 to 4.39
00:06 jonathanlfj: gg
00:06 UnitedWeSin: 02:07:481 (5,6,7) - hm
00:07 jonathanlfj: that part is guitar
00:07 jonathanlfj: there are similar occurences of this in other parts so i think its fine
00:07 UnitedWeSin: i don't think it's a problem if you add a note at 02:07:322 -
00:08 UnitedWeSin: it's impossible to tell that it's mapped to the guitar in play
00:08 jonathanlfj: there is no music ther xD
00:08 UnitedWeSin: the guitar is there
00:08 jonathanlfj: that wiggly sound?
00:08 UnitedWeSin: honestly it plays alright, it's just that the gap makes you have to think
00:09 UnitedWeSin: because it starts on the blue tick
00:09 jonathanlfj: well based on previous gameplay its not hard to see that this is the end of a "slider" starting at 02:07:006
00:10 jonathanlfj: i remember another one of these
00:10 jonathanlfj: 03:34:915 (4,5,6) -
00:10 UnitedWeSin: yes but that is mapped to the drums
00:10 UnitedWeSin: which are totally audible
00:11 jonathanlfj: here comes the questions
00:11 jonathanlfj: would the player know these if they are first time playing
00:11 UnitedWeSin: the reason why 02:07:481 (5,6,7) - plays weird is because it's not really following the rhythm,
00:11 UnitedWeSin: 02:03:204 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - is following the rhythm
00:11 UnitedWeSin: the drums/bass
00:12 UnitedWeSin: but there's nothing to support the 02:07:481 (5,6,7) -
00:12 UnitedWeSin: if you want to follow the guitar then you should start following it at 02:07:006 -
00:12 UnitedWeSin: remove the repeat from the 02:06:372 (4) -
00:12 jonathanlfj: i see ur point
00:12 jonathanlfj: let me think of something
00:14 UnitedWeSin: i see some sort of slider at 02:07:006 - with a NC
00:14 UnitedWeSin: maybe a 1/4 repeater
00:14 UnitedWeSin: or a stream starting there
00:16 jonathanlfj:
http://puu.sh/2IAz5.jpg00:16 jonathanlfj: this
00:17 UnitedWeSin: yea that's fine
00:17 UnitedWeSin: i'd NC on the 5 but that's just me
00:17 jonathanlfj: yeah trying not to spam nc unless there are huge streams
00:17 jonathanlfj: 10 seems fine for me
00:19 UnitedWeSin: only other concern
00:19 UnitedWeSin: 02:36:309 (2,3,4,5) -
00:20 UnitedWeSin: you start following this stream after it starts
00:21 jonathanlfj: ?02:36:150 (2) - there is a pause here
00:21 UnitedWeSin: i'd start following at 02:35:517 -
00:21 UnitedWeSin: try like
00:21 UnitedWeSin:
http://puu.sh/2IAGg.png00:22 UnitedWeSin: oh i guess there is a pause
00:22 jonathanlfj: yeah i tried to map to the background as the transition to the stream later
00:24 UnitedWeSin: `http://puu.sh/2IAKa.png
00:24 UnitedWeSin: could work
00:24 UnitedWeSin: have the slider represent the pause
00:25 jonathanlfj: see thats the thing im trying to avoid ><
00:25 jonathanlfj: slider-note-slider stream
00:25 jonathanlfj: i can never do them myself so i dont want to force others to do it in my map xD
00:29 UnitedWeSin: hmm
00:29 UnitedWeSin: idk
00:29 UnitedWeSin: maybe it's fine
00:31 UnitedWeSin: 03:38:875 (3,4) - change to 1/4 slider?
00:32 jonathanlfj: sure
00:32 jonathanlfj: adds some variety
00:33 UnitedWeSin: 03:49:012 (2) - i prefer it a (416,128)
00:33 UnitedWeSin: probly just me
00:34 UnitedWeSin: more spacing is better and leads nicer into the 3 imo
00:34 jonathanlfj: oh u break my ds
00:34 UnitedWeSin: jumps >:)
00:34 jonathanlfj: this is a uber slow section
00:34 jonathanlfj: lol
00:34 jonathanlfj: but let me see
00:34 UnitedWeSin: 04:01:049 (1) - :O
00:35 jonathanlfj: its NCed lol
00:35 UnitedWeSin:
00:35 jonathanlfj: i usually jump on the stuff b4 NC
00:35 UnitedWeSin: 04:17:206 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - honestly you could make each aNC
00:36 jonathanlfj: NC spam?
00:36 UnitedWeSin: yessssssssss
00:36 UnitedWeSin: it has a bad name, but I think it could be cool there
00:36 UnitedWeSin: and maybe read better
00:36 jonathanlfj: insta hp recovery for hr ok
00:36 UnitedWeSin: pff hr
00:36 UnitedWeSin: right now you hit the first one and it's like
00:36 UnitedWeSin: oh
00:36 UnitedWeSin: yea
00:36 jonathanlfj: oh no one is going to hr this except mayve the first 3 on the score board
00:37 jonathanlfj: with hd hr dt
00:37 jonathanlfj: if that day comes
00:37 jonathanlfj: how2 rank 5 min map
00:37 UnitedWeSin: gonna do hard and normal?
00:37 jonathanlfj: no just normal xD
00:37 UnitedWeSin: ah
00:37 jonathanlfj: something around 2.5 to 3 stars
00:38 jonathanlfj: who would play an easy for this map like seriously
00:38 UnitedWeSin: :<
00:38 jonathanlfj: insta 4mod fc
00:38 jonathanlfj: and yeah if u didnt realize this is hard xD
00:40 jonathanlfj: dont get fooled by all streams and stuff this is single tappable
00:40 jonathanlfj: oh wow another fantastic future ranked
00:40 jonathanlfj: i dont even
00:41 UnitedWeSin: oh kewl
00:41 UnitedWeSin:
00:41 UnitedWeSin: omg 3 ranks in like the last hour wtf
00:41 UnitedWeSin: flask speedrankin
00:41 UnitedWeSin: all day
00:41 jonathanlfj: bats want to exercise their power b4 new system arrives
00:42 jonathanlfj: cause in new system they can only unrank xD
00:42 UnitedWeSin: 05:02:666 (3,4) - change to 1/4 slider?
00:42 jonathanlfj: that one i want to keep because 05:02:824 (4) - is whistled
00:42 jonathanlfj: so want player to click
00:43 UnitedWeSin: you could change the 05:02:507 (2,3) -
00:43 jonathanlfj: oh u and ur love of 1/4 sliders
00:43 jonathanlfj: i dont like them in middle of streams cause 100 = no perfect = fffffffff
00:43 UnitedWeSin: there just so many 3 note streams after slider in this section ;_;
00:44 jonathanlfj: thats for consistency sake lol
00:44 UnitedWeSin: you could change one to a 1/4 repeat slider :>
00:44 UnitedWeSin: like 05:10:110 (2,3,4) - that one
00:44 jonathanlfj: i thought abt it
00:44 jonathanlfj: but then the last note has a clap
00:44 UnitedWeSin: -.-
00:44 jonathanlfj: yeah i like players clicking for key notes
00:44 UnitedWeSin: well the only 3 note stream here that doesn't annoy me is 05:04:725 (3,4,5) -
00:45 UnitedWeSin: lol
00:45 jonathanlfj: oh wait i looked at the wrong one
00:45 jonathanlfj: 05:09:477 (1,2,3,4) - this is just random im probably swaping for a slider xD
00:46 UnitedWeSin: ? o.o
00:46 jonathanlfj: i dnno why its there lol
00:47 UnitedWeSin: ok 1 more thing
00:48 UnitedWeSin: `02:22:687 -
00:48 UnitedWeSin: unfitting rhythm imo
00:48 jonathanlfj: oh snap forgot a finish there xD
00:48 UnitedWeSin:
http://puu.sh/2IBfB.png00:48 UnitedWeSin: the stacked triplet doesn't fit the music at all imo
00:49 jonathanlfj: sure i will change it