1. Inversion (5.8 stars, 1962 notes)

YIIII wrote:

Nice to mod your map. It's a nice song. I like it. :3 So do I :O
Here is my mod.

Mod

[General]

1. Check your AiMod. Your kiai time is more than 1/3 of the song. I'll try and find a way to reduce it. No garuntees.
2. File size exceeds 10 MB without video. It's fine. Many maps do this also.
3. About the difficulty name. How about use Counter-Clock World Will keep in mind. Maybe Counter-Clockwise? Choosing a difficulty name is the hardest part of mapping Q_Q

[Counter-Clock World]

1. 00:38:611 (1) - I have no idea why you place 1/4 beat kiai here. How about remove it? Ye ask and ye shall receive.
2. 00:41:043 (4,5) - How about use a back and forth slider, it will make the rhythm much more clear.
   00:41:367 (6,7) - 00:42:340 (3,4) - 00:43:638 (4,5) - 00:43:962 (6,7) - same these These are good ideas and can help to make the map easier. Will think about it.
3. 00:53:854 (3) - Remove this circle. Why? It follows the rhythm of the song perfectly.
   00:54:016 (4) - Remove this slider and add 2 sliders
   start at 00:53:854 end at 00:54:016
   start at 00:54:178 end at 00:54:340
   Because the music sounds it can put 2 sliders here. Sounds fine to me.
4. 00:55:475 (1,1,1) - How about align with the next slider? like this, It can make it easier to see. Done
5. 01:01:313 (1,2,3,4) - How about use a longer distance? Because it looks like still in the last stream. Done.
6. 01:02:610 (1,2,3) - Circles were not be snapped. ?? They were I believe.
7. 01:41:773 (2,3) - How about place like this. They are not be blanked and easier to see.I think they are more neat.
   01:43:070 (2,3) - same here, place like this.
   btw If you want to change it, it's better to change all of them:
   01:46:962 (2,3) - ^
   01:50:854 (2,3) - ^
   01:53:448 (2,3) - ^
   02:03:827 (2,3) - ^
   02:40:151 (2,3) - ^
   02:41:448 (2,3) - ^
   02:42:746 (2,3) - ^
   02:48:583 (4,5) - ^
   02:50:854 (3,4) - ^
   02:54:421 (2,3) - ^
   03:08:692 (2,3) - ^
   04:10:313 (4,5) - ^
   04:40:150 (2,3) - ^
   04:43:069 (2,3) - ^
   04:47:934 (2,3) - ^
   05:24:907 (8,1) - ^
   05:35:286 (2,3) - ^
   05:37:880 (2,3) - ^
   05:40:475 (2,3) - ^
   05:43:069 (2,3) - ^
   If you don't wanna change them it's fine. :p Yeah, I'm not going to change it. I made it so that each each streams leads to the next note.
8. 01:56:448 (6) - This note should not add a clap sound.
   Because there are five fast triple taps here. I mess them when the first time i played your map.
   Just A Clap Sound? It might be weird for you, but it's also weird for me. XD Sounds fine to me.
   01:59:043 (6) - ^ ^
9. 02:00:259 (2,1) - Better not stack. Did you want me to stack? Because if you did I did.
10. 02:09:665 (8) - Remove this note and longthen last slider to here.
    Because in the music, electric guitar sound is end here.
    02:09:908 (1) - Shorten this slider, start at 02:10:070.
    Add note at 02:09:908 and 02:09:989 . I'm sorry but I'm not going to do this because I am following the base guitar and not the electric guitar. I see what you're saying, but it doesn't fit what I am following.
    The bold above is because I want the notes follow the music. It might be the best part in this mod. Please try it.\(^o^)/
11. 02:10:313 (2,3,4,5) - Slider is better not blank circles. No change.
12. 03:45:665 (9,10) - This slider is very easy to get 100. Maybe change it to circles are better. ?? These are circles.
13. 04:40:232 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - That triple tap jumps are hard. How about make them closer? I feel it fits the intensity of the song
14. 05:08:286 (4) - Well this is weird. How about use 1/4 beat? It's fine. There's a really fast drum roll at this beat.
15. 05:19:718 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - OMG CAN'T SEE ANY THING. IT'S TOO HARD!! It's better to make them easier. LOL I was so lazy towards the end of the song. Fixed.

shadow_neko wrote:

Hi from your modding queue m4m ) (im not an experienced modder btw) Neither Am I. Only 6 mods so far.

00:38:611 (1) - this looks nicer no? -> http://prntscr.com/8iati0 Completely agree. Changed.
00:48:178 (1) - this slider shape is weird but maybe its just me Looked like an ass. Fixed.
00:49:800 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - this part is very compact and shaped very weirdly do change it (readability affected) Fixed.
01:00:826 (5,6) - doesnt flow along well? Fixed.
01:02:610 (1,2,3) - pls space this properly and why not straighten it It's spaced out correctly and looks fine to me.
01:03:097 (1,2,3) - straighten this too? things look neater as well ^
01:06:178 (9,10) - the space between here is quite misleading people might intuitively think its a half beat tap rather than stream
01:06:989 (1,2) - ^
01:07:638 (1,2) - ^(ok maybe its just me but of coz its up to you since youre the mapper and im just giving opinions ) Yeah, I don't see any problems here. No change.
01:08:773 (3) - slider shape Fixed.
01:14:935 (8,9) - i feel that changing their order like as in putting the 9 before the 8 and then ctrl+g both of them flows better Yep. Changed.
01:15:583 (1,2) - the spacing problem as well Fixed
01:16:556 (6,7) - ^ A little closer.
01:19:151 (5,1) - ^ Seems fine.
01:19:962 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:20:610 (5,6) - ^ A little closer.
01:21:016 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - im not sure whether u can map that low the screen :/ Moved a little higher in conjunction with your last point.
01:23:205 (6,7) - spacing Moved a little closer.
01:26:448 (9,10,1,2,3) - the flow here is bad Stream stacked and (2) moved.
01:29:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - messy jumps Fixed
01:40:475 (2,3) - why place it like that? why not flow with the slider
01:40:719 (4,5,6,7,8) - compact and hard to read but i guess thats barely acceptably compact but the flow?? maybe can make the slider point towards the next hit Slider pointing towards the stream.
01:43:070 (2,3) - why place it like that?
01:43:962 (9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - messy i feel Fixed
01:46:962 (2,3) - ok at this point i kind of get why u place it like that but its really messy to look at especially when its used a few times in the map? why not place it sth like this http://prntscr.com/8ib0jc (i guess ill stop talking about this problem now coz its really up to you) Yeah, I place it like this because I want it to lead towards the next note, but it song doesn't sound like it has the justification to space it.
01:49:800 (4) - overmapped coz theres only 1/4 beats in the song Fixed
01:56:043 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - really hard to read if youre gonna do this do space it out more so its easier to read and the last 3 taps doesnt even follow the flow?? Fixed
02:00:259 (2,1) - its like theres a stop in the streams pls space accordingly to the streams
02:01:313 (3,4) - this is really quite unacceptable (and ill stop talking about spacing too) I feel like this works here fine because of the intensity of the song. But I did make them all spaced by two.
02:08:448 (1) - why nc Good question.
02:10:313 (2,3,4,5) - bad flow from previous slider Feels Fine.
02:12:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ?? inconsistent pattern Fixed
02:18:502 (6,7,8,9) - misleading and inconsistent spacing Square now.
02:37:475 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - weird flow and shape Fixed, hopefully.
02:38:610 (1) - slider shape Fixed a little.
02:54:665 (4) - while i feel its overmapped at the same time i seem to be picking sth up from the music but idk i tried very hard to listen but i still cant be sure(do confirm with other modders) I think I'm correct with this one. No change.
03:08:286 (1) - ???? slider shape Fixed.
03:13:638 (1,1,1) - spacing really misleading (what i suggest is spacing the 1 beat taps while u jump the 1/2 beats
03:16:232 (1,1) - ^ because that way at least theres a consistent patter behind
03:16:719 (1,1) - ^
03:18:827 (1,1) - ^
03:19:313 (1,1) - ^
03:19:475 (1) - why not just http://prntscr.com/8ib61u
03:20:286 (1,1) - spacing(kk i wont talk about it anymore im sure u can sieve it out yourself if you decide to change coz it seems youre using it a lot) No change for any of those. I don't see a problem.
03:31:962 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - one thing is the jump streams but i guess its acceptable but more imptly the sliders are overlapping so why not space it out a little? btw nice flow No change. Thank You
03:34:070 (1) - see this is a nice slider Thank you!
03:47:043 (4) - dont stack it directly under space a little Spaced 0.2 Kappa.
03:47:692 (6) - ^ ^
03:56:448 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh hey the flow here is quite fun Thanks!
04:02:935 (1) - pls fix especially the bottom part where theres some awkward contours Will wait for other mods opinions.
04:05:448 (12,1,2) - ?? flow??? Fixed the entire stream hopefully.
04:14:205 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - wow im not sure whether this is rankable but hey i like it Thanks again! Let's hope this slips by BNs.
04:19:583 (6,7) - misleading since its spaced out so much while your previous non stream jumps are equally spaced ?? I see no problem with this.
04:48:664 (1,2) - spacing but wow this kiai section was done very well Stacked and spaced by two and thank you!
04:49:637 (1,2) - ^ ^
04:49:961 (3,4) - ^ oh yes i wont talk about it anymore but im sorry i had to point it out coz these are really the things that forced the difficulty out ^
05:02:934 (5,6) - im sorry but... ^ this is really misleading I think it's fine.
05:14:529 (2) - dont place directly under Spaced by 0.2 Kappa.
05:19:718 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - ok this has to be fixed very unreadable LOL I fixed this in the last mod. I got so lazy.
05:34:394 (2,1) - nice move but not blanketed well Hopefully fixed now.
05:39:745 (5,6) - nvm might as well point it out since im finishing :< spacing Moved closer.
05:45:259 (1,2) - ^ you know this wouldnt be a problem if it isnt this far apart so if you insist on doing this pls reduce the gap I think it fits the intensity of this segment.
05:50:448 (1,2) - ok the flow is good and all and its barely acceptable i guess its ok but if you wanna improve it make it closer ^
05:53:042 (1) - ooh cool slider :D
05:55:637 (1) - ok i guess its fun and all the make it this way but lik its misleading coz the previous one wasnt even this far and the sudden increment in spacing might lead players to think its a tap one beat apart? Moved a little closer.

general comments and thoughts

-overall its quite messy
-do check on slider shapes, spacing and flow Will do.
-there are some nice sliders so maybe u should try to keep up the good work?? (for eg 02:44:935 (1) ) looks really smooth and neat :D
-some of the spacing leads me to think the difficulty was quite forced? to prevent this you should just map however u deem fit and whatever difficulty the map is at the end of it so be it since yours is a 5 minute map requiring only 1 difficulty so you dont have to control the difficulty. Like some of the spaced streams are overused and forced Yeah. I kinda speed mapped half of this song on Friday.
-there are some nice flows too like the alternating direction short sliders so do follow Ok
-oh btw the difficulty name hmmmm sunken???? idk coz like the song title is sinking and like the past tense of sinking Why are names so difficult to create? D:
-and of coz pls feel free to disagree with me because most of it is just my opinion other than overmapping and unreadability which is unrankable
-ps it seems you know of other people mapping this same song pst you can refer to theirs :D::D:D and i noticed one of them actually does have streams places apart from sliders but you know whats the difference? theirs is consistent throughout the song and they make it such that its need so ya if you really wanna do the same ensure the consistency and neatness(pm me in game if you wanna know which map im referring to so you can reference ))

maxandcheese wrote:

YIIII wrote:

Nice to mod your map. It's a nice song. I like it. :3 So do I :O
Here is my mod.

Mod

[General]

1. Check your AiMod. Your kiai time is more than 1/3 of the song. I'll try and find a way to reduce it. No garuntees.
2. File size exceeds 10 MB without video. It's fine. Many maps do this also.
3. About the difficulty name. How about use Counter-Clock World Will keep in mind. Maybe Counter-Clockwise? Choosing a difficulty name is the hardest part of mapping Q_Q

[Counter-Clock World]

1. 00:38:611 (1) - I have no idea why you place 1/4 beat kiai here. How about remove it? Ye ask and ye shall receive.
2. 00:41:043 (4,5) - How about use a back and forth slider, it will make the rhythm much more clear.
   00:41:367 (6,7) - 00:42:340 (3,4) - 00:43:638 (4,5) - 00:43:962 (6,7) - same these These are good ideas and can help to make the map easier. Will think about it.
3. This00:53:854 (3) - Remove this circle. Why? It follows the rhythm of the song perfectly. This circle is fine But
   is00:54:016 (4) - Remove this slider and add 2 sliders 00:54:016 (4) - This slider is not on the right rhythm. It's on a
   astart at 00:53:854 end at 00:54:016 short red line. Slider is better to start at a Heavy syllable(white line)
   wholestart at 00:54:178 end at 00:54:340 So I suggested replace 00:53:854 (3) and 00:54:016 (4) to two sliders
   problemBecause the music sounds it can put 2 sliders here. Sounds fine to me.
4. 00:55:475 (1,1,1) - How about align with the next slider? like this, It can make it easier to see. Done
5. 01:01:313 (1,2,3,4) - How about use a longer distance? Because it looks like still in the last stream. Done.
6. 01:02:610 (1,2,3) - Circles were not be snapped. ?? They were I believe.
   They are not in a same distance. I don't know if I can use 'snap' to mean 'same distance'. My English is not that good. xD
7. 01:41:773 (2,3) - How about place like this. They are not be blanked and easier to see.I think they are more neat.
   01:43:070 (2,3) - same here, place like this.
   btw If you want to change it, it's better to change all of them:
   01:46:962 (2,3) - ^
   01:50:854 (2,3) - ^
   01:53:448 (2,3) - ^
   02:03:827 (2,3) - ^
   02:40:151 (2,3) - ^
   02:41:448 (2,3) - ^
   02:42:746 (2,3) - ^
   02:48:583 (4,5) - ^
   02:50:854 (3,4) - ^
   02:54:421 (2,3) - ^
   03:08:692 (2,3) - ^
   04:10:313 (4,5) - ^
   04:40:150 (2,3) - ^
   04:43:069 (2,3) - ^
   04:47:934 (2,3) - ^
   05:24:907 (8,1) - ^
   05:35:286 (2,3) - ^
   05:37:880 (2,3) - ^
   05:40:475 (2,3) - ^
   05:43:069 (2,3) - ^
   If you don't wanna change them it's fine. :p Yeah, I'm not going to change it. I made it so that each each streams leads to the next note.
8. 01:56:448 (6) - This note should not add a clap sound.
   Because there are five fast triple taps here. I mess them when the first time i played your map.
   Just A Clap Sound? It might be weird for you, but it's also weird for me. XD Sounds fine to me.
   01:59:043 (6) - ^ ^
9. 02:00:259 (2,1) - Better not stack. Did you want me to stack? Because if you did I did. I mean don't stack them. lol they are hard to ready.
10. 02:09:665 (8) - Remove this note and longthen last slider to here.
    Because in the music, electric guitar sound is end here.
    02:09:908 (1) - Shorten this slider, start at 02:10:070.
    Add note at 02:09:908 and 02:09:989 . I'm sorry but I'm not going to do this because I am following the base guitar and not the electric guitar. I see what you're saying, but it doesn't fit what I am following. well it's fine. xD
    The bold above is because I want the notes follow the music. It might be the best part in this mod. Please try it.\(^o^)/
11. 02:10:313 (2,3,4,5) - Slider is better not blank circles. No change.
12. 03:45:665 (9,10) - This slider is very easy to get 100. Maybe change it to circles are better. ?? These are circles. I'm sorry for the mistake. 04:05:529 (1) - This slider. How about make it conform the stream, or replace it to two circles?
13. 04:40:232 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - That triple tap jumps are hard. How about make them closer? I feel it fits the intensity of the song
14. 05:08:286 (4) - Well this is weird. How about use 1/4 beat? It's fine. There's a really fast drum roll at this beat.
15. 05:19:718 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - OMG CAN'T SEE ANY THING. IT'S TOO HARD!! It's better to make them easier. LOL I was so lazy towards the end of the song. Fixed.

Thank you for the mod! o/
Thank you for replying me! o/

YIIII wrote:

YIIII wrote:

Nice to mod your map. It's a nice song. I like it. :3 So do I :O
Here is my mod.

Mod

[General]

1. Check your AiMod. Your kiai time is more than 1/3 of the song. I'll try and find a way to reduce it. No garuntees.
2. File size exceeds 10 MB without video. It's fine. Many maps do this also.
3. About the difficulty name. How about use Counter-Clock World Will keep in mind. Maybe Counter-Clockwise? Choosing a difficulty name is the hardest part of mapping Q_Q

[Counter-Clock World]

1. 00:38:611 (1) - I have no idea why you place 1/4 beat kiai here. How about remove it? Ye ask and ye shall receive.
2. 00:41:043 (4,5) - How about use a back and forth slider, it will make the rhythm much more clear.
   00:41:367 (6,7) - 00:42:340 (3,4) - 00:43:638 (4,5) - 00:43:962 (6,7) - same these These are good ideas and can help to make the map easier. Will think about it.
3. This00:53:854 (3) - Remove this circle. Why? It follows the rhythm of the song perfectly. This circle is fine But
   is00:54:016 (4) - Remove this slider and add 2 sliders 00:54:016 (4) - This slider is not on the right rhythm. It's on a
   astart at 00:53:854 end at 00:54:016 short red line. Slider is better to start at a Heavy syllable(white line)
   wholestart at 00:54:178 end at 00:54:340 So I suggested replace 00:53:854 (3) and 00:54:016 (4) to two sliders
   problemBecause the music sounds it can put 2 sliders here. Sounds fine to me.
4. 00:55:475 (1,1,1) - How about align with the next slider? like this, It can make it easier to see. Done
5. 01:01:313 (1,2,3,4) - How about use a longer distance? Because it looks like still in the last stream. Done.
6. 01:02:610 (1,2,3) - Circles were not be snapped. ?? They were I believe.
   They are not in a same distance. I don't know if I can use 'snap' to mean 'same distance'. My English is not that good. xD
7. 01:41:773 (2,3) - How about place like this. They are not be blanked and easier to see.I think they are more neat.
   01:43:070 (2,3) - same here, place like this.
   btw If you want to change it, it's better to change all of them:
   01:46:962 (2,3) - ^
   01:50:854 (2,3) - ^
   01:53:448 (2,3) - ^
   02:03:827 (2,3) - ^
   02:40:151 (2,3) - ^
   02:41:448 (2,3) - ^
   02:42:746 (2,3) - ^
   02:48:583 (4,5) - ^
   02:50:854 (3,4) - ^
   02:54:421 (2,3) - ^
   03:08:692 (2,3) - ^
   04:10:313 (4,5) - ^
   04:40:150 (2,3) - ^
   04:43:069 (2,3) - ^
   04:47:934 (2,3) - ^
   05:24:907 (8,1) - ^
   05:35:286 (2,3) - ^
   05:37:880 (2,3) - ^
   05:40:475 (2,3) - ^
   05:43:069 (2,3) - ^
   If you don't wanna change them it's fine. :p Yeah, I'm not going to change it. I made it so that each each streams leads to the next note.
8. 01:56:448 (6) - This note should not add a clap sound.
   Because there are five fast triple taps here. I mess them when the first time i played your map.
   Just A Clap Sound? It might be weird for you, but it's also weird for me. XD Sounds fine to me.
   01:59:043 (6) - ^ ^
9. 02:00:259 (2,1) - Better not stack. Did you want me to stack? Because if you did I did. I mean don't stack them. lol they are hard to ready.
10. 02:09:665 (8) - Remove this note and longthen last slider to here.
    Because in the music, electric guitar sound is end here.
    02:09:908 (1) - Shorten this slider, start at 02:10:070.
    Add note at 02:09:908 and 02:09:989 . I'm sorry but I'm not going to do this because I am following the base guitar and not the electric guitar. I see what you're saying, but it doesn't fit what I am following. well it's fine. xD
    The bold above is because I want the notes follow the music. It might be the best part in this mod. Please try it.\(^o^)/
11. 02:10:313 (2,3,4,5) - Slider is better not blank circles. No change.
12. 03:45:665 (9,10) - This slider is very easy to get 100. Maybe change it to circles are better. ?? These are circles. I'm sorry for the mistake. 04:05:529 (1) - This slider. How about make it conform the stream, or replace it to two circles?
13. 04:40:232 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - That triple tap jumps are hard. How about make them closer? I feel it fits the intensity of the song
14. 05:08:286 (4) - Well this is weird. How about use 1/4 beat? It's fine. There's a really fast drum roll at this beat.
15. 05:19:718 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - OMG CAN'T SEE ANY THING. IT'S TOO HARD!! It's better to make them easier. LOL I was so lazy towards the end of the song. Fixed.

What I Changed

1. 01:02:610 (1,2,3) - Hopefully they're spaced the same now.
2. 02:00:259 (2,1) - Unstacked.
3. 04:05:529 (1) - I will see what other mods will say about this.

Thank you for the mod! o/
Thank you for replying me! o/
Thank you for replying to my reply! o/

maxandcheese wrote:

shadow_neko wrote:

Hi from your modding queue m4m ) (im not an experienced modder btw) Neither Am I. Only 6 mods so far.

00:38:611 (1) - this looks nicer no? -> http://prntscr.com/8iati0 Completely agree. Changed.
00:48:178 (1) - this slider shape is weird but maybe its just me Looked like an ass. Fixed.
00:49:800 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - this part is very compact and shaped very weirdly do change it (readability affected) Fixed.
01:00:826 (5,6) - doesnt flow along well? Fixed.
01:02:610 (1,2,3) - pls space this properly and why not straighten it It's spaced out correctly and looks fine to me.
01:03:097 (1,2,3) - straighten this too? things look neater as well ^
01:06:178 (9,10) - the space between here is quite misleading people might intuitively think its a half beat tap rather than stream
01:06:989 (1,2) - ^
01:07:638 (1,2) - ^(ok maybe its just me but of coz its up to you since youre the mapper and im just giving opinions ) Yeah, I don't see any problems here. No change.
01:08:773 (3) - slider shape Fixed.
01:14:935 (8,9) - i feel that changing their order like as in putting the 9 before the 8 and then ctrl+g both of them flows better Yep. Changed.
01:15:583 (1,2) - the spacing problem as well Fixed
01:16:556 (6,7) - ^ A little closer.
01:19:151 (5,1) - ^ Seems fine.
01:19:962 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:20:610 (5,6) - ^ A little closer.
01:21:016 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - im not sure whether u can map that low the screen :/ Moved a little higher in conjunction with your last point.
01:23:205 (6,7) - spacing Moved a little closer.
01:26:448 (9,10,1,2,3) - the flow here is bad Stream stacked and (2) moved.
01:29:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - messy jumps Fixed
01:40:475 (2,3) - why place it like that? why not flow with the slider
01:40:719 (4,5,6,7,8) - compact and hard to read but i guess thats barely acceptably compact but the flow?? maybe can make the slider point towards the next hit Slider pointing towards the stream.
01:43:070 (2,3) - why place it like that?
01:43:962 (9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - messy i feel Fixed
01:46:962 (2,3) - ok at this point i kind of get why u place it like that but its really messy to look at especially when its used a few times in the map? why not place it sth like this http://prntscr.com/8ib0jc (i guess ill stop talking about this problem now coz its really up to you) Yeah, I place it like this because I want it to lead towards the next note, but it song doesn't sound like it has the justification to space it.
01:49:800 (4) - overmapped coz theres only 1/4 beats in the song Fixed
01:56:043 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - really hard to read if youre gonna do this do space it out more so its easier to read and the last 3 taps doesnt even follow the flow?? Fixed
02:00:259 (2,1) - its like theres a stop in the streams pls space accordingly to the streams
02:01:313 (3,4) - this is really quite unacceptable (and ill stop talking about spacing too) I feel like this works here fine because of the intensity of the song. But I did make them all spaced by two.
02:08:448 (1) - why nc Good question.
02:10:313 (2,3,4,5) - bad flow from previous slider Feels Fine.
02:12:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ?? inconsistent pattern Fixed
02:18:502 (6,7,8,9) - misleading and inconsistent spacing Square now.
02:37:475 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - weird flow and shape Fixed, hopefully.
02:38:610 (1) - slider shape Fixed a little.
02:54:665 (4) - while i feel its overmapped at the same time i seem to be picking sth up from the music but idk i tried very hard to listen but i still cant be sure(do confirm with other modders) I think I'm correct with this one. No change.
03:08:286 (1) - ???? slider shape Fixed.
03:13:638 (1,1,1) - spacing really misleading (what i suggest is spacing the 1 beat taps while u jump the 1/2 beats
03:16:232 (1,1) - ^ because that way at least theres a consistent patter behind
03:16:719 (1,1) - ^
03:18:827 (1,1) - ^
03:19:313 (1,1) - ^
03:19:475 (1) - why not just http://prntscr.com/8ib61u
03:20:286 (1,1) - spacing(kk i wont talk about it anymore im sure u can sieve it out yourself if you decide to change coz it seems youre using it a lot) No change for any of those. I don't see a problem.
03:31:962 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - one thing is the jump streams but i guess its acceptable but more imptly the sliders are overlapping so why not space it out a little? btw nice flow No change. Thank You
03:34:070 (1) - see this is a nice slider Thank you!
03:47:043 (4) - dont stack it directly under space a little Spaced 0.2 Kappa.
03:47:692 (6) - ^ ^
03:56:448 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh hey the flow here is quite fun Thanks!
04:02:935 (1) - pls fix especially the bottom part where theres some awkward contours Will wait for other mods opinions.
04:05:448 (12,1,2) - ?? flow??? Fixed the entire stream hopefully.
04:14:205 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - wow im not sure whether this is rankable but hey i like it Thanks again! Let's hope this slips by BNs.
04:19:583 (6,7) - misleading since its spaced out so much while your previous non stream jumps are equally spaced ?? I see no problem with this.
04:48:664 (1,2) - spacing but wow this kiai section was done very well Stacked and spaced by two and thank you!
04:49:637 (1,2) - ^ ^
04:49:961 (3,4) - ^ oh yes i wont talk about it anymore but im sorry i had to point it out coz these are really the things that forced the difficulty out ^
05:02:934 (5,6) - im sorry but... ^ this is really misleading I think it's fine.
05:14:529 (2) - dont place directly under Spaced by 0.2 Kappa.
05:19:718 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - ok this has to be fixed very unreadable LOL I fixed this in the last mod. I got so lazy.
05:34:394 (2,1) - nice move but not blanketed well Hopefully fixed now.
05:39:745 (5,6) - nvm might as well point it out since im finishing :< spacing Moved closer.
05:45:259 (1,2) - ^ you know this wouldnt be a problem if it isnt this far apart so if you insist on doing this pls reduce the gap I think it fits the intensity of this segment.
05:50:448 (1,2) - ok the flow is good and all and its barely acceptable i guess its ok but if you wanna improve it make it closer ^
05:53:042 (1) - ooh cool slider :D
05:55:637 (1) - ok i guess its fun and all the make it this way but lik its misleading coz the previous one wasnt even this far and the sudden increment in spacing might lead players to think its a tap one beat apart? Moved a little closer.

general comments and thoughts

-overall its quite messy
-do check on slider shapes, spacing and flow Will do.
-there are some nice sliders so maybe u should try to keep up the good work?? (for eg 02:44:935 (1) ) looks really smooth and neat :D
-some of the spacing leads me to think the difficulty was quite forced? to prevent this you should just map however u deem fit and whatever difficulty the map is at the end of it so be it since yours is a 5 minute map requiring only 1 difficulty so you dont have to control the difficulty. Like some of the spaced streams are overused and forced Yeah. I kinda speed mapped half of this song on Friday.
-there are some nice flows too like the alternating direction short sliders so do follow Ok
-oh btw the difficulty name hmmmm sunken???? idk coz like the song title is sinking and like the past tense of sinking Why are names so difficult to create? D:
-and of coz pls feel free to disagree with me because most of it is just my opinion other than overmapping and unreadability which is unrankable
-ps it seems you know of other people mapping this same song pst you can refer to theirs :D::D:D and i noticed one of them actually does have streams places apart from sliders but you know whats the difference? theirs is consistent throughout the song and they make it such that its need so ya if you really wanna do the same ensure the consistency and neatness(pm me in game if you wanna know which map im referring to so you can reference ))

Thank you for this wonderful, wonderful mod. It was very good as a non-experienced modder. Best case-scenario, your map will get modded tomorrow. If not, it will definetly be posted on Friday. Thank you again! o/

wow i love people who reply mods and yes its much better now good luck with rank

Maakkeli wrote:

Yo! From my que. I'm not too good at modding so don't expect anything super good.

Idk maybe you could use something like Inverted Castle (逆さ城 Sakasajou) as the diff name Sounds good! This is my go to now when trying to qualify. Source google is your friend here
Only two combo colors? You could add at least one more just for the feeling of adding more combo colors maybe something like brown. Maybe. I plan to add more when I storyboard, (if I can) and if I can't, I'll add brown; it's a nice color.

00:48:583 (2,3) - Stack plox kthx
01:09:178 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
01:16:556 (6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - This looks awkward since it's not blanketed Blanketed.
01:19:556 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move this and create a blanket around 01:19:556 (1) - I don't see any problem here. No change.
01:36:665 (3) - This to 0.2 ds too?
01:37:475 (1,2) - Blanket? Fixed hopefully.
01:40:475 (2,3) - Stack or do the same as 01:36:665 (3) -
01:41:773 (2,3) - ^ I won't point these anymore. These don't really affect the playability but it's just for cosmetic purposes Guess I'll change these now since two people pointed it out. Fixed all stacking remarks.
01:43:962 (9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This was cancer to aim at least for me but might just be the thing that I'm rank 20.5k lol Changed so that it's aids to aim. And by that I mean no change, sorry.
01:46:232 (5,1) - Overlap Fixed.
01:51:097 (4,5,6,1) - Blanket? Fixed.
01:54:340 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - This was cancer to aim again for me Yep it was sharper than the next part. Fixed.
02:01:232 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - I would space these a bit closer to each other Now with no follow points!
02:02:610 (5,8,1) - Overlap Fixed.
02:08:773 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Space further from the other stream I think this is fine. No change.
02:09:908 (1,2,3,4,5) - Blanket Fixed I guess.
02:16:556 (1,2,3) - Overlap I think with this one it's fine.
02:40:151 (2,3) - Stack? Fixed along with the points you made in the beginning.
02:41:448 (2,3,1) - Blanket? Just stacked it instead.
02:50:610 (2) - ctrl+g? Done.
03:02:773 (1) - ^ This one is fine.
03:02:935 (2) - ^ ^
03:13:638 (1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - So much unnecessary NC spamming here Will see what others say.
03:31:962 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Blankets Fixed hopefully.
03:42:827 (1) - this shape makes no sense to me like what is it for in this part? Fixed.
03:45:259 (8) - ctrl+g and stack 03:45:097 (7,8) - these No ctrl+g but stacked those.
03:46:394 (2) - Move a bit down so it doesn't overlap Moved.
03:49:800 (1) - Lol this slider shape. You're earlier sliders were much cooler This slider is the cooliest. No change.
04:09:421 (1) - Again what does this slider shape do? How does it work in this section? Emphasize the guitar but I changed it.
04:14:205 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - I'll just leave this here. Idk about this maybe it's bad maybe it isn't I just brought this out lol Wish me luck.
04:58:232 (5,6,1) - The spacing is too big Smaller space. Fixed.
05:11:529 (1) - Awkward shape maybe a bit too sharp Changed.
05:16:394 (1,2,1) - Ugh these overlaps Fixed hopefully.
05:18:826 (1,2,3) - Space more Fixed but Feels kinda awkward now.
05:45:664 (2,3) - Your spacing with these is just too much Fixed.

I feel like some parts need a bit of polishing but overall this is pretty good.
Good luck with this hope this helped at least a bit.

shadow_neko wrote:

btw about the spacing at 01:02:610 (1,2,3) it indeed isnt spaced properly coz by spaced properly it means the 'x-value' shown at the top right hand corner should not exceed 0.05 difference. as you can see here http://prntscr.com/8id46s your 01:02:773 (2) has a difference of 0.09x between the previous note's distance and the next note's.just adjust it to be less than a 0.05x difference unless it was meant to be a jump where you can then disregard spacing which i dont think it was meant to be then ignore this )) Hopefully it's fixed now. If it's not... then wut. This is confusing.

FCL wrote:

M4M from your queue

FCL wrote:

M4M from your queue

• [General]

1. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3703945 Your patterns almost always were located closer to the center. You not use them at the corners. Partly because of this during the whole map, I watched a lot of overlap. Try to increase the area. Ehh I think it's fine for now. I'll do something about it if more mods point it out.
2. about overlaps them have really very much. Try to avoid them, as it does not look quite nice
3. delete ,osb Done.
4. http://puu.sh/khVE8/6dde2f8bae.png Ws off Done.
5. diff name. Hmmm... suggest Extra Stage Too many "Extra Stage" in Demetori songs.

• [diff]

1. 00:48:583 (2,3) - uneven stack Fixed.
2. 01:00:502 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Music here is changing, may be worthwhile to increase the flow of DC Speeds up at 01:00:502 (1,2,3,4) and decreases DC at 01:00:826 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1).
3. 01:34:313 (1) - why NC? SV change.
4. 02:38:610 (1) - try to make it more accurate Better hopefully.
5. 02:41:529 (3,1) - make blanket? Fixed hopefully.
6. 02:49:719 (1,2,3,4,5) - I do not see a good reason to reduce the spacings here If you listen closely, the drums get deeper. No change.
7. 03:05:205 (1,2,3) - set there the same distance Fixed.
8. 03:55:151 (13,14,15,16,1,2) - If you are installing these hitsounds there, it would be logical to increase the flow of spacings Idk. Very iffy about this one. Will need some thought.
9. 04:02:854 (16,1) - take the distance here too, as in the stream Fixed.
10. 04:10:070 (3,4,5) - stack with end? Fixed.
11. 05:35:286 (2,3,5) - ^ ^

Sorry for short mod.Good luck!

bigjoe97 wrote:

Mod from your queue

Timing
Red point at 00:38:611 should be 6/4, since this one measure of lead in is 6 beats
Add a new 4/4 red point at 00:40:556 so the measures are positioned correctly
Add a new 4/4 red point at 04:53:529 to reestablish 4/4 timing after the interlude in 6/4 - you have the 6/4 carrying through the rest of the song which is definitely wrong if you listen to the music. All timing points fixed.

Inversion
00:53:773 (2,3) - I would just make this a 1/2 beat jump instead of having the triple after the slider, since the rhythm you use for the previous combo and the next combo are both slider->jump, and you only seem to do slider->triple when it leads into a bunch of triples and then a stream. Fixed
01:03:583 (1,2) - Ctrl+G for better circular flow into the next combo Wow this feels nice. Fixed.
01:06:178 (9,10) - Move these closer together - the spacing you used suggests a 1/4 beat jump.
01:06:989 (1,2) - See above
01:07:638 (1,2) - See above - try curving around like this Fixed all those.
01:09:746 (2) - Remove this, there's nothing in the music here. Just a circle at 01:09:907 will do.
01:10:394 (7) - Remove this, there's nothing in the music here.
01:11:529 (7) - See above
01:12:989 (6) - See above
01:16:556 (6,7) - Move these closer together - the spacing you used suggests a 1/4 beat jump. I think this is fine.
01:17:529 (2) - Remove this, there's nothing in the music here.
01:17:772 - Add a beat here since you're following the rhythm guitar. I'd move 01:17:854 (4,5,1) down so you can have a 5-note stream.
01:18:178 (2) - Remove this, there's nothing in the music here.
02:14:610 (6) - See above
02:15:259 (2) - Remove this, there's nothing in the music here. Just a circle at 02:15:420 will do.
02:15:908 (7) - Remove this, there's nothing in the music here.
02:17:854 (6) - Remove this - even though there's a note here, you're following the rhythm guitar so it's really awkward to jump to the lead guitar for a single note and then go back to the rhythm guitar
02:19:800 (4,5) - Remove this, there's nothing in the music here.
02:20:448 (9) - See above
02:23:043 (12) - See above I did not remove any of these as I personally think these are fine and help the flow but I will remove them if it's unrankable.
02:24:016 (11) - Why are there repeats in this slider? There's no quick drum beat like there was last time you did a slider like this. Fixed.
02:26:610 (5) - See above - yes there's double bass (and even then only for the second half of the slider) but it's at half the speed your slider repeats at
02:54:665 (4) - This slider repeats too fast. The drums are only half of the slider's speed. Fixed.
03:00:989 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like you should map the triples in the rhythm guitar here. No thanks.
04:10:719 (7) - Only half of this slider has music following it. I'd do slider->triple here to better fit the music. Done.
04:14:205 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - This stream is epic and I absolutely love it. One thing to make it even better, though - the stream switches directions quite a lot, and it'd be nice to have the changes in direction line up with drum hits, which would emphasize them way more than just doing a NC/hitsound every drum hit (which in a stream this long and fast is barely even noticeable). I'm not sure what you mean here. If you reply and/or post a picture that would be great!
05:08:286 (4) - This slider repeats way faster than the music suggests it should. Fixed.

Overall a fantastic map, I really enjoyed playing it. Just make sure to never map any notes where there's nothing in the music to match up with it, and be a bit more consistent with what instrument you're following instead of bouncing between the lead and the rhythm guitar (most applicable during the riff sections like 00:40:394 and 05:34:880).

Smoothie World wrote:

[General]

You have a red and a grey combo color, but I feel it lacks something a tad blue. Consider adding one that is slightly blue to match the clothing and the bottom of the background. Made it red, brown, and blue.

Unused Hitsounds:
drum-slidertick3.wav
soft-sliderslide.wav
soft-hitwhistle.wav
soft-hitclap.wav
soft-hitnormal.wav
normal-slidertick.wav
Delete all of these, as they are not used at any point in the song. Done.

Your timing is wrong in the 4/4 section. It needs to be a downbeat on times such as 00:54:827 as an example and every 4th beat from there. The BPM is correct, you just need to adjust the offset so that the downbeats are matched by the large white ticks. Fixed.

[Inversion]

05:34:394 - Unsnapped green line. Fix this; unrankable issue. Fixed.

00:46:881 (1) - Not the biggest fan of this reversing on the downbeat. Preferably you want to have something click-able on downbeats for better emphasis. Put a note instead of slider.

00:55:475 (1,1,1) - Not only is this kind of a pain to read, but the spacing is so low that it feels like a really wonky transition into 00:55:962 (1) . Try spreading them out more; that should do the trick. Spaced better hopefully.

01:16:962 (7,8,9,10,11) - You should manually stack these. Looking at it in the editor and playing it should explain enough about how it doesn't flow well at all. Similar:
02:10:313 (2,3,4,5) - 100% change this one. Fixed both.

01:17:773 - This guitar sound should be mapped. It sounds too empty otherwise. I think it already was...

01:39:908 (8) - Move this similar to x:212, y:57 for better emphasis. Moved to x:212 y:56

02:01:232 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - The flow here is too erratic. Make it at least make sense and not appear and play completely random. I don't see a problem; no change.

02:11:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I see no reason for these to be like this. Meh. I'll just keep it unless someone else points it out

02:13:638 (10) - This isn't 1/6 snap here. I'd just pop a slider here honestly. Similar:
02:16:232 - ^ It was always a 1/8th. No change on both.
02:26:610 (5) - ^ Made 1/4th.
02:54:665 (4) - This is 1/4 snap in my eyes. I hear 1/8th. No change.

02:38:529 (16,1) - Keep this spacing consistent to the rest of the stream. You need to manually do it here. Fixed.

02:37:151 (8,1) - There's a red point in this slider that is unneeded (the fifth red one). I'd just delete that since it has little to no effect on the end result of the slider. Umm... This isn't a slider.

03:45:259 (8,9,10) - Stack 9 and 10 on the end of 8. It's too off center as it is right now. Done.

04:22:719 (4,9,14) - There are too many of these in the stream to really improve the game play. It felt like I just kinda had to play it like a regular circle and hope for the best. I spaced it out more; hopefully that works.

04:32:123 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - Slider shapes are way too random here. Try to make them more similar in this measure especially and in general. I think it's fine here.
Likewise:
04:48:664 - ^ Fixed one of the sliders here.

1. 00:41:692 (8,9,1) - along flow
2. 00:46:232 (3,4,5) - uncomfortable to play, Ctrl+G plz
3. 00:54:827 (7) - Add NC
4. 01:04:719 (1) - Stack on 01:04:394 (5) - for comfortable to play
5. 01:33:746 (1) - is this NC necessary?
6. 01:45:259 (1,2) - too close, change slider pls
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 02:27:097 (2) - 1/6
8. 02:44:124 (2,3) - Ctrl+G for better flow
9. 02:54:665 (4) - why use 1/8... change to 1/4 plsss
10. 03:34:069 (1) - unsnap
11. 04:32:123 (5) - add NC