Chaoslitz wrote:

random mod owo/ since it is a short map xd

[General]

1. I think spinner ends in 00:29:497 is better I need to have this map at least '30' seconds long of play time. So I have to extend this as far as possible... Just to the point where the vocals completely fade. I would change this if it was allowed in the ranking criteria. [[/list]
   
   [Midnight Snack]
   1. Are you sure you want to use AR0? 0w0 Map would be too easy otherwise >_>
   2. 00:23:107 (2,3,4,5,6) - Exchange in 00:23:257 (3,5)? the jump will be more consistent color=#0000FF]Yeah. I originally had it so there wouldn't be any jumps, like you suggested, so I'll change it to what you said thanks.[/color]
   [Dessert]
   1. 00:05:513 (4,5) - you can make a jump here since you mapped in 00:05:061 (2,3) It would work as a jump I agree, I just want to keep the flow from the previous notes working with this. Plus there isn't much room to move it without having to redo the 1/3 circle stream thing.
   2. 00:06:866 (6,7) - same distance as you did in 00:06:114 (1,2,3,4,5)? why not. sure.
   3. 00:10:475 (2,3) - This jump is too far x.x Tried to move it closer I guess?
   [Dinner]
   1. 00:24:460 - Add a note here actually if you judge how I mapped this. I don't map to that specific spot until later in the song at 00:28:069 (2) - lol
   [Lunch]
   1. 00:07:919 (1) - Try this, the flow works better imo, since the snake slider you mapped is pointing to the right
      
   2. 00:13:783 (6,7) - Try using a slider instead, I think it is difficult for beginners to predict the rhythm here I wanted it to be a little different from the other times this rhythm comes up, but I guess it can be a little difficult.
   [Breakfast]
   1. look good!

>~<

EDIT: at least i tried.... Nice XD

yugijedi wrote:

~from chaos modding team o3o,

General

Audio lead-in ? There should already be some audio lead-in.

Breakfast

Perfect, but make the last slider a repeating one 00:27:768 (2) - (start the spinner a bit later). This feels so perfect to me! Hmm. It kind of ends on nothing though. I want to keep this consistent as well.

Lunch

00:06:114 (4,5) - The rhythm is very hard to understand for an normal player.. I suggest to replace 00:06:565 (5) - by two circles. so the player can easily notice it.. like here 00:13:332 (5,6,7) - Actually I changed the one with the circles lol. It's a little awkward to play since players are used to 1/1 gaps, not 2/3. I might even change 00:14:535 (7,8) - in the future because of this.

00:20:550 (4,5) - This one i okay then because the player then knows how to play the dubiduba XD

Dinner

00:06:565 (2,3,4) - The melody starts here so I suggest to replace 00:06:114 (1) - by a normal 2/3 length slider This actually does make a sound at 00:06:264 - It's just a bit quiet. The pattern also plays better this way.

00:19:497 (2,3) - move them a bit to the right so that they're exactly on top of 00:20:099 (4) - Autostacking new feature stupid thing 32463454ldlkfjsdlgks. You can disable this in the view menu lol.

00:20:550 (1) - again.. ^

00:25:964 (1) - move it to 128/220 for a "constant slide-in overlap rule" in your song like 00:09:723 (1) - ! know what I mean? went with 124/220

Dessert

00:06:114 (1,2,3) - make another pattern, I checked it, the melody really starts later like I said in the other diffs I can definitely hear this

00:10:475 (2,3,4) - having the same distance here feels bad. change that Changed with the previous mod. it shouldn't be as bad now.. I hope.

00:10:625 (3) - move it to 68/136 for a better blanket Fixed up the blanket and such. It was off by quite a bit.

00:16:490 (4,1) - you're mapping with the voice here, but that doesn't fit exaclty with the voice. The best way to do is place a circle at 00:16:490 and start slider 00:16:941 (1) - at 00:16:640 and let it go till 00:17:392

00:20:550 (1,2,3) - again I don't really agree with the rhythm change suggested here, but other then that I made some adjustments to the layout here.

Midnight snack

yeah I WILL ignore it I cannot not mod something like my only suggestion is:

AR -->0,1 :(

Hope it was helpful!! (sry for being short your map is nearly perfect)

Euny wrote:

xDDDD song is really my style..♥

• Dinner

1. 00:25:964 (1) - 3 grid up move it on 116/229 for makes better overlap with 00:25:513 (3) - this. Fixed. thanks!
   
   SPOILER

   

• Dessert

1. 00:07:919 (1) - i think this placing gives better flow. try this code Sure, swapped to yours, and did a minor edit to make the tail end land on an earlier note.
   

   212,328,7919,6,0,B|273:254|310:311|376:223,1,200,4|2,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:

   SPOILER

   

• Midnight Snack

1. 00:07:768 (3) - put whistle should be fit for this part. if you accept, other diffs fix it together. Done, and did it later on in the song as well.
2. 00:12:731 (4) - omg this stack. gives me confusing when i play this part. how about move it on 381/245? The maps idea is to be a bit tricky to play. I would like to keep this as is xD
3. 00:18:294 (4) - maybe ctrl G for this slider, cause for symmetry with 00:16:039 (3,4) - them? Actually, I prefer this the way it is. The first one is alternating like you said, the second one stacks on the start half, and the last one jumps to the end. Uh. I'm not really sure how to explain but this is exactly the way I want this
4. 00:18:746 (1) - and lets less ds from 00:18:294 (4) - this. just little bit down grid. how about place it on 176/38? Done.

low 2 diffs are look so perfect.
and this is pm3:30. i'll make cutlet for my late lunch. hehe. I'm getting hungry now too.
hope this is helpful... and hope so ranked it. take my star♥

21:01 monstrata: extra was nice
21:01 monstrata: aside from the overlapping sliders
21:02 Lanturn: which ones?
21:02 monstrata: 00:06:114 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - <3 this was fun
21:02 Lanturn: oh the ones in the middle
21:02 monstrata: but
21:02 Lanturn: haha
21:02 Lanturn: ramp up the difficulty in those specific spots :P
21:02 monstrata: 00:16:039 (3,4) - these 00:17:843 (3,4) - 
21:02 monstrata: those were really confusing to play
21:03 monstrata: cuz the first set theyre going in oppositive directions
21:03 Lanturn: yeah, this map is meant to be more 'confusing' during the easier parts
21:03 monstrata: the second set theyre going in the same direction x___x
21:03 Lanturn: third set is different from them as well XD
21:03 monstrata: yaaa
21:03 monstrata: i wish you could overlap a bit less, it was really really hard to read with CS 7 lol
21:03 Lanturn: haha
21:03 Lanturn: I feel like being 'mean' :P
21:03 monstrata: gonna play the other diffs haha
21:04 Lanturn: alright XD
21:05 monstrata: was that like CS 3.5 or something
21:05 Lanturn: lunch is yeah
21:05 monstrata: thats a jump from 5
21:05 Lanturn: yeah lol
21:05 Lanturn: screw cs4 :P
21:05 monstrata: lmao im going from midnight snack to breakfast
21:05 monstrata: :D
21:05 Lanturn: haha
21:06 monstrata: ehh weird shapes at the end lol
21:06 Lanturn: :D
21:06 Lanturn: I love em
21:07 monstrata: ahh isee why you use them
21:07 monstrata: the bumps like almost aligh with music 
21:07 Lanturn: yeah, just the first one
21:07 Lanturn: but I didn't want to make it all symmetrical and stuff so I made the last parts a bit random
21:08 Lanturn: I do that a lot with my sliders
21:08 monstrata: lol ic~ its fine. i prefer cleaner slider shapes but thats just personal preference
21:09 Lanturn: those get boring for me XD
21:09 monstrata: btw on Easy
21:09 monstrata: you're using 1.20 DS right
21:09 Lanturn: yeah
21:09 monstrata: 00:00:099 (1,2,3,4) - First 4 notes are using 1.1x DS
21:09 monstrata: wanna make them 1.2x?
21:09 Lanturn: XD
21:10 Lanturn: fixed
21:10 Lanturn: good eye thanks
21:10 monstrata: ez stuff. k thats all for Breakfast xD
21:11 monstrata: Lunch
21:11 monstrata: 00:27:768 (4,5) - 
21:11 monstrata: Wanna make this 1.2 too xD
21:12 Lanturn: XD
21:12 Lanturn: ok
21:12 Lanturn: something tells me I forgot to check DS on them
21:12 Lanturn: =3
21:12 monstrata: lol ya.
21:13 monstrata: btw the spinner like goes into silence even after the song's faded
21:13 monstrata: but ehh. i think it should be fine
21:13 Lanturn: I could end it at uh
21:13 Lanturn: 00:30:024 -
21:14 Lanturn: but then it's just under 30
21:14 Lanturn: first note is at 00:00:099
21:14 monstrata: ahhh
21:14 monstrata: yea xPP
21:15 monstrata: idk about mapping silence just to get the 30 seconds though... but then again i havent heard of any DQ's related to that before
21:15 Lanturn: well there's still a slight fadeout you can barely hear
21:15 Lanturn: so it's not really 'silence'
21:16 monstrata: i guess
21:16 Lanturn: but yeah, maps get DQ'd for being under 30 and under 5:00 for approval
21:16 Lanturn: Like jenny's map had to be changed for what I think was 3 seconds
21:16 monstrata: i've only see that happen if the time between first object and last object was < 30 or < 5:00 in Cry Thunder's case
21:16 monstrata: ya
21:16 monstrata: lol
21:17 Lanturn: lol yeah
21:17 monstrata: okay on 100% volume you can hear a very feint fade out so its cool
21:17 Lanturn: cool :D
21:17 monstrata: btw for Dinner... I think CS 4.5 would fit the spread better
21:18 Lanturn: 4.7?
21:18 Lanturn: I don't want them to almost be touching
21:19 Lanturn: 00:13:633 (2,3,4,5,6) - do you think this is a bit hard for a 'hard' diff?
21:19 Lanturn: one more thing
21:19 monstrata: yea it is
21:20 Lanturn: hmm, I wonder what I should use then
21:20 monstrata: drops to 2.2 if i delete them dam
21:20 monstrata: lol
21:21 Lanturn: lol
21:21 Lanturn: I need it to stay somewhat then
21:21 monstrata: 00:13:332 (1,2) - 1/1 slider?
21:21 Lanturn: because desert is 3.7
21:21 Lanturn: and lunch is 1.8
21:22 monstrata: hmm lemme take a look at Dessert now then
21:23 monstrata: thats all i have for Hard honestly. Lower CS slightly, and that single tap
21:23 monstrata: i think just reducing it to 4 circles is good enough
21:24 Lanturn: 4.7 and using the 1.1 slider -> 2.45
21:24 Lanturn: should be fine maybe
21:25 monstrata: ya
21:25 monstrata: for Dessert
21:25 monstrata: 00:13:633 (2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern is actually really difficult compared to the other single tap patterns
21:26 Lanturn: I think it should be fine because it is DS and is an insane
21:26 Lanturn: or at least I'm hoping
21:26 monstrata: its just, the angle is much sharper than the others
21:26 Lanturn: hmm
21:26 Lanturn: I've honestly found 00:20:550 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - to be harder lol
21:27 monstrata: o ya thats kinda hard too ahh.
21:27 monstrata: well
21:27 monstrata: that one has
21:27 Lanturn: maybe if I move (4) and (1) closer?
21:27 monstrata: zigzag flow going for it at least
21:27 monstrata: oooh ya 
21:27 monstrata: make them like 2 sets
21:27 Lanturn: then it'll flow a bit easier
21:27 monstrata: of 3's
21:28 monstrata: yea and it'd really fit with the song being in 1/3 rhythm
21:28 Lanturn: 2 sets of 3s?
21:29 Lanturn: anyways: http://puu.sh/j6Vxo.jpg does this look a little bit better?
21:29 Lanturn: less movement into the triangle pattern
21:30 monstrata: yaaa nice
21:30 monstrata: and 2 sets of 3 is like
21:30 monstrata: http://puu.sh/j6VxK.jpg this is a set of 6 atm
21:30 monstrata: http://puu.sh/j6VCn.jpg
21:30 Lanturn: oh you mean just like one jump
21:30 monstrata: this would be like 2 sets of 3 instead
21:30 monstrata: its just an idea
21:30 monstrata: if you have a beter one that can maybe make it a bit easier tho
21:30 Lanturn: yeah. I think I like the back and forth better
21:30 monstrata: alright
21:31 monstrata: man, right now theres like a larger diff gap from Dinner > Dessert than from Dessert > Snack lol
21:32 Lanturn: yeah I hope it'll be alright
21:32 Lanturn: I might have to put Dinner back to 5.0 lol
21:33 monstrata: yea. quality is definitely there, im just a bit concerned about the gap. if you can nerf Dessert just a bit, like maybe making the jumps with 1,10 DS or something, could help
21:34 monstrata: you jump around from 1.1-1.2x spacing anyways cuz i see a lot of 1.13's and 1.18's and 1.23's here and there
21:35 monstrata: slkdfjslkdjf this song is getting stuck in my head rip
21:35 monstrata: lmao
21:35 monstrata: taberuuu taberuu
21:35 Lanturn: rofl
21:36 Lanturn: hmm reducing those parts didn't reduce the SR lol
21:36 monstrata: whats the SR right now ;o
21:37 Lanturn: 3.7
21:37 Lanturn: lol
21:37 Lanturn: and went down to 3.69
21:37 Lanturn: after nerfing each one like 0.1 ds
21:38 monstrata: 00:12:430 (3,4) - did you nerf this jump btw or is it still 3.75x between
21:39 Lanturn: 2.40 now
21:39 Lanturn: which is more than fair for a slider jump
21:39 monstrata: yep yep
21:40 monstrata: 00:06:114 - what do you think about making the first two circles a slider instead
21:40 monstrata: http://puu.sh/j6W9W.jpg
21:42 monstrata: It would be similar to the rhythm you have at 00:13:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - where the 2nd drum hit gets omitted like at 00:13:482 - 
21:43 Lanturn: that one is followed a bit differently
21:43 Lanturn: it's also why its different on the rest of my diffs
21:43 monstrata: ah
21:44 monstrata: 00:06:114 (1,2) - I still think it wouldn't hurt to make this a slider instead
21:44 Lanturn: 3.56
21:44 monstrata: oh
21:44 monstrata: nice
21:44 Lanturn: if I do what you said and also change 00:06:565 - into one as well
21:44 Lanturn: so it kinda follows the vocals
21:44 monstrata: ya
21:44 Lanturn: 00:06:716 - is just held as well
21:45 monstrata: yea. its not the highest diff so its not necessary to make them all circles unless you really want haha
21:46 Lanturn: yeah
21:46 Lanturn: wonder if I should do the same for 00:20:550 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -  as well
21:46 Lanturn: I like the pattern though XD
21:47 monstrata: i think its fine. we've nerfed the other two patterns so now there are like, 3 slightly different ways of playing roughly the same melody
21:47 monstrata: which is cool :)
21:47 monstrata: cuz they still play very similarly with the single tap too
21:47 Lanturn: yeah
21:47 Lanturn: alright I'll let you look at what I changed then XD
21:47 monstrata: oh okay
21:48 Lanturn: I think i put hard back up to 5.0 as well
21:48 Lanturn: lol
21:48 Lanturn: because I didn't want the gap to be too far from dessert
21:49 Lanturn: maybe I'll put lunch at 3.9
21:49 monstrata: Oh, i suggested 4.7 because the CS gap from Lunch to Dinner was a bit big
21:49 Lanturn: but now it's the dinner -> dessert lol
21:49 Lanturn: I'm gonna make Normal higher then
21:49 Lanturn: maybe easy as well to balance it
21:50 monstrata: sure xD
21:50 monstrata: ahh i really like what you did with the first pattern
21:50 monstrata: thats like my favourite rhythm to map actually <3 
21:50 monstrata: so fun to play haha
21:51 Lanturn: on which diff?
21:51 monstrata: Dessert
21:51 Lanturn: oh the change I made for it
21:51 monstrata: 00:06:114 (1,2,3,4) - <3
21:51 monstrata: yaaa
21:51 Lanturn: cool :P
21:51 Lanturn: see anything else you would nerf?
21:51 monstrata: alright looks good to me
21:51 monstrata: nah
21:51 Lanturn: alright
21:51 Lanturn: Easy -> 3.3
21:51 Lanturn: Normal 4.2
21:52 Lanturn: Dinner 5
21:52 monstrata: i think Normal should be 4 honestly
21:52 Lanturn: fff 4
21:52 Lanturn: rofl
21:52 monstrata: alright
21:52 Lanturn: besides 4 is commonly used in Normals still
21:52 monstrata: yea
21:52 Lanturn: and it's supposed to be a CS map
21:53 monstrata: alright, 4.2 if you wish xD it does fit anyways
21:53 Lanturn: haha yay
21:53 monstrata: alright midnight snack xD
21:53 monstrata: 00:08:821 (3,4) - How about a jump here, 
21:54 Lanturn: oh fun
21:54 monstrata: ya
21:54 Lanturn: maybe yeah
21:54 monstrata: for the drum on 4's head
21:55 monstrata: 00:12:279 (2,3,4,5) - This pattern was hard to read the first time xPP
21:55 Lanturn: yeah but I love it
21:55 Lanturn: and I think its very fair :P
21:56 monstrata: Its still quite misleading imo... 
21:56 monstrata: 00:12:731 (4) - 362||199 tell me what you think about putting the circle there instead ;o
21:56 monstrata: if not, ah. its whatever
21:56 monstrata: tho, maybe NC'ing it could help with readability too
21:57 Lanturn: it feels a bit lonely lol
21:57 Lanturn: the map is meant to be slightly hard to read
21:57 Lanturn: you have to rely on the beat
21:57 monstrata: It's gimmicky haha. 
21:57 monstrata: yea i see what you mean
21:58 Lanturn: haha
21:58 monstrata: its short enough that after like my first paly i could already kinda tell where the pauses are
21:58 monstrata: lol
21:58 Lanturn: yeah
21:58 Lanturn: its very repetitive as well XD
21:58 monstrata: YOU DONT SAY LOL
21:58 monstrata: TABERUUUUUUU
21:58 Lanturn: TSUKURU
21:58 Lanturn: I even added them to the tags :P
21:58 monstrata: PLS LOOOL
21:58 monstrata: lmao
21:58 Lanturn: becausehow else are you gonna find this song
21:59 monstrata: loool
21:59 monstrata: that is true lmao
21:59 Lanturn: haha
21:59 monstrata: 00:19:648 (3,4) - Okay for this set of slider can you overlap them a bit less?
21:59 monstrata: 00:16:039 (3,4) - Like this.
21:59 Lanturn: +4
21:59 Lanturn: ok
21:59 monstrata: alright cool xD
22:00 Lanturn: moved the first +4 y and the second +8
22:00 monstrata: alright sounds good
22:00 monstrata: 00:21:152 (2,3,1,2) - This arrangement is really linear btw. so players don't really get to snap onto the notes that well
22:01 monstrata: can you make like 00:21:452 (1,2,3) - a different angle?
22:02 Lanturn: hmm I'm not sure what to do there really
22:02 monstrata: oh i have an idea
22:02 monstrata: http://puu.sh/j6XgX.jpg
22:02 monstrata: 00:21:452 (1) - 237||336 
22:03 Lanturn: hmm, then what do I do with 00:21:903 (1,2,3) - because it really makes it uneven
22:04 monstrata: maybe rotate it 15 degrees
22:04 monstrata: and restack the 3rd note on 00:20:550 (1) - 
22:05 Lanturn: the only other thing I can see doing is something like: http://puu.sh/j6XpP.jpg but a little more even on the jumps
22:06 monstrata: ahhhh that pattern doesnt look as nice as your current one
22:06 monstrata: lets just leave it then
22:06 Lanturn: alright
22:06 monstrata: because well, its CS 7 anyways
22:07 Lanturn: lol yeah
22:07 monstrata: ur more likely to snap to every circle anyways
22:07 Lanturn: yeah XD
22:07 Lanturn: lol
22:08 monstrata: 00:23:708 (6,1,2) - The spacing here felt really small compared to what i had seen earlier lol
22:09 Lanturn: 1.0 I guess
22:09 Lanturn: hmm should I raise it?
22:09 Lanturn: idk I don't really like this whole section
22:09 Lanturn: mostly because I change rhythm
22:09 Lanturn: and add a few more notes
22:09 monstrata: 00:24:911 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - Maybe move this whole section so its a bit farther from slider 1
22:09 monstrata: yea
22:10 Lanturn: Yeah I'll just do 1.2 or something
22:10 monstrata: sure. we nerfed Dessert a bit so you have more room to buff Midnight Snak xD
22:12 Lanturn: rofl
22:12 Lanturn: now I'll just control+G 00:26:866 (3) -  and we'll call it a night
22:13 monstrata: lol ya
22:13 monstrata: thats all i have :D
22:13 Lanturn: 4.72 now so from 4.7 it's not a big increase
22:13 Lanturn: I'll upload it I guess and you can look
22:13 monstrata: alright
22:15 monstrata: wait am i doing something wrong
22:15 monstrata: i dont see video on ur maps 
22:16 Lanturn: should be one
22:16 Lanturn: is it off under view?
22:16 Lanturn: Show Video should be ticked
22:16 monstrata: yea i have it ticked
22:17 Lanturn: do you get video in other maps then?
22:17 monstrata: lemme test
22:18 Lanturn: the other one is in options under general for the editor there's something that can disable it
22:19 monstrata: okay its working now wops
22:19 monstrata: i just had it disabled on effects
22:19 Lanturn: ah lol
22:19 monstrata: oh cute 
22:19 monstrata: lol
22:20 Lanturn: XD
22:20 Lanturn: most pointless video ever
22:20 monstrata: loool
22:21 monstrata: dam how do i check video offset again lmao
22:21 monstrata: thats it tho everything else looks fine
22:21 Lanturn: I think I used youtube for this one?
22:21 Lanturn: not really sure
22:22 Lanturn: since I cut this track from the actual song
22:22 monstrata: oh
22:22 Lanturn: literally the last 30 seconds of it
22:22 monstrata: no imean per diff 
22:22 monstrata: wait
22:22 monstrata: is it even possible for there to be a different vide offset for each difficulty lmao
22:22 Lanturn: yeah
22:23 Lanturn: it shouldn't be on mine though unless I accidently screwed it up
22:23 Lanturn: lol
22:23 monstrata: okay i see it now
22:23 monstrata: under events
22:23 Lanturn: yeah
22:23 Lanturn: another easy way is just to control+o
22:23 Lanturn: lol
22:24 monstrata: thanks
22:24 monstrata: LOL
22:24 monstrata: okay
22:24 monstrata: all checked :D 
22:24 Lanturn: hmm should I use 8.5 OD on midnight snack? :P
22:24 Lanturn: lol
22:24 Lanturn: or just 8
22:25 Lanturn: nvm I'll keep it at 8
22:25 monstrata: haha yea maybe 8 
22:25 monstrata: thought i wouldn't be opposed to 8.5 either
22:26 Lanturn: yeah I was just thinking since it's a pretty easy to accuracy extra
22:26 monstrata: ur call, let me know if you wannt up it to 8.5 before i qualify :D
22:27 monstrata: ahhhhh i didn't consider this yet, but do you think the brown color might be blending with the BG too much?
22:28 monstrata: i say this because like
22:28 monstrata: http://puu.sh/j6YwU.jpg
22:28 Lanturn: hmm
22:28 monstrata: idk. maybe im just paranoid cuz one of my maps got dq'ed for something silly like that LOL
22:28 Lanturn: maybe the brown one yeah
22:28 Lanturn: the lighter orange should be fine
22:28 Lanturn: lemme make it more orange
22:28 Lanturn: or pink
22:28 monstrata: light orane is definitely fine
22:31 Lanturn: updated
22:31 Lanturn: see what you think
22:31 Lanturn: also I think I did whatever you told me to on insane?
22:31 Lanturn: oh 8.5
22:32 Lanturn: and also I changed 00:08:821 (3) - slightly again
22:32 Lanturn: that should be it for the changes since the last update
22:33 monstrata: alright
22:33 monstrata: looks good ;o
22:34 Lanturn: cool :D