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peppy
19,315 posts
Here since the beginning
Topic Starter
peppy
In this public build I have decided to phase out the "Prefer new default skin behaviour" option toggle and standardise skins. This means that many users will experience broken skins, or osu! not behaving as they expect. This post will help you resolve the issues.

If you are a player with a custom skin, and are not seeing what you expect:

  1. If you just want to replace a few elements of the default skin (ie. cursor), make sure your skin is named "User". This will ensure you are always using the latest skin version (even without a skin.ini).
  2. If you have more than one user skin and wish to stay up-to-date on all of them, you can use a skin.ini with "Version: latest". Note that you should not use latest for distributed skins.
  3. If you are using a distributed skin and it is misaligned, open the skin.ini and check to see if it has "Version: 2" specified. If it doesn't, try adding this and see if it fixes your issues.
If you are a skinner and your skin no longer works how you expect:

Please read up on skin versioning and the changes you need to make to your skin.ini. Make sure to stay up-to-date with skinning changes, as newer version will allow more features, as well as staying in line with the latest look and feel of osu!.
Uruoki
152 posts
Joined May 2013
Uruoki
Does "Version: latest" default to the behaviors used in "Version: 2" or is there plans for a new version?

The way you worded the post, it sounds like "Version: latest" is not suggested for skin distribution.

Just trying to future proof stuff.
peppy
19,315 posts
Here since the beginning
Topic Starter
peppy
You are 100% correct. Do not use "latest" for skin distribution.
Megatron
33 posts
Joined November 2013
Megatron
Will we ever be able to skin the color of play-warningarrow? Currently osu! makes it so that no matter what the arrows get a red overlay which isn't optimal since I'd really like to make mine blue. Googling this lead me to see that in 2 separate posts you acknowledged this, once by saying that this will be resolved in the next release and the second you said this correct behavior and to avoid it we should de-select "prefer new skin...", unfortunately that second post's solution never worked and now the option is gone.

What should we do if we want to skin the color of the warning arrows, or are you adamant about the red overlay?
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,105 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer
For skins who previously used new skin behaviour, version must be 2.0 and not 2. OP is misleading. (At least it didn't work for me '_>' )
Elzapatoverde
542 posts
Joined December 2013
Elzapatoverde
Well... this happened after the update
SPOILER

And yes, I'm using the "Version: 2". Should I just move the "taiko-drum-inner/outer.png" or you will fix this?
bbshksh
43 posts
Joined May 2014
bbshksh

Elzapatoverde wrote:

I'm not sure if i shoud put this on Technical Support, but this happened after the update
SPOILER

And yes, I'm using the "Version: 2".
this occurs on my taiko mode too.
SPOILER
Lewd
16 posts
Joined November 2013
Lewd
Same thing happening with mine, but in addition my hitsounds dont work for taiko.
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3

Elzapatoverde wrote:

Well... this happened after the update
SPOILER

And yes, I'm using the "Version: 2". Should I just move the "taiko-drum-inner/outer.png" or you will fix this?
Your osu! skin may be version 2 but your taiko elements are not, The taiko skin change was to allow for future skinning to be easier.

You can either edit your elements or change your skins version...

To fix the issue via editing, your inner and outers should occupy a full half width of taiko-bar-left.
SPOILER

bar-left is 360x400px @2x (180x200px 1x)
inner & outers are 180x400px @2x (90x200px 1x)


bbshksh wrote:

this occurs on my taiko mode too.
SPOILER
You have the wrong version being used on your skin it should be version 2...

edit: For better clarity your skin needs to be "whole" including all game mode elements utilizing either version 1 or 2 not both.
Elzapatoverde
542 posts
Joined December 2013
Elzapatoverde
Oh, that explains a lot, thank you.
peppy
19,315 posts
Here since the beginning
Topic Starter
peppy
I'll do a bump for taiko elements, on second thoughts.

Also 2 is the same as 2.0.
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle

peppy wrote:

  1. If you just want to replace a few elements of the default skin (ie. cursor), make sure your skin is named "User". This will ensure you are always using the latest skin version (even without a skin.ini).
I am confused in this part. Can someone explain?
Haskorion
533 posts
Joined September 2013
Haskorion
For example you use a skin that is mostly the default skin with a different cursor or transparent hit300s (no real skin), this skin can be named "User" and doesn't even need a skin.ini. It will always use the latest version.

All other skins are treated as old-styled skins (equals Version:1) if they aren't Version: 2 .
The folder name "User" won't force this on this specific skin.
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle
Ahh, Thanks.
Rika-chan
23 posts
Joined May 2013
Rika-chan
Upon adding Version: 2, the Taiko skin is fixed, however my spinner skin reverts to default. Removing the line fixes the spinner, naturally, but my taiko skin becomes broken again.

Not sure where I should go from there.
Last edited by Rika-chan , edited 1 time in total.
iamthecman
2 posts
Joined January 2013
iamthecman

vowywowy wrote:

Will we ever be able to skin the color of play-warningarrow? Currently osu! makes it so that no matter what the arrows get a red overlay which isn't optimal since I'd really like to make mine blue. Googling this lead me to see that in 2 separate posts you acknowledged this, once by saying that this will be resolved in the next release and the second you said this correct behavior and to avoid it we should de-select "prefer new skin...", unfortunately that second post's solution never worked and now the option is gone.

What should we do if we want to skin the color of the warning arrows, or are you adamant about the red overlay?
just noticed this. Does anyone know a way to fix it?
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle
Put version: 1 line on skin.ini (under [General] ofc)
TakuMii
1,874 posts
Joined October 2009
TakuMii
SPOILER
I have my skin.ini set to Version: 2, but my Taiko skin is still misaligned :/
EDIT: Spoke too soon. Updated again, and I'm not having this issue any more. Thanks for the quick fix!
mintong89
3,698 posts
Joined July 2011
mintong89
I'm set the version to "latest" , Left-bar is already fine but right bar is broken (taiko-right-bar.png)

SPOILER

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1651695
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3

Mintong wrote:

I'm set the version to "latest" , Left-bar is already fine but right bar is broken (taiko-right-bar.png)

SPOILER

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1651695
Your bar-right is short.


Bar-right was extended to reach under bar-left for better aesthetics when bar-lefts right edge is manipulated with things like glow, notches, rounded corners etc.. what ever a skinner can make good use of.



Bar-right is 2048x400px @2x (1024x200px 1x)
(The same metrics apply to the glow)

Here's a zip of the taiko elements with V2.1 position changes for those who want a more direct method of metrics http://puu.sh/94poH/9dd786040b.zip
mintong89
3,698 posts
Joined July 2011
mintong89
thanks, it's fine now \:3/
yoshilove
yoshilove
I have created skin for Version: 1
1280*800

Version: 1

Version: latest

(b20140528.3)

Edit :

RBRat3 wrote:

Those elements are only for version 2.1 all versions prior use the old taiko default metrics.

You will need to use/create elements that are for version 1.
I was able to fix.
Thank you!!
Last edited by yoshilove , edited 1 time in total.
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3
Those elements are only for version 2.1 all versions prior use the old taiko default metrics.

You will need to use/create elements that are for version 1.
dengdengdeng
3 posts
Joined October 2013
dengdengdeng

CarlGel wrote:

Upon adding Version: 2, the Taiko skin is fixed, however my spinner skin reverts to default. Removing the line fixes the spinner, naturally, but my taiko skin becomes broken again.

Not sure where I should go from there.
I have the same problem.

Here is the spinner set
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nabp09a2prcpva9/Test.zip

Spinner works normally without "Version: latest" or "Version:2" in skin.ini
Luna
2,355 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
Since we now need full image sets for old version skins, could you maybe upload a full template skin of all the old elements so we can use those to fill the gaps? Even the most recent template skin from peppy's announcement post doesn't contain all the elements (for example, taiko-drum-inner/outer and taiko-barline - among others - are missing).
Flower
1,723 posts
Joined August 2011
Flower
The skin of https://osu.ppy.sh/b/396554 uses a set of new spinner. As versioning pushes out, we can no longer play with its full spinner skin. Should I write here or in the technical support?
Trick_old_1
Trick_old_1
Not sure what's happening, but my spinners are like this: http://puu.sh/94Lyq/527b8f23fd.jpg

My replay button is like this: http://puu.sh/94LB6/5d9d2bbe14.jpg when it should be like this: http://puu.sh/94LH7/05d06461d9.png

My skin.ini: http://puu.sh/94LZf/0df1e800b2.png

I used the original Life skin, then I customized it to my liking. Added different cursor, slider, spinner, ranking letters, scorebar..pretty much everything except the hitcircles/mods and such. Is there any way to fix those? :v btw, I'm no wiz at skinning, all I know how to do is just replace all the parts of it with different ones so yeah ._.
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle

Tr1cky wrote:

Not sure what's happening, but my spinners are like this: http://puu.sh/94Lyq/527b8f23fd.jpg

My replay button is like this: http://puu.sh/94LB6/5d9d2bbe14.jpg when it should be like this: http://puu.sh/94LH7/05d06461d9.png

vahn10 wrote:

Put version: 1 line on skin.ini (under [General] ofc)
OsuMe65
1,519 posts
Joined May 2011
OsuMe65
acutally, his skin.ini is already in Version: 1
Trick_old_1
Trick_old_1

OsuMe65 wrote:

acutally, his skin.ini is already in Version: 1
^^^^^ http://puu.sh/94Pwm/f43a33aa05.png
And it's still not working :l
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
i don't think Version: 1 ever worked at all. only Version: 2
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle
Yeah, that's strange for me

It worked once a while ago
Trick_old_1
Trick_old_1
just tried Version: 2, same results :| anyone up for a teamviewer or something to check whats wrong here? i've tried tweaking some stuff but nothing will change idunno what else to do
MLGnom
1,365 posts
Joined October 2008
MLGnom

deadbeat wrote:

i don't think Version: 1 ever worked at all. only Version: 2
Worked just fine. If you had Version : 1 and ticked preferred new behaviour, you got old style anyway.
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle


Spinner Files

http://puu.sh/94QzM/67cd5714d9.zip

check this file if it will broke
Haskorion
533 posts
Joined September 2013
Haskorion

Tr1cky wrote:

Not sure what's happening, but my spinners are like this: http://puu.sh/94Lyq/527b8f23fd.jpg

My replay button is like this: http://puu.sh/94LB6/5d9d2bbe14.jpg when it should be like this: http://puu.sh/94LH7/05d06461d9.png

My skin.ini: http://puu.sh/94LZf/0df1e800b2.png

I used the original Life skin, then I customized it to my liking. Added different cursor, slider, spinner, ranking letters, scorebar..pretty much everything except the hitcircles/mods and such. Is there any way to fix those? :v btw, I'm no wiz at skinning, all I know how to do is just replace all the parts of it with different ones so yeah ._.
You have this skin in a folder named as "User". It will always force the latest Version on this folder, ignoring your set Version number.

Just rename your folder to something else like "Life (Edit)" or User2"
4oki
5 posts
Joined May 2014
4oki
Umm, Version: latest did the trick for me with misaligned Taiko elements.
Trick_old_1
Trick_old_1

ReddScorn wrote:

Tr1cky wrote:

Not sure what's happening, but my spinners are like this: http://puu.sh/94Lyq/527b8f23fd.jpg

My replay button is like this: http://puu.sh/94LB6/5d9d2bbe14.jpg when it should be like this: http://puu.sh/94LH7/05d06461d9.png

My skin.ini: http://puu.sh/94LZf/0df1e800b2.png

I used the original Life skin, then I customized it to my liking. Added different cursor, slider, spinner, ranking letters, scorebar..pretty much everything except the hitcircles/mods and such. Is there any way to fix those? :v btw, I'm no wiz at skinning, all I know how to do is just replace all the parts of it with different ones so yeah ._.
You have this skin in a folder named as "User". It will always force the latest Version on this folder, ignoring your set Version number.

Just rename your folder to something else like "Life (Edit)" or User2"
Great, everything was working fine for awhile until this happened. http://puu.sh/94tUF/89079b85e2.jpg

Instead of fading into a black background it just stayed on the songs storyboard. I just keep having problem after problem :x
XFarbeeX
8 posts
Joined August 2013
XFarbeeX
I have the same problem as Tr1cky, though i was able to fix it on two skins by changing the version number to "2.0". But on my other skins the the skin.ini does not have a version section and I can not fix it, and I have already tried to add a version into the script and it did not work.


I would add screen shots but I am to much of a forum noob to figure out how.
Saitolai
13 posts
Joined December 2013
Saitolai
Peppy, I have a question...

Why did you remove this feature? Was it because you make edits of the skin.ini to be specified the latest element on a skin?
Does this make things easier for us or smtg?
Trick_old_1
Trick_old_1
Yeah, I'm still having problems with the spinners. I'll tweak with some stuff and it'll work for awhile, but then it'll just go back like this http://puu.sh/965jQ/71c5e12a72.jpg

i've tried everything not sure what else to do. guess ill just play with full background dim or something
Haskorion
533 posts
Joined September 2013
Haskorion

Tr1cky wrote:

Yeah, I'm still having problems with the spinners. I'll tweak with some stuff and it'll work for awhile, but then it'll just go back like this http://puu.sh/965jQ/71c5e12a72.jpg

i've tried everything not sure what else to do. guess ill just play with full background dim or something

Add SpinnerFadePlayfield: 1 to your skin.ini. it will make the background black again.

Also ask this questions here instead: t/51694/
tiper
tiper
I like the idea, also translated this little guide into russian, but I think, the tech support forum is going to fill the hell up with a lot of questions.
XFarbeeX
8 posts
Joined August 2013
XFarbeeX
Thanks ReddScorn for the help
Ayesha Altugle
3,052 posts
Joined October 2011
Ayesha Altugle

tiper wrote:

I like the idea, also translated this little guide into russian, but I think, the tech support forum is going to fill the hell up with a lot of questions.
I see what you did there
Ayaya
366 posts
Joined August 2013
Ayaya
can someone help me please? the only problem for me at the moment is that it changed my fruit-ryuuta.
I have the one I want in my skin folder but when I play it's not it.
Piine
1,573 posts
Joined March 2012
Piine

Ayaya wrote:

can someone help me please? the only problem for me at the moment is that it changed my fruit-ryuuta.
I have the one I want in my skin folder but when I play it's not it.
For some reason, Millhiore said it still being worked on. Pretty much I am just waiting till the update so we can be able to use our customized ryuutas again.
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3
New skin version uses states like pippi-don on taiko for the catcher.

Fruit-catcher-idle.png
Fruit-catcher-kiai.png
Fruit-catcher-fail.png

But keep in mind these are subject to change.
CallMeCJ_
11 posts
Joined October 2009
CallMeCJ_
With the skin Lumiance: Planckian Locus, the Taiko hit markers are all out of whack. In version 1 and 2, they are skew, but version: latest fixes the error. Also, in every version, the spinner sound in Taiko pitches downward, but pitches up in normal Osu! mode. The error on the ranking screen is only in version 1.


Version 1
SPOILER

Version 2
SPOILER

Version Latest
SPOILER
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3
Leave it at latest or set as version 2.1 if there are no other visual problems accompanying it.
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