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Kushi - Sakura no Zenya (Speed up Ver.) [OsuMania]

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Incendent
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 7:50:28 PM

Artist: Kushi
Title: Sakura no Zenya (Speed up Ver.)
Tags: Hatsune Miku, Cover, 初音ミク, Utaite, 歌い手
BPM: 204
Filesize: 9378kb
Play Time: 00:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Free - 7Key (2.73 stars, 218 notes)
  2. Independent - 4Key (3.91 stars, 2841 notes)
Download: Kushi - Sakura no Zenya (Speed up Ver.)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Insane complete: Modded (21) Times
Thanks to Kurai and Tofu1222 for fixing the META Data! :)
Thanks to dudehacker for helping me hitsound!
Thanks to first-light for helping this beatmap get noticed!
09/17/2017 - If you downloaded before this date, re-download the map please!!!
09/29/2017 - I thought the old BG was fine, but I got tired of people whining about it, so there.
02/16/2018 - I "Changed it up" a little bit since people said that it got boring after a while.
10/11/2018 - Fixed the 02/16 ver. It was garbage, I am garbage, please forgive me

Working on a 7K project with this map.


Mom, dad, thank you, and I"m sorry
But I don't want to be in this house for another second.
Hiding all the scars on my body, under a coat
I broke into a run, all by myself, into the streets, in the dead of night.

I'm sure you probably no longer remember
The promise we made when we were seperated.
"Once I've grown up, I'll come save you
I'll be waiting for you, on the night before the cherry bloom blossoms."


[Ping]
Ok, from your request in my modding queue

Insane
Didn't mod much of the pattern, sorry
Mod mostly heaviness and some errors

00:00:788 should be double cuz it's loud sound
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00:01:082 should only be single notes
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00:10:200 add a note
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00:12:847 remove a note
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02:46:082 end your LN here


After applied these, feel free to change pattern to make it comfortable to play
Topic Starter
Incendent

TheNewBungping wrote:

Ok, from your request in my modding queue

Insane
Didn't mod much of the pattern, sorry
Mod mostly heaviness and some errors

00:00:788 should be double cuz it's loud sound I understand what you are saying, but I am trying to bring out the melody, not the accompaniment. I'll save that for the snares.
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00:01:082 should only be single notes I disagree because of reason above.
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00:10:200 add a note I'll add notes
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00:12:847 remove a note Same Idea as the first.
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02:46:082 end your LN here Fixed


After applied these, feel free to change pattern to make it comfortable to play
Thanks for the mod!
error_exe777
I'm not good with maps above 3.5*, or longs maps, but i'll give it my best shot.

By the way, these are all suggestions. If you disagree or i made a mistake, don't apply it.

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Insane
00:00:788 - Should be a double

00:01:082 - Shouldn't be a double

^^ there is an second chime in the background every 2 beats. It is not where you placed the doubles for some of them. Please change it for the whole section until the singer

00:18:214 - Something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8533075

00:30:641 - Place another note here

00:32:405 (32405|1) - move to column 4

00:32:479 (32479|2) - delete it..? i can't here any sound

00:34:244 (34244|1) - ^^

00:37:185 (37185|2) - ^^

00:37:552 - like this..? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8533150

00:39:464 (39464|2,39538|1) - no sound

00:41:817 (41817|1) - ^^

00:41:670 (41670|0) - extend to 00:41:964

00:41:964 (41964|0) - move to column 2

00:44:170 (44170|1) - no sound

00:46:376 (46376|2) - extend to 00:46:670

00:46:523 (46523|1) - no sound

00:46:670 (46670|2) - move to column 2

00:47:847 - i recommend something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/85331830

01:15:494 (75494|0,75494|2,75494|1,75494|3,75788|1,75788|0,75788|2,75788|3,76082|3,76082|2,76082|1,76082|0) - these 3 quads emphasise the snare way to much imo. I would change them to doubles but it's up to you

01:17:111 - add one

01:17:994 - ^^

01:26:523 - ^^

01:27:405 - ^^

01:28:288 - ^^

01:29:170 - ^^

01:40:935 - like this..? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8533216

02:23:729 (143729|1,143729|3,143729|0,143729|2,144023|0,144023|1,144023|3,144023|2,144317|3,144317|2,144317|0,144317|1) - again with the quads

02:25:347 - add one

02:26:229 - ^^

02:30:052 (150052|1,150347|0,150641|2,150935|2,151229|0,151523|3,151817|3) - these seem out of place from the song and the other kiai times. I recommend getting rid of them

02:34:758 - add one

02:35:641 - ^^

02:36:523 - ^^

02:37:405 - ^^

03:06:082 to 03:07:258 - this doesn't seem accurate. The doubles every beat are the same sound as the singles in between, and there is a different sound afterwards. Change to something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8534600 (i couldn't find the correct timing for those drums, you may want to tweak it if you apply it)

03:15:494 to 03:16:670 - same as above

03:24:905 - ^^

03:33:141 - ^^ (i recommend all doubles for this section)

03:46:523 - add one

03:47:405 - ^^

03:55:935 - ^^

03:56:817 - ^^

03:57:700 - ^^

03:58:582 - ^^

03:58:876 - ^^

04:05:347 - ^^

04:06:229 - ^^

04:35:494 (275494|0) - extend this to 04:46:082

04:41:376 - use the same principles with the chimes at the beginning until the singer again

05:09:023 (309023|2) - delete this

good luck with your map!
Topic Starter
Incendent

OwenF04 wrote:

I'm not good with maps above 3.5*, or longs maps, but i'll give it my best shot.

By the way, these are all suggestions. If you disagree or i made a mistake, don't apply it.

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Insane
00:00:788 - Should be a double You aren't wrong about what you are saying, but I feel like there are more than one way to things than just accenting louder notes. To me, the chimes (If you want to be exact, the xylophones) seem to speak every 3rd beat,there really isn't much different about them than to the other notes, yet, that's how I fell. As I said, you are not wrong, but I feel like mapping this way isn't wrong either, your method is just more common. In fact, so common that it's predictable. (I'm saying that with that logic, it's like saying that THIS song must be mapped THIS way with THIS amount of notes. If that was the case, then I literally could just copy/paste someone elses song onto mine and call it a wrap and people wouldn't even know. (Another reason why I mapped it this way) I might just be stubborn, but I feel pretty strong about this.

00:01:082 - Shouldn't be a double ^

^^ there is an second chime in the background every 2 beats. It is not where you placed the doubles for some of them. Please change it for the whole section until the singer Of course, I do hear it. I'm simply ignoring it. :P

00:18:214 - Something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8533075 I'll try this out.

00:30:641 - Place another note here I know that you are talking about the snares here, but I feel like another note here would make this part unnecisarily hard and I'm transitioning from snares to tone notes anyways. So I'd rather not.

00:32:405 (32405|1) - move to column 4 If someone else points it out and has a decent reason on why it should be moved, then I will,
but in play testing, this part does have its own flow.


00:32:479 (32479|2) - delete it..? i can't here any sound Oh, scratch my previous note. I'll move it and delete this one.

00:34:244 (34244|1) - ^^

00:37:185 (37185|2) - ^^ I was going to change this because I thought you were right. But when I play tested it, it completely changed the readability on the other grace note in the LN section there. Even if it's not backed by the music, it does have a valid reason for being there to me, if someone can convince me otherwise though, I'll change it.

00:37:552 - like this..? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8533150 I tried your suggestion and played it and it just completely wrecked the flow and made this section a lot harder than it should be.

00:39:464 (39464|2,39538|1) - no sound Changed.

00:41:817 (41817|1) - ^^ Remove that note and play test it. I don't know about you, but that just feels awkward to me. I'll keep it there.

00:41:670 (41670|0) - extend to 00:41:964 Its funny how you only point that one out. Also, the leingth is fine. Not everything is Black and White.

00:41:964 (41964|0) - move to column 2 I assume for the reason above. Nah.

00:44:170 (44170|1) - no sound Flow

00:46:376 (46376|2) - extend to 00:46:670

00:46:523 (46523|1) - no sound Nah

00:46:670 (46670|2) - move to column 2 I'm good

00:47:847 - i recommend something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/85331830 The image isn't showing up for me.

01:15:494 (75494|0,75494|2,75494|1,75494|3,75788|1,75788|0,75788|2,75788|3,76082|3,76082|2,76082|1,76082|0) - these 3 quads emphasise the snare way to much imo. I would change them to doubles but it's up to you I understand what you are getting at here, but these quads are preparing you for the main chorus to say (Hey, get ready to mash) I promise, there is a method to my madness.

01:17:111 - add one I get it, but there isn't a lot of ways you can vary a 3 key note. So some places are 2 notes for variation.

01:17:994 - ^^

01:26:523 - ^^

01:27:405 - ^^

01:28:288 - ^^

01:29:170 - ^^
I promise, there is a method to my madness.
01:40:935 - like this..? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8533216 Good Idea, but I'm gonna make them 2 rolls.

02:23:729 (143729|1,143729|3,143729|0,143729|2,144023|0,144023|1,144023|3,144023|2,144317|3,144317|2,144317|0,144317|1) - again with the quads Again with the preparation. (Think of it as a warm up.)

02:25:347 - add one kjdfokjdfdfjkdfjk

02:26:229 - ^^ Bleh

02:30:052 (150052|1,150347|0,150641|2,150935|2,151229|0,151523|3,151817|3) - these seem out of place from the song and the other kiai times. I recommend getting rid of them You are the first one to complain about these, I had a few people play test my maps and the first thing people pointed out was in fact the LN's, but said that we need more Easy LN maps like this. If I get more complaints, I'll consider it though.

02:34:758 - add one Meh

02:35:641 - ^^

02:36:523 - ^^

02:37:405 - ^^


03:06:082 to 03:07:258 - this doesn't seem accurate. The doubles every beat are the same sound as the singles in between, and there is a different sound afterwards. Change to something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8534600 (i couldn't find the correct timing for those drums, you may want to tweak it if you apply it) That's odd. The doubles are there to represent the beginning of each triplet, but I do find the sound interesting. Yet when played at 100% speed, it sounds fine to me. I'm not gonna change it yet, but I'll keep it in mind. (Keep in mind that the LN secion before that kinda sets the tempo to make it feel natural anyways, so people would probably be more inclined to follow my mapping anyways instead of the song. but yeah.

03:15:494 to 03:16:670 - same as above I listened to this and I figured out the problem. this part is correct, but the other part is just a bit of human error. I think these parts are meant to be the same. The timing for this part is correct, I'll still keep the first drum part in mind though.

03:24:905 - ^^ Same as above.

03:33:141 - ^^ (i recommend all doubles for this section) Uh? All doubles? Like to be removed? Or all notes should be double? Either way,
I say nay.


03:46:523 - add one If I keep saying no, it'll be beating a dead horse, I think you get my intent.

03:47:405 - ^^

03:55:935 - ^^

03:56:817 - ^^

03:57:700 - ^^

03:58:582 - ^^

03:58:876 - ^^

04:05:347 - ^^

04:06:229 - ^^

04:35:494 (275494|0) - extend this to 04:46:082 I understand why, but i'm mapping the new Idea and to have full variation, I would like all 4 spaces open. Another thing is that the LN would overwelcome its stay if I left it. give that 0 finger a rest from holding. No one likes holding that long.

04:41:376 - use the same principles with the chimes at the beginning until the singer again Refer to the top of the post.

05:09:023 (309023|2) - delete this Why?


good luck with your map!
Thanks for the mod! I appreciate the time you put into it! :)
_Stan
Hello~ for M4M here

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Insane
  1. 00:09:317 - You should add a note here cuz there have a music sound, actually it's ( music sound + voice sound ) just like 00:09:611 - , so why different setting?
  2. 00:57:258 - to 00:57:847 - Wrong position, you can hear 3 beats at 00:57:258 - 00:57:484 - 00:57:700 -
  3. 01:07:258 (67258|0) - add a note. If this LN mean to background bass music, then where is the cymbal??
  4. 01:10:200 - add a note, just like you did before
  5. 01:12:552 - add a note, no need to emphasize the beat?
  6. 01:13:729 - delete a note, haevy same with 01:13:288 -
  7. 01:14:317 - delete a note, you can hear obviously is softer than 01:14:170 - , why 2 notes here?
  8. 01:15:494 (75494|1,75494|2,75494|0,75788|1,75788|0,75788|2,76082|0,76082|2,76082|1) - 3 notes reflect cymbal, 4 notes reflect hat, appropriate?
  9. 01:18:141 (78141|1) - to col [3], avoid 5-jack
  10. 01:21:082 - add a note, have a drum
  11. 01:27:552 (87552|2) - to col [2], same reason
  12. 01:40:494 - add a note at col [2]
  13. 01:42:405 - add a note, need to emphasis
  14. 01:46:523 (106523|3) - move to col [2], it more comfortable to hit, cuz all left hand key
  15. 02:14:905 - add a note at col [4], drum
  16. 02:23:729 - same problems with blue one
  17. 02:25:788 - same problems, penta-hits is not nice for players and this is 4* map
  18. 02:40:200 - add a note at col [4], drum
  19. 02:40:788 - add a note at col [1]
  20. 04:00:935 (240935|2) - to col [2], 04:01:082 (241082|1) - to col [1], 04:00:935 (240935|2,241082|2) - not ok, cuz same whole part you do note make next double-hit so why here? And it experience sucks
  21. 04:35:494 - add a LN and a note. 2 LNs refer to electro-bass / piano background music, note refer to cymbal
  22. 04:35:494 (275494|0) - Is it right to stop at here ?
  23. 04:49:023 - 04:49:611 - add a note, 04:49:317 - delete a note, listen to the chord

ok, that's all. GL :)
Topic Starter
Incendent

_Stan wrote:

Hello~ for M4M here

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Insane
  1. 00:09:317 - You should add a note here cuz there have a music sound, actually it's ( music sound + voice sound ) just like 00:09:611 - , so why different setting? Just a transition.
  2. 00:57:258 - to 00:57:847 - Wrong position, you can hear 3 beats at 00:57:258 - 00:57:484 - 00:57:700 - Changed.
  3. 01:07:258 (67258|0) - add a note. If this LN mean to background bass music, then where is the cymbal?? Trying my best to avoid hammers in LN parts. But if someone else says that a note should be there, I'll change it.
  4. 01:10:200 - add a note, just like you did before Changed
  5. 01:12:552 - add a note, no need to emphasize the beat? Changed.
  6. 01:13:729 - delete a note, haevy same with 01:13:288 - Changed.
  7. 01:14:317 - delete a note, you can hear obviously is softer than 01:14:170 - , why 2 notes here? I'll change it.
  8. 01:15:494 (75494|1,75494|2,75494|0,75788|1,75788|0,75788|2,76082|0,76082|2,76082|1) - 3 notes reflect cymbal, 4 notes reflect hat, appropriate? The quads are supposed to be a transition to prepare the player for the hand hammers after them.
  9. 01:18:141 (78141|1) - to col [3], avoid 5-jack Oops, changed.
  10. 01:21:082 - add a note, have a drum Yeah, thanks for catching that.
  11. 01:27:552 (87552|2) - to col [2], same reason Fixed
  12. 01:40:494 - add a note at col [2] I know why you want me to do it, but that would kinda ruin the flow there a little. Also, that note isn't loud, so why make it a hand?
  13. 01:42:405 - add a note, need to emphasis Changed.
  14. 01:46:523 (106523|3) - move to col [2], it more comfortable to hit, cuz all left hand key Makes sense.
  15. 02:14:905 - add a note at col [4], drum Changed.
  16. 02:23:729 - same problems with blue one Again, Transition.
  17. 02:25:788 - same problems, penta-hits is not nice for players and this is 4* map Fixed
  18. 02:40:200 - add a note at col [4], drum Done
  19. 02:40:788 - add a note at col [1] :)
  20. 04:00:935 (240935|2) - to col [2], 04:01:082 (241082|1) - to col [1], 04:00:935 (240935|2,241082|2) - not ok, cuz same whole part you do note make next double-hit so why here? And it experience sucks Remapped this part.
  21. 04:35:494 - add a LN and a note. 2 LNs refer to electro-bass / piano background music, note refer to cymbal
  22. 04:35:494 (275494|0) - Is it right to stop at here ? I feel like it is, sure, the sound stays longer, but I'd feel like holding that note would make it boring, and plus, a new part of the song is playing now, It's a point of interest, so I'm mapping new point of interest.
  23. 04:49:023 - 04:49:611 - add a note, 04:49:317 - delete a note, listen to the chord Are you talking for the whole song? Because I did the same thing at the beginning and you didn't point it out. I'm accenting the first note of every 3/4 beat. I'm kinda making an artificial 3/4 time with these sections despite the common 4/4 time. I figured it'd be neat, but if you still think it should be changed, I'll change it.

ok, that's all. GL :)
Thanks for the mod!
Litharrale
NM from my queue
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cute song

BG sux, here's a better one https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/BmZ3nA8.jpg
Obligatory hitsound your map

The mapping at the start feels erratic and without thought or reason behind it. 00:00:200 (200|0,200|2) - this is a chord in the music and you've represented it as a double which is good. This is followed up by a single note in the music which you've mapped with a single 00:00:494 (494|1), also good. You've established a pattern here which is common and makes sense. Chords have >1 note, single sounds = 1 note. So why is the 3rd sound in the whole song, which is a chord a single? 00:00:788 (788|2)

This is then followed by a single note mapped as a double 00:01:082 (1082|0,1082|3) - and then a chord mapped as a single 00:01:376 (1376|1). it makes no sense. You've also missed the mark on a lot of pitch mapping in the intro section which is a missed opportunity. I'd suggest going back and remapping it.

00:10:494 (10494|2) - This LN is two syllables (the a then the ri). Halve the length and turn the note in col 1 into a 1/2 beat LN. Plays a lot better
00:13:435 (13435|3) - ^
00:13:729 (13729|2) - This LN is too long for the sound that it's representing
00:15:200 (15200|3) - syllable issue again. I don't know if you're going for a 1/1 LN gimmick or what but it doesn't fit well. Going to stop mentioning this issue here
00:27:552 (27552|3,27700|0) - You ignore the vocals immediately preceding this and then decide to map them here? Stay consistent.
00:33:141 (33141|1) - double the strong sound
00:45:641 (45641|0,45714|1,45788|2,45935|0,45935|1,46082|2,46229|1,46376|0,46376|2,46523|1) - dont forget its 4k not 3k
00:47:847 (47847|3,47847|1,47994|2,47994|0,48141|1,48141|3) - This is not the pattern to use here considering the strong sound on the second blue tick
00:48:288 (48288|0) - loud snare with only a single?
00:57:258 (57258|1,57258|3,57332|2,57405|1,57479|0,57552|2,57552|3,57626|0,57700|1,57773|2) - This section has strong sounds 3/4 apart but you've gone with the classic 4/4. It's almost as if you didn't listen to the song while mapping this
01:18:435 (78435|2) - no

Gonna stop here. This map is deeply flawed, good luck regardless
Topic Starter
Incendent

Litharrale wrote:

NM from my queue
1|2|3|4
cute song

BG sux, here's a better one https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/BmZ3nA8.jpg I can't really see the difference, I mean, it moved over to the left a few pixels, but the bg quality didn't change or anything. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Obligatory hitsound your map I'll work on it. (I don't map with the default skin, so I guess I hear things differently then others.

The mapping at the start feels erratic and without thought or reason behind it. 00:00:200 (200|0,200|2) - this is a chord in the music and you've represented it as a double which is good. This is followed up by a single note in the music which you've mapped with a single 00:00:494 (494|1), also good. You've established a pattern here which is common and makes sense. Chords have >1 note, single sounds = 1 note. So why is the 3rd sound in the whole song, which is a chord a single? 00:00:788 (788|2) Here, I was trying something a little different (kinda a experiment) where I'd pair notes in 3 note sets instead of making it play like a 4/4. so that way it would be 2 sets of 3/4 measures and a 1/2 measure. (A total of 8 counts) But I can see that a lot of people dislike this idea and everyone so far has shot it down, So I'll change it.

This is then followed by a single note mapped as a double 00:01:082 (1082|0,1082|3) - and then a chord mapped as a single 00:01:376 (1376|1). it makes no sense. You've also missed the mark on a lot of pitch mapping in the intro section which is a missed opportunity. I'd suggest going back and remapping it.

00:10:494 (10494|2) - This LN is two syllables (the a then the ri). Halve the length and turn the note in col 1 into a 1/2 beat LN. Plays a lot better I just remapped the LN part (Not from scratch, but I changed all of the LN patterns like this.)
00:13:435 (13435|3) - ^
00:13:729 (13729|2) - This LN is too long for the sound that it's representing
00:15:200 (15200|3) - syllable issue again. I don't know if you're going for a 1/1 LN gimmick or what but it doesn't fit well. Going to stop mentioning this issue here
00:27:552 (27552|3,27700|0) - You ignore the vocals immediately preceding this and then decide to map them here? Stay consistent. I mapped both the chords and the vocals.
00:33:141 (33141|1) - double the strong sound I'll be real, I completely mapped that part wrong. I even listened to it over and over again making sure it was right. I must have been tired. Remapped. Hopefully I keep the proper flow going though, I'll have to get some new play testers.
00:45:641 (45641|0,45714|1,45788|2,45935|0,45935|1,46082|2,46229|1,46376|0,46376|2,46523|1) - dont forget its 4k not 3k Fixed the hand Bias.
00:47:847 (47847|3,47847|1,47994|2,47994|0,48141|1,48141|3) - This is not the pattern to use here considering the strong sound on the second blue tick I mapped like 1/3 of this song in one sitting, so as I said previously, this was probably me mapping at 11PM or something after work.
00:48:288 (48288|0) - loud snare with only a single? I remapped this part... but I feel like I wrecked the flow. Can you check that for me when I update my map please?
00:57:258 (57258|1,57258|3,57332|2,57405|1,57479|0,57552|2,57552|3,57626|0,57700|1,57773|2) - This section has strong sounds 3/4 apart but you've gone with the classic 4/4. It's almost as if you didn't listen to the song while mapping this Someone already beat you to it. Fixed.
01:18:435 (78435|2) - no Are you talking about the hands in general? or the 5 stack sets. If it's the 5 stack sets, it's already been fixed,
I just haven't updated it yet. If it's the hands, that's not going away. sorry.


Gonna stop here. This map is deeply flawed, good luck regardless
Thanks for modding my map. I'm kinda disappointed that you think it's bad, but I respect honest statements. (After all, it is my 2nd attempt at mapping) I've redone a lot of things and hopefully made it better by doing so.
Thanks :)
booty
This is a long song so I'm just going to do a short mod on the beginning but a lot of it can be applied throughout the song so look for these. Feel free to use these changes.

00:09:905 (9905|2) - There should be a note here along with the slider
00:12:258 (12258|2) - ^
00:16:376 (16376|2,16523|0) - Mapped to nothing, ghost note. It should be consistent with the space at 00:20:788 (20788|2) - which has no notes and is mapped correctly.
00:16:964 (16964|1) - Add a note
00:26:082 (26082|3,26082|2) - This should have 3 notes, start of chorus and is much louder than the following double.
00:39:905 (39905|3) - Missing double
00:40:052 (40052|1,40052|0) - Double here when it should be at the end of the pattern 00:40:200 (40200|1) at here
00:41:376 (41376|3) - Missing double
00:57:258 (57258|1,57332|2,57405|1,57479|2,57552|1,57626|2,57700|1,57773|2,57847|1) - Change this pattern here
01:00:200 (60200|3) - Add a note
01:07:258 (67258|0) - Add a note
01:28:729 (88729|1,88876|1,89023|1,89170|1,89317|1) - Don't recommend having the same note played 5 times in a row for this pattern. Just a playability thing.
01:33:729 (93729|1) - Add a note, obvious double note sound here
01:34:317 (94317|3) - ^ The other doubles are combo'd with LN beginnings which is why its ok there. Here its just by itself for no reason and should be a double. (if you wanted an explanation here u go)
01:41:670 (101670|1) - Double sound
01:56:523 (116523|2) - This beat here only receives 1 note and is significantly louder than 01:56:376 (116376|0,116376|3,116376|1) - which receives 3 notes?
Topic Starter
Incendent

booty wrote:

This is a long song so I'm just going to do a short mod on the beginning but a lot of it can be applied throughout the song so look for these. Feel free to use these changes.

00:09:905 (9905|2) - There should be a note here along with the slider I don't think so. Putting a note on every 1/1 tick will ruin the patern I've laid out.
00:12:258 (12258|2) - ^ ^
00:16:376 (16376|2,16523|0) - Mapped to nothing, ghost note. It should be consistent with the space at 00:20:788 (20788|2) - which has no notes and is mapped correctly. Listen to the vocals, there is a reason those notes are there.
00:16:964 (16964|1) - Add a note Again, original pattern. Yet, you did help me find a mistake, I took out the single after it.
00:26:082 (26082|3,26082|2) - This should have 3 notes, start of chorus and is much louder than the following double. There are only 2 sounds there, there is nothing worth accenting here.
00:39:905 (39905|3) - Missing double Listen to the purcussion at 25% Although I did find a mistake prior to this section, so don't worry, you are helping xD
00:40:052 (40052|1,40052|0) - Double here when it should be at the end of the pattern 00:40:200 (40200|1) at here
00:41:376 (41376|3) - Missing double Purcussion.
00:57:258 (57258|1,57332|2,57405|1,57479|2,57552|1,57626|2,57700|1,57773|2,57847|1) - Change this pattern hereA lot of people say that flow is good there.
01:00:200 (60200|3) - Add a note I would if it didn't destroy the flow.
01:07:258 (67258|0) - Add a note ^
01:28:729 (88729|1,88876|1,89023|1,89170|1,89317|1) - Don't recommend having the same note played 5 times in a row for this pattern. Just a playability thing. Thought I fixed all of them, guess one got past me, thanks.
01:33:729 (93729|1) - Add a note, obvious double note sound here Done.
01:34:317 (94317|3) - ^ The other doubles are combo'd with LN beginnings which is why its ok there. Here its just by itself for no reason and should be a double. (if you wanted an explanation here u go) ^
01:41:670 (101670|1) - Double sound Again, percussion, but there are some errors in this section that I noticed and I'll fix them.
01:56:523 (116523|2) - This beat here only receives 1 note and is significantly louder than 01:56:376 (116376|0,116376|3,116376|1) - which receives 3 notes? Fixed, it, but it looks like I'm going to have to go through this point again. I've seen a lot of errors and it's ruining how I express my intent on this map.
Thanks for the mod! :)
Tectre
This is my mod for your map!
I really quite enjoyed playing this map! A few small things that I'd like to have a look at though.

General Comments:
-I feel like the BG you've chosen fits very well!
-The hit sounds are good but REALLY loud. Especially the hit sounds in the chorus' chord jumps. Please turn your hit sounds down!
-The audio in general is fairly loud :P

Independence
Timing:
The timing on this map was really well done. I didn't find any issues here!

Pattern:
Overall, a nice pattern. Just a few things I noticed, and most, if not all are personal opinion.
You have really nice transitions between the LN's!

00:52:700 (52700|1,52773|2,52773|0,52847|1,52994|0,52994|2) - I'm not the biggest fan of this pattern. This is just my opinion, but change it to say, this: 00:52:700 (52700|1,52773|2,52773|3,52847|0,52994|1,52994|2) -

01:16:670 (76670|3,76670|2,76670|0,76817|0,76817|1,76817|2,76964|3,76964|1,76964|0,77111|2,77111|3,77258|2,77258|1,77258|0) - This chord jump is a little uncomfy. Try this (just a suggestion from personal opinion): 01:16:670 (76670|1,76670|3,76670|0,76817|0,76817|1,76817|2,76964|2,76964|3,76964|0,77111|2,77111|3,77258|3,77258|2,77258|1) -

02:00:935 (120935|2,121008|3,121008|1,121082|2,121229|1,121229|3) - Again, this pattern here. It's just 100% personal opinion, but it just doesn't really fit the map. Try this: 02:00:935 (120935|1,121008|3,121008|0,121082|2,121229|1,121229|3) -

03:42:700 (222700|0,222847|0,222994|0,223141|1,223141|0,223288|1,223288|0,223435|1,223435|0,223582|1,223582|0,223729|2,223729|1,223729|0,223876|2,223876|1,223876|0,224023|1,224023|2,224023|0,224170|2,224170|1,224170|0,224317|2,224317|3,224317|1,224317|0,224464|1,224464|0,224464|3,224464|2,224611|2,224611|3,224611|0,224611|1,224758|0,224758|1,224758|3,224758|2) - I'm not a very big fan of this Maybe try this: 03:42:700 (222700|2,222700|3,222700|0,222847|2,222847|3,222847|0,222994|3,222994|2,222994|0,223141|0,223141|2,223141|1,223288|1,223288|2,223288|0,223435|1,223435|2,223435|0,223582|1,223582|2,223582|0,223729|1,223729|3,223729|0,223876|3,223876|1,223876|0,224023|3,224023|1,224023|0,224170|3,224170|1,224170|0,224317|2,224317|3,224317|1,224317|0,224464|1,224464|0,224464|3,224464|2,224611|2,224611|3,224611|0,224611|1,224758|0,224758|1,224758|3,224758|2) -

Overall, a very good map! I really hope this map gets ranked!!! :) :D
Topic Starter
Incendent

Tectre wrote:

This is my mod for your map!
I really quite enjoyed playing this map! A few small things that I'd like to have a look at though.

General Comments:
-I feel like the BG you've chosen fits very well! Thanks (Even though I just stole it from the standard ver. xD)
-The hit sounds are good but REALLY loud. Especially the hit sounds in the chorus' chord jumps. Please turn your hit sounds down! Ok,
The hit sounds are the newest part of the song, so I figured that they would be off. (Hitsounding is hard to me) I'll adjust it.

-The audio in general is fairly loud :P I'm not really to sure what to do about the general audio. :\ But I'll make a conscious note.

Independence
Timing:
The timing on this map was really well done. I didn't find any issues here! Ok, that's a good sign. :)

Pattern:
Overall, a nice pattern. Just a few things I noticed, and most, if not all are personal opinion.
You have really nice transitions between the LN's!

00:52:700 (52700|1,52773|2,52773|0,52847|1,52994|0,52994|2) - I'm not the biggest fan of this pattern. This is just my opinion, but change it to say, this: 00:52:700 (52700|1,52773|2,52773|3,52847|0,52994|1,52994|2) - Ok, I tried that pattern, and it still flows nicely, so I don't have any problems with it. There are also no duplicate patterns in that section, so it works. :)

01:16:670 (76670|3,76670|2,76670|0,76817|0,76817|1,76817|2,76964|3,76964|1,76964|0,77111|2,77111|3,77258|2,77258|1,77258|0) - This chord jump is a little uncomfy. Try this (just a suggestion from personal opinion): 01:16:670 (76670|1,76670|3,76670|0,76817|0,76817|1,76817|2,76964|2,76964|3,76964|0,77111|2,77111|3,77258|3,77258|2,77258|1) -I changed it to how you suggested, and I don't really feel much difference. Yet, I don't really have a problem with that change, so I think it's a keeper.

02:00:935 (120935|2,121008|3,121008|1,121082|2,121229|1,121229|3) - Again, this pattern here. It's just 100% personal opinion, but it just doesn't really fit the map. Try this: 02:00:935 (120935|1,121008|3,121008|0,121082|2,121229|1,121229|3) - I don't think I have that pattern anywhere in the map at all, so I'll do that just for variety. :)

03:42:700 (222700|0,222847|0,222994|0,223141|1,223141|0,223288|1,223288|0,223435|1,223435|0,223582|1,223582|0,223729|2,223729|1,223729|0,223876|2,223876|1,223876|0,224023|1,224023|2,224023|0,224170|2,224170|1,224170|0,224317|2,224317|3,224317|1,224317|0,224464|1,224464|0,224464|3,224464|2,224611|2,224611|3,224611|0,224611|1,224758|0,224758|1,224758|3,224758|2) - I'm not a very big fan of this Maybe try this: 03:42:700 (222700|2,222700|3,222700|0,222847|2,222847|3,222847|0,222994|3,222994|2,222994|0,223141|0,223141|2,223141|1,223288|1,223288|2,223288|0,223435|1,223435|2,223435|0,223582|1,223582|2,223582|0,223729|1,223729|3,223729|0,223876|3,223876|1,223876|0,224023|3,224023|1,224023|0,224170|3,224170|1,224170|0,224317|2,224317|3,224317|1,224317|0,224464|1,224464|0,224464|3,224464|2,224611|2,224611|3,224611|0,224611|1,224758|0,224758|1,224758|3,224758|2) - I hate doing this to someone who just wrote that much code for one area in a map, but this one is a no-go for me.
A few reasons. 1:It doesn't really fit the song. 2: It doesn't build up like the music. 3: It's an unnecessary difficulty spike. (It went from 4.01 stars to 4.14 stars.) and 4: There are already a lot of hands after this part, so having nothing but hands there might run it dry.

Overall, a very good map! I really hope this map gets ranked!!! :) :D
I'm glad you think so! I'll change up the hitsounds as well,
although I'm not to sure if I'll be changing the right things to the right setting. I really like this song and I think it'd be cool for this one to be my first ranked map. I'll keep improving the map until it's up to ranking standards! :)
Envory
Hi Indence Pffft LOL I fail spell ur nick XD
Here we go


|1|2|3|4|





Independence
00:04:905 (4905|2) - Move to col 4.. if you stay it make a stacking like > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8572359
00:19:023 (19023|1) - Move to col 1
01:15:494 (75494|1,75494|0,75494|3,75494|2) - Hey didn't it too excessive placed 4 notes?? i suggest you just placed 2 notes at col 3 and 4
02:23:729 (143729|0,143729|1,143729|2,143729|3) - Same here like ^ but placed at col 1 and 2
02:45:494 - From here until 02:46:082 - its will be great if you do little jack like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8572433
03:42:552 (222552|0) - Add 2 notes at col 3 and 4 (hear carefully) there have a loud drum




Done!
GL Incendent! :D :D :D
Topic Starter
Incendent

Envory wrote:

Hi Indence Pffft LOL I fail spell ur nick XD
Here we go


|1|2|3|4|





Independence
00:04:905 (4905|2) - Move to col 4.. if you stay it make a stacking like > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8572359 Not all stacks are bad
00:19:023 (19023|1) - Move to col 1 For flow, right? Gotcha.
01:15:494 (75494|1,75494|0,75494|3,75494|2) - Hey didn't it too excessive placed 4 notes?? i suggest you just placed 2 notes at col 3 and 4 I would like to keep those quads there. It prepares the player for the triples (It's so that the player has a little taste of what's to come.)
That's the Idea at least.

02:23:729 (143729|0,143729|1,143729|2,143729|3) - Same here like ^ but placed at col 1 and 2^
02:45:494 - From here until 02:46:082 - its will be great if you do little jack like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8572433 Alright, Will do.
03:42:552 (222552|0) - Add 2 notes at col 3 and 4 (hear carefully) there have a loud drum It makes that part a little awkward in my opinion,
I think I'll leave it as it is.





Done!
GL Incendent! :D :D :D

Thanks for the mod! And good luck on your map as well! :)
KcHecKa
I would never map like this.
Topic Starter
Incendent

KcHecKa wrote:

I would never map like this.

Meh, you do you bud.
Emperor of Time
hello ... M4M Here

Indepence Modding
1|2|3|4

00:05:190 - move to 2 better xD
00:26:366 - move to 1
00:30:484 - delete one, it's single tap
00:30:631 - add 1 note
00:32:910 - i hear note in here, add 1 note
00:35:998 - ^
00:35:998 - ^
00:37:616 - ^
00:37:763 - ^
00:38:498 - ^
00:38:645 - ^
00:44:013 - add 1 note here beacause finishing
00:49:895 (49895|2) - move to 2
00:50:042 (50042|1) - move to 3
00:51:072 - add 1 note here beacause finishing, i hear cymbal sound.
00:53:425 - ^
00:55:778 - ^
01:00:484 - ^
01:02:837 - ^
01:05:190 - add 2 note here
01:07:248 - ^
01:07:542 -^
01:09:895 - ^
01:13:719 (73719|0) - move to 4
01:13:719 (73719|0) - add 1 note to 4
01:17:690 - delete 1 note
01:18:572 - ^
01:18:866 - ^
01:19:454 - ^
01:19:748 - ^
01:26:219 - ^
01:27:101 - ^
01:27:984 - ^
01:28:866 - ^
01:29:601 - add 1 note
01:29:895 - add 2 note
01:30:042 - add 1 note
01:31:366 - ^
01:31:954 - ^
01:32:542 - ^
01:33:131 - ^
01:56:145 - ^
01:56:440 - ^
02:25:042 - delete 1 note
02:25:925 - ^
02:26:807 - ^
02:27:101 - ^
02:27:690 - ^
02:27:984 - ^
02:34:454 - ^
02:35:337 - ^
02:36:219 - ^
02:37:101 - ^
02:45:925 - move to 1
02:47:248 (167248|3,167248|1,167248|0,167346|2,167444|1,167542|0,167542|3,167542|2,167640|1,167739|2,167837|3,167837|0,167837|1,167935|2,168033|1,168131|3,168131|0,168131|2,168229|1,168327|2) - please this pattern like this Pic 1Pic 2Pic 3
03:46:219 - Delete 1 note
03:47:101 - ^
03:47:984 - ^
03:48:278 - ^
03:48:866 - ^
03:49:160 - ^
03:55:631 - ^
03:56:513 - ^
03:57:395 - ^
03:58:278 - ^
04:05:042 - ^
04:05:925 - ^
04:06:807 - ^
04:07:101 - ^
04:07:690 - ^
04:07:984 - ^
04:16:366 - 04:16:440 - 04:16:513 - 04:16:587 - add 1 note

Good Luck with your map xD
Crumpey
Just a cheeky irc
02:52 CrumpetFiddler: ye hi
02:52 Incendent: oh hey!
02:53 CrumpetFiddler: seems you remember who i am
02:53 Incendent: yeah, modding queue
02:53 CrumpetFiddler: good stuff
02:53 CrumpetFiddler: im honoured
02:53 Incendent: xD
02:53 CrumpetFiddler: so im not going to do a full mod of ur song
02:53 Incendent: Honestly it was the picture
02:53 CrumpetFiddler: but ill do a quick irc if ya want
02:53 CrumpetFiddler: just going over the main problems i find if i do find any
02:53 Incendent: Ok, sure. If you have something, let me know man
02:53 Incendent: :)
02:54 Incendent: Ok, you just started going over it?
02:54 CrumpetFiddler: becuz 3am and ive been working dumb hours recently
02:54 CrumpetFiddler: im posting another mod then ill start
02:54 Incendent: Understandable. I work for the military so I'm all on the stupid scheduals
02:56 CrumpetFiddler: XD
02:56 CrumpetFiddler: i did a 5:30pm, to 2:30 am i think
02:57 Incendent: midnight shifts are fun, arent they? (I've only had one of those so far, I'm the newest member of the company)
02:57 Incendent: It was a 8PM to 8AM (I was watching a phone)
02:57 Incendent: xD
02:58 CrumpetFiddler: XD checking ur map now btw
02:58 Incendent: ok
02:59 Incendent: Lol, tbh, i'm a little burnt out on mania xD (So my mapping has been getting neglected
03:00 Incendent: I have a few M4M's to get too as well
03:00 CrumpetFiddler: naH I GET THAT
03:00 CrumpetFiddler: oops
03:00 Incendent: (One of them was a 9 minute map, rip me)
03:00 CrumpetFiddler: I just straight up decline those
03:00 CrumpetFiddler: i dont get much time by myself let alone to waste my time on those
03:00 Incendent: Yeah, but to be fair, I'm also mapping a marathon as well
03:00 Incendent: (7 mins)
03:00 Incendent: so
03:00 CrumpetFiddler: 00:38:645 - missed a clear drum beatg
03:00 Incendent: I can't really decline marathons when that's my specialty
03:01 CrumpetFiddler: only marathon map ive done is edm jumpers
03:01 Incendent: Yeah, but the timing for those notes are weird
03:01 CrumpetFiddler: it feels to apparent to miss
03:01 Incendent: I just stuck with a metronomic speed and ignored those sounds
03:02 CrumpetFiddler: 00:44:013 (44013|3) - this ln doesnt make sense
03:02 CrumpetFiddler: make it a single note
03:02 Incendent: I'll see what I can do about those drums though
03:02 Incendent: Symbals
03:02 CrumpetFiddler: 00:43:719 (43719|1) - make that a double probs
03:02 Incendent: that's the LN
03:02 Incendent: A LN that short is for the symbals
03:03 CrumpetFiddler: i dont think its needed
03:03 Incendent: There isn't a loud noise there, I am making snares doubles and bass singles
03:03 Incendent: It's a gimmick for me, I haven't had any issues with the short LN, and I don't see why they shouldn't be there. So I'd have to decline man
03:03 CrumpetFiddler: 00:49:895 (49895|2) - move one col down
03:03 Incendent: :\
03:04 CrumpetFiddler: 00:50:042 (50042|1) - move one col up
03:04 CrumpetFiddler: 00:50:337 (50337|2) - move that one col up to
03:04 Incendent: for the right, left right, left. Correct? I have those a lot of places
03:04 Incendent: Nothing wrong with jacks
03:04 CrumpetFiddler: just so you dont make a jack
03:04 CrumpetFiddler: like jacks are fine
03:05 CrumpetFiddler: but they make no sense there
03:05 Incendent: it's just patern variation, that one is more of a 2 handed trill if anything
03:06 CrumpetFiddler: tbh you cant just force patterns in when they dont make sense
03:06 CrumpetFiddler: makes the song feel weird
03:07 CrumpetFiddler: 00:58:866 (58866|3) - make a double for consistancy
03:07 Incendent: I don't really understand why it doesn't make sense though? It's a LH, RH, LH, RH, LH patern
03:07 CrumpetFiddler: 01:01:219 (61219|0) - same
03:07 CrumpetFiddler: to the beat
03:07 CrumpetFiddler: the pattern itself is okay
03:07 CrumpetFiddler: 01:05:925 (65925|3) - same again
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: 01:08:278 (68278|3) - same
03:08 Incendent: for 00:58 that's a hard one, I want to do that, but I feel like a jack would be very contriversal there. You really think I should do that?
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: 01:10:631 (70631|2) - same
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: one sec
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: lemme list em out then ill go back
03:08 Incendent: 01:01 I can do
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: its not like that
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: you need to either have them all doubles
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: or all singles
03:08 CrumpetFiddler: having some one and some the other is bad practice
03:09 Incendent: LN's make that pretty hard, but I'll figure it out
03:09 CrumpetFiddler: 01:14:307 (74307|3,74307|2) - make a single
03:09 Incendent: made it a single
03:11 CrumpetFiddler: 01:21:807 (81807|2) - im not sure about these lns
03:14 CrumpetFiddler: this
03:14 Incendent: A lot of people actually said that they like the LN's there and in the other verse without me asking about it. So unless I get more complaints, I'll keep it.
03:14 CrumpetFiddler: this doesnt make sense
03:14 CrumpetFiddler: 02:29:895 -
03:14 CrumpetFiddler: its the same beat as before yet youve changed it
03:15 CrumpetFiddler: 02:30:042 (150042|1,150337|0,150631|2,150925|2,151219|0,151513|3,151807|3) - and personally i cant really justify these
03:15 Incendent: yeah, it's just a variation thing, again though, I've had a few people tell me that they liked those LN's
03:15 Incendent: But I see where you are comming from
03:15 CrumpetFiddler: its cool to have variation
03:15 CrumpetFiddler: but its more important to have consistancy
03:15 Incendent: Yeah, true. I'll consider it.
03:16 CrumpetFiddler: 02:49:895 (169895|0) - move that to col 3
03:16 CrumpetFiddler: 02:49:307 (169307|3) - that to col 2
03:16 Incendent: but again, I've been told that they were fine, so If I get more complaints, I'll probably change it
03:16 CrumpetFiddler: 02:50:484 (170484|1) - col 4
03:16 CrumpetFiddler: 02:50:778 (170778|3) - col 2
03:16 CrumpetFiddler: 02:51:954 (171954|0) - col 4
03:16 CrumpetFiddler: 02:52:248 (172248|3) - col 1
03:16 CrumpetFiddler: 02:52:837 (172837|2) - col 2
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 02:53:131 (173131|0) - col 3
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 02:53:719 (173719|0) - col 2
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 02:54:307 (174307|2) - col 4
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 02:54:601 (174601|3) - col 3
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 02:58:425 (178425|2) - col 4
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 02:59:307 (179307|1) - col 4
03:17 Incendent: xD
03:17 Incendent: changed all of those
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 02:59:601 (179601|2) - col 2
03:17 CrumpetFiddler: 03:01:660 (181660|2) - col 1
03:18 CrumpetFiddler: 03:02:837 (182837|0) - col 2
03:18 CrumpetFiddler: 03:03:719 (183719|2) - col 1
03:18 CrumpetFiddler: you get why though
03:18 CrumpetFiddler: right
03:18 Incendent: yeah, I do, singles shouldn't be in the same column twice in a row
03:18 Incendent: that's what you are saying
03:18 CrumpetFiddler: they 'can' but for here no
03:18 Incendent: the LN's are fine, it's just the singles
03:19 Incendent: It makes sense
03:19 CrumpetFiddler: holy shit
03:19 CrumpetFiddler: i dont want to do that again
03:19 CrumpetFiddler: 03:02:837 (182837|0) - check over here
03:19 Incendent: ?
03:19 CrumpetFiddler: you do that alot
03:20 CrumpetFiddler: 03:02:837 (182837|0) -
03:20 CrumpetFiddler: in between those 2 times
03:20 CrumpetFiddler: you do more of the lns
03:20 CrumpetFiddler: just check over them to avoid the 2 single notes in the same column
03:20 CrumpetFiddler: ill be hear till 5am posting every single detail
03:20 Incendent: I changed it already
03:20 Incendent: xD
03:20 CrumpetFiddler: o god
03:21 Incendent: I got it, you are kinda beating a dead horse here.
03:21 CrumpetFiddler: 03:42:395 (222395|2,222469|1,222542|0,222690|0,222837|0,222984|0,223131|1,223131|0,223278|1,223278|0,223425|1,223425|0,223572|1,223572|0,223719|2,223719|1,223719|0,223866|2,223866|1,223866|0,224013|2,224013|1,224013|0,224160|2,224160|1,224160|0,224307|2,224307|3,224307|1,224307|0,224454|1,224454|0,224454|3,224454|2,224601|2,224601|3,224601|0,224601|1,224748|0,224748|1,224748|3,224748|2) - as fun as this is to play
03:21 CrumpetFiddler: i think this is a no no
03:21 Incendent: I don't see why, It's a build up
03:21 Incendent: :\
03:21 CrumpetFiddler: but the jacks eeeeh
03:22 CrumpetFiddler: i dunno, it feels fine and its fun to play but i think other ppl might complain about that one
03:22 Incendent: It makes sense musically speaking though
03:22 Incendent: and people do, but I feel strong enough on this to be stuborn on it xD
03:22 CrumpetFiddler: changed this pattern again (makes sense) but these lns still make no sense
03:23 Incendent: Similar place?
03:23 CrumpetFiddler: the beats changed, more intense
03:23 CrumpetFiddler: its okay for that to be a little different
03:23 CrumpetFiddler: but those lns i hl'd still make no sense
03:23 Incendent: where?
03:23 CrumpetFiddler: o did i not paste it
03:23 CrumpetFiddler: lol
03:23 Incendent: xD
03:23 Incendent: I was very confused
03:23 CrumpetFiddler: 03:51:366 (231366|2,231954|1,232837|1) -
03:23 Incendent: I was still on the jacks
03:24 CrumpetFiddler: the rest is like the intro, so thats fine
03:24 CrumpetFiddler: i think its not to bad
03:24 CrumpetFiddler: just some consistancy issues
03:25 Incendent: Understandable
03:25 CrumpetFiddler: how many maps have you done?
03:25 Incendent: I appreciate the mod.
03:25 Incendent: this one is my 2nd attempt
03:25 CrumpetFiddler: ive made 14 and i still get consistancy issues
03:25 Incendent: I'm working on my 3rd right now
03:25 CrumpetFiddler: so your doing pretty alright XD
03:25 Incendent: xD
03:25 CrumpetFiddler: ill upload this to ur thingy
Topic Starter
Incendent

Emperor of Time wrote:

hello ... M4M Here

Indepence Modding
1|2|3|4

00:05:190 - move to 2 better xD Moved
00:26:366 - move to 1 Kept
00:30:484 - delete one, it's single tap Done
00:30:631 - add 1 note Added a note + 1 on blue
00:32:910 - i hear note in here, add 1 note Fixed
00:35:998 - ^ Uh, what?
00:35:998 - ^Same thing, what?
00:37:616 - ^Sure
00:37:763 - ^No?
00:38:498 - ^Messes up the flow.
00:38:645 - ^^
00:44:013 - add 1 note here beacause finishing No, that's what the short LN is for.
00:49:895 (49895|2) - move to 2If you look at the pattern there, notice that if I did this, it would be Double RH, LH, RH, Double LH, RH,
LH, RH, Double LH. Very repetitive.

00:50:042 (50042|1) - move to 3^
00:51:072 - add 1 note here beacause finishing, i hear cymbal sound. Again, short LN
00:53:425 - ^^
00:55:778 - ^^
01:00:484 - ^^
01:02:837 - ^^
01:05:190 - add 2 note here uh?
01:07:248 - ^I'm no longer mapping cymbals.
01:07:542 -^ ^
01:09:895 - ^I really don't understand why you think it's ok to put 3 notes here at once in a LN section.
01:13:719 (73719|0) - move to 4It's fine there.
01:13:719 (73719|0) - add 1 note to 4 Not necessary here, again. 3 notes in a LN section aren't something I'm a big fan of. Although to be fair, this one is more justifiable then the other one you suggested.
01:17:690 - delete 1 note No
01:18:572 - ^
01:18:866 - ^
01:19:454 - ^
01:19:748 - ^
01:26:219 - ^
01:27:101 - ^
01:27:984 - ^
01:28:866 - ^

01:29:601 - add 1 note Mapping vocals
01:29:895 - add 2 note
01:30:042 - add 1 note[/color]^
01:31:366 - ^I can agree to this.
01:31:954 - ^
01:32:542 - ^
01:33:131 - ^

01:56:145 - ^ Ruins patern
01:56:440 - ^
02:25:042 - delete 1 note
02:25:925 - ^
02:26:807 - ^
02:27:101 - ^
02:27:690 - ^
02:27:984 - ^
02:34:454 - ^
02:35:337 - ^
02:36:219 - ^
02:37:101 - ^

02:45:925 - move to 1 I actually intended those to be jacks because it fit.
02:47:248 (167248|3,167248|1,167248|0,167346|2,167444|1,167542|0,167542|3,167542|2,167640|1,167739|2,167837|3,167837|0,167837|1,167935|2,168033|1,168131|3,168131|0,168131|2,168229|1,168327|2) - please this pattern like this Pic 1Pic 2Pic 3 I'd rather not do that.
03:46:219 - Delete 1 note
03:47:101 - ^
03:47:984 - ^
03:48:278 - ^
03:48:866 - ^
03:49:160 - ^
03:55:631 - ^
03:56:513 - ^
03:57:395 - ^
03:58:278 - ^
04:05:042 - ^
04:05:925 - ^
04:06:807 - ^
04:07:101 - ^
04:07:690 - ^
04:07:984 - ^

04:16:366 - 04:16:440 - 04:16:513 - 04:16:587 - add 1 note Keeping those as rolls.

Good Luck with your map xD
Thanks for the mod! :)

I'll get to your map in a second.
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