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[Archived] Ryuuta's movement is stuck in CtB.

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Kurokami
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Basically sometimes when the first fruit appear at the start of the song or after a break my ryuuta is start to move on its own in one direction until I not press a button again. I tried to change my bindings but its still happened. I can replicate this whenever I want or not want.

And one strange thing is happened when I tried different bindings, I change them to Left=[, Right=], dash=q and I can't dash to right. Ryuuta is standing in one place while glowing.

This is happening since the hiterror update and it bugges me a lot.

1. I dunno what you need to do here.
2. ^
3. ^

Its hard to do a good image about this and with my pc, I can't record video.

119410501 wrote:

But, NOT JUST in these moments, because (rarely) this occurs even in the middle of playing.
Video about this issue

EDIT: Meh, the qouting is sucked.
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119410501
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119410501
I totally agree with this issue!
I thought my keyboard was broken.
Basically, it happens often when: The first beat of the song appears on the screen - When a spinner appears on the screen - When a break is ending and the first beat after the break appears on the screen.
But, NOT JUST in these moments, because (rarely) this occurs even in the middle of playing.
I cannot figure out what is the reason, to me this issue appeared since b20130823.3, but a guy told me he had it even one or two updates before (since b20130821.3), all worked good in b20130815.
Kurokami
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119410501 wrote:

But, NOT JUST in these moments, because (rarely) this occurs even in the middle of playing.
Yeah, altough its hard to recognize. But I often get misses because of this nowadays.

I'm "glad" that this isn't my problem alone. This means peppy did something wrong again. q.q


/Add this to the OP too.
Saten
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Saten
Is this related? t/144606
Kurokami
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Saten wrote:

Is this related? t/144606
Nope, because it isn't the dash which is stucking. Just the normal movement and just for a few seconds but thats more than enough to get a few miss or depending on the map even fail is possible. And the dash stuck is appeared a long time ago but this one is just a few builts before around when the ctb key overlay came in the public built too.
119410501
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119410501

Kurokami wrote:

Saten wrote:

Is this related? t/144606
Nope, because it isn't the dash which is stucking. Just the normal movement and just for a few seconds but thats more than enough to get a few miss or depending on the map even fail is possible. And the dash stuck is appeared a long time ago but this one is just a few builts before around when the ctb key overlay came in the public built too.
Yeah, and I think the cause of both problems are totally different ones.
Kurokami
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Bump, since its really annoying. Also, maybe this is happens around 10k users or so. I'm not sure about this, but when I'm offline this is just rarely happens.
peppy
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The only way this can happen is if another app on your system is hooking the keyboard, and taking too long to return. Try closing ALL other apps, maybe checking for virii/keyloggers, and trying again.
Kurokami
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Well, I runned AVG but it found nothing. Is there any other good program which is able to detect it?

And another piece of information, as long as key is "pressed" I can't use any other keys. I tried to pause osu! till it gone, but it is just not worked out.
119410501
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119410501

peppy wrote:

The only way this can happen is if another app on your system is hooking the keyboard, and taking too long to return. Try closing ALL other apps, maybe checking for virii/keyloggers, and trying again.
I have some friends that have the same issue.

It's like, during the lead in of the objects, right when a break ends and beats are going to appear, there is a specific interval in which if you press a key the ryuuta will go to that direction in an unwanted way, it loses control and goes to that direction while I'm not pressing any button (or even pressing buttons).

It's getting really annoying, tonight I played and had this issue all the time even by restarting osu! several times, I always have to wait a bit without moving when: Song starts, break ends.
Kurokami
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Shameless bump. And this is happening in taiko too. But there the buttons are not even working even if I'm pressing them.
Lilabloom
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Lilabloom
might be a 3 days since last post, but meeeh.

i'm a ctb player myself. i play roughly about 100+ times pr day (probably more, i don't really count how much i play).

i have never ever once experienced anything close to this. not a single time, which leads me to believe it's some of your stuff on your pc which is running in the background, so suggestion. clean your stuff and close whatever you don't need (theres mostlikely alot, as people tend to just close a few things and leaving alot open in the background).

random suggestion, if you had a driver on a disc or had to download a driver for your keyboard, remove it, restart windows and check.. (just a suggestion, no clue if it will solve anything)
peppy
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as i said, an app is hooking your keyboard. remove any apps which change keyboard behaviour (special functionality for razer keybaords, hotkey apps etc)
Kurokami
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Damn, this is a shit laptop why I even need a keyboard driver for razer kb? And personally I hate gamer keyboards since they are useless. And no, nothing is running in the background.

SPOILER

EDIT: Tell me instead of flaming my pc, why osu! is using 80%+ from cpu while I'm playing? Until recently it was around 50%.
119410501
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peppy wrote:

as i said, an app is hooking your keyboard. remove any apps which change keyboard behaviour (special functionality for razer keybaords, hotkey apps etc)
How can so many people have the same program hooking their keyboard since that specific update?
I'm getting always more and more people with the same issue and since the same time
TheVileOne
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@kuro It could be many issues why it takes more processing power. You could be using more intensive filters or downloaded enough songs to make filters you usually use more intensive. Other programs could be trying to access processing power at the same time that osu! needs it to run. Your power unit may be malfunctioning, which can slow down your processor or it may just need some cleaning.

@119 This is what technical people call an incompatibility.
Kurokami
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Your power unit may be malfunctioning,
Malfunctioning, yes, every time when I start osu! and start playing. I can play many more games which requires even better cpu than I has, but only osu! is using 80%. And this is a very clean installation and I already cleaned several times since this problem is appeared. Nothing helpes.

Enough songs? I need to laugh. I previously had 10k+, now have only 6k. And there was no problem with above 10k. So why now? And why the filters only came out while I'm playing? If I'm at the song selection the cpu usage is just 40%. And to be honest, I'm not using any filter at all.

Seriously, stop telling me its my computer fault and start investigate this shit.
Marcin
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... We're assuming it's your computer fault since it doesn't happen for anyone except you. If we cannot replicate this, it cannot be fixed within osu!...
peppy
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I haven't heard of others with this issue.
TheVileOne
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I'm certainly not experiencing this problem. 27% load on a AMD Athlon 3400+. We can't really help you with this issue unless you provide more details about how you're using osu! and what system specifications you have. Unless you believe this is related to keys sticking it would be a good idea to provide such details in a separate thread.
Kurokami
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peppy wrote:

I haven't heard of others with this issue.
Oh, so you are blind, well thats not my problem. Please read 119's post until now. He said the same thing. And maybe ask him for names since ha said he found more and more people with this problem.

I tried myself on my friends computer and this one is not appeared there too, but that means nothing.

TheVileOne wrote:

how you're using osu! and what system specifications you have. Unless you believe this is related to keys sticking it would be a good idea to provide such details in a separate thread.
I won't do another thread about this issue. It will be marked as copy anyways.
This is an Acer Aspire 5310
http://miniputer.com/Acer/Aspire_5310.html
Except I have 1GB Ram and a brand new 160GB HDD.
119410501
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119410501
Me, Kurokami, this guy http://osu.ppy.sh/u/1169796 (talked about it time ago on #ctb), this guy http://osu.ppy.sh/u/464788 (same talk on #ctb), this guy who made a duplicate t/155287 and I wonder who else

How to replicate:
Start a song and move quickly left right at the very beginning until the first beat appearing on screen, it does it often in this condition to me
Kurokami
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I will map a demo map with a few objects just for the easy pass and make replay when it is stucking then ask someone who has a good computer to record it for me. It won't help to find the source but at least it will be visual. I hope that will help a bit.

EDIT: As you see peppy you and everyone else except a few of us in this thread were wrong. This happens with not just me but with a few other players out there as well.
MillhioreF
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Does anyone who suffers from this issue get less than 60fps sometimes? There are some apps that have this problem after a lagspike, and if your computers are bad enough, it might be possible for something similar to happen in osu! (the first beat of the song and spinners have heavier load than normal)
119410501
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119410501

MillhioreF wrote:

Does anyone who suffers from this issue get less than 60fps sometimes? There are some apps that have this problem after a lagspike, and if your computers are bad enough, it might be possible for something similar to happen in osu! (the first beat of the song and spinners have heavier load than normal)
I don't go under 60fps, but as I thought, it may be the problem, but it never happened with older versions of the game.
peppy
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I'm not even going to consider this until we have some videos/screencaps of it happening.
Kurokami
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My fps is also stays above 60, maybe it drops a bit bellow 120 but not that much.

As I said peppy, that video maybe not help at all. The only way to help if the key overlay shows that the button is not pressed but osu! is still sense that way. Well, I'm not using that overlay but maybe when the recording happen will work out somehow.
Kurokami
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Eh, okay double post but I want to alert everyone who is following this thread that the video is added to the OP.
119410501
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Kurokami wrote:

Video about this issue
As I expected, the wrong movement (movement at 0:09) is still showen in the keys overlays even if keys are not actually pressed.
And yeah, this is the same problem I have too, it happened before the first beats falling.
It's confirmed we're all talking about the same issue, and it's impossible that everybody has the same "software that slowen keyboard".
Kurokami
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This is still happening. o.o Altough it seem that this is occurs when osu! is starting to eat more memory. Restart is temporary resolve this but not forever. The other options is that this happens when more that 10k user is online. You can choose one of them.
Kurokami
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I revive it since I reinstalled my whole os on Tuesday and this shit is still happening. For me it is clear that this has nothing to do with keyloggers. And even if it is a keylogger then why things like this are just happening with osu!? I played several other games and never experienced this shit.


Edit: Someone, who can do it, please change the title to "Ryuuta's movement stuck in CtB". The current one is sucks. orz
TheVileOne
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Sounds like you have bad drivers. If this was a bug, then everyone would be experiencing it.
Kurokami
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Bad drivers? For what? Keyboard? I need to laught. And I setup an entirelly different version of xp and only needed video card and sound card driver. And why this is came 2 month after the os install? The drivers remained the same so for me its clear that this has nothing to do with drivers nor some kind of keylogger. And still, I think I'm not the only one with this problem.
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