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bmin11

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bmin11 2012-11-14T16:21:36+00:00

Katty Pie wrote:
Hi~

General

• BGs should have sixe 1024x768(800x600) plz resize it~ Fixed
• Delete combo color 4 bcz it identical with color 2~ Denied. I don't want two purples to be placed side by side.

BMix

OD -2 Rhythms are straight fairly forward and spinners are easily doable, so I will keep the current Overall Difficulty.

00:00:241(1,4) - overlap~ put note 1 in other place for better game Approach Rate is high enough to nullify this overlap and I like the flow of this note right now.
00:05:592(1,3) - ^ ^
00:02:673(3,4) - better replace on slide, sounds better I'll fix it
00:07:862(3,4) - ^ ^
00:17:105(4,1) - very big spacing for jump, stack it a bit I tried to find the alternative, but the only optimal solution was to remap the pattern and I don't think it's that big of a problem to worth it.
00:18:240(3,4) - replace on slider~ It's better follow the music I'll fix it
00:18:727(2,3,4,5) - try make slider forms more interesting (straight sliders very boring) no they aren't :<
00:52:457(3,4,5,6) - ^ ^
00:23:592(1) - put this note in centre bcz after spin very difficult play notes on 1/2 That's a challenge + I don't like havng a note under the hitburst imo
00:27:322 - remove clap The clap in that part is entirely created by my own.
00:41:754 - 00:51:268 this part sounds boring without hitsounds try add claps : I would rather emphasize the music itself since that's its trademark
00:42:186(3)
00:42:835(6)
00:43:268(8,9)
00:43:916(11,12) e.t.c Put claps on note 3,6,8,9,11,12 sounds fine~
01:23:268 - 01:43:159 - ^ ^
00:51:484 - here better put slider 1/1 I'm following the drum since it's an introduction to the stream.
01:44:024 - end kiai time here~ I'm leaving it on for the osu! main menu. I would rather have the kiai end as the music changes.

Bmax

the same on Bmix~ Make slider forms more intersting~ Add claps on 00:41:754 - 00:51:268 and 01:23:268 - 01:43:159 parts~ I'll fix that slider (not the shape part you modded)

Bmed

Distance spacing very big for normal diff~ you should put 0.8-0.9 and correct all spacing~ I can see your point here, but this is an early warning to the player that the map isn't going to be the typical Normal. I'll be introducing harder rhythms in this difficulty.

00:18:727 - I think better if you replace this note on double slider~ Bcz 9 notes without sliders it a little difficult for normal~ I'll fix it.
00:24:078 - add note here I think that's just unnecessarly hard for the player. I would rather have some challenges rhythm wise.
01:14:835(5,6,7,8,1) - 5 stack notes very difficult for normal~ unstack it or replace some notes on sliders I wanted to introduce 5 notes + stack before they face any harder difficulty.
01:17:430(6,7,8,9,1) - ^ ^
01:20:024(6,7,8,9,1) - ^ ^

Bmin

00:44:349(1) - I suggest remove 2 repeats and add slider 2/1 bcz many repeats can confused beginners~ They should have learnt to be patient once they passed 00:26:511 (2) - this
00:56:997(4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 9 notes for beginners very difficult to play~ plz replace some notes on sliders I actually had a new player to try this part after you have mentioned it. The player got all 300s. I'll test more, but until then, denied.
01:12:240 - add note here, sounds better and more playable in this place I'll fix it
01:25:862(1) - same on 00:44:349 Same reason
01:33:565 - 01:43:376 - replace all double notes on sliders~ BCz for beginners it's hell >.< I'll fix it

Good luck~

Thanks for the mod, Katty!

Birdy

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Birdy 2012-11-15T17:05:38+00:00

[BMin]
00:41:754 (1,2,3,4) - Not sure if you used polygon circles, but looks like you didn't
00:47:592 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:55:051 (1,2,3,4) - Avoid spacing change
01:29:105 (1,2,3,4) - Same as the first one

[BMed]
00:02:673 (5) - New combo
00:05:754 (4) - New combo

That's all, nice song and mapset~

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-11-15T17:13:16+00:00

Static Noise Bird wrote:
[BMin]
00:41:754 (1,2,3,4) - Not sure if you used polygon circles, but looks like you didn't I didn't and I will fix it
00:47:592 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
00:55:051 (1,2,3,4) - Avoid spacing change I would rather take the design over confusion. I doubt people will get that confused over this (in fact, most players I have tested had no problems)
01:29:105 (1,2,3,4) - Same as the first one I'll fix it

[BMed]
00:02:673 (5) - New combo Denied
00:05:754 (4) - New combo Fixed (that was actually pretty dumb of me lol Thanks)

That's all, nice song and mapset~

I'l fix all the notable changes once the contest is over. It's under judging phase right now, so I can't make the fix if it going to make a difference.

Thanks for the mod!

Last edited by bmin11 2012-11-25T22:03:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-11-16T15:04:30+00:00

Katty Pie wrote:
OD -2

After some conversation with a player, I'm fixing this mod. Thanks again, Katty Pie!

Reisen Udongein

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Reisen Udongein 2012-11-17T13:37:39+00:00

랭크로!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kawayi Rika

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Kawayi Rika 2012-11-25T21:40:46+00:00

Hi ~ bmin11 ~

Mod time for my Queue ~

Red : Must be fixed
Pink : Should be fixed
Purple : Just suggestions

[General]

How about add some finish on downbeats? really fits with music.
01:44:024 - I guess you forgot end kiai time to here.

[BMax]

HP+1 or 2 is better.

[BMed]

00:25:538 (1) - Add new combo,follow with parttern.

[BMin]

01:36:673 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - I highly suggest change these to slider,1/3 rhythm is really hard for beginner.

That's all ~ Really cool map and song ~

Call me back recheck ~ when you are ready ~

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-11-25T22:16:00+00:00

I'll be fixing all, but I'll have to consider with Finishes. A lot of people have modded to add more, so I'll try to make a use of it.

Thanks!

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Gloria Guard 2012-12-11T06:27:18+00:00

Star ~

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-12-11T06:48:30+00:00

감사합니다!

Cyclohexane

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Cyclohexane 2012-12-14T12:03:25+00:00

Hey BMin, sorry for being so late with the mod (1 month).

Alright, so first of all, I tried your BMix difficulty and I have to give you props right away: It's awesome. But let's get to the mod.

[General]
-I understand the whole difficulty name gimmick, but I have to ask if you're fine using DDRX2 diff settings (which I don't know, for the record, I don't play DDR) for consistency and whatnot. This is completely optional, but I wanted to point it out.
-There's a white combo color in there. Not a huge deal especially since he background is very dark, but keep in mind that there are better options. Also, this same color is present twice in your custom color setup. I guess that was intended, but in case you didn't know, you can choose the color of the next combo selecting the note you want the new combo on and clicking the little arrow next to the New Combo button.
-This background for harder diffs has been used several times on maps like ALBIDA and THE LAST STRIKER, only with different colors. Maybe find another one? Up to you. I like the theme with the colors, by the way.
-I'd recommend Tick Rate 2.

[BMix]
00:46:078 (9,10,11,12) - This flows kind of awkardly, in my opinion. I think for this whole combo it would be better to just leave the accelerated spacing and remove the rotation, you'd have very good flow throughout the whole combo.
01:01:862 (3,4,5) - I think this would be better, and sends out the player right into the next combo, giving nice flow:

SPOILER

That's pretty much it. As I said, this is very fun, very esthetic, has a lot of flow to it, and just all around very enjoyable. Bravo.

[BMax]
00:04:132 (2) - I suggest you make this have the same angle as the previous slider, mainly for esthetic reasons
00:10:943 (2) - I think a Ctrl-G on this slider should work quite well (don't forget to do the same for the next sliders if you decide to change that)
00:14:511 (2) - Same as before here. These are sliders so you can have larger spacing than usual on these and still be playable (like the time you used accelerated spacing on these sliders on BMax, now that was great)
00:20:673 (6,7) - Kinda weird to have these so close to the slider. You're building up speed with accelerated spacing, and it just falls flat here. I say increase the spacing and give it a little bit of an angle. x:408 y:372 looks just fine for this, IMO.
00:41:754 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - These 1/3 are not immediately obvious to the player, especially since you're stacking them at the beginning. Maybe just use a slider with a kick instead of these three circles. It will kinda break the pattern but you get great readability (the next ones can stay since the player is locked into the 1/3 rhythm thanks to the slider)
01:01:700 (1) - I recommend this instead (better spacing and also for reasons quoted in the BMix diff)

SPOILER

01:38:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I really don't like this ending very much, it feels very dull. I'm sure you can find something else to do with it.

[BMed]
00:04:132 (1,2) - I'd suggest making this into a 1/1 slider and keeping the (2) because the rhythm is kinda awkward.
00:09:322 (1,2) - Same, of course.
00:14:511 (1,2) - Once again.
01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - This looks very ugly. I'm sure you can arrange this to make a better shape (don't focus on keeping distance snap on at all times, such a small difference shouldn't matter)

[BMin]
Overall, this has quite awkward rhythms for an Easy map. I know that on such a song, it can't really be helped, but try to guide the player as much as possible.
00:02:349 - Add a circle here to guide the player. The previous pattern you have makes it unclear when to hit the note.
00:07:538 - Same here.
00:08:349 (5) - I would make this into a 2-measure slider to guide the player into the next one. Circles work also.
00:12:727 - Once again.
00:59:916 (1) - Why not making this a spinner? It fits, and you had one here in BMed.
01:34:078 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Once again this feels quite dull. Since by now the player knows what to expect of the song, I'd suggest turning these into 3/4 sliders with a returnarrow, so that they flow nicely.

Although the map is rather standard in the easier difficulties, you managed to make a very good Hard and Insane. I'm definitely going to enjoy this once it's ranked. Good luck!

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-12-14T19:02:31+00:00

Mr Color wrote:
Hey BMin, sorry for being so late with the mod (1 month).

Alright, so first of all, I tried your BMix difficulty and I have to give you props right away: It's awesome. But let's get to the mod.

[General]
-I understand the whole difficulty name gimmick, but I have to ask if you're fine using DDRX2 diff settings (which I don't know, for the record, I don't play DDR) for consistency and whatnot. This is completely optional, but I wanted to point it out.

I understand having to name difficulties to the mapper is unnecessary for non-guest diffs, but I wanted an introduction on how each names would represent in the future guest diffs of mine.

-There's a white combo color in there. Not a huge deal especially since he background is very dark, but keep in mind that there are better options. Also, this same color is present twice in your custom color setup. I guess that was intended, but in case you didn't know, you can choose the color of the next combo selecting the note you want the new combo on and clicking the little arrow next to the New Combo button.

I never knew how to use that feature. Thanks for teaching me. I'll definitely make it into use for my future difficulties.

-This background for harder diffs has been used several times on maps like ALBIDA and THE LAST STRIKER, only with different colors. Maybe find another one? Up to you. I like the theme with the colors, by the way.

Thanks, and I should have saw that coming. I'll look for a better BG for harder difficulties.

-I'd recommend Tick Rate 2.

This is awesome! Will fix.

[BMix]
00:46:078 (9,10,11,12) - This flows kind of awkardly, in my opinion. I think for this whole combo it would be better to just leave the accelerated spacing and remove the rotation, you'd have very good flow throughout the whole combo.

Agree and will fix.

01:01:862 (3,4,5) - I think this would be better, and sends out the player right into the next combo, giving nice flow:

The idea is tempting, but I don't want to mute those notes with a slider. I would like them to be hit.

[BMax]
00:04:132 (2) - I suggest you make this have the same angle as the previous slider, mainly for esthetic reasons

I think this is rather a subjective problem. For example, I would like it this way then having an identical slider.

00:10:943 (2) - I think a Ctrl-G on this slider should work quite well (don't forget to do the same for the next sliders if you decide to change that)

Agree. It seems like I'm throwing in a jump quiet early, but I think they can get it over with (well, hopefully).

00:14:511 (2) - Same as before here. These are sliders so you can have larger spacing than usual on these and still be playable (like the time you used accelerated spacing on these sliders on BMax, now that was great)

Not making an identical slider like above. Nevermind, I accelerated the spacing a bit. Thanks.

00:20:673 (6,7) - Kinda weird to have these so close to the slider. You're building up speed with accelerated spacing, and it just falls flat here. I say increase the spacing and give it a little bit of an angle. x:408 y:372 looks just fine for this, IMO.

Agree and will fix.

00:41:754 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - These 1/3 are not immediately obvious to the player, especially since you're stacking them at the beginning. Maybe just use a slider with a kick instead of these three circles. It will kinda break the pattern but you get great readability (the next ones can stay since the player is locked into the 1/3 rhythm thanks to the slider)

Awesome. I'll fix that.

01:01:700 (1) - I recommend this instead (better spacing and also for reasons quoted in the BMix diff)

Still tempting, but declined for the same reason.

01:38:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I really don't like this ending very much, it feels very dull. I'm sure you can find something else to do with it.

SPOILER
◎◎◎◎◎◎
◎◎◎◎◎◎
◎◎◎◎◎◎

I know... but I want to keep that ^ theme for the last part. I'll change around the order so it becomes a jump and see how that goes.

[BMed]
00:04:132 (1,2) - I'd suggest making this into a 1/1 slider and keeping the (2) because the rhythm is kinda awkward.
00:09:322 (1,2) - Same, of course.
00:14:511 (1,2) - Once again.
01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - This looks very ugly. I'm sure you can arrange this to make a better shape (don't focus on keeping distance snap on at all times, such a small difference shouldn't matter)

All agreed. Will fix it.

[BMin]
Overall, this has quite awkward rhythms for an Easy map. I know that on such a song, it can't really be helped, but try to guide the player as much as possible.
00:02:349 - Add a circle here to guide the player. The previous pattern you have makes it unclear when to hit the note.
00:07:538 - Same here.

I agree to both. Will fix it.

00:08:349 (5) - I would make this into a 2-measure slider to guide the player into the next one. Circles work also.

I'm half and half for this, but feels like I'm not giving them a second to practice reading the approach circle.

00:12:727 - Once again.

Agree.

00:59:916 (1) - Why not making this a spinner? It fits, and you had one here in BMed.

I didn't want to surprise them with a short spinner.

01:34:078 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Once again this feels quite dull. Since by now the player knows what to expect of the song, I'd suggest turning these into 3/4 sliders with a returnarrow, so that they flow nicely.

I'm planing on fixing this part involving no 1/3s to hit.

Although the map is rather standard in the easier difficulties, you managed to make a very good Hard and Insane. I'm definitely going to enjoy this once it's ranked. Good luck!

Thanks for the mod, Color! I'll fix this as soon as the mapping tournament is over.

EDIT: holy shit this is graveyarded

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-12-15T05:47:10+00:00

I'm actually not too sure if I should fix it to tick 2 anymore. The more I hear, the less appealing it became. I'll talk with more mappers.

About Kitty Pie's slider suggestions, I could not make a good use of it. Blame my mapping skill.

Nichiyouki

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Nichiyouki 2012-12-22T14:41:22+00:00

Hi, bmin

My mod from your request in my modding queue (Sorry for mod delay)

Red = Unrankable
Biue = You should modified
Black = My suggestion

General

Fine

BMin

00:00:241 (1) - I heard cymbal here in the song. Add finish here
00:02:673 (4,5) - There are 3/2 beat. You can change to a slider.

BMed

The spacing of notes are many different. I suggest that consider those.
00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff.
00:09:332 (7) - You can notice NC in 00:04:132, so please add NC here.
00:10:943 (1) - Move to up 1 grid be better.
00:25:538 (1) - Add NC here, since this note follows a spinner.

BMax

00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff.
00:20:997 (7) - Add NC here by listen to the rhythm of song.
01:10:132 (6) - Move to up 2 grids?

BMix

00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff.
00:20:997 (6) - Add NC here by same as Hard diff.

That's all that I can find them, and hope that my mod will be useful for you.

Good luck~

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-12-22T16:32:46+00:00

Nichiyouki wrote:
BMin
00:00:241 (1) - I heard cymbal here in the song. Add finish here I'm a disbeliever in starting with Finish hitsound, but I guess it's fine. Fixed.
00:02:673 (4,5) - There are 3/2 beat. You can change to a slider. Denied. I want to introduce the idea of the spacing, since this is pretty vital for even easier diffs nowadays.

BMed
The spacing of notes are many different. I suggest that consider those. Most are 1.10x and even if there are changes, they are mostly between 1/1 beats, so I think it'll be fine.
00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff. Fixed.
00:09:332 (7) - You can notice NC in 00:04:132, so please add NC here. Fixed.
00:10:943 (1) - Move to up 1 grid be better. Fixed.
00:25:538 (1) - Add NC here, since this note follows a spinner. Modded by Kawayi Rika. Thanks though.

BMax
00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff. Fixed.
00:20:997 (7) - Add NC here by listen to the rhythm of song. Denied. The appearance is ugly and the spinner does it's job for that change, so I don't think that note deserves a whole new combo for itself.
01:10:132 (6) - Move to up 2 grids? Fixed (that was rather stupid of me).

BMix
00:00:241 (1) - Same as Easy diff. Fixed.
00:20:997 (6) - Add NC here by same as Hard diff. Denied for the same reason.

Thanks for the mod, Nichi!

Kawayi Rika

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Kawayi Rika 2012-12-23T10:08:33+00:00

OK ~ Rechecked and nothing issue ~

Good job, Here you go :3

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-12-23T20:38:51+00:00

감사합니다 리카님!

Niva

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Niva 2012-12-24T10:00:26+00:00

Hi bmin11~ (Reisen showed me the map long ago actually orz xD)
Just checking the bubble:

[General]

-> Don't forget to add 'DDR' in tags, orz :3
-> On Min and Med, perhaps try to use silent/quieter slidertick at the 00:41:754 and 01:23:268 part? I think this song uses Polymeter, the beats are 4/4 but the synth are playing in 3/4 - that's why slidertick every 1/1 doesn't really work here~
-> A lot of this song's closed cymbals (as example, 00:23:592) actually fits with soft hitfinish (use Sampleset: Normal Addition: Soft on this one) xD

[BMin]

00:00:565 (2) - Definitely can be reworked - try this one:

384,72,565,2,0,B|319:44|250:77|250:77|187:109|120:74,1,270

00:52:457 (2,3,4,5) - Umm, why don't you stack (5) to previous (6) regardless of the spacing, it's much neater that way~ - It can be achieved with this arrangement though:
```
16,296,52457,1,8,0:0:0
0,136,53105,1,8,0:0:0
165,124,53754,1,8,0:0:0
176,287,54403,1,8,0:0:0
```
01:43:376 (1) - Use repeating 1/1 slider instead for the ending? It lands on more beat though (and gives the better feeling from the music)

[BMed]

00:04:943 (3) - Just a suggestion here, put the endpoint in ~x:326 y:34 so this slider will point to your next (1) instead?
00:25:538 (1,2) - Hmm, stacking actually ruins symmetry a bit here, considering the song's flow I recommend a manual-stack like this instead (plays dramatic as well!~)
```
273,60,25538,5,0,0:0:0
264,74,25862,1,0,0:0:0
```
00:46:943 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This symmetry here - I think you can somewhat play with a little bit wider spacing so (4,5) is centered for beauty, I don't think it will be hard to catch~
01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - Uhm, (5,6)'s jump - is it intentional? If it is, I prefer something like this though so (5) and (8) will feel connected to each other:
```
496,310,82619,1,2,0:0:0
466,263,82781,1,0,0:0:0
418,235,82943,1,2,0:0:0
363,231,83105,1,2,0:0:0
312,254,83268,5,0,0:0:0
```
01:23:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ...if you followed suggestion above, then with the current (1)'s placement, you can arrange these eight into a neat pentagon (:

[BMax]

00:00:241 (1,2) - Stack this in the center of (3,4,5)'s circle instead? Aside from beautifying, it will also avoid overlap between (2) and (5)'s comboburst~
00:19:700 (4) - Uhm, I suppose this should be on ~x:418 y:262? o.o (if you do this don't forget to adjust (6,7) more to the right)
00:26:997 (5) - ...personally a slider wave works better here I think (avoids clustering as well)
00:59:916 (1,2) - Will be more fun imo if you can split this into four sliders arranging a fan :3
01:07:700 (1) - Uhm, why don't you just stack this to the previous 01:06:727 (2) instead...
01:12:565 (2) - Put in ~x:332 y:212, then CTRL+G for great circular movement here?
01:43:376 (4) - Move higher to ~y:110, and:
01:43:700 (6,7,8,9,10) - I get your idea to make a symmetry here, but I much prefer manual-stacking downward like this - it's more readable and gives more impression towards the ending imo (:
```
256,272,103700,1,0,0:0:0
255,282,103781,1,0,0:0:0
255,292,103862,1,0,0:0:0
255,302,103943,1,0,0:0:0
255,312,104024,1,0,0:0:0
```

[BMix]

00:13:538 (1) - Remove the repeat and add a note elsewhere (perhaps stacked under slider's end) on 00:14:186? A jump like this plays much better than your current anti-jump imo...
00:20:997 (6) - CTRL+J? The spinner looks good this way imo because of the two opposite combobursts (:
00:25:538 (3,4) - Minor stuff here, put in ~x:259 y:294 so they'll look correct in play mode (due to stacking's nature)?
00:29:916 (4,5,6,1) - I think if you can arrange these four into a sudden diamond jump it'll play better and give more energy :3
01:12:240 (1,2,3,4) - If possible I'd stack (3) to your previous (4) here, perhaps with this diamond-like arrangement:
```
344,284,72240,5,2,0:0:0
124,58,72403,1,2,0:0:0
145,241,72565,1,2,0:0:0
328,134,72727,1,2,0:0:0
```
01:43:943 (6,7) - Move these two upward so the end will be v-shaped stream? Looks better this way imo xD

One other thing worth mentioning is you can add a short kiai on the last note though, it's a REALLY big note and it really fits (:

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-12-25T23:45:19+00:00

Niva wrote:
[General]

-> Don't forget to add 'DDR' in tags, orz :3

Fixed and checked if there aren't any I missed.

-> On Min and Med, perhaps try to use silent/quieter slidertick at the 00:41:754 and 01:23:268 part? I think this song uses Polymeter, the beats are 4/4 but the synth are playing in 3/4 - that's why slidertick every 1/1 doesn't really work here~

Agreed and Fixed

-> A lot of this song's closed cymbals (as example, 00:23:592) actually fits with soft hitfinish (use Sampleset: Normal Addition: Soft on this one) xD

Interesting, but it feels like it's disrupting the closed cymbal imo.

[BMin]

00:00:565 (2) - Definitely can be reworked

Thanks, and fixed.

00:52:457 (2,3,4,5) - Umm, why don't you stack (5) to previous (6) regardless of the spacing, it's much neater that way~

Looks much better. Thanks, and fixed.

01:43:376 (1) - Use repeating 1/1 slider instead for the ending? It lands on more beat though (and gives the better feeling from the music)

I guess it would be pointless to give a difference with BMed like this. Fixed.
[BMed]

00:04:943 (3) - Just a suggestion here, put the endpoint in ~x:326 y:34 so this slider will point to your next (1) instead?

Fixed.

00:25:538 (1,2) - Hmm, stacking actually ruins symmetry a bit here, considering the song's flow I recommend a manual-stack like this instead (plays dramatic as well!~)

I love the effect, but I'm also equally worried that people might find it confusing if I overlap 1/1 notes. I think I'll give it a shot. Thanks, and Fixed.

00:46:943 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This symmetry here - I think you can somewhat play with a little bit wider spacing so (4,5) is centered for beauty, I don't think it will be hard to catch~

Fixed.

01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - Uhm, (5,6)'s jump - is it intentional? If it is, I prefer something like this though so (5) and (8) will feel connected to each other:

Ya, that looks way better. Thanks.

01:23:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ...if you followed suggestion above, then with the current (1)'s placement, you can arrange these eight into a neat pentagon (:

That was exactly my thought when I fisr saw it lol Fixed.
[BMax]

00:00:241 (1,2) - Stack this in the center of (3,4,5)'s circle instead? Aside from beautifying, it will also avoid overlap between (2) and (5)'s comboburst~

Fixed in a different way

00:19:700 (4) - Uhm, I suppose this should be on ~x:418 y:262? o.o (if you do this don't forget to adjust (6,7) more to the right)

Fixed

00:26:997 (5) - ...personally a slider wave works better here I think (avoids clustering as well)

Couldn't work on that. Sorry.

00:59:916 (1,2) - Will be more fun imo if you can split this into four sliders arranging a fan :3

Fixed

01:07:700 (1) - Uhm, why don't you just stack this to the previous 01:06:727 (2) instead...

Didn't want to give too big of a change in angle (that was the smallest angle I could get).

01:12:565 (2) - Put in ~x:332 y:212, then CTRL+G for great circular movement here?

Interesting, but I would rather keep the movement like 01:09:646 (3,4,5,6) - with a change in spacing. Also, I would rather keep those pattern separated.

01:43:376 (4) - Move higher to ~y:110, and:
01:43:700 (6,7,8,9,10) - I get your idea to make a symmetry here, but I much prefer manual-stacking downward like this - it's more readable and gives more impression towards the ending imo (:

Both are fixed. Thanks.
[BMix]

00:13:538 (1) - Remove the repeat and add a note elsewhere (perhaps stacked under slider's end) on 00:14:186? A jump like this plays much better than your current anti-jump imo...

Fixed the pattern instead.

00:20:997 (6) - CTRL+J? The spinner looks good this way imo because of the two opposite combobursts (:

I wanted to focus on the note and minimize the movement. Tempting though.

00:25:538 (3,4) - Minor stuff here, put in ~x:259 y:294 so they'll look correct in play mode (due to stacking's nature)?

Fixed.

00:29:916 (4,5,6,1) - I think if you can arrange these four into a sudden diamond jump it'll play better and give more energy :3

I'll contact you in-game, because I couldn't figure out how you wanted this to be fixed (the diamond part).

01:12:240 (1,2,3,4) - If possible I'd stack (3) to your previous (4) here, perhaps with this diamond-like arrangement:

I think the jump is way to drastic. Fixed so it stacks.

01:43:943 (6,7) - Move these two upward so the end will be v-shaped stream? Looks better this way imo xD

I think I would just keep it clean and simple.
One other thing worth mentioning is you can add a short kiai on the last note though, it's a REALLY big note and it really fits (:

I'll keep it as it is. It would be like having fire works for shutting a massive door closed. Thanks though.

Thanks for your mod, Niva!

EDIT: Additional thanks to Katty Pie since there was a mod pointed by him/her as well

Last edited by bmin11 2012-12-26T00:33:31+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Muya

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Muya 2012-12-26T00:09:32+00:00

you should remove bms from tags
this isnt BMS song

bmin11

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bmin11 2012-12-26T00:19:37+00:00

Removed. Thanks, Muya.

EDIT: 4000th post for me weeee

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Niva 2012-12-26T14:26:45+00:00

Rechecking, just pointing some things here (don't kudosu) :

-> Umm, you can't make both slidertick and sliderslide silent actually (imo you don't need to silent the sliderslide3, if you want it to be quieter it's fine though as long as not silent)
-> BMix : 01:23:105 (10) missing whistle

Only that (:

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EDIT : Okay, I'm not going to recheck now by your request o.o

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bmin11 2012-12-26T17:35:25+00:00

All fixed. Thanks again, Niva.

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Sure 2012-12-27T08:19:02+00:00

[General]
Remove audio stream from the video.

[BMix]

OD8? I think high OD is quite suitable for this music and diff.

01:44:024 (7) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music.

This diff is so sexy.

[BMax]
00:25:538 (2,3) - Since you made manual stacking in BMix diff, thus they need to be like them in BMix imo.
00:28:132 (7) - Maybe add NC? to be consistent with 00:30:727 (1)
00:52:943 (3,4) - They are not symmetry. 00:52:457 (2,5) - Because you've symmetrized them.
01:44:024 (7) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music.

[BMed]
00:25:538 (1,2,1) - I read Niva's post. Well, I'd rather vertical stacking in this case. http://puu.sh/1FQMY
01:44:024 (3) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music.

[BMin]
01:43:376 (1) - Needs finish at end to emphasize cymbal in the music.

That's all. Call me back when you ready.

EDIT : fixed icon >w<

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bmin11 2012-12-27T20:44:49+00:00

ykcarrot wrote:
[General]
Remove audio stream from the video. Fixed.

[BMix]
OD8? I think high OD is quite suitable for this music and diff.
01:44:024 (7) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music.

Both are fixed.

This diff is so sexy. >_<

[BMax]
00:25:538 (2,3) - Since you made manual stacking in BMix diff, thus they need to be like them in BMix imo. Fixed.
00:28:132 (7) - Maybe add NC? to be consistent with 00:30:727 (1) 그 슬라이더들은 점프다보니 크게 이질감이 느껴질것 같진 않아요.
00:52:943 (3,4) - They are not symmetry. 00:52:457 (2,5) - Because you've symmetrized them. Fixed.
01:44:024 (7) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music. Fixed.

[BMed]
00:25:538 (1,2,1) - I read Niva's post. Well, I'd rather vertical stacking in this case. http://puu.sh/1FQMY 니바쪽이 더 맘에 드네요 (대칭이 문제긴 하지만 서로 다른 패턴으로 취급할려구요).
01:44:024 (3) - Needs finish to emphasize cymbal in the music. Fixed.

[BMin]
01:43:376 (1) - Needs finish at end to emphasize cymbal in the music. Fixed.

That's all. Call me back when you ready.

EDIT : fixed icon >w<

감사합니다!

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bmin11 2013-01-04T19:46:20+00:00

Removed the ~~corruptified~~ corrupted video file

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Shino 2013-01-10T03:41:26+00:00

Notice:

Your guest taiko request got accepted and you will get it in Jan 12th.

최대한 빨리 만들겠음.

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bmin11 2013-01-10T05:48:36+00:00

감사합니다

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Shino 2013-01-14T23:00:47+00:00

Filename: TAG underground - POSSESSION (bmin11) [ShinoTaiko].osu

...늦어서 미안!

ShinoTaiko

osu file format v11

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bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-15T00:30:17+00:00

업로드 완료!

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2013-01-15T02:42:56+00:00

랭크는 언제쯤!!

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-15T03:01:40+00:00

태고 난이도 하나 더 구하고 문프레님의 오스 마니아 난이도가 올때 랭크 시도할겁니다.

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-01-16T18:38:52+00:00

For me the taiko chart is a bit easy (First time seen FC)
Well.....it is fun, but as a DDR Boss song I think it is better to get harder?
Would you mind if I post my difficulty here as well? =D

EDIT: here is my osu map
http://www.mediafire.com/?77esu1wl0k5ejxw
I use scroll effect to imitate the slow down and speed up in DDR, too bad osu isn't like taikojiro =/

The ending is just simply DDDDKKKKDDDDKKKK so it should be easy to read
And I am able to FC it so I think it shouldn't be that hard?

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-17T02:19:42+00:00

Mimineko wrote:
For me the taiko chart is a bit easy (First time seen FC)
Well.....it is fun, but as a DDR Boss song I think it is better to get harder?
Would you mind if I post my difficulty here as well? =D

Ya, that was my thought as well and since we need another taiko difficulty, I thought we could make this difficulty a bit easier. Your's will be the boss difficulty (if this is the right name hm) .

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-17T02:36:51+00:00

I just tested your difficulty (ran it on auto). Personally, I couldn't tell a big different in the challenge department compare to Shino's difficulty. Probably because I would fail both difficulties anyway, but that's my thought.

The last part felt odd. Maybe you should try DDDDKKDDDDKKDDDDKKDDDDKK. This way, the pattern will repeat along with the song. I guess this would pull down the difficulty, but in my opinion, the last pattern should change.

Oh and update your difficulty before you edit. I changed your tag and added a BG

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-01-17T02:49:39+00:00

bmin11 wrote:
I just tested your difficulty (ran it on auto). Personally, I couldn't tell a big different in the challenge department compare to Shino's difficulty. Probably because I would fail both difficulties anyway, but that's my thought.

The last part felt odd. Maybe you should try DDDDKKDDDDKKDDDDKKDDDDKK. This way, the pattern will repeat along with the song. I guess this would pull down the difficulty, but in my opinion, the last pattern should change.

Oh and update your difficulty before you edit. I changed your tag and added a BG

o....ok~ You can use DDDDKKDDDDKK if you want
But the main thing is to mix big note and small note so it looks more confusing

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-17T02:58:00+00:00

But the main thing is to mix big note and small note so it looks more confusing

That I have no idea how to work with lol

would it be okay if you fix it? I'm not even sure if my suggestion is the best option as well.

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-01-17T03:26:49+00:00

Is this ok?
http://www.mediafire.com/?dbmccsas6c7i9eb

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-17T04:47:47+00:00

Looks great. Also, 01:43:395 (672) - [url=http://puu.sh/1OKtC]Maybe we could make this a bit longer like this[/url

P.S. I uploaded your diff by the way]

Decipher

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Decipher 2013-01-22T12:32:32+00:00

short mod... orz

[Shino]
00:59:106 (16,17) - I think they're supposed to be kd
01:00:242 (3) - k?

[nekoMimi]
I think there are so many copy&pastes? hehehe
00:02:692 (16,48) - k?
00:13:070 (85, 127) - k?
00:19:557 (137) - k
00:41:773 ~ 00:51:287 - remove finishes from / add finishes to all notes
01:23:287 ~ 01:33:449 - same as above.
01:33:665 ~ end - don't put big notes in the middle of stream, it's a little hard to press..

Mimineko wrote:
to mix big note and small note so it looks more confusing

but we should make the map still enjoyable to play too, without overmapping it~

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-01-22T14:20:39+00:00

Light Usagi wrote:
short mod... orz

[Shino]
00:59:106 (16,17) - I think they're supposed to be kd
01:00:242 (3) - k?

[nekoMimi]
I think there are so many copy&pastes? hehehe
00:02:692 (16,48) - k?
00:13:070 (85, 127) - k?
00:19:557 (137) - k
00:41:773 ~ 00:51:287 - remove finishes from / add finishes to all notes
01:23:287 ~ 01:33:449 - same as above.
01:33:665 ~ end - don't put big notes in the middle of stream, it's a little hard to press..

Mimineko wrote:
to mix big note and small note so it looks more confusing
but we should make the map still enjoyable to play too, without overmapping it~

well......if the original taiko do copy and paste also, I think I should do it so it will become more structural
I don't think there is much different by changing those k
it is necessary to add those scroll to hide the slow down part or else the note will be overlap and look bad
well.....for me is playable, Metal Hawk BGM1 have big notes in the middle as well so I don't think is a big problem

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-22T20:19:26+00:00

no changes I guess?

Coro

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Coro 2013-01-27T02:25:47+00:00

Taiko mod~
All are suggestions unless in red.

[ShinoTaiko]
Disable countdown
00:25:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - add finish? I think it sounds better.

[Mimineko Oni]
Use same offset as Shino's diff please, it's currently off-beat.
Disable countdown and letterboxing
00:23:449 (141) - add finish
01:34:097 (601) - no mid-stream finishes please, only as first or last note. (I know Taiko does it but osu doesn't allow it.) Remove finish (and for all like this).
I like the SV multiplier changes though~

good luck with rank~

Big and Busty

Big and Busty 2013-01-27T11:19:53+00:00

Shinotaiko: OD8 is too much, why not 5?

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-01-27T14:10:18+00:00

CoroQuetz wrote:
[Mimineko Oni]
Use same offset as Shino's diff please, it's currently off-beat.
Disable countdown and letterboxing
00:23:449 (141) - add finish
01:34:097 (601) - no mid-stream finishes please, only as first or last note. (I know Taiko does it but osu doesn't allow it.) Remove finish (and for all like this).
I like the SV multiplier changes though~

good luck with rank~

erm......what does it mean by add finish......?

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-27T14:17:35+00:00

He means big don and big kat

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-01-27T18:46:00+00:00

Updated:
http://www.mediafire.com/?pzign27nnmdu23d

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-27T19:33:41+00:00

Updated

Shino

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Shino 2013-01-29T10:15:21+00:00

Light Usagi wrote:
00:59:106 (16,17) - I think they're supposed to be kd
01:00:242 (3) - k?

CoroQuetz wrote:
00:25:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - add finish? I think it sounds better.

1. 현재 보면확인이 불가능한 관계로 테스트해봤을때 좀 더 어울린다고 생각하는 쪽으로 바꿀 것.
2. 카운트다운 제외, OD는 5로.

5일동안 사지방 서버가 망해서 접속이 불가능했음. 미안.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-29T11:05:37+00:00

어차피 랭크 될려면 아직 멀었어요. 쉬엄쉬엄하세요.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-01-29T16:34:08+00:00

00:59:106 (16,17) - I think they're supposed to be kd

이것하고 카운트다운, OD만 고치기로 했습니다. 개인적으로 두번째건 별로고 피니쉬 관련된건 시노님이 직접 고쳐보셔야 할것 같아요. 저도 솔직히 피니쉬는 좀 들어가주는게 좋다고 생각해요, 다만 모든 노트에 피니쉬를 넣기에는 좀...

-Kazu-

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-Kazu- 2013-02-10T17:50:42+00:00

Taiko Mod as requested via Forum PM.
I hope this will help =A= Let's Begin.

Mimineko Oni

00:41:727 (254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298) - This pattern doesnt need to be too repetitive,if you hear the song with attention,in the song there are some changes in the notes. i recommend "d d k d k k d k k d k d d k k k d k k d d d k k d k k k d k d k k k k d d k k k d k k d k" (yes,making that took me so long XD)

00:59:916 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67) - This part sounds like a only one beat,like if was "ddddddddddddddddd"...

01:23:268 (252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299) - as i said,this doesnt need to be so repetitive,since the song has changes in his pattern... (i think if you deny this and the other long pattern i will explode,seriously lol) "d k k k d k k k d d k d d k k k d k d k d d d k d d k d d k d k k k d d d k k d d k k d d d k k"

ok.
ShinoTaiko
01:36:240 (1,2,3,4,5) - "dkddk"
01:38:835 (1,2,3,4,5) - " dddkk"
since 01:41:430 - to 01:43:376 - doesnt sound like a stream,so maybe you has to follow the song with "d k k d d k K D K K" (1/3 beat and one space between each note). (I think this should be there,but if you dont like dont worry,is only a suggestion).

Not to much to do in ShinoTaiko. Great diff ^^
Good job making both diffs,they are so great.

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-02-11T05:32:30+00:00

1)Ya sure I can change that
2)ddddd(ry would be just too simple, I think I will just leave it there
3)That is the same pattern and same melody as before.....even in DDR
I think I will keep those 1/3 same as 1), but when 1/6 is introduced I will add some other middle notes in

EDIT:
1)It actually sounds really weird when I use that pattern......I am not sure am I the only one who felt that, probably because of mixing of Big and small notes
3)Same as above

So.....should I use all Big/Small notes to use that pattern?
Since Osu taiko have weird sound for big notes......in origianl Taiko big and small sounds the same

Cyclohexane

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Cyclohexane 2013-02-14T18:24:51+00:00

Hey, I'm gonna go mod the Taiko diffs since bmin asked nicely and I really like this set.

[Mimineko Oni]

00:10:619 - (onwards) This part is a bit boring, I'd say. Repeating d ddk d ddk d ddk d ddk fits, but I feel like it could be better. I suggest not placing beats so systematically and listening to the melody, this will lead your hitsounding (you did this in later parts of the map and it works well)
00:26:186 (146, 178) - I don't quite get what you're mapping to here. Is it the drums, is it the melody? Neither seem to match. I'd suggest remaking this following either with hitsounds and beat placement.
00:41:754 (254, 298) - Once again this feels a bit boring, it's just d d k k with finishes everywhere. I know this part is not the easiest/most fun to map, but I think you can pull off something better here. Try listening to the melody for your hitsounding, it should help.
01:12:889 (451, 547) - This part feels really overmapped, it looks like you tried to place as many notes to indicate a difficulty progression. Problem here is that it gets a bit tiring on the arms and the streams aren't necessarily all that fun (doesn't help that they are repeated so much). My advice on this one is once again to listen to the melody and let it guide your hitsounding and beat placement. Try to look at what other Taiko (Shino's one is a good start) difficulties did here. It should help a lot.

Other than that this is a pretty nice Oni, I liked the chorus part with the kkks, it's quite dynamic.

[ShinoTaiko]
00:23:430 - Beats on 00:23:430 -, 00:23:592 - and 00:24:078 -. You chose to map to the drums for this part so you should really map it all.
00:25:538 onwards - This section feels empty. Can you hear the drums in the background? I suggest you map that part according to them. They give a lot of possibilities in the way of hitsounding/beat placement, so you could really come off with something nice here. You actually do it later at 00:52:132 - and it's awesome.
01:12:889 onwards - This part is really fun. It's very dynamic and the difficulty progression is nice. Well done.
01:41:430 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1) - This last stream is a bit of a last note nightmare, it's harder than anything else in the map. It's fun, but you might want to tone it down to keep the difficulty throughout the map consistent (plus missing this late into the map is really frustrating I gotta say, haha)

Overall this is really fun, I really liked it.

Once again bmin you're going to need a Muzukashii in order to go for ranking but I'm sure you can get one. Good luck!

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-02-14T20:49:18+00:00

Mr Color wrote:
Hey, I'm gonna go mod the Taiko diffs since bmin asked nicely and I really like this set.

[Mimineko Oni]

00:10:619 - (onwards) This part is a bit boring, I'd say. Repeating d ddk d ddk d ddk d ddk fits, but I feel like it could be better. I suggest not placing beats so systematically and listening to the melody, this will lead your hitsounding (you did this in later parts of the map and it works well)
00:26:186 (146, 178) - I don't quite get what you're mapping to here. Is it the drums, is it the melody? Neither seem to match. I'd suggest remaking this following either with hitsounds and beat placement.
00:41:754 (254, 298) - Once again this feels a bit boring, it's just d d k k with finishes everywhere. I know this part is not the easiest/most fun to map, but I think you can pull off something better here. Try listening to the melody for your hitsounding, it should help.
01:12:889 (451, 547) - This part feels really overmapped, it looks like you tried to place as many notes to indicate a difficulty progression. Problem here is that it gets a bit tiring on the arms and the streams aren't necessarily all that fun (doesn't help that they are repeated so much). My advice on this one is once again to listen to the melody and let it guide your hitsounding and beat placement. Try to look at what other Taiko (Shino's one is a good start) difficulties did here. It should help a lot.

Other than that this is a pretty nice Oni, I liked the chorus part with the kkks, it's quite dynamic.

[ShinoTaiko]
00:23:430 - Beats on 00:23:430 -, 00:23:592 - and 00:24:078 -. You chose to map to the drums for this part so you should really map it all.
00:25:538 onwards - This section feels empty. Can you hear the drums in the background? I suggest you map that part according to them. They give a lot of possibilities in the way of hitsounding/beat placement, so you could really come off with something nice here. You actually do it later at 00:52:132 - and it's awesome.
01:12:889 onwards - This part is really fun. It's very dynamic and the difficulty progression is nice. Well done.
01:41:430 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1) - This last stream is a bit of a last note nightmare, it's harder than anything else in the map. It's fun, but you might want to tone it down to keep the difficulty throughout the map consistent (plus missing this late into the map is really frustrating I gotta say, haha)

Overall this is really fun, I really liked it.

Once again bmin you're going to need a Muzukashii in order to go for ranking but I'm sure you can get one. Good luck!

Well.....this time I had change everthing
http://www.mediafire.com/?vkakcxvaraaak4a

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-02-14T22:21:06+00:00

looks fantastic. Updated!

0gre_old

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0gre_old 2013-02-15T19:43:39+00:00

[MOD REQUEST (Taiko only)]

SIGNs

d = don
k = katsu
D = big done
K = big katsu
add
delete
/ = exchange to

[Mimineko Oni]

MOD information

00:26:186 to 00:31:376
this part has a bit too much notes you may can delete
00:26:430 (145,156,167)

00:33:646 (205,245)
I think these can d / k because
it seems to have a strong back k sound
and you also have it as a k for eg. 01:07:376

00:51:484 (308)
This slider stops at this point looks better

Set KIAI which is same as other osu maps or another taiko map

It is highly recommended to take of changes of speed if is for a rank

01:12:889 to 01:22:457
far too much notes take of some notes out
specially 01:20:673 (509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530,531)

01:12:484
you may can link two 3-combes by adding something

01:33:646
from here you'd better change to something
it is really hard to play and unusual

It may need some changes here
but the rhythem and sound picking is good ~

[ShinoTaiko]

MOD information

00:15:808 to 00:20:997
I think little bit too much compare to before with similar melody
or could be balance by adding more notes at
00:00:241 to 00:15:484

00:23:430 and 00:23:592 00:24:078
can not add any at these points?

I have almost nothing to say~
It is good map~
may can tidy up last section a bit

It may not be helpful

Thanks for seeing!

BeatofIke

Beatmap Nominator

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BeatofIke 2013-02-18T21:20:46+00:00

Your taiko difficulties are well-mapped! I'm going to give this map a star.

PS: You should contact a MAT/BAT for a Bubble Repair! Good Luck!

Lundlerol

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Lundlerol 2013-02-19T08:07:50+00:00

Since my pupil's 0gre is performing mod, I also do mod.

Let's....

SPOILER

d = don
k = kat
D = Finish d
K = Finish k

[General]
Kiai should be consistent throughout difficulties of your mapset (especially since it is shown on the main menu). If you have a guest difficulty from another mapper that uses different kiai, then it's fine as long as it still makes sense.
This is Official Ranking Submission Rules and Guidelines.
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria

Only Taiko of Mimineko does not have kiai time.
Please add a concentration time to the same portion as other diffs.

[Mimineko Oni]
00:19:700 (55) - Why does it use slider? 　It is unnecessary. Let's arrange by notes. Deletion recommendation.
00:19:700 - d
00:20:024 (1) - k
00:20:186 (1) - d
00:20:511 - d
00:26:673 (147,148,149,150) - delete. Please try rearrangement after deleting. > dk kd > Changed>ddkkd
00:27:970 (9,10,11,12) - ^ > kd dd>Changed>d ddkdk
00:28:700 - delete.
00:41:105 - this slider deletion recommendation.
00:41:105 - D
00:41:268 (1) - k
00:41:430 - d
00:41:592 - k
00:41:754 - ~ 00:52:132 - 　 *
The acceleration and slowdown in these middles are unnecessary.
It is because these are all unified at the same tempo.
Therefore, probably, it should delete.
00:51:484 (146) - Please reput the portion of the last of this slider on the position of the following.
00:51:970 -
01:20:673 (247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269) -
I think that this stream should rearrange notes since it is not suitable for sound.
01:20:673 (247) - 　　This is made into the starting point.
How about rearranging as follows?
dkk k d dkk kdk d kkkdk
01:22:619 (2) - deletion recommendation.
01:22:619 (1) - This is made into the starting point.
How about rearranging as follows?
ddk d k
01:23:268 (1) - ~ 01:44:024 - This is the same reason as a *mark.

Taiko Rules - You may not break these ever

Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream.
At the end, finish streams may allowed under following pattern constellations:
xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Taiko_Ranking_Criteria

01:33:646 (581) - Since this is violation of a rule, it should remove Finish.　 Therefore, you should change this to d or k.

01:34:943 (590) - 　^
01:36:241 (599) - 　^
01:37:538 (608) - 　^
01:38:835 (617) - 　^
01:40:132 (629) - 　^
01:41:430 (641) - 　^

01:42:619 (652) - delete.

01:43:376 (656) - 　Please reput the portion of the last of this slider on the position of the following.
01:43:857 -

Finished~.
It will not be able to Ranked, as long as there is a portion which is carrying out violation of a rule, even if it can get a bubble in the state of now.

Last edited by Lundlerol 2013-02-19T14:47:23+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-02-19T11:17:06+00:00

I have some question to ask

Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream.
At the end, finish streams may allowed under following pattern constellations:
xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX

1/4 or above, that refer to 1/4,1/6 and so on isn't it?
So 1/3 can include finish notes...... is it?

Lundlerol

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Lundlerol 2013-02-19T12:18:34+00:00

Mimineko wrote:
I have some question to ask
Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream.
At the end, finish streams may allowed under following pattern constellations:
xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX
1/4 or above, that refer to 1/4,1/6 and so on isn't it?
So 1/3 can include finish notes...... is it?

It contains 1/3 .
And many players dislike it.
Don't you still change?

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-02-19T12:32:07+00:00

Lundlerol wrote:
It contains 1/3 .
And many players dislike it.
Don't you still change?

Those people will hate Metal Hawk then, lol (POSSESSION DDR chart as well)
will make change around weekend

Lundlerol

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Joined May 2011

Lundlerol 2013-02-19T13:49:05+00:00

Mimineko wrote:
I have some question to ask
Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream.
At the end, finish streams may allowed under following pattern constellations:
xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX
1/4 or above, that refer to 1/4,1/6 and so on isn't it?
So 1/3 can include finish notes...... is it?

Although it forgets to say
However it may see this, it is 1/3.
It is not 1/6.

SPOILER

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-02-19T14:25:20+00:00

Lundlerol wrote:
Although it forgets to say
However it may see this, it is 1/3.
It is not 1/6.

SPOILER

They don't allow 1/4 or 1/6 big and small notes mix cause it is too hard to play it in Taiko
I can't remember any Taiko offical chart that include structure like that....(o wait, 大打音)
But Taiko have offical chart that include mixing of big small notes like Metal Hawk
Well at least for me 1/3 stream with bit notes is possible to play it......
But I am going to change it to all small notes

Lundlerol

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Lundlerol 2013-02-19T14:30:56+00:00

Furthermore, it forgets to say.
ShinoTaiko is also the same.

SPOILER

[Mimineko Oni]
01:33:646 (581,582,583,584,585,586,587) -
01:34:943 (590,591,592,593,594,595,596) -
01:36:241 (599,600,601,602,603,604,605) -
01:37:538 (608,609,610,611,612,613,614) -
01:38:835 (617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649,650,651,652,653) -

[ShinoTaiko]
01:25:213 (10,11,12) -
01:27:807 (10,11,12) -
01:30:402 (10,11,12) -
01:32:996 (10,11,12) -
01:33:646 (1,2,3) -
01:34:295 (5,6,7) -
01:35:592 (12,13,14) -
01:36:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:37:537 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) -
01:38:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1) -

Streams
For the majority of maps, only 1/1, 1/2 or 1/4 beat note streams should be used. 1/3 and 1/6 should be added only when there's a similiar beat in the music.https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Taiko_Ranking_Criteria

I think that these arrangement of these two diff is not united with sound.
This part thinks that only the sound of a simple substance can be heard.
These seem to use stream forcibly.
Therefore, these think that they are against a rule.
And 1/3 and 1/6 are special.
Fundamentally, it does not use.

It summarizes having happened this time.
Two +(CreaterMap)diff do not follow a rule.
It is following three point

SPOILER

[Guidelines]
Kiai should be consistent throughout difficulties of your mapset (especially since it is shown on the main menu). If you have a guest difficulty from another mapper that uses different kiai, then it's fine as long as it still makes sense.
[Finish notes]
Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream.
At the end, finish streams may allowed under following pattern constellations:
xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX
[Streams]
For the majority of maps, only 1/1, 1/2 or 1/4 beat note streams should be used. 1/3 and 1/6 should be added only when there's a similiar beat in the music.
Avoid using 1/8 streams by any circumstance.

Last edited by Lundlerol 2013-02-19T14:48:56+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-02-19T14:44:17+00:00

Lundlerol wrote:
Furthermore, it forgets to say.
ShinoTaiko is also the same.

SPOILER
[Mimineko Oni]
01:33:646 (581,582,583,584,585,586,587) -
01:34:943 (590,591,592,593,594,595,596) -
01:36:241 (599,600,601,602,603,604,605) -
01:37:538 (608,609,610,611,612,613,614) -
01:38:835 (617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649,650,651,652,653) -

[ShinoTaiko]
01:25:213 (10,11,12) -
01:27:807 (10,11,12) -
01:30:402 (10,11,12) -
01:32:996 (10,11,12) -
01:33:646 (1,2,3) -
01:34:295 (5,6,7) -
01:35:592 (12,13,14) -
01:36:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
01:37:537 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) -
01:38:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,1) -

Streams
For the majority of maps, only 1/1, 1/2 or 1/4 beat note streams should be used. 1/3 and 1/6 should be added only when there's a similiar beat in the music.https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/73281

I think that these arrangement of these two diff is not united with sound.
This part thinks that only the sound of a simple substance can be heard.
These seem to use stream forcibly.
Therefore, these think that they are against a rule.
And 1/3 and 1/6 are special.
Fundamentally, it does not use.

It summarizes having happened this time.
Two +(CreaterMap)diff do not follow a rule.
It is following three point
SPOILER
[Guidelines]
Kiai should be consistent throughout difficulties of your mapset (especially since it is shown on the main menu). If you have a guest difficulty from another mapper that uses different kiai, then it's fine as long as it still makes sense.
[Finish notes]
Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream.
At the end, finish streams may allowed under following pattern constellations:
xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX
[Streams]
For the majority of maps, only 1/1, 1/2 or 1/4 beat note streams should be used. 1/3 and 1/6 should be added only when there's a similiar beat in the music.
Avoid using 1/8 streams by any circumstance.

I believe you never see the DDR chart before

It doesn't match the sound? If it doesn't match, than I think the composer itself is crazy enough to put those notes (Well I admit that the chart is crazy, but those notes match with the music)
If you put 1/4 notes it will be weirder
Following the official is always my......hum....like obsession?
creating a map that isn't like official is such a big depress for a DDR player

Lundlerol

651 posts

Joined May 2011

Lundlerol 2013-02-19T15:26:35+00:00

Mimineko wrote:
Lundlerol wrote:
Although it forgets to say
However it may see this, it is 1/3.
It is not 1/6.

SPOILER
They don't allow 1/4 or 1/6 big and small notes mix cause it is too hard to play it in Taiko
I can't remember any Taiko offical chart that include structure like that....(o wait, 大打音)
But Taiko have offical chart that include mixing of big small notes like Metal Hawk
Well at least for me 1/3 stream with bit notes is possible to play it......
But I am going to change it to all small notes

offical chart??
what do you mean?

osu!Taiko completely differs from the taiko no tatsujin.
Since there is a Taiko rule of osu!, you should follow it.
Probably, Ranked will be impossible when it is not made.

Mimineko_old

935 posts

Joined February 2011

Mimineko_old 2013-02-19T15:58:36+00:00

Changes fixed:
http://www.mediafire.com/?su4ojbhn5wzthz9

well basically I made it more simplier

Lundlerol

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Lundlerol 2013-02-19T18:09:16+00:00

:O

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-02-19T19:57:24+00:00

Okay, first of all, finishes are allowed at the beginning or at the end of the stream those are below 1/4 (and 1/3 is below 1/4).

Second of all, the stream info you have cited is a guideline: http://puu.sh/25cgu This is not a rule and is only a recommendation. The map usage of 1/3 is absolutely justifiable, since the music is playing on 1/3. If not anything, it would be unrankable to not map it with 1/3.

Ofcourse, the kiai is broken, so I'll fix that myself.

P.S.
[Mimineko Oni]
01:43:376 (656) - The end of this drum roll should be on 1/4. The music plays on 1/4 at the end, not 1/3

P.S. 2
[Mimineko Oni]
01:40:132 (629) - This finish is in the middle of the stream, which is unrankable (I thought we had this discussion before)
01:41:430 (641) - This finish is in the middle of the stream, which is unrankable

Last edited by bmin11 2013-02-19T20:22:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Yuzeyun

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Yuzeyun 2013-02-19T20:22:05+00:00

Mimi, I played the whole map right now, everything plays fine but not the 1/3 notes at the end. As a relatively good big note hitter I don't find the ending big notes in the 1/3 streams that good. Calculating it, this is basically 185 1/3, or 138.75 1/4 (While Metal Hawk, if you talk about BGM 1, is 130 1/3 or 97.5 1/4, which is way different, therefore not making a strong proof to keep it. I played that chart too.)

By the way : 00:51:484 (308) - I don't think this ends on a 1/3 note, but more on the next beat (where the next note starts), so could you please extend to the next 1/2 (extend by 1/6) ?

No kudo needed for these, thanks.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-02-19T20:25:24+00:00

_Gezo_ wrote:
00:51:484 (308) - I don't think this ends on a 1/3 note, but more on the next beat (where the next note starts), so could you please extend to the next 1/2 (extend by 1/6) ?

I second this as well. If you find it complicating to fix this on your editing program, I can always give you a hand.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-02-24T03:00:15+00:00

Updated [Mimineko Oni]

Shino

1,319 posts

Joined April 2010

Shino 2013-02-24T06:25:12+00:00

Fixing mine.

For Lundlerol:
1/3 beats are fit with this song. You can't say like these cause you just feel the song and 1/3(1/6) beats do not match.

It contains 1/3 .
And many players dislike it.
Don't you still change?

1/3 and 1/6 are special.
Fundamentally, it does not use.

And most of taiko mappers usually create taiko following sounds and flows in the song. I believe you are also that type of mapper.

Shino

1,319 posts

Joined April 2010

Shino 2013-02-24T06:47:41+00:00

Too... much... mods...!
File: http://puu.sh/27sjC

Mods

Light Usagi wrote:
00:59:106 (16,17) - I think they're supposed to be kd
01:00:242 (3) - k?

All fixed by bmin11. Truly acceptable one.

CoroQuetz wrote:
00:25:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - add finish? I think it sounds better.

Remapped this part. I thought making all finish was big note spamming.

kazukisinx wrote:
01:36:240 (1,2,3,4,5) - "dkddk"
01:38:835 (1,2,3,4,5) - " dddkk"
since 01:41:430 - to 01:43:376 - doesnt sound like a stream,so maybe you has to follow the song with "d k k d d k K D K K" (1/3 beat and one space between each note). (I think this should be there,but if you dont like dont worry,is only a suggestion).

01:36:240 = "kkd d" match with 01:33:646
01:38:835 = "kdd d" ^
01:41:430 = Overmapped one. Remapped.

0gre wrote:
00:15:808 to 00:20:997
I think little bit too much compare to before with similar melody
or could be balance by adding more notes at
00:00:241 to 00:15:484

00:23:430 and 00:23:592 00:24:078
can not add any at these points?

00:15:808 = Removed some notes.
00:23:430 = Added finish.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-02-24T11:09:01+00:00

Updated

airshobo-n

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airshobo-n 2013-02-25T07:22:42+00:00

i like this song and map

Yuzeyun

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Yuzeyun 2013-02-26T00:38:09+00:00

Nothing much to say about Mimi's Oni, only few things here and there :

The speedchanges (HS changes) are a bit awkward, and becomes easily confusing at their slowest part. The mapping is not to criticize, though.
01:38:835 (617 ~ 653) - This part is definitely hard to read because of the SV changes. I suggest you to cut out the stream a bit while conserving the main rhythm, if you want to keep the SV changes.
01:43:699 (650,651,652,653,654) - I prefer kkkkd (or kkk D) to fit the background drumming.

That's all I found, a pretty fun map for me, just needs some polishing !

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-02-26T05:08:18+00:00

Updated

And about Mimi's Kiai, I'm not fixing those because of the reason below

Yuzeyun

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Yuzeyun 2013-02-26T15:52:13+00:00

I wasn't talking about the kiai itself, but the parts where the scrolling speed decreases to (I think) 0.5x and goes back to 1.0x (the first one) or 1.6x (the last one). The kiai in themselves are okay.

Mimineko_old

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Mimineko_old 2013-02-26T16:29:18+00:00

_Gezo_ wrote:
I wasn't talking about the kiai itself, but the parts where the scrolling speed decreases to (I think) 0.5x and goes back to 1.0x (the first one) or 1.6x (the last one). The kiai in themselves are okay.

Ya, I change it to 0.6 and 1.4

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-02-26T23:16:14+00:00

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was talking about the other previous kiai mods (Lundlerol)

B-1B

179 posts

Joined January 2011

B-1B 2013-02-28T18:46:07+00:00

이런 초고퀼맵엔 아까뒀던 스타로 러쉬해야 제맛

Cuvelia

282 posts

Joined November 2011

Cuvelia 2013-03-09T02:35:53+00:00

no kds.

[

Mimineko Muzukashii]

HP Drain 4~5 , OD 4~5
　
Silder tick rate : 1
　
BPM change ... Necessity?
plz all delete.

so hard , Muzukashii...?

[

Mimineko Oni]

HP Drain 5~6 , OD 5~6
　
Silder tick rate : 1
　
add a Kiai time.

I cannot do modding...

MoonFragrance

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MoonFragrance 2013-04-02T13:59:05+00:00

http://www.mediafire.com/?lbm4psu3vypnpfx
맹글었습니다..!!
늦어서 죄송해요 ㅇ<-<....

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-04-02T22:22:05+00:00

업로드 완료!

근데 난이도에 문프레님 이름이 안들어갔는데 난이도 이름을 어떻게 바꿔드리면 좋을까요?

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2013-04-05T16:22:01+00:00

ManiaFragrance? (runs

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-04-05T18:48:54+00:00

수정했습니다ㅋ

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-04-07T15:51:01+00:00

Cuvelia wrote:
no kds.

[ Mimineko Muzukashii]
HP Drain 4~5 , OD 4~5
　
Silder tick rate : 1
　
BPM change ... Necessity?
plz all delete.

so hard , Muzukashii...?
[ Mimineko Oni]
HP Drain 5~6 , OD 5~6
　
Silder tick rate : 1
　
add a Kiai time.
I cannot do modding...

Forgot to mention that we updated accordingly to this mod. Though, I don't know the very detail since Mimineko has edited.

Dark Fang

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Dark Fang 2013-04-07T16:21:35+00:00

시노님 태고에 프리뷰타임 바꿔주셔야 할거 같은데..

xxbidiao

450 posts

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xxbidiao 2013-04-08T00:46:57+00:00

Some suggestions on osu!mania difficulties:

[o!m difficult]

00:28:781 (28781|4) - My advice is to change this 3535353535... to random keys like 1726354635..., for a hard difficulty 121212 style may makes the song inconsistently hard. Also, there are 2 parts of the song which share the same style(Another is at 00:59:916 (59916|4) - ) You may consider making one of them different from other to increase variety.
01:23:268 (83268|3) - For this part you may consider the sound height in. For example, instead of the beginning few note groups presenting like 24/46/34/46/14/47, you may try 24/46/46/47/24/47, because here song is BCCCBC in sound height. That may make this part easy to catch and more reasonable.

[o!m beginner]
00:32:024 (32024|3) - you may consider make this note one column left regarding its sound height. Also, there are a few other situation just like this in later part.
01:33:646 (93646|0) - Same suggestion in difficult: you may try to catch with sound height.

for o!m expert, This is just great.

For overall thing, I recommend at least OD7 or higher. (For this song, OD10 is OK, for there are not many sliders and this song is highly beat-based). BTW you may need OD all the same in mania diffs.
You may consider lowering your hit sound volumn to 5% in these mapsets.
Everything are suggestions and you may take some of them

Good map!

chonicle

201 posts

Joined August 2009

chonicle 2013-04-10T02:18:13+00:00

Hi~ osu mania check.

[General]
all diff OD -> 8 or 9. Not many holds in your map.
HP: basic->6, difficult->7, expert->8.

[basic]
00:05:105 (5105|2) - move to 4th column 00:05:268 (5268|0) - move to 2nd column. These are "175", and it should be better with the following 7 sound.
00:32:024 (32024|3) - Move one column left? or place it on 2nd column. It should be "11 71".
00:34:619 (34619|3) - ^
00:35:430 (35430|1) - maybe something like this. The first 21 should be consistant with previous part, and the sync sound is 7123 later, better to put a stair.
http://puu.sh/2xauF
00:37:213 (37213|4) - Move one column left?
01:02:511 (62511|1) - 4th column? I know you want to keep right hand note clean to show the clap, but it won't hurt that we have one note every 4 claps(still pretty clear

)
01:05:105 (65105|1) - ^
01:07:700 (67700|3) - ^
01:10:295 (70295|3) - ^
01:03:159 (63159|1) - These notes are still "11 71" in the "clap+sync" part. But you only have 3 columns to place them. So it's up to you if you want to change position.
01:12:889 (72889|4,73213|4) - The music is getting intense. You probably want to change a little bit here. One way is to put all kick on 5th column and all clap on 4th column. (For this part)

[difficult]
Try to apply what xxbidiao said~
01:14:510 (74510|6) - add kick sound
01:19:700 (79700|6) - add kick sound

[expert]
01:15:484 - add a kick sound.
01:16:781 - add a kick sound.
01:16:619 - This clap should be at 01:16:457
01:43:159 (103159|5) - 7 press not rankable. delete one note x_x.

Btw your hitsound is fine. 100% is a little bit loud. You can try 80~90%. For the parts we have 4 or 5 notes simultaneously, you might want to adjust the volume further down. But if you want to keep it it's also fine. Nice relation between notes and music

Leorda

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Leorda 2013-04-16T13:42:05+00:00

Annyeonghaseyo

[General]
* All Mimineko's diff doesn't have preview time, please set the preview time
* All Mimineko's diff have a 2 red timing section than one, remove the wrong one

[BMin]
00:09:322 (6) - Spacing? (It's automattically moved when I click it)
00:14:511 (6) - ^
00:44:349 (1) - Having more than one/two repeating slider makes confusing for beginners. Consider to remove one/two repeating slider
00:54:403 (5,1) - I'm pretty sure that having a large spacing isn't good for beginners, I think
01:12:240 (5) - Spacing? (It's automattically moved when I click it)
01:25:862 (1) - Same suggestion as 00:44:349 (1)

[BMed]
00:25:862 (2,1) - Move 1 grid up for line-up the pattern (nazi)
00:29:268 (6,1) - Swap new combo?
01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - It's seems this pattern aren't friendly with beginners. How about stack? Like previous one?

[BMax]
01:27:808 (10,11,12) - Make a placement like this to make better flow http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/707549
01:32:997 (10,11,12) - ^

[BMix]
01:00:565 (9) - Add new combo for preventing of long combo

bmin11, how many time you have been possessed?

MoonFragrance

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MoonFragrance 2013-04-17T21:08:19+00:00

http://www.mediafire.com/?lbm4psu3vypnpfx - fixed files

xxbidiao wrote:
[o!m difficult]

00:28:781 (28781|4) - My advice is to change this 3535353535... to random keys like 1726354635..., for a hard difficulty 121212 style may makes the song inconsistently hard. Also, there are 2 parts of the song which share the same style(Another is at 00:59:916 (59916|4) - ) You may consider making one of them different from other to increase variety.

I think randomly arranged patterns are harder than regularly arranged one. Repeated patterns are more recognizable imo :3

chonicle wrote:
[basic]
00:05:105 (5105|2) - move to 4th column 00:05:268 (5268|0) - move to 2nd column. These are "175", and it should be better with the following 7 sound.
00:32:024 (32024|3) - Move one column left? or place it on 2nd column. It should be "11 71".
00:34:619 (34619|3) - ^
00:35:430 (35430|1) - maybe something like this. The first 21 should be consistant with previous part, and the sync sound is 7123 later, better to put a stair.
http://puu.sh/2xauF
00:37:213 (37213|4) - Move one column left?
01:02:511 (62511|1) - 4th column? I know you want to keep right hand note clean to show the clap, but it won't hurt that we have one note every 4 claps(still pretty clear )
01:05:105 (65105|1) - ^
01:07:700 (67700|3) - ^
01:10:295 (70295|3) - ^
01:03:159 (63159|1) - These notes are still "11 71" in the "clap+sync" part. But you only have 3 columns to place them. So it's up to you if you want to change position.
01:12:889 (72889|4,73213|4) - The music is getting intense. You probably want to change a little bit here. One way is to put all kick on 5th column and all clap on 4th column. (For this part)

xxbidiao wrote:
[o!m beginner]
00:32:024 (32024|3) - you may consider make this note one column left regarding its sound height. Also, there are a few other situation just like this in later part.

Same reason as above. I think some repeated notes in one column canl be more easier for beginners :3

others are all fixed.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-04-17T21:54:53+00:00

Leorda wrote:
Annyeonghaseyo Hi hi

[General]
* All Mimineko's diff doesn't have preview time, please set the preview time Fixed
* All Mimineko's diff have a 2 red timing section than one, remove the wrong one Fixed

[BMin]
00:09:322 (6) - Spacing? (It's automattically moved when I click it)
00:14:511 (6) - ^ I'm sure there is enough time for people to figure it out
00:44:349 (1) - Having more than one/two repeating slider makes confusing for beginners. Consider to remove one/two repeating slider I understand, but the slider is slow enough and it should be memorizable. Also a good reminder that repeats can be more then just one.
00:54:403 (5,1) - I'm pretty sure that having a large spacing isn't good for beginners, I think Fixed (kind of)
01:12:240 (5) - Spacing? (It's automattically moved when I click it) Fixed
01:25:862 (1) - Same suggestion as 00:44:349 (1) Same reason

[BMed]
00:25:862 (2,1) - Move 1 grid up for line-up the pattern (nazi) Fixed
00:29:268 (6,1) - Swap new combo? Fixed
01:22:619 (6,7,8,9,1) - It's seems this pattern aren't friendly with beginners. How about stack? Like previous one? Keeping the pattern with shorter distance snapping

[BMax]
01:27:808 (10,11,12) - Make a placement like this to make better flow http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/707549 Fixed
01:32:997 (10,11,12) - ^ Fixed

[BMix]
01:00:565 (9) - Add new combo for preventing of long combo I don't think long combo is a good reason to divide the stream with NC

bmin11, how many time you have been possessed? *POSSESSED*

Thanks Leorda

Nyquill

osu! Alumni

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Nyquill 2013-04-20T03:54:11+00:00

Thought I'd mention: Makar said he wants 3-5 mods on the taiko before he can see this bubbled.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-04-20T07:28:06+00:00

Nyquill wrote:
Thought I'd mention: Makar said he wants 3-5 mods on the taiko before he can see this bubbled.

p/2072419
p/2113604
p/2121663
p/2123716
p/2131988
p/2146307
p/2166830

That's 7 in total. I think we are good to go then.

Nyquill

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Nyquill 2013-04-20T15:06:58+00:00

I meant 3-5 more mods. As the taikos are right now, they are still a ways from ready.

bmin11

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bmin11 2013-04-20T18:20:22+00:00

Damn, I'll look for more then. By the way, any good suggestions for who I should ask for Taiko mods?

MoonFragrance

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Joined April 2009

MoonFragrance 2013-04-23T05:06:30+00:00

SPOILER

osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: TAG underground - POSSESSION.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 28756
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 3
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 216,20972,31351,41729,52107,62486,72864,83243,93621,103999
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:POSSESSION
TitleUnicode:POSSESSION
Artist:TAG underground
ArtistUnicode:TAG underground
Creator:bmin11
Version:Osu! Mania Expert
Source:Dance Dance Revolution X2
Tags:DDR bemani Shino Mimineko Moonfragrance
BeatmapID:236643
BeatmapSetID:62705

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:8
CircleSize:7
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"wallpaper-2224.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
241,324.324324324324,4,1,2,75,1,0
31376,-100,4,1,2,75,0,1
41754,-100,4,1,2,75,0,0
62511,-100,4,1,2,75,0,1
72888,-100,4,1,2,75,0,0
72889,-100,4,1,2,75,0,1
83268,-100,4,1,2,75,0,0
93646,-100,4,1,2,70,0,1
104024,-100,4,1,2,75,0,0


[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,255,255
Combo2 : 128,0,255
Combo3 : 255,255,255
Combo4 : 179,102,255

[HitObjects]
51,192,241,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,241,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,241,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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