Update (24 December, 2016): 1st to 3rd Dan courses have been updated to be better (or harder) to their older counterparts. Please download these maps if you want to submit your scores, as scores on the older Dan courses will no longer be valid. There are also new backgrounds for all of the Dan courses, so re-DL the dan courses to get them.

(This goes hand-in-hand with the 7K dan courses thread, so check it out if you’re also a 7K player, in addition to a 4K player.)

Welcome to the 4K Dan Courses thread - where you can download dan courses to test yourself and see where you stand among the rest of the 4K players.

For people who don’t know, dan courses are basically tests used to determine where you stand in terms of skill in BMS, PMS, Go and other games. I’ve never really seen any way to determining skill for 4K purposes in any community I’ve been in (aside from 4SAM, which is relatively inactive and severely flawed at the higher-end levels), so this would be a good place to start.

There are a total of 12 dans, increasing in difficulty. It ranges from the accessible 1st and 2nd dans for semi-experienced players, to the absurd Luminal and Tachyon dans which most players would dream of just passing one of the maps in their given lists. Each dan course is denoted with a delta sign, to differentiate between the Normal/Insane 7K dans. These dans will test speed (generally speaking), instead of accuracy. If you would like accuracy dans, Ez2dj_7144’s thread on low difficulty accuracy dans would be the thread to go to. There are also LN dans made by arcwinolivirus, you can find these courses here.

How these dan courses would work in osu!mania is that all four of the maps listed in each dan would be combined into one full map at OD8 to 9 and HP7 to 8.5, with 5-10 second breaks in between them, depending on the dan level. The goal of the course is to get 96% on the overall marathon. Download links will be provided further on in the OP.

Rules
1. You are not allowed to use any mods other than Hidden, Fade In, Flashlight, Hard Rock, DoubleTime or Nightcore.
2. You are also not allowed to pause midway through the map. 5-10 seconds is enough break for you to rest your hands, pausing through the course defeats the purpose of having a marathon to begin with.
3. Don’t cheat, there’s nothing to really gain from this aside from self-achievement.
4. You can submit your scores in this thread. Feel free to post scores even if you didn't manage to clear the course (aka >96%).

Do you have any questions? Read the FAQ section. If your question is not in the FAQ section, feel free to ask in the thread.

Frequently Asked Questions

Courses + Download Links
1st to 3rd Dans
Dan courses in this range are OD7.5 and HP8. These courses have 10 second breaks between songs.

4th to 6th Dans
Dan courses in this range are OD8 and HP7. These courses have 10 second breaks between songs.

7th to 9th Dans
Dan courses in this range are OD8.5 and HP8.5. These courses have 5 second breaks between songs.

10th Dan to Tachyon
10th Dan is OD8.5/HP8.5, while Luminal/Tachyon are OD9/HP8.5. These courses have 5 second breaks between songs.

And that's about it. While these courses are definitely challenging, always remember that challenge isn't everything. Always remember to enjoy the game for what it is; this is a rhythm game after all. And with that, happy keysmashing.

Special Thanks

Change Log

wheres air raid

Well you need a minimal of 96% to clear the dan. So yeah...
edit*: only staiain can, so yeah

Glad to see that this is up!

I'll try this tonight after work; I'll probably get 10th Dan right out of the gates, but Luminal will require some training for sure.

Tachyon is not possible for me though, haha.

nice

gotta go fast

Posted this in the main Dan thread too, but it belongs here specifically:

The second song of Dan 5 is significantly harder than the rest of the Dan 5 songs, and I believe it doesn't belong in Dan 5. It is harder than most of the Dan 6 stuff too IMO. Need more opinions on that. (I actually believe that it is harder than all of the Dan 6 songs).
The last song in Dan 7 is completely slow jam, and it is very hard to play for that reason. Dan 7 needs to be fixed before anyone tries it.

Other than those changes, I think the 4K Dans are really good, and should stay as they are.

didn't realize Luminal changed to include Japanese Transformation; never getting Luminal rip lol

lol I'm never passing Luminal now

Shxfted wrote:

Posted this in the main Dan thread too, but it belongs here specifically:

The second song of Dan 5 is significantly harder than the rest of the Dan 5 songs, and I believe it doesn't belong in Dan 5. It is harder than most of the Dan 6 stuff too IMO. Need more opinions on that. (I actually believe that it is harder than all of the Dan 6 songs).
The last song in Dan 7 is completely slow jam, and it is very hard to play for that reason. Dan 7 needs to be fixed before anyone tries it.

Other than those changes, I think the 4K Dans are really good, and should stay as they are.

Yup completely agree, 2nd song in 5th is a lot harder than rest ( i got similar accuracy on 5th and 6th dan only because of that map).
I recommend to put 2nd song from 5th dan instead of 3rd song in 6th. (and find something new and balanced for 2nd song in 5th dan).

Also, osu!mania is not Stepmania and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND to remove those stupid 1/8 1/16 or even 1/24 LNs which are pretty impossible to acc (just change them into normal note). 4K dan courses depends on accuracy so please dont troll ppl with those accuracy breaking stupid short LNs.

And 7th Dan needs to be fixed, scroll speed on 3rd and last song is slower (feels like a slowjam).

lol epsilon-delta, are we trying to formally prove limits here

nice job tho ^^ hopefully our 4k and 7k courses will be used often in mania

I'll fix the SVs on all the dans and reupload in .osz in a few hours, sit tight

Maybe instead of this 5 dan 2nd song Danshi?

TheZiemniax wrote:

Maybe instead of this 5 dan 2nd song Danshi?

5th dan should have 1 jacky chart in it, currently I think True Millennium Queen is fine (and the easiest in 5th) but if it needs to be changed, it'll happen.

Fullerene- wrote:

TheZiemniax wrote:

Maybe instead of this 5 dan 2nd song Danshi?

5th dan should have 1 jacky chart in it, currently I think True Millennium Queen is fine (and the easiest in 5th) but if it needs to be changed, it'll happen.

The main thing that makes True Millennium Queen significantly harder then rest is pretty high amount of 3-chords (hands) in that long and constant 1/3 chord stream.
Probably it depends of player, will wait for more opinions : P

Shxfted wrote:

Posted this in the main Dan thread too, but it belongs here specifically:

The second song of Dan 5 is significantly harder than the rest of the Dan 5 songs, and I believe it doesn't belong in Dan 5. It is harder than most of the Dan 6 stuff too IMO. Need more opinions on that. (I actually believe that it is harder than all of the Dan 6 songs).
The last song in Dan 7 is completely slow jam, and it is very hard to play for that reason. Dan 7 needs to be fixed before anyone tries it.

Other than those changes, I think the 4K Dans are really good, and should stay as they are.

I found True Millennium Queen to be really really easy, but maybe it's because I'm good at jacks? The 120 BPM handgluts weren't that bad for me personally, but I can see what you mean with the 160 BPM jacks. I'll replace it with something, but I'll have to look.

Also fixed 7th dan SV changes. I'll update it in the future.

Tidek wrote:

Yup completely agree, 2nd song in 5th is a lot harder than rest ( i got similar accuracy on 5th and 6th dan only because of that map).
I recommend to put 2nd song from 5th dan instead of 3rd song in 6th. (and find something new and balanced for 2nd song in 5th dan).

Also, osu!mania is not Stepmania and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND to remove those stupid 1/8 1/16 or even 1/24 LNs which are pretty impossible to acc (just change them into normal note). 4K dan courses depends on accuracy so please dont troll ppl with those accuracy breaking stupid short LNs.

And 7th Dan needs to be fixed, scroll speed on 3rd and last song is slower (feels like a slowjam).

I didn't think this was very much of an issue at the time, I'll fix the LNs regardless. Thanks for pointing that out, I'm retarded.

Just pointing a small error on the dropbox file. The 1st to 3rd Dan file only has the first 2 Dans, and not the 3rd Dan. Everything else is good. Good work up until now. Keep it up

KaitoKid1998 wrote:

Just pointing a small error on the dropbox file. The 1st to 3rd Dan file only has the first 2 Dans, and not the 3rd Dan. Everything else is good. Good work up until now. Keep it up

3rd dan hasn't been finished yet. He's planning to upload it by the end of the day. Cheers

Yeah, I'll be adding the 3rd dan soon.

Replacing True Millennium Queen with That Was Too Slow [Hayaku! Hayaku!] and swapping Megitsune and Trapce.

Double tost.

5th, 7th to 9th dans have been updated. Redownload those if you downloaded those dans prior to this update.

5th Dan:
Shiraishi - True Millennium Queen -> Ranzor - That Was Too Slow [Hayaku! Hayaku!]

7th Dan:
SVs have been fixed.

8th Dan:
BABYMETAL - Megitsune -> Nhtonius - Trapce

9th Dan:
Nhtonius - Trapce -> BABYMETAL - Megitsune

All scores for 5th, 8th and 9th dans prior to this update will be invalidated. All scores for 7th dan will still be there. I apologise for the inconvenience caused.

Short LNs will be removed in a further update when I figure out how this osu editor works.

wow,these 4K courses are marvelous : O

iJinjin wrote:

KaitoKid1998 wrote:

Just pointing a small error on the dropbox file. The 1st to 3rd Dan file only has the first 2 Dans, and not the 3rd Dan. Everything else is good. Good work up until now. Keep it up

3rd dan hasn't been finished yet. He's planning to upload it by the end of the day. Cheers

Ok. Then there's no actual problem

There will be an update in 4th dan, Portal wasn't too happy with his selection of maps and he wanted to change it. For now, don't play the 4th dan. I'll remove it from the DL link for now.

This will -hopefully- be the last update regarding the mappool.

Look at what your course did to my key:

Shxfted wrote:

Look at what your course did to my key:

SPOILER

rekt

Shxfted wrote:

Look at what your course did to my key:

SPOILER

#thanksobama

Shxfted wrote:

Look at what your course did to my key:

SPOILER

wow.gif

A-Moe - Bagpipe [Rebound] Dan 6

totally creeps me out

karena duda.. karena duda

This is a really great idea, I like it a lot! I've been having a lot of fun preparing for and playing the first two Dans, i'm not that good but I am really proud that I managed to pass the first two Dans above 96%!

sweg

Shoegazer wrote:

They range from the very accessible 1st and 2nd dans where even the newest 4K players can try out

How exactly are these accessible? I tried out the first two 1st dan maps and I couldn't hope to pass either of them in a million years, let alone get 96%. I don't understand.

NeonPhoenix wrote:

Shoegazer wrote:

They range from the very accessible 1st and 2nd dans where even the newest 4K players can try out

How exactly are these accessible? I tried out the first two 1st dan maps and I couldn't hope to pass either of them in a million years, let alone get 96%. I don't understand.

Welp I think they aren't beginner friendly at all, unlike 7k, 4k only has one dan set which may be the reason why the statting sets aren't really for beginners. And the Dan title irl is something.

Probably a change in description will be needed or if planned, an extension.

NeonPhoenix wrote:

Shoegazer wrote:

They range from the very accessible 1st and 2nd dans where even the newest 4K players can try out

How exactly are these accessible? I tried out the first two 1st dan maps and I couldn't hope to pass either of them in a million years, let alone get 96%. I don't understand.

Yeah "very accessible" is probably a bit of a stretch in hindsight, at least for clearing. Admittedly have played too much and too long to really determine what's "very accessible for new players" and what's not at this point. I'll just change the wording slightly to be more accurate.

...I do think you're unnecessarily exaggerating when you say that you probably wouldn't be able to get those in a long time though, just play more and improvement will come before you know it.

@Lenfried: I don't think I'll implement easier dans for 4K admittedly, I'm personally far too inexperienced at lower levels and I don't know many people who would be willing to help out with the super low-end stuff to begin with. It'd be a neat idea though, but it'd probably be 5 dans at best regardless.

In other news, 3rd dan should be uploaded soon. I apologise for the delay, Portal has been pretty busy.

I'd love have beginner Dans so my friends would be able to compete. But well I understand you want Dans to be reserved for experienced players.
Gj.

sorry for my inexperience with custom mapsets and things, but osu won't open the .osu files for the courses and refuses to accept the rar either. or the folder. What do?

Tachyon (ε-δ)
Manabu Namiki - Tenshi (Full Version) [XozInfinite] [_Gezo_]

Tenshi was, is, and will never be a standard for high difficulty Infinite.
Wait for Xoz Infinite 5 and 6.

CephiCC wrote:

sorry for my inexperience with custom mapsets and things, but osu won't open the .osu files for the courses and refuses to accept the rar either. or the folder. What do?

Somehow complex if you don't know how to do stuff.
Extract the rar file.
Compress any folder in the rar you want as zip
Change the zip extension to osz
Open the osz
Done!

When a certain amount of ppl pass tachyon, we need tachyon beta *cough *cough Mad Matt *cough

Lenfried- wrote:

CephiCC wrote:

sorry for my inexperience with custom mapsets and things, but osu won't open the .osu files for the courses and refuses to accept the rar either. or the folder. What do?

Somehow complex if you don't know how to do stuff.
Extract the rar file.
Compress any folder in the rar you want as zip
Change the zip extension to osz
Open the osz
Done!

Oh my. Why not just make the files into the osz file from the get-go? (Thanks a bunch though <3)

Jut thought of an alternative to make the folders work.
Copy paste a folder in the songs folder in oss program files
Open oss and hit f5
I think that works

Sorry for keeping everyone waiting on 3rd dan. Should be up today, I handed the file to Shoegazer to be synced properly etc.

4th dan is incoming, just finalizing the song list.

Lenfried- wrote:

Jut thought of an alternative to make the folders work.
Copy paste a folder in the songs folder in oss program files
Open oss and hit f5
I think that works

Yeah, that'll work fine (provided osu doesn't just glitch and ignore the folders. I've seen that happen before.)

Ultra late update, but better late than never I guess.

3rd dan has been added.

4th dan has been changed, Bangin' Burst has been replaced with Escapes, and the order overall has been changed. All 4th dan scores before this will be invalidated, apologise for the inconvenience.

The 7th dan has some sync problems, mainly because the SM to osu converter I have has the tendency to make some of the maps drift more and more offsync for some reason. They'll be resolved soon, but for now - this will be the last update regarding the content of the dans themselves. Other updates will be sync changes and the files being .oszs (I didn't really think that this was a problem, mainly because I've been used to manually putting in the songs in the songs folder - but didn't know that not many people knew how to add maps manually here.)

nice files
gonna attempt these to see where I sit atm with downscroll

http://puu.sh/h9py3/dc2c4a407e.jpg this is freakin hard...i can't make it further anymore

Not sure if it is an error or was made like that but the first song in dan 4 is all in slowjam :'v

@DNM: Nice clear - but do post in the correct thread next time
@Remi: Mistake on my part, fixed.

Can we at least put the link of original map that you took the diff from to respect the map creator?

Sure, added links to maps that are already uploaded onto the website. Most of the files in the upper dans are converts and while some of them could be found in dropboxes like Lein's, I'd prefer to list down what pack they were from so they could try out files in that area, whether it'd be a convert or not.

@Shoegazer : thanks for reminding me. i didn't know that there is such thread here.

one suggestion..
can you minimize the volume to 25?
its too loud
i don't know if i can edit the volume by myself :/

Feel free to edit anything aside from the notes (and the OD and HP but that's obvious) themselves. I'm personally unfamiliar with the volume percentages and all that so I just did whatever felt normal to me, so my mistake if it isn't "accepted" to have a high volume percentage.