1. Legend (6.14 stars, 1762 notes)

pishifat wrote:

u dont put album in the source silly

pishifat wrote:

u dont put album in the source silly
previewpointhitsoundsyeayeayeyayeayyea

02:21:426 (1) -
05:04:758 (1) - timing at these 2 places are pretty broken. causes some wtfsnapping sliders fixed√ timing but no all .nooooooo I like this sliders

SPOILER

do it. it also changes offsets for your current points so ya

00:03:037 (7,1) - not linear with the stream rip fixed√
00:48:715 (2,3) - what are you trying to emphasize with this rhythm? there's nothing that makes the blue tick starting 3 important and the vocals are emphasizing these ticks. normal red/white tick rhythm or something following vocals would be k hummm..mabey I need fixed. but I try this
00:53:206 (2) - snapping is 1/6 tho ur screwed X
01:05:748 (2) - easier to understand that you're following vocals with something like zzz where u click on all vocal points fixed√
01:42:104 (4) - new combo tho do i need to say why fixed√
03:24:744 (4) - when doing these confusing snapping stuff, try to keep clicking on white/red ticks. like this covers the same ticks while still being practical to play fixed√
03:32:917 (2) - similarly like making this 2 1/6repeatsliders would be easier to comprehend this no
03:35:606 (1) - if you're prioritizing the guitar why isnt 03:36:227 - getting anything:( think
04:06:453 (1,1) - silencing tails >>>>>>> fixed√
05:15:267 (2) - if you're gonna use a slider over near-silence, getting a silent sliderslide for just this = a goodidea fixed√

you're using 1/4 stream jumps often, which is okay as a concept, but ur not doing it consistently at all lol
like 01:51:511 (4,1) - vs 00:57:274 (4,1) - vs 02:02:359 (4,1) -
04:47:047 (8,1) - vs 01:58:291 (4,1) -
02:02:020 (12,1) - vs 04:39:928 (4,5) -
01:44:732 (8,1) - vs 00:50:494 (10,1) -
01:46:087 (8,1) - vs 00:51:850 (16,1) -
and so on. larger spacing on both or neither is how2streamjumplogic

I can try

我不会说中国话

TheKingHenry wrote:

Pretty sure the name is DragonForce not Dragonforce so I suggest you change it even tho we have this.
Also add some tags? If you can't figure out anything, take the relevant ones from the already ranked sets

pishifat wrote:

u dont put album in the source silly

could atleast add that to the tags then or smth

1. 00:13:121 (2,3) - maybe space this out a bit? Feels too close when playing it
2. 00:18:037 (5) - I think if you remove NC here and put it in 00:18:884 (1) - it helps reading greatly
3. 00:43:799 (8) - Mute slider end?
4. 00:53:291 (1) - ^
5. 00:56:003 (1) - This is the first spaced stream so maybe reduce the gap a bit? To prepare the player for
   future ones
6. 01:01:257 (2) - ctrl+g?
7. 01:01:681 (4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like this would look and play better if it curved upwards
   
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8. 01:02:443 (2,3) - Consider this shape, I think it fits better
   img

   
9. 01:02:782 (1,5,1) - hitsound these with a drum?
10. 01:04:138 (1,3,7,1) - ^
11. 01:17:189 (8,1,2) - Maybe consider ctrl+G on these, it would be much more fun to play imo
    
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12. 01:20:918 (6) - move this upwards a bit?
13. 01:21:596 (6) - ctrl+G?
14. 01:22:613 (8,1,2) - again, ctrl+G in each one of these is more fun to play and flows better
    
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15. 01:24:477 (1) - ctrl+G
16. 01:25:155 (2) - ^ flow better
17. 01:51:087 (2) - move this to the left? plays a bit better
18. 01:58:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe make the curve wider for visual purposes
    
    img

    
19. 02:00:240 (3) - This is not wrong but feel a bit awkward to suddenly stop there and jump into a stream
20. 02:16:003 (1,1) - Mute slider ends?
21. 02:06:511 (1) - This part is amazing
22. 03:06:951 - skipped a beat?
23. 03:35:606 (1) - the slider end has a hitfinish that doesn't really fit on the last bounce
24. 03:52:987 (1) - maybe mute slider end?
25. 04:03:742 (1) - ^
26. 04:56:369 (2,3,4) - fix the spacing inconsistency? for the visuals

23konG wrote:

from m4m request
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1. 总体上感觉不错,不过有些细节方面做得还不够好,希望能多修改一下
   
2. 开头的clap有点太响了,建议换一个轻一点的
   
3. 00:01:087 (3) - 这个为什么不和1平行啊,感觉平行更好看一点而且后面的连打也是一样的角度
   
4. 00:04:986 (4) - 我觉得这个往右下偏更好些 00:06:342 (4) - 同理往左上偏
   
5. 00:07:189 (1,2) - 这两个角度有点大
   
6. 00:10:918 (2) - 不明白这个为什么要单独拉出来,跟之前的三个一样就行啊
   
7. 00:12:613 (1) - 改成一个z字型的滑条如何?
   图

   
8. 00:13:460 (4) - 改成一个弯滑条把2包上 00:16:003 (3) - 同理
   
9. 00:18:884 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - 有点难看,改成直的怎么样
   
10. 00:21:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 你听这里音调在不断变低,但是你间距越来越大是什么鬼...
    
11. 00:24:308 (8,9,10,11) - 这样的梗我觉得要么保持DS不变要么就把间距拉开以示区别 00:29:562 (1,2,3,4,5) - 同理 01:52:274 (1,2,3,4) - 同理
    
12. 00:26:172 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - 好挤啊.. 拉开一点
    
13. 00:38:376 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这个梗里两个滑条可以对称啊..
    
14. 00:43:799 (8) - NC 而且这个弄成弯的更好一些
    
15. 00:45:664 (2,3) - 我觉得这俩分别Ctrl+G flow更好一些
    
16. 00:48:969 (3) - 直接放到2和连打头中间吧..
    
17. 00:56:003 (1) - 想强调这个的话应该再放远一点
    
18. 00:56:681 (9,1,2,3,4) - 这里强调的重音不对,你仔细听人声的下一个高潮应该是00:57:359 (1) - ,所以它才是应该分开的note,00:56:681 (9,1,2,3,4) - 仍然属于上一段所以不应该分开
    
19. 00:58:460 - 这里没理由空着啊,你把00:58:037 (8) - 改成和9一样的折返再把9后移一格就好了
    
20. 01:02:104 (1) - 这个折返跟前面连打的衔接不好,我是这样摆的
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    同理还有01:03:460 (1) - (可以和2对称), 01:15:664 (9) - 01:38:037 (1) - 01:40:410 (1) - 01:47:189 (9) - 01:59:393 (1) - 02:00:918 (7) - 02:09:054 (11) - 02:10:240 (13) - 等等等等我就不再举例了
    
21. 01:05:494 (1) - 这个和01:04:816 (1,3) - 间距一样,但你把滑条反了过来,这样打起来会很突然(毕竟是4分滑条组只看头的)
    
22. 01:08:884 (1,2) - 角度有点大,再竖一点就好了 01:59:732 (1,2) - 同理
    
23. 01:10:240 (1) - 你看你都加NC了说明这里已经是下一段了为什么还要和前面摆在一起呢
    
24. 01:12:782 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 摆的再圆滑一点
    
25. 01:13:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这个..与其包滑条尾还不如包01:13:545 (4) - ,而且这个圆缺乏诚意啊,用圆滑条转连打更美观,而且01:14:308 (9) - 也存在和前面衔接不好的问题
    
26. 01:16:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - 这里问题很大,首先音乐上是8个4分拍一组的形式,而你却在01:16:681 (5,6,7,8) - 使用了同一个梗,这样完全不合曲 我打这一段的时候完全是莫名其妙, 01:16:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这些才应该使用一样的梗,要么都连打要么都4分滑条 而且01:17:020 (7) - 这里要加NC加以区分 后面类似的梗都有这样的问题
    
27. 01:44:138 (1,1) - 间距可以再大些 01:46:172 (1) - 也是
    
28. 01:58:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 不好看,圆滑一些
    
29. 02:02:104 (1,2,3,4) - 没必要拉出来,虽然是高音但是重点在02:02:443 (1) - 所以和前面接上就行,也不需要NC 这个地方保留看法 或许会改
    
30. 02:04:477 (1,2,3,4,1) - 前面摆的挺好的怎么就崩了呢
    
31. 02:10:579 (1) - 你看这样行不行
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32. 02:24:477 (1) - 最后那段能和前面包一下就好了
    
33. 02:50:089 (4,1) - 包
    
34. 03:13:675 (2) - 和1对称就好了啊
    
35. 03:17:399 (1,2) - 这两个弄成左右对称不行吗
    
36. 03:19:054 (1,2) - 这两个中心对称
    
37. 03:23:606 (1,2,3,4) - 我只听到了一个长音没有4分音
    
38. 03:35:606 (1) - 少折返一次
    
39. 03:43:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 不直
    
40. 03:45:951 (2,3) - 对称 (你怎么这么不愿意用对称,明明省事又好看...)
    
41. 03:52:987 (1,2) -
    图

    
    后面的flow相应改一改
    
42. 03:59:606 (1) - 这种滑条在中间加一个红点的话会更好看
    图

    
43. 04:06:453 (1,1) - 没包好而且不好看,建议重新拉一下
    我拉的

    
44. 04:11:877 (1) - 往下一些flow更好
    
45. 04:18:996 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 不好看啊
    图

    
    而且04:18:657 (5) - 应该少折返一次
    
46. 04:29:504 (1) - 更平滑一些
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47. 04:30:182 (2) - 横过来更好
    
48. 04:32:894 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 圆弧
    
49. 04:37:640 (1) - 这个没完全对称啊,仔细调一调
    
50. 04:54:928 (1) - 连打应该从04:55:267 (5) - 开始
    
51. 04:56:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 拉远一点,而且也不好看
    
52. 05:02:047 (1) - 远一点
    
53. 05:06:879 (1) - 改成直的更好啊
    
54. 05:15:281 (2) -
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    回头一看摸了一整篇nazi..
    
    大部分还行,送个星,good luck

T-Mac wrote:

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cs5

滑条静音

00:22:104 - 这种地方50%音量明显不够

01:24:477 (1,2) - 换成1/4串或者滑条，不要这种

01:52:274 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这地方有点难读，01:52:274 (1,2) - 01:52:528 (3,4) - 这两个拉开点会好一点

02:21:426 (1,1) - 这两个滑条有碰到一起的地方，看上去感觉有点恶心

03:19:054 (1,2) - 换成1/2单点

03:26:089 (3) - 这里可以换成1/3单点或者1/3折返滑条

03:27:330 (1) - 这地方挺建议1/6折返滑条的不过145的1/6好像也还可以

03:30:123 - 感觉还是填上好，03:29:813 (5) - 这个可能要改一改，试试看2个圈1个滑条

03:36:020 - 换成圈，前后放成两个滑条

04:03:911 (1) - 感觉这个转盘你可以拼命往里面塞1/4折返滑条，04:06:453 (1,1) - 这里也是

05:10:185 (1) - 换成转盘，05:15:009 - 这里改成圈

最后那段kiai，串的音量还是太小

09kami wrote:

回复了半个小时发表失败404.... 算了 虽然你摸了非常非常非常非常长的一篇摸 但基本都是主观的论文摸 我只有一个地方是大概同意改的 但那个地方我还需要考证下 很多地方我不知道你让我修改 但有没有验证过 许多让我改的地方都在我以前的作图经历里遇到过的 但修改后会让这张图变得非常非常糟糕 首先是连打后接的滑条段 就算NC是重新起音 你考虑过那个地方拉远后玩家打的感受吗 我自己打时会问这他妈是什么玩意 还有关于对称 对称不要仅仅纠结于点对称和轴对称这两个最最基本的对称上 任何同一个滑条复制粘贴 然后旋转得到的滑条 同前面的滑条都是对称的 只不过对称的方向不同 正是因为千篇一律的对称 才让现在的RANK图出现了千篇一律的轴点对称 三角跳 很多PP麻婆就是这样 考虑怎么最简单与顺手去满足玩家的手感 然后12天一张屎图就出狱了 但你也不能去反驳那张图 因为都符合RANK规则 而在这些麻婆里走出PP圈建立自己的风格的人少之又少 相反的 像HW这种走猎奇方向的反而能激起更多人的兴趣 虽然这条路很难走下去 你是愿意12天RANK一张2年都没有20Wplay次数的垃圾图 还是愿意12个月RANK一张12天就超过20Wplay的神图

23konG wrote:

09kami wrote:

回复了半个小时发表失败404.... 算了 虽然你摸了非常非常非常非常长的一篇摸 但基本都是主观的论文摸 我只有一个地方是大概同意改的 但那个地方我还需要考证下 很多地方我不知道你让我修改 但有没有验证过 许多让我改的地方都在我以前的作图经历里遇到过的 但修改后会让这张图变得非常非常糟糕 首先是连打后接的滑条段 就算NC是重新起音 你考虑过那个地方拉远后玩家打的感受吗 我自己打时会问这他妈是什么玩意 还有关于对称 对称不要仅仅纠结于点对称和轴对称这两个最最基本的对称上 任何同一个滑条复制粘贴 然后旋转得到的滑条 同前面的滑条都是对称的 只不过对称的方向不同 正是因为千篇一律的对称 才让现在的RANK图出现了千篇一律的轴点对称 三角跳 很多PP麻婆就是这样 考虑怎么最简单与顺手去满足玩家的手感 然后12天一张屎图就出狱了 但你也不能去反驳那张图 因为都符合RANK规则 而在这些麻婆里走出PP圈建立自己的风格的人少之又少 相反的 像HW这种走猎奇方向的反而能激起更多人的兴趣 虽然这条路很难走下去 你是愿意12天RANK一张2年都没有20Wplay次数的垃圾图 还是愿意12个月RANK一张12天就超过20Wplay的神图

额，摸图这个东西不就是互相提意见吗，至于接不接受感觉也没什么啊...
关于滑条拉远的问题，我只能说这张图我真的打了，也是真的觉得那个地方很奇怪，所以就提出来了，至于你接不接受我是管不了的。
关于对称的问题，我只是指出了几个点而已，大部分的地方还是很好的啊，摸长的原因是因为这张图本身非常长啊...还有对称不一定是垃圾梗，请不要有偏见的对待。虽然很多千篇一律的pp都会滥用这些梗但是不代表就要一棍子打死，就要划清界限...具体请参考fanzhen0019的对称。
另外走猎奇路线也不代表细节方面就能够忽略，HW的图我也很喜欢，我一共19个fav就有两张HW的图，但是她每一个细节都可以说是完美无缺。就拿源流怀古来说，开了EZ或者AR改低之后可以看出来不论是串的流畅性，还是美观性，还是flow blanket这些最基本的东西都无可挑剔。有些东西不是一个猎奇，神图就能一笔带过的。在满足足够的创新性和可玩性的同时，最基本的美观也要考虑，这样才是神图。
摸个图而已这么冲干嘛...

Painketsu wrote:

Hi! m4m

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1. 00:13:121 (2,3) - maybe space this out a bit? Feels too close when playing it mabey no?
   
2. 00:18:037 (5) - I think if you remove NC here and put it in 00:18:884 (1) - it helps reading greatly fixed√
3. 00:43:799 (8) - Mute slider end? fixed√
4. 00:53:291 (1) - ^ fixed√
5. 00:56:003 (1) - This is the first spaced stream so maybe reduce the gap a bit? To prepare the player for fixed√
   future ones
6. 01:01:257 (2) - ctrl+g? no
7. 01:01:681 (4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like this would look and play better if it curved upwards fixed√
   
   img

   
8. 01:02:443 (2,3) - Consider this shape, I think it fits better no
   img

   
9. 01:02:782 (1,5,1) - hitsound these with a drum? fixed√
10. 01:04:138 (1,3,7,1) - ^ fixed√
11. 01:17:189 (8,1,2) - Maybe consider ctrl+G on these, it would be much more fun to play imo
    
    img

    
12. 01:20:918 (6) - move this upwards a bit? no
13. 01:21:596 (6) - ctrl+G? fixed√
14. 01:22:613 (8,1,2) - again, ctrl+G in each one of these is more fun to play and flows better no
    
    img

    
15. 01:24:477 (1) - ctrl+G no
16. 01:25:155 (2) - ^ flow better no
17. 01:51:087 (2) - move this to the left? plays a bit better fixed√
18. 01:58:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe make the curve wider for visual purposes no
    
    img

    
19. 02:00:240 (3) - This is not wrong but feel a bit awkward to suddenly stop there and jump into a stream fixed√
20. 02:16:003 (1,1) - Mute slider ends? no
21. 02:06:511 (1) - This part is amazing lol
22. 03:06:951 - skipped a beat? no
23. 03:35:606 (1) - the slider end has a hitfinish that doesn't really fit on the last bounce fixed√
24. 03:52:987 (1) - maybe mute slider end? no
25. 04:03:742 (1) - ^ no
26. 04:56:369 (2,3,4) - fix the spacing inconsistency? for the visuals no

Really nice map, good luck!