1. ppOUND (7.67 stars, 3250 notes)

1. remove all this staff from the tags : dragonforce operation ground and pound through the fire flames cry for eternity revolution deathsquad inhuman rampage fallen world lesjuh
2. HP 6 is better
3. 00:40:318 - start with a circle and then the spinner is nicer
4. 00:40:318 (1,1) - no no no atleast in the red tick please
5. 01:13:268 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - the square jumps doesent fit here since is not like the *amazing time to jum* the song is calm in this step so don't over load it with unnecessary jumps
6. 01:20:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same about this one
7. 02:21:593 (1,1) - same here pls at red tick, and change it to the other cases aswell
8. 02:31:493 - this break feels so missplaced here why don't you add some circles to the strong sound :V
9. 03:45:518 (3) - kiai has always to start with a new combo
10. really i just see lazyness here sorry i don't wanna be rude but is what i see here squares and nothing else
    
    now tell me please what is this:

    04:49:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
11. Your diff is just overmapped with unecessary jumps i'm not even talking about the rhythm wich is acettable

Lally wrote:

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1. remove all this staff from the tags : dragonforce operation ground and pound through the fire flames cry for eternity revolution deathsquad inhuman rampage fallen world lesjuh I removed all the tags.
2. HP 6 is better I changed the HP drain
3. 00:40:318 - start with a circle and then the spinner is nicer I started with a circle before the spinner but the circle is where the spinner was originally.
4. 00:40:318 (1,1) - no no no atleast in the red tick please I assume you are talking about putting the spinner on the red tick; that just doesn't work for me
5. 01:13:268 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - the square jumps doesent fit here since is not like the *amazing time to jum* the song is calm in this step so don't over load it with unnecessary jumps I removed the square 'jumps' (they weren't even hard) and replaced it with a 1.5x and 1.2x back and forth squares to fit with the next part.
6. 01:20:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same about this one These wren't jumps
7. 02:21:593 (1,1) - same here pls at red tick, and change it to the other cases aswell Changing the middle spinner to the red tick would make it shorter and give an AIMod error. That also won't fit the song very well (Lesjuh also did this somewhere in Cry for Eternity).
8. 02:31:493 - this break feels so missplaced here why don't you add some circles to the strong sound :V I mapped here with a some back and forth jumps for consistency later on in the map.
9. 03:45:518 (3) - kiai has always to start with a new combo I didn't see this, I agree with this change
10. really i just see lazyness here sorry i don't wanna be rude but is what i see here squares and nothing else I changed the middle section squares into octagons and changed the last section into hexaoctagons to show that I'm not 'lazy' but the power spike from these shapes from the squares is massive (6.86 to 6.94). I chose the squares because they were a little easier than octagons because of jump distances but, being 'lazy' doesn't quite cut it.
    
    now tell me please what is this:

    04:49:118 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
11. Your diff is just overmapped with unecessary jumps i'm not even talking about the rhythm wich is acettable

gl o3o/ Thanks for your mod.

mrturtle99 wrote:

._. This is crazy
You asked for a mod from me, so hi~

mostly just some NC suggestions

1. 00:45:218 (12) - consider putting a NC here, as I think any combo that goes over 20 is too long
2. 01:21:518 (10) - NC
3. 01:22:118 (15) - ^
4. 01:45:518 (10) - ^
5. 01:48:218 (5,9,13) - ^
6. 02:58:868 (8) - fix the slider endpoint here so that it is inside the slider
7. 03:35:393 (7) - NC
8. 03:44:318 (17) - ^
9. 05:15:968 (7) - ^
10. 05:17:318 (7) - ^
11. 07:40:118 (7) - center this on the y axis

MikasaSerket wrote:

Marathon

Before I start with the mods, the map is 7.65 stars prior to this mod. It is aimed for the top players in the game and it is meant to be hard.
02:57:818 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Oh dear, these jumps are very hard to read. Avoid jumps like these in the future because the person that is playing may have trouble trying to stream and read these jumps since they over lap each other. I made this intentionally hard to read to provide a sufficient challenge for a player.
02:56:168 - Just a suggestion, add a green offset so that the slider velocity could be .75 then make a slider up to 02:56:918 - then place a green offset there to make the beat normal again. I think that is just for fun, you do not have to actually do it. This was a nice suggestion, however I do prefer spinners over long sliders,
06:51:743 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This is a very irregular beat, the hit circles sounds go back and fourth which does not sound pleasant at all. The hit circles match the drum pattern in the song that plays in this section, so I thought I would match it. Originally, I had 1/1 semi-overlapped beats, but I prefer this.
06:57:818 (9,10,11) - Do not overlap these, they look very awkward and are hard for the player to read. I agree that this is quite awkward. However, I will not change this pattern. Players that actually get this far should be fine with this pattern.
06:58:268 (12,13,14,15) - Might as well combo break because that is just too hard for any player to play, I would suggest spreading them out more. I didn't actually have this section on my version of the map, so I have no idea what you have selected (sorry). I did put a combo break after the awkward pattern mentioned above, though.
07:10:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These streams look very unorganized, do not put spaces in them and try to curve them. I didn't change the fact that the stream curves. However, I did manage to find a note that was snapped at a different spacing to the others (circle 3 in that section). It looks much better and more organised now with this correction.
06:53:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - NEVER EVER DO STREAMS LIKE THIS. Players find it extremely annoying and hard to play streams that go up and down directly like this. It probably is annoying, but the difficulty will stick.
06:28:118 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - These sliders are off beat and get very repetitive. Spread them out more This is quite repetitive after looking at it 5 times in a row. I don't think I have a solution for this, and spacing them out more would just get messy. It is a nice break from the spaced triple that leads in to the sliders.
06:30:218 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These hit circles just simply sound incorrect. The positioning of them is also very hard to read. It follows the drum pattern that plays there and the positioning was intentional.
00:55:718 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - Do not put any pauses in the streams. They sound off beat if you do that, also, just make it a simple stream do not try to add any tricks to it. This used to be a solid, stream before I reworked this map. The pauses highlight the note changes in the guitar lead, while the stream follows the drum beat.
01:00:518 (9,1) - Do not make streams like that, just make it curved I was just having fun here. I'll make this curve round.
01:02:468 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is very hard for the player to read. Do not make jumps like this. Intentionally hard to read. I will keep this section like this.
01:14:468 (2,3,4) - Sliders that overlap just get annoying to play from time to time, avoid overlapping sliders. This one follows the guitar that is mapped here. Both the guitar notes here sound exactly the same, hence the overlapping sliders here and in the later sections in this section of the song.
01:21:818 (3,4,5) - That part is waaaay to hard to read. Just make it simple and do not try to add jumps. I didn't have any problem reading this. I will keep this triple here.
01:27:743 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1) - These are unorganized streams. Please fix them. There was a pattern to these. However, I have made this a solid stream and I have added a combo break when it starts to change direction.
01:43:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is hard to read Yes, it is.
01:50:618 (1,2,3) - Do not make these spaced These are spaced so that they correspond to the sliders and circles that precede them.
01:59:093 (2,3,4,5) - Combo four is too far away from the others and it is hard to read. Avoiding doing other jumps like these. 4 is closer to 3 than 5 to 4. The reason why I put 5 there was to make it look like a 2, 3 and 5 look like a triple.
02:00:668 (8,9,10,11) - Hard to read and just plain difficult to play It is much easier to read than my previous solution here of a slider and hidden circles. However, it is more difficult to play.
02:02:018 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3) - Gets too repetitive, position them differently The position is repetitive, but it does play differently when going back and forth.
02:05:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Overmapped streams. I would have considered this if you had not linked the whole deathstream. Maybe if you mentioned just the first 32, I would have changed it. The first 32 follow the drum patterns and the rest of the stream follows the fast guitar.
05:19:718 (1,2) - Change this into one long slider It won't match the stream patterns before these sliders without slider velocity changes, which in turn would mess the whole idea of horizontal reflection.
07:39:518 (3,4,5,6,7) - Too far apart Definitely intentional. This is to differentiate between those that are still prepared the play the map to the very end and those who are amazed that they are so close to the very end.

There were many more errors but they were just the same mistakes repeated over again, hopefully I helped you <3

I apologise if my responses to your mods came off as rude. This was not intentional. Sorry.

Maakkeli wrote:

Yo! From my que

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[Legend]
Disable countdown, widescreen support and letterbox during breaks. Also check AiMod there is two timing points over each other
I didn't know these existed, thanks for this.

00:47:618 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Why do you randomly change spacing here? I forgot to remap this part. I've made the spacings even to x1.5 for this section.

00:47:918 (10) - NC Did this.

00:51:743 (4,5,6,7,8) - Curve more Did this.

00:52:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too damn wiggly Thanks for the comment.

00:56:318 (1) - Remove NC, 00:56:468 (2) - NC Did this.

00:57:068 (9) - NC Did this.

01:02:468 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is just random This isn't random. I've added NC's here for clarity.

OMG those triplets in a triangle shape you have to be rank 200 to hit those cough7.64cough
02:05:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This. DS these to something like 0.8 so they differ from 02:08:318 (1) - onward. There is clearly a different sound or what should I call it, "feel" to the drums and so it should differ from the previous stream
I was saving the spaced streams until after the first chorus part. I have changed the spacing of the streams.

02:11:918 (1) - This too. The drums definitely sound here like the 1/4 part is coming to and end so you should but this probably with a spacing of something like 1.1 or 1.2 As above.

02:19:118 (1) - Here the same thing. Imo just putting NC here doesn't just feel enough So below?

02:22:718 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Yea you follow the drums. Cool. But the circle placement and spacing does not follow the drums. The drums are changing and so should the stream with it's spacing and sometimes even placement. I can accept everything before 02:26:318 (1) - but after that it feels like just the same stuff is happening and nothing happened in the drums. Give the stream more spacing from 02:26:318 (1) - onward or just make the stream before it less spaced. Also your hitsounding is weird. Why clap and finish? I think you should follow the deep beats in the drums here when hitsounding.
I'm not very good at hitsounding, as evident by my hitsounding in this beatmap.

02:34:718 (11) - NC Did this.

02:40:868 (2) - Is this supposed to be a blanket No, it's not meant to be a blanket. I will probably blanket it at a later time.

02:43:118 (1) - Remove NC, 02:43:268 (2) - NC Did this.

02:43:868 (9) - NC Did this.

02:44:318 (14) - NC Did this.

03:35:243 (8,1) - Probably no human can make this jump and it's just dumb. What justifies this there's nothing happening with the guitar or drums. It's just a random huge jump between two streams. I'm not gonna talk about any stream any more. It was made as a horizontal symmetry pattern. I'm pretty sure I did this jump and I'm clearly not a good player.

04:21:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Boring pattern. Like even if the song is repeating here you don't have necessarily do this. There are a ton of patterns for repeating parts. For example this pattern that can be often found in monstratas maps which basically just goes up and down repeatedly and does it over and over again. I'm not monstrata. I have changed these jumps though.

04:23:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This does not have to be entirely repetitive. There are different happenings with the guitar. Map them. Did this.

04:50:768 (4,1) - First you have decently big jumps. Cool nice I like jumps but then comes these notes and you put them 1mm close to each other. Isn't this kinda like uhh... random? I'm not gonna say anything about your patterns except that I don't like them. It's a readability pattern. People can easily misread this pattern.

05:11:918 (1) - Put a note to the white tick. Also add a circle to the spinners end at the white tick. The spinner should start and end on the blue or the red ticks. I added a circle and moved the spinner 1 tick forward. The end will remain in the same position.

05:18:518 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - What kind of a jesus do I have to be to hit these? You answered this question earlier. Changed the pattern slightly.

05:31:718 (1) - Note to the white tick If you tested this, you would have noticed that the white tick would also make the spinner unplayable. Added a stream here.

05:48:818 (5) - Are you serious. Anyways NC Yes, I'm serious. I'm debating whether or not you were serious about this mod.

I could probably go on and on about this map but I'm not going to. I feel like you really need to work on stuff here and get opinions from experienced mappers who map hard stuff. Hope I explained stuff carefully enough probably a ton of typos there so feel free to message me ingame if you didn't catch my meaning in some parts.
Good luck!

Tassadar wrote:

Free mod, just some opinions, feel free to not take a lot of this into account, as I'm not good enough to play this, but some of these issues make the map nigh unplayable in my opinion.

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Probably the biggest problem with this map is the artificial difficulty in the streams, like in 00:51:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - . I don't think they fit the song a great deal. In that example, I can see how it gets more intense, but a full on jump into a different shaped stream doesn't flow that well. I've changed the aforementioned part to change direction sharply instead of jump in to different shaped streams. It does flow better now.
Some more examples:
01:35:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - This flow looks really confusing. The jump to 01:36:368 (7,8) is much bigger than the one to 01:36:143 (4,5) - and the whole pattern is not consistent in its directional changes. I've changed the stream here to match the object formations earlier in that section.
01:47:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The jump is pretty unnecessary imo. Moved the whole stream down to essentially delete the jump.
05:18:593 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This spacing change combined with the zig-zag doesn't flow well either imo. Changed this to 2 spaced streams that change direction.
05:47:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Abrupt spacing and directional changes here. The spacing and directional changes remain the same. However, your suggestion below has been used.
05:50:918 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ As above.
06:53:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This doesn't particularly flow either. Changed this to a circular stream that goes round on itself. This meant that I had to horizontally flip the following jump section.
07:10:043 (8,1) - Kickslider would flow better. Did this and it does flow better.
This doesn't apply to all of these, but the flow in a lot of these are in a straight line, so it feels awkward to suddenly change direction. As for the "jumps", maybe kicksliders would feel better? It makes the movement a lot less jerky and flow much better in most of these cases. I used this for some of the straight streams.

Another thing is things like 01:53:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - , where the music changes tone or instrument but you keep a continuous stream. It's not really a problem and the streams play fine without it, but the map could be a lot more interesting if you mixed in kicksliders and repeat sliders. I'm not too much of a fan of kicksliders and repeat sliders for stream maps, so I kept the streams.

01:08:318 (1,2,3) - Might play better if you follow the main guitar here, your call. I've followed the guitar here.
01:17:018 (3,4,5) - The spacing isn't a big deal, but consistency might be. They don't all need to be the same spacing, but the increase from 0.96x to 1.6x to 1.92x maybe is too much considering it doesn't feel much more intense. The triples were created when I had 2 notes on 1/2 beats and filled in the triple to a pattern. It's probably a bad thing to do though.
This is a problem that is repeated throughout a lot of the song imo (i.e. 04:04:418 (5,6,7) and 04:03:218 (5,6,7) ) so I
01:20:618 (3,4,5) - These ones are really difficult to hit. Change it to a linear flow? I've changed the flow, but not to a linear pattern.

01:22:718 (1,2,3,4) - This overlap doesn't look very nice at all. Work around with the positioning a little bit? I've changed the position of the triple slightly.
There's quite a lot more overlaps in this song. Most of them are pretty okay, but some of them could be much better done. I'll work on trying to find them.

04:49:118 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not a big fan of these jumps. I haven't found a solution for this yet.
07:39:518 (3,4,5,6,7) - The music isn't near intense enough to warrant these jumps. This was definitely mapped for difficulty and as an awareness monitor to catch out players that aren't paying attention until the very end of the map.

A lot of these are just examples that appear throughout the song, but they are pretty similar and apparent to the ones listed. I will try and find them all.

I guess the main problem with this map is the difficulty. I know you want to make this map really difficult, and difficulty is always okay, but you should map for one thing and one thing always: the song, not the difficulty or the map. A lot of these patterns - especially the jumpstreams - feel very forced and not in line with the song itself, only there for the purpose of making the song harder and not to fit the song. That's not how it should be done. I didn't actually map this entirely for difficulty. However, I do see where you are getting at and I do see that parts in my map that do look like I've mapped entirely for difficulty. Except the end of the map, that was mapped entirely for difficulty inspired by the stupid Genryuu Kaiko ending. I have been tracking the star changes in my map though, mainly because it used to be less than 7.00 and I hit the 7 dream (gotta keep it up).

All that being said, I do think a lot of this song is pretty well done. Parts like 03:44:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - flow very well with the music - a lot of the streams play just fine, in fact - and some of the jumps are very fun to play. Just make sure to tone down some of the more extreme stuff.
I'm glad you did enjoy the map and I will continue working on improving it and (hopefully) tuning the extreme stuff.

• - bolded difficulties are the ones that I modded; timestamp of what I modded is included in this case because it’s a Marathon map

1. 00:54:068 (2) – Make it so that the slider tail is stacked over 00:53:918 (1)
2. 01:00:593 (1,2,3,4,5) – What are these mapped to? I don’t hear any beats here. If they’re supposed to be mapped to the guitar, then they’re off; you should have something like this?
   
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3. 01:07:718 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – I think this burst here is a little too long; delete the circle at (5) and move the 1/2 slider at (6) to 01:08:018
4. 01:09:668 (1) – Stretch the spinner so that it starts at 01:09:518 instead
5. 01:30:368 (6) – Make it so that the slider tail stacks with 01:30:218 (5)’s slider tail
6. 01:34:643 (8) – I think this circle is unnecessary since there’s no beat here
7. 01:37:493 (3) – This is timed off; it should be at 01:37:568 instead
8. 02:22:418 (1) – Personally I don’t think the NC here is necessary
9. 02:45:518 (1,3) – Don’t make these so curved; curve them so that they wrap around 02:45:968 (2,4) without overlapping them
   
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   probably not the best example shown here, but you get the idea, right?
   
10. 04:07:118 (1,2,3) – I think these might be a little bit too far apart from each other; maybe make them closer?
11. 04:26:618 (2,4) – Stack these notes
12. 05:15:818 (5) – Perhaps you can make this a 1/2 slider instead of having the stream abruptly end
13. 05:59:918 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – Again, I think the distance between these notes might be a little bit overkill, but I’m not familiar with marathon stream maps, so it’s your call

Doormat wrote:

Hello, from my modding queue. Sorry for the wait!

A DragonForce map!? AND IT’S NEARLY SEVEN MINUTES!? AND IT’S OVER SEVEN STARS!?!? Just be warned I’m not very good at modding anything over 5 stars, and I didn’t go over everything, so- Some people think I'm bonkers...

PS: really awesome guitar solo at 04:49:118 (1)

Difficulties looked at: Legend – 00:00:000 to 06:01:118

• - bolded difficulties are the ones that I modded; timestamp of what I modded is included in this case because it’s a Marathon map

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1. 00:54:068 (2) – Make it so that the slider tail is stacked over 00:53:918 (1) I didn't think this stacked cos of leniency, thanks for this.
2. 01:00:593 (1,2,3,4,5) – What are these mapped to? I don’t hear any beats here. If they’re supposed to be mapped to the guitar, then they’re off; you should have something like this? They certainly flow better with your suggestion, thanks.
   
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3. 01:07:718 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – I think this burst here is a little too long; delete the circle at (5) and move the 1/2 slider at (6) to 01:08:018 I've listened to this and you are right here too. (Damn I like your mods, so specific.)
4. 01:09:668 (1) – Stretch the spinner so that it starts at 01:09:518 instead I've done this.
5. 01:30:368 (6) – Make it so that the slider tail stacks with 01:30:218 (5)’s slider tail I've also done this. I thought it was off because of lenciency (damn leniency).
6. 01:34:643 (8) – I think this circle is unnecessary since there’s no beat here There is a drum beat here, but with the preceding slider, the circle doesn't work to its intended effect. Thanks for pointing out this beat here.
7. 01:37:493 (3) – This is timed off; it should be at 01:37:568 instead It was off, no wonder why I couldn't hit it.
8. 02:22:418 (1) – Personally I don’t think the NC here is necessary NC removed.
9. 02:45:518 (1,3) – Don’t make these so curved; curve them so that they wrap around 02:45:968 (2,4) without overlapping them I've done this. I added in the circles after the sliders the first time round (bad idea). Also, your suggestion was perfectly fine.
   
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   probably not the best example shown here, but you get the idea, right?
   
10. 04:07:118 (1,2,3) – I think these might be a little bit too far apart from each other; maybe make them closer? The spacing here was to differentiate from the first slow sliders in the first chorus. The spacing here will remain.
11. 04:26:618 (2,4) – Stack these notes This time, stack leniency did take over. I could change the leniency later though.
12. 05:15:818 (5) – Perhaps you can make this a 1/2 slider instead of having the stream abruptly end The stream here does flow better with the slider, thanks.
13. 05:59:918 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – Again, I think the distance between these notes might be a little bit overkill, but I’m not familiar with marathon stream maps, so it’s your call This probably isn't a problem with marathon stream maps. Due to the nature of sliders, these jumps are perfectly playable, as tested by me, so it should be fine.

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Sorry for the sort of lacklustre mods; I’m not familiar with modding marathon stream maps. The streams looked fine to me, so I focused mostly on technical things like misplaced notes. Hope this helps, and best of luck It's not always the size of the mod that matters. The 'technical things' were really good, so thanks for your mod. Having a mod is better than nomod (my favourite being Hidden).

Alliiiiiiiance wrote:

Hey! Sorry in advance for my english mistakes and sorry for the wait!

General
• As I couldn't really play your map, for my mod I relied on my eyes and ears so I don't know if all my remarks will be correct
(and I'm a bit maniac with symmetry so..) Don't worry! I don't expect anyone to play my map any time soon.

Legend
Design & stuff
• 01:00:518 (1) It seems to me that this circle is not correctly placed with regard to its combo
• 01:08:918 (1,2,3) Maybe you could make them more symmetrical I've made these more symmetrical.
• 01:17:093 (4) You could place it in the middle of 2,3,5,6,7 I've put the 4 in the middle of the star and I've also done this with 9.
• 01:17:918 (1,3) Perhaps you can put the same distance as there is between 4 and 3 or inversely The pattern here follows the preceding star. I put 3 in the middle of the star.
• 01:37:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6) Put 3 and 6 more in the middle of 1,2 and 4,5? I've done this.
• 01:45:218 (6,7,8) Maybe you could place them in a such way that they woud "blanket" the tail of 1 I've blanketed the tail here.
• 02:13:868 (3) In my opinion you should place it in a way which would more fit in the pattern. Like that for example

SPOILER

I've done something similar to your pattern but I made sure that it was still equidistant to circle 4.

• 02:37:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) Eww where is symmetry? ;A; (yes I'm really, really maniac) I've made this symmetrical by changing the pattern a bit.
• 03:19:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) ^ Same as above.
• 03:59:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) When I selected this combo it seemed to me a bit messy, but the way you placed the circle is pretty logical so It is pretty damn logical, but it's awkward to play.
• 04:21:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) Something disturbs me with the placement of those circles but I don't know what! >.< I should've looked at this pattern by highlighting the combo rather than making the combo.
• 05:29:168 (6,7,8) Perhaps you could approximate them/Place them in a more symmetrical way I didn't intend for this part to have symmetry, so I will not make these symmetrical.
• 05:43:718 (5) Why here? It's half way between the end of the 5 slider and the start of the 6 slider. It is also placed at the centre of the 6 slider.
• 06:14:318 (1,2,3,1,2,3) The 1 at the center? c: I can't put this in the centre without having to shape the preceding stream, which I do not want to do here.

Sliders
• 07:14:768 (7) According to the short note we can hear, I would've put a circle instead of this slider I've replaced the slider with 2 circles.

Circles
• 01:14:018 (8,9,10) Ctrl+G? Ctrl+G.

Sorry. It's my first time modding a marathon map and it's mostly based on design so I don't know if my mod is relevant, hope it'll help!
Thanks for your mod! I think I need more designed based mods at this point, so your help will be much appreciated!

Rendyindo wrote:

Just a little something to add


Add a warning for this :3 becouse after super duper fast cursor move and then a slow choke :3

Deppyforce wrote:

overlap like this is bad 01:12:068 (12,13,14) - cuz the first slider isnt over yet but theres another slider already which make the flow shit also unrankable
atleast do smth like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4202133 so its readable and rankable

no kds

Mewreon wrote:

Deppyforce wrote:

overlap like this is bad 01:12:068 (12,13,14) - cuz the first slider isnt over yet but theres another slider already which make the flow shit also unrankable
atleast do smth like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4202133 so its readable and rankable

no kds

Hello. The slider is clearly over before the next one starts, there's even time to put a 1/2 note circle in between the sliders. If you meant it doesn't fade in the editor before placing another then play the pattern because it feels natural; it matches the song perfectly well (2 strummed chords that are the same).

6:38 drain time map, picks 1 small thing, doesn't even link the other 2 times this happens in the map gg.
Thanks for the half-assed mod!