1. EZ 'Tsuda' - 4Key (1,24 stars, 231 notes)
2. HD 'Aria' - 4Key (2,59 stars, 644 notes)
3. MX 'Shino' - 4Key (3,34 stars, 779 notes)
4. NM 'Suzu' - 4Key (1,72 stars, 358 notes)

Feerum wrote:

Hallo :3

Wie versprochen hier is mein Mod für dich sobald die Map da is
alsoooo las uns anfangen :3

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General

Schaut alles soweit gut aus

4k EZ Kotomi

00:08:852 - Add Note, sehr deutlicher beat, am bessten bei 3 - Note hinzugefügt, spielt sich deutlich besser
wenn ^ befolgt 00:09:026 - move auf 4 - Ebenfalls geändert
01:13:735 (73735|3) - sollte bei 01:15:131 - enden - Das übliche Problemchen, durch die Bank bei allen Diff's behoben.

4k NM Tsuda

vielleicht hier bei 3 eine einfügen 00:24:026 - ? (optional)
00:32:834 - hier bei 4 eine einfügen (optional)
00:49:840 (49840|1) - müsste bei 00:50:538 - enden, jedoch könnte sich das wegen 00:50:363 (50363|2) - komisch spielen.. vlt sollte diese
dann entfernt werden?
wenn ^ befolgt 00:50:712 - auf 4 verschieben.
01:13:735 (73735|2) - müsste bei 01:15:131 - enden

- Schwierigkeit wurde im Nachhinein entfernt, da der Unterschied zwischen "Ez" und "Nm" verhältnismäßig zu gering war. Habe dennoch alle Änderungen nachgeschlagen und würde bei nichts widersprechen :3

4k NM+ Suzu

Wenn ich richtig höre welchem sound du folgst hier bei 2 eine einfügen 00:21:236 - Stimmt, die Note habe ich vergessen. Verbessert!
00:49:840 (49840|2) - müsste bei 00:50:538 - enden, wenn befolgt entferne vlt 00:50:363 (50363|0) - (optional) - Erste Änderung wurde geändert, die zusätzliche Note habe ich gelassen, dafür (um die Drums durchgängig zu mappen) bei 00:50:015 - ebenfalls eine hinzugefügt.
00:52:631 - add bei 2 - Gute Ergänzung!
00:58:212 - delete - Note wurde entfernt, da keine Tonänderung vorhanden c:
01:10:073 - maybe add here? - War mir erst nicht schlüssig, spielt sich jedoch flüssiger & angenehmer, deswegen so übernommen!
01:13:735 (73735|1,73735|2) - sollten hier enden 01:15:131 - - Behoben!

4k HD Aria

00:26:643 - add lauter drum zu hören, pass es den vorherigen an
00:33:619 - ^ add - Zusammen mit den 3 weiteren (immer der selbe Fehler) übernommen, darauf folgende Noten wurden neu positioniert zwecks Balance!
00:34:317 - ^ add - geändert!
00:38:154 - ^ add (nur optional) - geändert!
00:51:410 - ^ Add bei 1 - geändert!
01:13:735 (73735|3,73735|0) - sollten bei 01:15:131 - enden - Wie immer behoben!

4k MX Shino

Solltest vlt ab hier anfangen den sound mitzunehmen 00:00:305 - wenn du jedoch 00:00:829 - dem hier folgst, entferne die note davor, die gehört dann nicht dazu. - habe an dieser Stelle 00:00:829 - diesem hier gefolgt, habe also die erste Note entfernt :3
00:07:457 (7457|3,7457|1,7457|0,7457|2,7805|0,7805|3,7805|2,7805|1,7980|2,7980|0,7980|1,7980|3) - 4er Cords scheinen mir bisschen viel zu sein, versuche sie zu sein für dieses Star lvl. Versuche sie zu reduzieren (Optional) - Alle 4er-Chords bis auf einen entfernt, stimme dabei zu, dass sie sich deutlich schwerer spielen!
00:13:038 - drums vlt mit mappen? - Note hinzugefügt, ist zwar schwerer zu spielen, sonst wird aber der Grundrythmus unterbrochen. Super Ergänzung!
00:15:829 - add bei 4 - Selbe Mängel wie bei der HD-Diff, auch hier durch die Bank alle ergänzt!
00:18:096 - entferne eine note - Note entfernt und Noten im Unmittelbaren Umfeld neu positioniert!
00:18:968 - add cus drum - Ganz übersehen, auch ausgebessert!
00:26:991 - add eine - zusammen mit den nächsten beiden ausgebessert :3
00:38:154 - add eine - Verbessert!
00:40:945 - add eine - Verbessert!
00:56:294 (56294|0,56294|1,56294|3,56294|2,56642|2,56642|3,56642|0,56642|1,56991|1,56991|0,56991|3,56991|2) - same. Vlt ist 4er Chord zuviel für dieses Star lvl. - Senkt zwar die schwierigkeit, habe dennoch die 4er Chords in 3er umgewandelt, spielt sich angenehmer & passt sich besser dem Lied an!
01:08:503 - add bei 1 - Super Ergänzung, verbessert nicht nur den Rythmus, sondern spielt sich auch besser!
01:09:201 - add bei 4 - Selbiges Hier
01:13:735 (73735|2,73735|3,73735|1,73735|0) - las jede LN nen 1/2 beat später enden! - Altbekanntes Problem, vollständig behoben

Abschlusswort:

Du hast in einigen Diff's recht viel Vocal mitgemacht, meiner meinung jetzt nicht allzudramatisch, versuch aber die deutlichen Beat's mitzunehmen. In Mania ist Vocal spielen immer so eine sache und spielt sich einfach merkwürdig, nicht furchtbar schlimm.. aber halt merkwürdig

Ansonsten echt gute Map! Der song gefällt mir und wünsch dir viel glück damit!
Jeder Mod den ich hier gegeben habe ist ein reiner vorschlag und kann Ignoriert werden wenn er dir nicht passt!

schwarzvgrune wrote:

OMG GERMAN!!! i can't read german ;w;


this post is for MARKING,
modding ATM

General
Fix all of your kiai time, it needs to be at least 15 second.
and also you need to have an end point of the kiai - Thank you, I didn't know that! I've changed the Kiai Times accordingly

01:10:945 - your kiai here doesnt have an end, fix that
fix that for all diff - Done!
SFX = decrease to 20 - 30%, you don't use custom hitsound, no need for a loud SFX, its disturbing on higher diffs due to the amount of notes that we need to press - You're right, I didn't take a look at hitsounds and SFX yet. Volume adjusted!

MX

SPOILER

1 2 3 4
your map is good so i'll focus more on hand balancing
00:07:457 (7457|0,7457|1,7457|2,7457|3) - no strong beat sound whatsoever, decrease to 2 notes? that part is borderline overmapped for insane as well, so nothing wrong with decreasing, and to follow closely on the beat as well. - Normally, I would've kept that 4-Chord to keep the difficulty high, but since I've used your suggestion to follow the fast 1/4 notes, I've removed them completely

00:09:550 (9550|3) - move to 2 - To keep the pattern of the following stream, I rearranged the LN to 2 and kept the start of the stream at 4. Should have the same effect (hopefully )

00:09:026 (9026|3) - LN ends at 00:09:550 - Changed in combination with the repositioning mentioned above!

00:38:939 (38939|1,39462|2,39986|0,40509|3) - umm you're not really following any sound here... delete?

if you want it to be more difficult use 3 notes 3 notes instead of 2notes 2notes? - I kinda liked that part as tricky as it was, but I definitely agree with you, there's only two hearable sounds. I changed the part completely now, keeping the basic pattern. Maybe I'll rework it later on

00:43:038 (43038|0) - LN ends at 00:43:561 - add another LN on that time to follow the singer? - Plays a little bit harder and fits the song better. I like that, added!

00:50:015 - 00:51:410 -
rather than having 3 LNs there why not following the quick 1/4 descending background melody? you can use 1/4 notes pattern there

00:04:317 - add a note? you've beeen following that 4/4 beat by using 2 SN, why only 1 SN here?
01:00:480 - add a note? for 4/4 beat pattern, you've been following this for the whole song, maybe you can follow them for all parts? you omit some of them on some parts. - You're right, I forgot one note here. Seems like I can't find those tiny mistakes after listening to the song dozens of times xD

a suggestion for insane (MX)
00:07:282 - 00:09:550 - can follow the 1/4 fast melody instead? - I really like this suggestion. It gets rid of the "boring" 3-Chord spam and increases the difficulty and the overall feel of the map at the same time. Thanks!

a note about LN.
your placement is common for anime osu mania beatmaps, and this is one reason why i don't like playing anime beatmaps on osu. they're abusing the LN system. LN most of the time does not really follow anything. (this does not mean you're wrong. i just detest the whole mapping trend for anime beatmaps that are abusing the LN system by not actually accurately representing any parts of the song whatsoever.) - I think I have to agree with you here, most beatmaps don't really follow any part of the instrumental part, LN's are mostly about vocal mapping when it comes to anime mania maps. At the same time, it's hard to fine a TV Size with enough instrumental parts, to build in enough LN's without using any of them for the vocals. In my case, I had to make the decision to either get rid of 90% of the LN's as a whole, since most of them follow the vocals, or to do what I did and map them where the vocals are.
BUT! I have to agree with you here, I'll keep that in mind for my future projects. I think, some different usage of LN's could add some spice

hope it helps.
my specialty is on instrumental song, pardon me if it's not useful for you :3

schwarzvgrune wrote:

Hi,
after i rechecked my post there I realise that when I read it I sound really rude when giving mods, for that I apologise QAQ

and also, thank you very much for your reply, it's very wholesome! i learnt a lot from you too.

and also i'm impressed, and i admire you very much. you're rank 2000 at mania, and yet you're still very humble and wanted to take suggestion from others very seriously!

<3<3<3<3

i added you on my FL (because I like you >_<)
and i'll give you ticket on my queue (no rules for you to request for mods)


a star for you <3


EDIT: a note on LN, it's not really because they're not following the instrument. i don't mind if there is a few instrument and they follow the vocal, but even for vocal they compromise the LN too much. most LN follow the vocal sustained part if the sustained part is either very long. or if it's not really long (for example, with the BPM of your map, the sustained note sung by singer is only about 4/4 beat x 2, then I guarantee you 90% of anime maps with that pattern will only use 1 LN, 2 x 4/4 beats, to 'represent' the vocal, which in this case, does not really represent the vocal at all. it's not how you compromise, or at least in my opinion.
if for example they are using LN to express very fast sung notes like, rapping for example, or a trill, using 1 straight LN would be logical. but compromising 2 or 3 melodies with 4/4, or 6/4 beat and just draw whatever you want for LN (in this case the LN becomes 8/4 or 12/4 if it's only 2 sustained pitch from the vocal) doesn't really sit well for me.

therevenant wrote:

prepare your self-esteem, cuz its modding time !

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SPOILER

jk, ill be gentle

EZ

im gonna sleep here, cant wait to mod harder diff

00:15:829 (15829|3) - starts at 00:15:654 - if you wanna LN this, make it stick to the vocal. - Agreed, I changed that!

00:18:968 (18968|0) - no LN here, if there had to be one - Removed and added a part with more "peps!"

00:24:201 (24201|3) - move to 00:23:852 - i know you want to make a linear pattern, but i just cant stand LN where there isnt anything to idetify it with.
Yes, vocals are still there, but way to faded to deserve a LN, if you wanna keep this, start at 00:24:026 - You're right, my initial idea was to keep the pattern. i see your point, so I've changed it into more single notes.

00:26:991 (26991|2) - same problem overall, start at 00:26:817 - or 00:26:643 - Changed!

00:39:026 - 00:39:550 - 00:40:073 - add 1, give it some peps ! - Peps!

01:09:724 - add 1 - Thought that would be too harsh, added it tho!

NM

Im kinda gonna do my pitch and instruments relevance maniac here...

00:03:445 - add 1 (on 1) for the battery - I like that Idea, its a bit harder to play. Added!

ok, the sound is clearly going downhill here so you need notes going from right to left.
suggestion:
00:09:898 (9898|2) - 3 to 1
00:10:073 (10073|0) - and 1 to 3 - Been sceptical at first sight, turns out to play a little more difficult, but fits the melody better. Added!

battery clearly present, to keep the same difficulty i'd do:
00:16:003 (16003|1,16177|2,16352|3) - remove
adding notes on...
2 at 00:15:916 -
3 at 00:16:090 -
4 at 00:16:177 - sounds better to me, more accurate, gives variety to the map. - You're right, it does sound better, but with the unlinear spacing between the notes, I think it's a little to hard for a map thats still under 2 stars. I decided to keep the pattern you'Ve suggested for 00:03:445 - , since the drums do the exact same rythm here.

00:20:538 (20538|0,20712|1,20887|2,21061|3) - ctrl g for pitch relevance - Agreed!

00:21:410 (21410|3,21410|2,21410|0) - no need for 3 notes here, note as powerful as last time (battery+vocal+keyboard) remove 1
00:21:584 - add 1 - Removed and added the notes as suggested!

00:32:224 (32224|0) - 1 to 2 - I like that, changed!

00:36:410 (36410|2,36759|1) - ctrl g for pitch relevance - Agreed!

00:40:770 - add 1 - Added this note!

00:43:736 (43736|0) - 1 to 2 - Changed that aswell!

00:44:259 (44259|3) - 4 to 3 - I kinda liked the alternating pattern, since it helps newer plays get know to "tiny" thrills, so I kept the note on 4.

01:08:677 (68677|1) - 2 to 1 (a new pattern rises for better pitch relevance) - Agreed again!

01:10:945 (70945|0,70945|2,70945|1) - and 01:12:340 (72340|0,72340|2,72340|3) - remove 1 - Removed them!

HD

00:03:794 (3794|3,3794|2) - remove 1 here i think, this part is too heavy anyway, you have to get something out. - Agreed, removed 2 notes

00:03:794 (3794|3,3794|2) - starting here, make up your mind on the pattern (00:19:317 (19317|3) - i think this was better) - Maybe you've copied the wrong part? (since it's the same number as above?) not quite sure. At least I didn't change anything yet. xD

00:56:468 (56468|1,56468|3,56468|0,56817|0,56817|2,56817|3) - no need for 3 notes, 2 's enough, remove 2 in total - removed!
01:01:875 (61875|0,61875|2,61875|1,62224|3,62224|1,62224|2) - same here - also removed!
01:03:270 (63270|1,63270|2,63270|3,64666|0,64666|1,64666|2) - and here - yeeep!

01:01:701 - 01:02:049 - 01:02:398 - add 1 - agreed, plays nicely!

MX

im getting lazy now sorry, ill just point out the over use of 3 notes, specially at:
00:06:061 (6061|0,6061|3,6061|1) -
00:10:945 (10945|0,10945|3,10945|1) -
01:13:038 (73038|1,73038|2,73038|3) -
01:13:212 (73212|3,73212|2,73212|0) - This is the only part I can't really agree with you. I do see your point, there are lots of triple notes, but mostly, they follow some kind of pattern. In those cases, its either a finish or a part where multiple people sing in combination with a kickdrum, Nonetheless, Ill keep this suggestion in mind, if I get more criticism on this, ill change that aswell!

i may sound harsh but shimpainai, just gambaru !

therevenant wrote:

rather than adding triple notes, i'd add as many single as possible first (without overmapping of course).
and then, if necessary for a higher diff, combine differents instruments and vocals, map them at the same time to get a combiantion of LN and NN.
in MY opinion, too many triples are just a cheap way to increase the diff, id rather play with LNs.
glad i helped too btw

Pharos21 wrote:

Heya ^.^

Woohhh SYD!!!

(too bad this Mapset already have soo many Diff. Wanna GD TT~TT)

OK Back to MOD

[General]

Uncheck Widescreen Support.. NO SB right?? - Changed it, thanks!

[MOD]

Column

1-2-3-4

Tsuda

i hear some Vocal Mapping here.. why not following the Synth? - I agree, there is some vocal mapping in here. My problem is, that - without using the partly unrythmical vocals - the song would play kinda plain. Also, the synth isn't loud enough for everyone to hear at some points, I decided to stick with the vocals.

No Beat Problem Found
No Pattern Broke Found
Just Vocal Mapping, Follow the Synth instead ^.^

Suzu(Loli)

ahh.. another vocal mapping... follow instrument only please - Here it's kind of the same problem. Some people really hate partly vocal based maps, other people love it.

same as Tsuda.. no beat problem and pattern break

i can't MOD the rest.. Too many Vocal mapping - No problem! I'm sorry, I didn't know you don't mod maps with vocal-mapping involved. If I get a new project without vocal-mapping (an instrumental would be ideal), I'll make sure to message you again!

GL ^.^

Amefurashi- wrote:

mowd

MX

general stuff in MX. Although I understand the triples usage, there seems to be a lot for a light song like this.
00:21:584 needs an LN or two, up to you which notes to change to an LN - I thought about that before, you just confirmed that it is a good idea!
00:30:480 - 00:31:875 you first streams was js (jumpstream) why not do the same? - You're right! I've added a Jumpstream here, it plays alot better now. Thanks!
nothing much for this diff :v

HD

00:15:829 add to 4? - See "00:26:991"
00:21:584 make 3 an LN
00:26:991 add to 1 - I experimented with this a few times, but I think, since I want the HD version to be challenging, but not too hard, I won't add these notes for now. From a rythmical standpoint (and looking at the pattern) it would make sense, it also plays better, but for some less experienced players, I think these notes would add a little too much. Maybe I'll add them later on tho!
00:27:166 (27166|0,27166|2) - move to the right once - Since I haven't added the note mentioned above, I think it plays better leaving it the way it is. Also, this part of the song would get really repetitive, since I already have a doublenote on 2/4 before and after, looking at their position, I couldn't rearrange them without destroying the pattern, so I'll keep it as it is for now
00:28:038 remove 3 - See below
00:28:387 remove 4 - I'm not quite sure about these two triples, but since I use doublenotes for the kick drum, not highlighting the vocal part at that place would seem kinda off. Since you should't map vocals, I'd agree with these changes, but I feel like I'd have to change the majority of triple notes (since most of them are somewhat vocal-related) if I change these two, so I kept them as they are.
00:30:480 - 00:32:050 y u no stream like the earlier one? If you want to keep the pattern with LNs, you will have to interchange this section with the earlier one for difficulty curving purposes - This is one of my favorite suggestions ever. When I first made the MX Version, it had a LN part at the exact same spot, I added the streams much later on and totally forgot about the HD version. It plays alot better and a little more challenging now. thanks!
00:46:177 remove 1 - Agreed! The quad was overmapped, I changed it into a 3-Chord with a LN leading to the next double. Thanks!

NM

I see triples for very simple sounds. That's ok but this is an NM diff. Only triples for loud beats. Do not take vocals into account (opinion) I won't point those out - I checked the map several times and found alot of them, I'Ve also removed most of them, except for the outro and the one mentioned below. I added single notes during the LN's on the Kick-Drum-beats, to keep the difficulty at level and to add a little more spice. Thanks again!
00:46:177 this is ok btw

not modding EZ I'm bad at modding EZ diffs

Pharos21 wrote:

actually.. it's not about being a vocal mapper or not.. i know that you vocal mapping this to make a variation,, and tbh. i do this too in my 1st BM.
but mania is an instrument based MODE.. and mostly follow the instrument... i know the beat will be monotone.. to prevent boringness from that monotone beat, make a pattern variation.... (such as stair. broken stair, scramble ect.)and if you want to follow the Vocal.. us it ONLY if there's no instrument in that part (only vocal)

and about following the synth.. yeah i know it's not vary loud and you follow the Vocal instead.. but it's just wrong... tbh when i do this in my 1st map.. i got scolded veery hard from anothe modder cuz i mostly follow the vocal...

so in other word.. it's ok to follow the synth for variation..

if you have anything you ask or re-check.. feel free to PM me (formu or in game) GL ^.^

playin14 wrote:

Hi

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[4K EZ 'Tsuda']
00:11:991 (11991|1,12689|2) - if you are following with these LNs the drum then add a note to 0 at 00:12:340 (12340|0) - and a note to 3 at 00:13:038 (13038|3) -
00:15:480 (15480|0) - same here, add a note to 0
00:17:224 (17224|1) - make this to an LN until 00:17:224 and add a note to 3 at 00:17:573 (17573|3) -
00:26:643 (26643|0) - add a note to 0
00:34:666 (34666|0) - add a note to 0
00:35:363 (35363|2) - add a note to 2
00:47:573 (47573|0) - add a note to 0
00:51:759 (51759|2) - add a note to 1
00:52:456 (52456|2) - add a note to 2
00:53:852 (53852|1) - add a note to 1
01:02:922 (62922|0) - add a note to 0
01:04:317 (64317|1) - add a note to 1
01:08:503 (68503|1) - add a note to 1
01:09:201 (69201|0) - add a note to 0 - Since most of your suggestions were based on LN's and double notes after those LN's, I'll cover all the changes in a single comment. I really, REALLY like the idea of adding notes to the LN's. It makes them more fun to play, the song doesn't seem as boring as before. The only thing I changed on YOUR version, is that I've moved the singlenotes from the beginning of the LN to the ending, so that the player has to hit a note on every forth beat, which makes the song more fluid to play. (some LNs have tricky timing, those are excluded). I also really liked your idea to add at least A FEW double notes, so I used them everywhere I'd use a "hitfinish" . Basically, I've reworked the entire EZ-Difficulty based on your ideas, so the map made a HUGE improvement! Thanks ALOT!

[4K NM 'Suzu']
00:02:224 (2224|0) - delete 1
00:02:573 (2573|0) - add note to 0
00:02:573 (2573|0,2573|2,2922|1,2922|3) - Ctrl + H
00:11:643 (11643|0) - add a note to 0
00:11:991 (11991|3) - delete 3
00:12:340 (12340|3) - add note to 3
00:13:038 (13038|1) - add note to 1
00:13:387 (13387|1) - delete 1
00:13:736 (13736|1) - add note to 1
00:14:782 (14782|3) - delete 3
00:15:131 (15131|0) - add note to 0
00:41:643 (41643|3) - add note to 3
00:45:829 (45829|3) - add note to 3
00:46:177 (46177|2) - delete 2
00:56:991 (56991|3) - add note to 3
00:57:340 (57340|0) - add note to 0 - Now, this is where it gets a little bit difficult. At first, I didn't understand a single of your suggestions, but after taking a closer look, I realized, that the NM version had almost no pattern at all. I wanted to follow the snare drum on every second beat, but instead, I followed every snare drum in the intro, every second in the mid section and after some time, I switched to the kickdrum. That's a HUGE mistake I wouldn't have found without your mod, thanks alot for that!
Now, the song has a completely different pattern, so it should - theoretically - be fine now. The changes from 00:41:643 have all been made, since they weren't affected by that huge mistake of mine.

[4K HD 'Aria']
00:45:829 (45829|2,45829|3) - add note to 2 and 3 - Changed this part as a result of the previous mod, it suggested almost the same!
00:46:177 (46177|1,46177|2) - delete 1 and 2 - Same here!
01:04:666 (64666|0,64666|2) - add note to 0 and 1 - ...and here aswell!

[4K MX 'Shino']
00:22:980 (22980|0) - delete 0
00:25:770 (25770|0) - delete 0 - Agreed with both, the 3-Chords were overmapped!

I hope this is helpful
Good luck!

Frim4503 wrote:

COL:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

EZ

00:04:666 (4666|1) - REMOVE - Agreed! Bad LN, seemed out of place, removed!
00:04:666 - add note - Done!
00:31:875 - add note to 1
00:32:747 - ^ 1
00:32:922 - ^ 2
00:38:329 - ^ 3
00:38:503 - ^ 2 - Added all of them, only increased the difficulty from 1,15 to 1,16, plays much better, thanks!

NM

00:15:741 - add note to 2
00:16:003 (16003|2) - move to 3 - I played through my and through your version and I enjoy both, but I kinda wanted that "little jackhammer" in there, to give newer players a feel for what they can expect in the future. Adding another note before makes it seem kinda harsh (at least for 1,7* NM), so I think I'll keep this part as it is.
00:16:526 (16526|2,16875|2,17224|1) - remove. just make to 1 note, like previous patern - Agreed, changed that! Plays better
00:27:689 (27689|2,27689|1,28038|3,28038|1,28387|0,28387|2) - ^ same reason - Changed this aswell, thanks

some tips from me: next time if make another map try to follow the music not the vocal
if the music is not strong enough, you can use the vocal - True, many people told me that. I will definitely try to exclude vocals for my next map, I hope, the vocal-mapping on this map isnt too badly xD

Harbyter wrote:

hello,here the mod req via queue


[General]

if the mapset is only 4k i suggest you to remove 4K from every diff's name,don't need to put it xD - I think so aswell, but I might map other keys than 4k in the future and I want to keep a unique and linear design for all my map-diff-names "Key, 'Nickname', Difficulty" so I'll keep it for now, as long as It won't cause any issues

[Timing]

offset wrong, set it 1170 ,more accurate but apply it after the mods - Changed it, thank you!

00:44:948 - set previewpoint here ,after the change of the offset - Changed, sounds better, thanks!

00:45:821 - start Kiai here and end Kiai here 01:09:541 - ,apply those after the change of the offset - Changed this aswell!

PS: fix those in all the diff later xD

[MOD]


will focus on pattern consistency and other little stuff

Column-1-2-3-4-


[MX]

00:04:840 (4840|2) - suggest to move here 00:05:015 - ,for pattern consistency - I like that change!

00:05:189 (5189|2) - suggest to move in col 2 for balance - Moved! Thanks

00:06:061 (6061|1) - suggest to delete,no need a jack here and sound isn't so strong for three notes - I kinda like that part, it's tricky and overmapped but hey, it's fun to play kept it as it was before

00:12:689 - 00:12:864 - suggest to remove one note here, no need three notes - Removed this one!

00:14:608 (14608|0) - suggest to remove this,same suggestion like before - Done!

00:15:829 (15829|1,15829|0) - suggest to move in col 34 then 00:15:741 (15741|2) - in col 2 and add always here a note 1 - I really like that change throughout the whole song, changed at all parts!

00:16:003 (16003|3) - delete,same suggestion like before

00:18:794 (18794|0) - this too

00:19:317 (19317|2) - ~

00:21:584 (21584|2) - ~ really four notes are really a lot xD - All 4 changed!

00:23:852 (23852|2,24026|3,24026|1) - remove, and then add a note here 00:24:375 - in col 4 for pattern consistency - I like this change alot, changed! :3

00:27:166 (27166|3) - remove this too - Agreed, I really need to work on those triples xD

00:30:131 - remove one note here and add here 00:30:480 - Changed!

00:30:916 (30916|0,31265|3,31439|1) - no sound here, delete??putting notes where there are no sound is unrankable - I hear what you're talking about, but removing those notes makes the stream kinda awkward to play. I will however remove these notes, if they're the final criteria why my map won't get ranked, but most of the testplayers I asked said, you can't tell which notes are ghost notes and which are actually audible.

00:33:009 (33009|2,33183|0) - here too ,nothing - Removed!

00:33:619 - add a note here,strong sound - Added!

00:38:067 - add note 4 and move this 00:37:980 (37980|3) - in col 1 - Changed!

00:38:329 (38329|1) - delete ~ - Done!

00:40:770 (40770|0) - move in ol 3 and add a note 1 here 00:40:858 - Changed this aswell, thanks

00:41:119 (41119|0) - remove - Done!

00:44:782 - you can add a note 3 here - Done, fits the song much better

00:56:294 (56294|0,56642|3) - move in the red line above - Oh my god, how couldn't i see this mistake. Changed!

01:10:073 - 01:10:160 - suggest to add a notes here,those are the first notes of the incoming pattern - I like this change alot, added notes on 2 and 3

01:10:683 (70683|1,70858|0) - nothing here ,delete? - Removed, not necessary for the overall gameplay



[HD]

00:22:108 - add a note 2 here and 00:22:282 (22282|1,22457|2) - CTRL+J - Added, I like this change

00:30:916 (30916|1,31265|3,31439|1) - nothing here too - Same as I did with the MX difficulty. I'll keep it in mind, if those notes make problems, ill remove them asap.

00:33:270 - add a note 2 - Added!

00:45:829 - add a note 4 and remove this 00:46:177 (46177|2) - Agreed, plays better!

00:52:108 (52108|2) - remove,no need three notes here - Yep, I overmapped alot of parts in this difficulty aswell

01:10:073 - 01:10:160 - add notes here too ~ - Added one, plays more fluid

01:13:735 - add a note 3 - Added

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that's all hope i'll be helpfull

Razorflamekun wrote:

From my modding queue:

General:

Change OD in 4K NM to 7.5 - Fixed!
Change OD and HP in 4K HD to 7.5 - Done!

Those two suggestions are to keep a kind of linear pattern of escalation in your HP and OD so that the harder the song, the harder the OD/HP gets.

4K EZ:

EZ difficulties aren't really my forte, but I did play through this difficulty twice. The first time I played through it, I thought I found an issue, but I played straight through it and could not find the issue that I found in that playthrough again. When I replayed the song for a second time, I had no issues with the difficulty, so I dunno what happened.

No glaring issues in this difficulty. - Alrighty, I've played through it a few times, can't find any issues either. Will keep an eye on it tho!

4K NM

00:30:472 (30472|0) - Lengthen this LN until the next red tick.
00:30:821 (30821|1) - Remove this LN.
00:31:169 (31169|2) - Lengthen this LN at the beginning by moving it to the previous red tick and then lengthening the end until where it originally ended.
00:32:216 - Starting here, until the start of the next measure, the timing is off. When I went to place some notes to help suggest a different note placement than the already present 1/4th note trio, all the notes I placed landed on the blue ticks until the start of the next measure. This means that the timing is definitely off in this one measure. They should land on the red ticks. This is definitely an unrankable issue.
00:40:937 (40937|0) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
00:46:169 (46169|2,46169|1,46169|3) - Change to two note chord. Not enough emphasis for a three note chord.
00:46:867 (46867|3) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
00:47:041 (47041|2) - Remove this note. Sound it follows is too subtle.
00:48:262 (48262|3) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
00:51:053 (51053|2) - ^
00:54:018 - Add a note in column 1 here. Sound it follows is very prevalent.
00:55:414 (55414|2,55588|0,55937|1) - I found this pattern really awkward, especially this note: 00:55:588 (55588|0). I'd suggest removed that note at 00:55:558.
00:58:030 (58030|0) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
01:01:169 (61169|1) - Remove this note. Leads to very awkward play and to me personally, is a put-off towards wanting to play this difficulty multiple times in case your first play didn't net you the FC.
01:02:914 (62914|2) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
01:03:088 (63088|1) - Change to LN that goes until the start of the next LN.
01:03:262 (63262|2,63262|0) - Remove this chord due to the fact that there is no emphasis for this note, nor any sound that is strong enough for a single note.
01:04:309 (64309|1) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
01:04:483 (64483|2) - Change to LN that ends 1/2 beat later and move to column 1 or 4.
01:04:658 (64658|3,64658|1) - Remove this chord due to the fact that there is no emphasis for this note, nor any sound that is strong enough for a single note.
01:05:704 (65704|2) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
01:06:751 (66751|2) - Remove this note. Leads to very awkward play and to me personally, is a put-off towards wanting to play this difficulty multiple times in case your first play didn't net you the FC.
01:07:100 (67100|0) - Move to column 4.
01:07:100 - Add another note at column 3.
01:08:495 (68495|3) - I can see why you put this note here, but the flow of the map would be better if this note is not here and would make the map better in my opinion.
01:08:844 (68844|1) - Change to LN that ends at the next white line. I would suggest you change it to LN until end of the measure, but that would clutter up that part of the song, so a partial cover of the LN would be better.
01:10:937 (70937|1,70937|2) - Change to three note chord by adding a note at column 1.
01:11:286 (71286|3) - Change to two note chord due to emphasis.
01:11:983 (71983|1) - ^
01:12:681 (72681|2) - ^
01:13:727 (73727|3,73727|0) - Remove one of the two non-LN notes here. Hitting all four notes at once here isn't really warranted as the emphasis isn't strong enough for a four note chord here.

Overall, there were some issues, including an unrankable issue related to timing, as well as numerous other issues relating to emphasis and note placement, but was still a fun difficulty to play!

- Now, after looking through the NM difficulty several times (and by several times I mean longer than one hour), I decided that I don't like the way I mapped it. It was way to vocal-heavy and - even if it might seem different, I really try to avoid mapping vocals. As a result, I completely reworked the NM difficulty, leaving almost no note unchanged, so I can't judge, whether or note this part of the mod would've been helpful. What WAS helpful tho, was the fact that I had to look at the difficulty, which made me decide to rework it, so it has definitely helped improve the mapset as a whole.

4K HD:

Only looked at this difficulty because I did a play of it and found a few places where the segment could be more dynamic:

00:10:937 - Starting here and ending at 00:15:123 is a place where you should look at possibly following the vocals with the chords more instead of just making the section as it is now. Possibly consider incorporating some breaks in the flow of the notes as well. - As mentioned previously, I really try to avoid mapping more vocals than absolutely necessary. In this case, I tried to stick to either the synthesizer, the background vocals, or the drums (mostly the drums, of course). Adding more notes to bring out the vocals might make the patterns more interesting to play, but would also break the general idea behind it.
00:16:693 (16693|1) - Remove note.
00:17:042 (17042|1) - Remove note.
00:17:390 (17390|1) - Remove note. All three of these stifle the flow of the song. - Actually, I left all 3 untouched. I had the map exactly as you suggested previously and multiple people told me, to add those 3 notes, to create a more fluid gameplay. I also prefer the version WITH the notes added in between.
00:16:867 (16867|2,16867|3,16867|0) - Change this chord to a different pattern than the next chord to prevent repetition. - No need since I haven't removed those 3 notes.
00:18:611 (18611|2,18611|0) - Remove this chord. - Removing this would break the drum/synth focused pattern, so I had to keep it in there.
00:18:786 (18786|1) - Add note in column 1 to make a two note chord. - Would break my pattern again. :/
00:22:100 - Starting here and ending at 00:26:286 is a place where you should look at possibly following the vocals with the chords more instead of just making the section as it is now. Possibly consider incorporating some breaks in the flow of the notes as well. - Same as above!
00:27:855 (27855|1) - Remove this note.
00:28:204 (28204|1) - Remove this note.
00:28:553 (28553|1) - Remove this note. All three of these stifle the flow of the song. - Same as above!
00:28:030 (28030|0,28030|3,28030|2) - Change this chord to a different pattern than the next chord to prevent repetition. - -/-
00:29:774 (29774|2,29774|1) - Remove this chord. Doesn't fit flow of the song. - To be perfectly honest, removing this would make it more uncomfortable to play for me personally.

I think the problem here was, that it really seemed like I'm trying to build the vocals into the song, which I actually tried to avoid as much as I could (that NM was horrible tho).
Hope this helps

Meiko Senpai wrote:

Hi~ mod for req via queue

General
This is a mapset 4k only, so you must delete "4K" of all diffs- Is this absolutely necessary to get it ranked? I really liked how the 4k [XY] looked and I wouldn't really like to remove it, however, I will if it is an issue! :)

Columns: 1|2|3|4

NM

00:03:437 (3437|3) - don't use mini jacks, it's a NM, move to 2 - Done!
00:09:018 (9018|2) - move to 1 -Done!
00:09:542 (9542|0) - move to 3 -Done!
00:15:995 (15995|0) - move to 3 -Done!
00:17:216 (17216|2) - delete, I know it's a double following the vocal but looks bad I agree, I've removed both :3
00:27:158 (27158|0) - move to 3 Done!
00:28:379 (28379|2) - delete Yeeep!
00:30:821 (30821|2) - move to 4 I really liked the changes on the hand-balance for the LN's! All done!
00:31:518 (31518|1) - move to 1
00:36:402 (36402|1) - move to 4
00:37:100 (37100|2) - move to 1
00:38:321 (38321|3) - move to 2
00:41:111 (41111|0) - move to 3 Done!
00:50:704 (50704|2) - delete Done!
00:56:983 (56983|2) - delete Done!

HD

00:00:297 - why don't start here? - I've thought about this before, I just wasn't sure since noone else mentioned it. Started here now!
00:16:867 (16867|3) - delete
00:17:216 (17216|0) - ^
00:28:030 (28030|0) - ^
00:28:379 (28379|3) - ^ - I'm not quite sure about those 4 notes. If I remove them, this specific part gets really boring and flat to play, but if I keep them it seems a little overmapped. I'll keep an eye on it, if I get more criticism on that part, I'll delete those notes.
00:59:076 (59076|1) - ^ Done!
00:59:251 - add note in 2 - Done!
00:59:425 (59425|1) - delete Done!

That's all ^^ good luck

- Bad Apple - wrote:

Thanks alot for your mod! I think the NM difficulty and the HD improved and you've told me about some flaws that I wouldn't have found by myself.
Thanks for that, Meiko-Senpai. :3

Greetings

Zan - wrote:

[General]

1. Remove '4K' in difficulty name, because those all are 4Keys mode

[Metadata]

1. Title: 大和撫子エデュケイション | Source
2. Romanised: Yamato Nadeshiko Education | Source

remove (TV Size) because no official release with (TV Size) title

gl~
I'm ninzan

Zan - wrote:

it's the rule, if only one kind of key mode, no need to put the key mode in difficulty name
in this case, no need to write 4K

[ A v a l o n ] wrote:

Hi there . . .
this is the mod as requested

Column 1 2 3 4

testplay it before reject my mods :3

EZ

00:08:669 (8669|1) - move to 4, and after that 00:09:018 (9018|3) - move to 1 . . . try that - I'm not sure about this.. It plays better, you're right, but I wanted to follow the melody (higher notes -> line 4) here.. I kept the LN where it is and rearranged the other 2 notes, its still an improvement tho!
00:10:239 (10239|2) - move to 4, feel better to pressed . . . and after that 00:10:937 (10937|3) - move to 2 . . for better feeling - Done!
00:15:123 (15123|1,15646|3,15646|0) - there is confusing, if you follow vocal there . . . and if you want to map the vocal, better to start from this 00:14:600 - you're right, i've removed the LN's and redesigned the part!

00:17:565 (17565|2,18611|3) - Ctrl G, try it -thats cool!
00:19:309 (19309|3) - move to 1 , better to plays - done!
00:20:356 (20356|2,21053|3) - Ctrl G ^ - done!
00:21:402 (21402|1,21576|2) - move to 1 and 4 for better balance - done!
00:22:449 (22449|2,22797|3) - Ctrl G, and 00:23:146 (23146|2) - move to 2 -done!

00:26:286 (26286|1,26809|0,26809|3) - feel weird, cuz your previous map is not follow the vocal . . . if you still want to follow vocal, try to start from this 00:25:762 - same here, redesigned, plays better now

00:28:030 (28030|1,28379|2) - Ctrl G done!
00:30:472 (30472|0,30821|1) - move 2 column to the right . . . and after that 00:31:169 (31169|2,31518|3) - move to 1 and 3 for better balance done!
00:41:983 (41983|0,42332|1) - move to 2 and 4 . . try that . . feel more bettter - feels alot better, thanks!
00:44:076 (44076|2) - move to 4 for balance with above of your pattern done!
00:50:007 (50007|2,50355|3) - Ctrl G, and after that. . . 00:50:704 (50704|2,51053|1) - move to 2 and 4 . . .try that! done!
00:54:541 (54541|0,54890|1) - move to 3 and 1 done!

rest is clear ~

NM

00:01:518 (1518|3) - move to 3
00:02:216 (2216|1,2216|2) - move 1 column to right, and after that . . . 00:02:565 (2565|3) - move to 2
00:40:762 - missing note here ? - Yes indeed, all three fixed, thanks >w<

clear ~ good job

HD

00:03:437 - add note for kick
00:03:786 - ^ - Both fixed, thank you!

clear ~

good mapset . . . and take my star . . . good luck on rank

Verniy_Chan wrote:

Hi Bad-San >.<)/
Mod from Moe Hunter Mania Queue

General : ( √ )
Mapset : ( ? ) I Think it will be good if that diff name only EZ-NM-HD-MX, you can ask BN atau QAT for this - Hmmm, I hope it can stay like that. I wanted to have names of the characters/songwriters for every mania map I ever make as difficulties (just like the Mania-Map "Hekireki"
Metadata : ( X ) Tag : Delete "Seitokai", "yakuindomo", "yamato", "nadeshiko" and "education" is already in title & Source - Fixed for all difficulties, thanks!
Timing : ( X ) Fix Kiai EZ 'Tsuda' 00:45:829 change to 00:45:821 - fixed, thanks! :3
Audio : ( √ )
Background : ( X ) Must be at a maximum of 1024x768 pixels for 4:3 or 1366x768 pixels for 16:9 (Ranking Criteria) - I currently hope for a background-mod by Ringating, that should fix it. If he decides not to mod my background, I'll fix it myself!

4K = |1|2|3|4|

EZ 'Tsuda'

00:07:797 (7797|1,7972|2) Ctrl + G - Done!
00:21:576 add LN, stream sound here (optional) - I like that alot, done!
00:23:669 (23669|1,24018|2) are you following vocal? but another one?? remove for consistency - you're right, I haven't noticed that! Removed x)
Good~

NM 'Suzu'

Uncheck Widescreen support & Special Stlye (N+1 style) - Both fixed!
00:02:216 (2216|0) move to 4 - Done!
00:02:914 (2914|2) move to 2 - Done!
00:15:995 (15995|2,16169|1) ^
00:19:309 - 00:21:402 avoid stair pattern for this diff, my recommend : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2847611 & https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2847614 - Decided to use your suggestion 1:1, I really like how that plays! x)
00:30:472 add note Beat sound - Thanks, added!
00:31:169 ^ - same!
00:31:867 ^ - and again!
00:32:739 (32739|2) move to 1 - Done! But I then decided to move the whole pattern to the right side, to make it follow the music-pitch a little bit better
00:34:658 add note beat sound
00:35:355 ^
00:36:053 ^
00:36:751 ^ - all 4 fixed!
00:46:169 (46169|3,46169|0,46169|2) ? but 00:45:821 is more high pitch sound + Kiai - I agree, it feels better, Fixed!
00:56:983 good, it like i said above - Hmmm, I feel like removing the 3-chord makes this part a little undermapped. I'll keep an eye on it, maybe I have a good idea some day

HD 'Aria'

Uncheck Special Stlye (N+1 style) - Fixed again :3
00:32:739 (32739|1,32826|0) Ctrl + G - Done! Same as above, moved it to the other side of the playfield to match the pitch x)
00:39:193 add note - Done~
00:40:239 add note beat sound
00:41:024 ^
00:41:111 ^ - All three added! :3
Cool~

MX 'Shino'

Uncheck Special Stlye (N+1 style) - ..fixed >w<
01:08:844 add note consistency - I totally forgot that note xD thanks!
01:10:588 add note for high pitch sound?
01:10:762 ^ - Both added, plays way better! I like that! >w<
Nice Diff ^^b

Nice & Moe Song, I like it~
Good Luck -nya~ (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ

Feerum wrote:

Hallo mein Freund

Es ist mal wieder soweit!

From Feru's Mania Modding

Wie gewünscht wird der Mod in German sein.
Okay? Let's beginn! - Yeeey!

Column: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

General

Alles sauber!

EZ 'Tsuda'

00:35:355 (35355|1) - diese LN sollte 00:35:704 - enden, hör im 25% Speed genau hin, platzier daneben noch eine note für den Drum. Würd vorschlagen auf 4. - Stimmt, genauso gemacht. Ist mir garnicht aufgefallen!
01:10:762 - Maybe Add? (Optional) Ich meine nur diese 01:09:541 (69541|3,69716|2,69890|1) - 3 haben den gleichen sound wie die fehlende. - Stimmt auch, ich habe anfangs in der EZ etwas zu sehr an Noten gespart, um die Diff. gering zu halten, aber die Note ist ein muss!

NM 'Suzu'

Nichts gefunden \o/ - Yeeey \o/

HD 'Aria'

00:32:129 - 25% Speed mal genau hinhören. Wär es nich möglich den noch mitzunehmen? - Hmmm, stimmt eigentlich, aber ich wüsste nicht wie ich den sinnvoll einbauen könnte. Ich behalte es mal im Hinterkopf, wenn mir was einfällt pack ich's mit rein!
00:46:867 (46867|2,47041|0) - Maybe STRG + J ? - Fixed!
01:05:530 (65530|3,65704|2) - ^ - Fand den Ansatz gut an der Stelle was zu verändern, hat sich etwas sehr wiederholend angefühlt. Hab das jetzt so behoben, um den "Mini-Jack" auf Line 3 zu umgehen (hab die das ganze Lied lang vermieden xD)

MX 'Shino'

00:12:507 (12507|2,12681|1) - STRG + H - Erledigt!
00:29:251 (29251|1) - Move auf 1 - Done!
Wenn ^ befolgt, 00:30:297 (30297|3) - auf 4 und dann 00:29:949 (29949|1,29949|3,30123|0,30123|2,30297|1,30297|3) - STRG + H - Die Änderung fand ich richtig gut, der Part hat mir vorher deutlich weniger gefallen. Sänk yu!

Das wars! Mehr finde ich nicht mehr. Die Map hat echt einiges an Mod's bekommen und joa. Sie sieht sogut wie fertig aus
Gut gemacht. Wirklich!

Und! Weil du dir soviel mühe gegeben hast mit der Map.. Take my /o/

DarkSider2442 wrote:

Hi! From random queue.
|1|2|3|4|

General

Source - 生徒会役員共
Tags: 大和撫子エデュケイション SYD Anime OVA Opening Tsuda Shino Suzu Aria Seitokai Yakuindomo - Wowow, thanks for that! I would've never found that xD

EZ 'Tsuda'

OD7 HP6 or OD6 HP7

00:08:669 (8669|0) - move to 2, 00:08:844 (8844|1) - move to 3 - All done!

NM 'Suzu'

OD7

01:00:821 (60821|1) - move to 3, 01:01:169 (61169|2) - move to 2 -All done!

HD 'Aria'

Nothing :3

MX 'Shino'

00:04:047 (4047|2,4135|0) - ctrl+j - Nice one, thanks! :3
01:02:041 (62041|0) - move to 2 - I rearranged the pattern in a different way, you're right, it wasn't that well mapped before. Thanks still! >w<
01:10:152 (70152|2) - delete - Done!

Good luck!

• Move 00:31:867 (31867|1) - to 00:31:867 (31867|3) -
  Move 00:31:954 (31954|2) - to 00:31:954 (31954|0) -
  Move 00:32:042 (32042|0) - to 00:32:042 (32042|0) -

• 
  00:52:274 (52274|3) - Add note here

- Bad Apple - wrote:

Source - 生徒会役員共
Wowow, thanks for that! I would've never found that xD

KaitoKid1998 wrote:

As requested from my modding queue, here I am (sorry if I'm sort of late, I warned I was lazy sometimes XD):

1 2 3 4

[HD 'Aria']

• Move 00:31:867 (31867|1) - to 00:31:867 (31867|3) -
  Move 00:31:954 (31954|2) - to 00:31:954 (31954|0) -
  Move 00:32:042 (32042|0) - to 00:32:042 (32042|0) -

^That part felt sort of unnatural while playing it, so I think this should do the trick - Perfect, thanks! I also changed the pattern of the stream a little bit, to make it more fun play x)

[MX 'Shino']

• 
  00:52:274 (52274|3) - Add note here

- Done! Also rearranged the 3-Chords a little, so that the pattern fits

Good luck with your beatmap! :3

DarkSider2442 wrote:

- Bad Apple - wrote:

Source - 生徒会役員共
Wowow, thanks for that! I would've never found that xD

http://myanimelist.net/anime/8675/Seitokai_Yakuindomo





Shoot!

• [MX 'Shino]
  00:06:576 (6576|0,6576|1) - move to 23
  
  00:35:355 (35355|0) - end to 00:35:704 -
  
  00:56:286 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866553
  
  01:10:414 (70414|2) - delete
  
  [HD 'Aria']
  00:34:658 (34658|3) - end to 00:35:181 -
  00:35:355 (35355|1) - ^00:35:704 -
  00:35:355 - add 4 ?
  
  01:08:844 (68844|0) - delete

RuberusuScarlet wrote:

ruberusu's Normal modding

from my queue
sorry, late - No Problem! thanks for accepting my request x)

|1|2|3|4|

• [MX 'Shino]
  00:06:576 (6576|0,6576|1) - move to 23 - changed!
  
  00:35:355 (35355|0) - end to 00:35:704 - - done x)
  
  00:56:286 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866553 - changed this part during the IRC with Harbyter
  
  01:10:414 (70414|2) - delete - done!
  
  [HD 'Aria']
  00:34:658 (34658|3) - end to 00:35:181 -
  00:35:355 (35355|1) - ^00:35:704 -
  00:35:355 - add 4 ? - All done!
  
  01:08:844 (68844|0) - delete

good luck