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zts - lastendconductor [Taiko]

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Ayyri
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Ayyri
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 10:37:51 AM

Artist: zts
Title: lastendconductor
Source: うみねこのなく頃に散
Tags: umineko no naku koro ni chiru visual novel ange ushiromiya 07th expansion ep8 czl code zts label musicbox red stefan
BPM: 139
Filesize: 8143kb
Play Time: 05:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. lastoniconductor (4.2 stars, 1767 notes)
Download: zts - lastendconductor
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lastendconductor

Collab with Stefan

Parts
Ayyri: 00:07:165 - to 00:20:978 -
Stefan: 00:20:978 - to 00:34:791 -
Ayyri: 00:34:791 - to 00:48:604 -
Stefan: 00:48:604 - to 01:02:417 -
Ayyri: 01:02:417 - to 01:16:230 -
Stefan: 01:16:230 - to 01:30:043 -
Ayyri: 01:30:043 - to 01:43:856 -
Stefan: 01:43:856 - to 01:57:669 -
Ayyri: 01:57:669 - to 02:11:698 -
Stefan: 02:11:698 - to 02:25:295 -
Ayyri: 02:25:295 - to 02:39:108 -
Stefan: 02:39:108 - to 02:52:921 -
Ayyri: 02:52:921 - to 03:06:734 -
Stefan: 03:06:734 - to 03:20:547 -
Ayyri: 03:20:547 - to 03:34:360 -
Break: 03:34:360 - to 03:47:094 -
Ayyri:03:47:094 - to 04:01:986 -
Stefan: 04:01:986 - to 04:15:799 -
Ayyri: 04:15:799 - to 04:33:065 -
Stefan: 04:33:065 - to 04:46:878 -
Ayyri: 04:46:878 - to 05:00:691 -
Stefan: 05:00:691 - to 05:14:504 -
Ayyri: 05:14:504 - to 05:24:863 -
Stefan: 05:24:863 - to 05:33:496 -
Last edited by Ayyri , edited 11 times in total.
Jonarwhal
1,216 posts
Joined November 2013
Jonarwhal
NM req'd in game

You should write the parts somewhere.
00:07:165 - Ayyri
00:20:978 - Stefan
00:34:791 - Ayyri
etc.
~attempted mod~
  1. 00:21:194 (84) - k, the pitch and sound match 00:21:302 (85) - this, not 00:20:978 (83) - this (pattern repeats 00:24:648 (108) - 00:31:554 (155) - )
  2. 00:38:029 (197,198,199,200,201) - / 00:40:619 (213,214,215,216,217) - / 00:46:446 (248,249,250,251,252) - make these the same
  3. 01:05:655 (370,371) - differentiate these, the pitch is very different, try 01:19:468 (451,452,453,454) - matching it with here, or using a ddkk or kkdd pattern, or something else
  4. 01:22:921 (471,472) - differentiate these, the pitch is very different, try 01:22:813 (470,471,472) - dkd
  5. 01:46:446 (614,615,616,617,618,619,620) - to avoid the back/forth here, try 01:46:878 (616,617,618,619) - KkDd or something
  6. 02:44:719 (925,926) - make these the same
  7. 02:49:036 (953,954) - ^
  8. I looked through the rest and found nothing.
I hope that helps. ^^
Good luck!
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
IRC Mod
22:47 Ayyri: fan
22:47 Ayyri: update umineko map
22:47 Ayyri: thanks bb
22:47 Stefan: lastend?
22:47 Ayyri: yes
22:49 Stefan: ok!
22:49 Ayyri: :D!
22:49 Ayyri: mod it pls bb
23:05 Stefan: IRC mod?
23:11 Ayyri: ye
23:28 Stefan: ok
23:28 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1031056 zts - lastendconductor [lastoniconductor]]
23:28 Ayyri: fan
23:28 Ayyri: ok
23:29 Ayyri: it i'll ask you later on discord
23:29 Stefan: o.o?
23:30 Stefan: 00:12:130 - This sounds and plays really odd
23:30 Stefan: While you have no break on 00:08:676 -
23:30 Stefan: this shouldn't be here as well
23:31 Ayyri: Should 00:12:130 - be dkd then?
23:31 Stefan: d alone looks enough imo
23:32 Ayyri: that's what i thought tbh
23:32 Ayyri: only said dkd since it would match with 00:08:676 -
23:33 Ayyri: i think that 00:08:784 - could be removed and add a d at 00:09:216 -
23:34 Stefan: Make (9) to k then
23:34 Stefan: 00:16:878 (57,58,59,60,61) - could work as ddkdk too
23:35 Ayyri: changed both of those things
23:37 Stefan: 00:20:331 (79,80,81,82,83) - kkddk or kdddk
23:37 Stefan: I think the first note should be k
23:37 Stefan: while the last three notes should end with ddk
23:38 Stefan: 00:20:439 - is pretty optional
23:38 Stefan: however you would like it
23:38 Ayyri: i think kkddk works good
23:40 Stefan: 00:24:324 - remove it for me please
23:40 Stefan: :D
23:41 Ayyri: okay :D
23:42 Stefan: Make this to dkd 00:26:375 (118,119,120) -
23:42 Stefan: 00:27:022 (122,123) - make this as kkd
23:43 Ayyri: http://i.imgur.com/hWAoP2o.png
23:43 Ayyri: ?
23:44 Stefan: yes
23:44 Ayyri: oki
23:45 Stefan: 00:36:086 (186,187,188,189,190,191,192) - kdk k kdk
23:45 Stefan: Fits better imo.
23:46 Ayyri: implying moving 00:36:626 - to 00:36:842 - ?
23:47 Stefan: yes
23:47 Ayyri: ok
23:53 Stefan: r00:43:856 (234) - k here?
23:53 Stefan: 00:38:676 (202,203,204,205,206) - and this to k d kdk
23:55 Ayyri: changed both
00:05 Stefan: 00:53:245 (295,296,297) - change this to dd k
00:06 Ayyri: do you want 00:53:137 - removed?
00:06 Stefan: No
00:06 Stefan: it should be kdddd k then
00:07 Ayyri: ok
00:07 Stefan: 01:07:381 (381) - k maybe?
00:08 Ayyri: that works
00:08 Stefan: 01:08:676 (389,390,391,392,393) - either make 389,390,391 to a 1/6 part or just keep it simple with kdk d
00:10 Ayyri: if i were to do 1/6 what pattern would you suggest
00:11 Stefan: kkkk would work
00:11 Stefan: imo
00:11 Ayyri: aight
00:11 Ayyri: k kkkk k
00:11 Ayyri: is the pattern now
00:12 Stefan: You don't make 01:09:108 - as d?
00:12 Ayyri: that sounds better ye
00:12 Ayyri: didn't think you'd wanna change that tho
00:18 Stefan: wao
00:18 Stefan: I had a dc
00:20 Stefan: 01:22:058 - 01:23:137 - Change this part like this: http://derpovic.s-ul.eu/YYJAjgkc
00:22 Stefan: 01:31:770 (526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533) - d ddk kdk -> what do you think about this idea?
00:23 Ayyri: D:
00:23 Ayyri: let me see
00:24 Ayyri: http://i.imgur.com/j1C72R2.png
00:24 Ayyri: ?
00:25 Stefan: yes
00:26 Ayyri: remove 01:22:345 -
00:26 Ayyri: and move 01:22:201 - to 01:22:273 -
00:27 Ayyri: also the suggestion at 01:31:770 - works
00:27 Stefan: :3
00:27 Stefan: okay.
00:28 Ayyri: did you try the thing at 01:22:058 - to 01:22:705 - ?
00:28 Ayyri: actually
00:28 Ayyri: removing 01:22:417 - too would sound better
00:29 Stefan: Hmm yeah
00:29 Stefan: sounds right
00:29 Ayyri: http://i.imgur.com/5TEVqqg.png
00:35 Stefan: 01:37:166 - I don't really get the break here
00:35 Stefan: if you ask me
00:35 Stefan: 01:41:698 - and this one
00:35 Ayyri: because of the held violin
00:36 Stefan: 01:46:878 (617) - remove the finisher here
00:36 Stefan: then 01:41:266 (584,585,586) - should be changed
00:36 Ayyri: i literally
00:36 Ayyri: asked you about that
00:36 Ayyri: and you said it was intentional
00:36 Ayyri: lol
00:36 Stefan: What
00:36 Stefan: when did you
00:36 Ayyri: when you mapped that
00:36 Ayyri: like months ago
00:36 Stefan: Wait
00:37 Stefan: what
00:37 Stefan: my memory is a slowpoke ;_;
00:38 Ayyri: D:
00:38 Ayyri: http://i.imgur.com/zs3PDlm.png
00:38 Ayyri: cursor at 01:41:698 -
00:39 Stefan: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
00:40 Stefan: Well, I don't really like the idea itself but it's okay I guess
00:47 Stefan: 02:41:590 - remove this note
00:47 Stefan: 02:48:496 - and this one
00:48 Stefan: 02:52:921 - 02:56:374 - Generally I would suggest to map this a little more denser
00:48 Stefan: but that's up to you.
00:50 Ayyri: i added some more notes to those sections and removed the two ntoes that you said to
00:55 Stefan: 03:20:763 (1137) - I find the note works way better on the next white tick
00:55 Stefan: on 03:20:978 -
00:55 Ayyri: that's following the background noise tho
00:56 Stefan: The current setting is really weird tho :s
00:56 Stefan: but up to you.
00:56 Ayyri: i gotcha
00:56 Ayyri: i moved it tho
00:57 Stefan: 03:22:273 (1145,1146,1147,1148,1149) - make this as k ddk
00:57 Stefan: I don't think a five-circle combo works here well
00:57 Stefan: it sounds off to me
00:58 Ayyri: changed
00:59 Stefan: 03:27:993 (1185) - delete?
00:59 Ayyri: done
01:01 Stefan: 05:16:662 (464,465,466,467,468,469) - You should emphasize the long sound here
01:01 Stefan: make this as k kdddk
01:02 Stefan: 05:19:468 - What's the purpose of the break here?
01:02 Ayyri: ctrl+g those?
01:02 Ayyri: or what
01:03 Stefan: Yes
01:03 Stefan: Pretty much
01:03 Stefan: 05:16:662 - needs to be k then
01:03 Ayyri: 05:16:662 - k?
01:03 Ayyri: tw
01:03 Ayyri: ye*
01:03 Stefan: ww
01:03 Ayyri: vv
01:03 Ayyri: the held note isn't as strong there
01:04 Stefan: I will see how I am going to nerf 04:33:065 - 04:46:878 - since it really doesn't work with your next part
01:04 Ayyri: 05:19:468 - could be dkk
01:04 Ayyri: aight
01:04 Stefan: Yeah, dkk sounds good here.
01:04 Ayyri: :D
01:05 Stefan: that's all.
Ayyri
Topic Starter
Ayyri

Jonawaga wrote:

You should write the parts somewhere. Already done so.

~attempted mod~
  1. 00:38:029 (197,198,199,200,201) - / 00:40:619 (213,214,215,216,217) - / 00:46:446 (248,249,250,251,252) - make these the same Somewhat similar sound, but there should be variation between them, since it's the theme for that section.
  2. 01:05:655 (370,371) - differentiate these, the pitch is very different, try 01:19:468 (451,452,453,454) - matching it with here, or using a ddkk or kkdd pattern, or something else What you are suggesting doesn't quite work here. But I think that ddk k works instead.
  3. I looked through the rest and found nothing. :D
I hope that helps. ^^ Indeed, it did. :3
Good luck! Thank you!
Epsile
93 posts
Joined February 2014
Epsile
hey hey hey

lastoniconductor
00:10:403 (20,21) - Ctrl+G
00:27:454 (126,127,128,129,130) - Make this pattern kdkkd.
00:34:036 (175) - Maybe make this a k.
00:35:223 (182) - Make this k because of the tone of the music.
01:13:856 (422,423,424) - You could make this a 1/6 burst, like dkkd or something like that. I know this is an oni, but at the same time you also had a 1/6 note 01:08:676 (390,391,392,393) - here. Just a suggestion, though.
01:22:058 (467,468,469,470,471,472) - Maybe make one of these a 1/6 stream.
01:25:943 (490,491,492,493) - Make this a triplet, not a 1/6 stream.
01:27:670 (501,502,503) - If you wanna use a 1/6, use it here. c:
01:53:137 (657,658,659,660) - Again, make this a triplet.
01:54:001 (663,664,665) - Same as above. 1/6 stream here is more appropriate.
02:04:576 (712) - Make this a d.
02:19:037 (777,778,779,780) - Make a 5 note pattern here. Maybe add a k 02:19:360 - here.
02:25:942 (815,816,817,818) - Make this a 5 note pattern. kkddk would be appropriate.
03:05:871 (1052,1053,1054,1055,1056,1057,1058) - You should make this one consecutive stream. ddddkkkkd.
03:53:137 (18) - Make this a k.
03:55:295 (26,27) - Maybe make these two k's? Either that or just make 26 a k.
03:59:612 (36) - Make this a k.
04:47:957 (297) - ^
04:56:158 (341) - ^
That's all I got.

Good luck with ranking this!
Ayyri
Topic Starter
Ayyri

Epsile wrote:

hey hey hey

lastoniconductor
00:10:403 (20,21) - Ctrl+G Changed.
00:35:223 (182) - Make this k because of the tone of the music. I disagree with this. I think that 00:35:223 - is a lower pitch than 00:35:439 - so they should be mapped differently.
01:13:856 (422,423,424) - You could make this a 1/6 burst, like dkkd or something like that. I know this is an oni, but at the same time you also had a 1/6 note 01:08:676 (390,391,392,393) - here. Just a suggestion, though. I think that kddk would work better for 1/6 here.
02:04:576 (712) - Make this a d. Changed.
02:25:942 (815,816,817,818) - Make this a 5 note pattern. kkddk would be appropriate. Changed.
03:05:871 (1052,1053,1054,1055,1056,1057,1058) - You should make this one consecutive stream. ddddkkkkd. Changed to kddkkdk instead.
03:53:137 (18) - Make this a k. Changed.
03:55:295 (26,27) - Maybe make these two k's? Either that or just make 26 a k. Made both of them k's.
03:59:612 (36) - Make this a k. Changed.
04:47:957 (297) - ^ Changed.
04:56:158 (341) - ^ Changed.
That's all I got.

Good luck with ranking this! Thank you! :D
katacheh
273 posts
Joined June 2015
katacheh
Hi~ M4M→https://osu.ppy.sh/s/477590

lastoniconductor
00:00:691 () - add a spinner ><?

00:18:604 (69,70,71,72) - add to kdkd dk

00:54:756 (304,305) - delete

01:22:058 (468,469,470,471,472,473) - Feel wierd Maybe kddk dddk

01:27:670 (502,503,504) - kddk

01:51:842 (648,649,650,651) - kddk

01:55:942 (675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689) - kdkkdkddkkdkddk →follow that sound(? I don't know what is it..)

03:05:763 (1) - add k

04:31:122 (177,178,179,180,181,182) - Maybe ddkdkddkd

GoodLuck! :)
Ayyri
Topic Starter
Ayyri

katacheh wrote:

Hi~ M4M→https://osu.ppy.sh/s/477590

lastoniconductor
00:00:691 () - add a spinner ><? I thought about doing that, but it doesn't really need it.

00:18:604 (69,70,71,72) - add to kdkd dk I'm not entirely sure about this, since there aren't really important beats there. But I'll see what Stefan says about it.

01:55:942 (675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689) - kdkkdkddkkdkddk →follow that sound(? I don't know what is it..) Changed.

03:05:763 (1) - add k ??? This is already k.

04:31:122 (177,178,179,180,181,182) - Maybe ddkdkddkd I wanted to emphasize how the song was calming down, especially at 04:31:770 - So a stream would not work here.

GoodLuck! :) Thank you! :)
ZTH
254 posts
Joined November 2014
ZTH
Hi~ From M4M request.

General

  1. Countdown.
  2. SV is bugged.

lastoniconductor

  1. 00:18:604 (69,70,71,72,73,74) - I am assuming that this 4,2 plet pattern is made for variety purposes but imo it feels out of place. I would just keep using 5 plet patterns by moving 00:19:144 (73) to 00:19:036 (and make it kdddk) to keep the simple and smooth flow.
  2. 00:26:807 (124) - Change it to k to keep the constant 2/1 rhythm.
  3. 00:32:526 (165,166) - Ctrl+g? Seems to accommodate the flow along with the next long pattern.
  4. 00:38:029 (200) - Change to k. d is a bit bland.
  5. 00:53:785 (300) - Change to d? Goes well with alternate don kat flow. (Also the melody pitch decreases.)
  6. 01:33:389 (540) - I don't see a reason to use a long pattern here as it feels quite forced. Move this note to 01:33:820 for consistent pattern usage.
  7. 02:25:295 to 02:32:201 - A bit confused on what you are focusing here. Personally, I would modify some patterns so that the whole verse follows the snares. See the link below (White bar at 02:27:022):
    http://puu.sh/qjuYk/a9aa9f87b8.jpg
  8. 02:54:648 (990,991) - Ctrl+g. k d is a bit abrasive on my tastes.
  9. 03:25:403 (1176) - Minor but change to k? Sounds somewhat better and gives more pattern variety.
  10. 03:27:453 - Don't like the use of 5-plet here since it weakens the flow. I would rather delete 03:27:345 (1190), change 03:27:237 (1189) to k and change 03:27:453 (1190) to d. The pause emphasizes the previous and next notes and indicates to the players that the new verse is starting.
  11. 03:47:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ehhhh. Not a fan of these continuous 1/2 notes. I would rather delete 03:47:309 (2) and 03:48:173 (6) so that the remaining notes focus on the distinct melody, which highlights more on the music.
  12. 04:27:777 (156) - Move this note to 04:29:072 for smoother flow.
  13. 04:31:230 (178) - Would delete this note for more emphasis on the proceeding drums.
  14. 04:52:705 (322,323,324,325) - Instead of d kdd (which sounds a bit awkward), try k ddk.
  15. 04:56:806 (346,347) - Ctrl+g for pitch and instruments wise.
  16. 04:58:964 (357,358,359) - Maybe change it to ddk? Flows more naturally.
  17. 05:00:475 (370) - Change to k for more accentuated climax. You can hear the increased drums and melody here.
  18. 05:00:691 to 05:14:504 - The note density in this area is lower than 04:33:065 to 04:46:878. Is this intentional? The song seems to stress much more at the later point so giving it an equal or higher note density sounds optimal.
  19. 05:19:576 (484) - Move this note to 05:20:223 and change it to d. Less triplets, more diversity.
  20. 05:21:410 (495,496) - Ctrl+g. Simply sounds better.
  21. 05:24:648 (515) - Change to k. Same reason as 05:00:475 (370).

Well that song was somewhat hard to mod. Anyways, these are all the major stuff that I can find. Some parts can be improved though by focusing more on appropriate lengths and pauses.

Still, GL~
Ayyri
Topic Starter
Ayyri

ZTH wrote:

Hi~ From M4M request.

General

  1. Countdown.
  2. SV is bugged. Like before, SV is fine. AiMod does that.

lastoniconductor

  1. 00:18:604 (69,70,71,72,73,74) - I am assuming that this 4,2 plet pattern is made for variety purposes but imo it feels out of place. I would just keep using 5 plet patterns by moving 00:19:144 (73) to 00:19:036 (and make it kdddk) to keep the simple and smooth flow. Moved, but made it kdkdd instead.
  2. 00:38:029 (200) - Change to k. d is a bit bland. Changed.
  3. 01:33:389 (540) - I don't see a reason to use a long pattern here as it feels quite forced. Move this note to 01:33:820 for consistent pattern usage. Moved.
  4. 02:25:295 to 02:32:201 - A bit confused on what you are focusing here. Personally, I would modify some patterns so that the whole verse follows the snares. See the link below (White bar at 02:27:022): Changed.
    http://puu.sh/qjuYk/a9aa9f87b8.jpg
  5. 02:54:648 (990,991) - Ctrl+g. k d is a bit abrasive on my tastes. I disagree with this, I want to emphasize the next rhythm after 02:54:216 - at 02:54:648 -
  6. 03:25:403 (1176) - Minor but change to k? Sounds somewhat better and gives more pattern variety. Changed.
  7. 03:27:453 - Don't like the use of 5-plet here since it weakens the flow. I would rather delete 03:27:345 (1190), change 03:27:237 (1189) to k and change 03:27:453 (1190) to d. The pause emphasizes the previous and next notes and indicates to the players that the new verse is starting. Changed.
  8. 03:47:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ehhhh. Not a fan of these continuous 1/2 notes. I would rather delete 03:47:309 (2) and 03:48:173 (6) so that the remaining notes focus on the distinct melody, which highlights more on the music. As minor as it is, I'd want to keep the notes at 03:47:309 - and 03:48:173 - to follow the held out piano there.
  9. 04:27:777 (156) - Move this note to 04:29:072 for smoother flow. Changed.
  10. 04:31:230 (178) - Would delete this note for more emphasis on the proceeding drums. Changed.
  11. 04:52:705 (322,323,324,325) - Instead of d kdd (which sounds a bit awkward), try k ddk. Changed.
  12. 04:56:806 (346,347) - Ctrl+g for pitch and instruments wise. Changed.
  13. 04:58:964 (357,358,359) - Maybe change it to ddk? Flows more naturally. Changed.
  14. 05:00:475 (370) - Change to k for more accentuated climax. You can hear the increased drums and melody here. Changed.
  15. 05:19:576 (484) - Move this note to 05:20:223 and change it to d. Less triplets, more diversity. Changed.
  16. 05:21:410 (495,496) - Ctrl+g. Simply sounds better. Changed.
  17. 05:24:648 (515) - Change to k. Same reason as 05:00:475 (370). Changed.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan

Jonawaga wrote:

NM req'd in game

You should write the parts somewhere.
00:07:165 - Ayyri
00:20:978 - Stefan
00:34:791 - Ayyri
etc.
~attempted mod~
  1. 00:21:194 (84) - k, the pitch and sound match 00:21:302 (85) - this, not 00:20:978 (83) - this (pattern repeats 00:24:648 (108) - 00:31:554 (155) - ) I like to use dkd since the song offers the possibility to build a own rhythm, your suggestion is justified however I decide not to change this.
  2. 01:46:446 (614,615,616,617,618,619,620) - to avoid the back/forth here, try 01:46:878 (616,617,618,619) - KkDd or something A big note in 1/6? Are you sure that's good?
  3. 02:44:719 (925,926) - make these the same ?
  4. 02:49:036 (953,954) - ^ ?²
  5. I looked through the rest and found nothing.
I hope that helps. ^^
Good luck!

Epsile wrote:

hey hey hey

lastoniconductor
00:27:454 (126,127,128,129,130) - Make this pattern kdkkd. yo
00:34:036 (175) - Maybe make this a k. Sounds pretty odd imo, ddkkd... is safer.
01:22:058 (467,468,469,470,471,472) - Maybe make one of these a 1/6 stream. Yup, fixed.
01:25:943 (490,491,492,493) - Make this a triplet, not a 1/6 stream. Sounds right.
01:27:670 (501,502,503) - If you wanna use a 1/6, use it here. c: I think that's okay to stay as 1/4.
01:53:137 (657,658,659,660) - Again, make this a triplet. That fits with 1/6 fine.
01:54:001 (663,664,665) - Same as above. 1/6 stream here is more appropriate. True!
02:19:037 (777,778,779,780) - Make a 5 note pattern here. Maybe add a k 02:19:360 - here. I prefer the current settings.
That's all I got.

Good luck with ranking this!

katacheh wrote:

Hi~ M4M→https://osu.ppy.sh/s/477590

lastoniconductor
00:54:756 (304,305) - delete Aye

01:22:058 (468,469,470,471,472,473) - Feel wierd Maybe kddk dddk Fixed.

01:27:670 (502,503,504) - kddk dkd looks and sounds better to me.

01:51:842 (648,649,650,651) - kddk Done.

01:55:942 (675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689) - kdkkdkddkkdkddk →follow that sound(? I don't know what is it..) I made some changes here but soundwise it's good.

GoodLuck! :)

heheh

Take the update for now, will check ZTH's mod later again
osu file format v14

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bananannian
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Wall of text warning because this is a 2kds mod and I like nitpicking

Sorry Ayyri I only modded Stefan's part
00:22:273 (95) - in this section you generally have d for every white tick, so d? Same sound in the music at 00:24:000 and 00:25:727 you've mapped as d too, so this would be consistent.
00:27:993 - sound in the music left unmapped :\ up to you tho
00:33:928 (176,178,180) - on these 3 notes there are bass drum kicks, so you could perhaps change the stream to this


00:53:137 (296) - k for both high note on the guitar and snares (?)
00:58:964 (332) - add finish? deserve it imo
00:59:180 (333,334,335,336) - ddk d, so the snares at 00:59:396 is clearly distinguished as a k with d's on either side, and I think having k's on the 2nd and 4th beat of this measure is a good "pulse", I don't know how to describe this without going into very musical terminology lol

01:18:820 (450) - since for this section you've been using k to emphasize the violin melodic line and this note in particular is a strong beat on the melody, I think using k here is warrented... If you accept this suggestion though you might want to change 01:19:036 (451,452,453,454) to either dddd or dddk so there's no k spam
01:21:194 (464) - could be k, up to you
01:22:058 - erm I don't really hear the 1/6s in the music here... if you want to keep them for like stylistic purposes that's fine, but 1/4s would be a safer bet
01:25:511 (492) - d to offer a clear contrast for 01:25:727 (493) which is the start of the next phrase in the violin
01:27:669 - I hear 1/6s! no 1/6s? could be fun :D
01:29:180 (514) - k for violins perhaps

01:47:201 - sound in the music left unmapped :\ ddk here would break up the imo boring chain of 1/2's
01:49:683 - same as 01:22:058, don't hear the 1/6s here
01:50:655 - same as 01:47:201
01:56:050 (679) - perhaps move this note to 01:55:835, there's a clear bass drum sound at 01:55:835 when listening at 50% playback

02:12:561 (750,751) - switch because if I'm hearing this correctly there's a very faint snare on 02:12:777
02:16:446 (769) - k for the same reasons as above
02:20:871 (792) - I think you could delete this note so instead of a 5-plet starting before the melody you have a triplet starting ON the melody at 02:20:978, giving it a bit more oomph

02:41:050 (905) - optional k for the hihat
02:43:209 (919,920,921) - I think for a long sustained note in the melody ddd or dkd sounds better than kkk; k is a high pitched sound and can be heard very clearly so if the player's going kkk they would expect to hear a matching tone in the music for each k, but that's not the case here, so I would recommend ddd or dkd
02:44:935 (931) - k?
02:47:957 (949) - same as 02:41:050 (905)
02:52:381 - I feel like you could add a d here for that sound effect

03:06:734 - I love this section :D
One thing though, perhaps you could delete 03:16:770 (1118)? It could be a neat structure to have kdddk at 03:14:719 but kdd k at 03:16:446, like the opposite of how you have ddk k at 03:13:856 but ddkdk at 03:15:583. Might make for a smoother buildup as well.

04:01:986 to 04:15:799 - umm I don't really understand how you're structuring this whole part right here
It seems like you're maintaining a constant beat on red ticks to match the melody, but the k/d structure for those red ticks isn't consistent with the melody's pitch; for example, 04:03:496 (55) is k but 04:05:655 (64) is d but 04:07:813 (69) is k again. There's this really interesting 5-5-6 pattern in the melody that I just can't see within your current patternings. Then there are those I would say "filler" notes like 04:03:281 (53,54) tagged on the end of each bar, but they really seem to be just filler and don't match anything in the music, like the drums? There are so many percussion sounds in the music left unmapped (e.g. 04:04:144 and 04:11:050 etc) and that leaves me unsure of how you're mapping this section. If not matching the music and using improvised drumming is your intention, I'd say that it would be a shame to miss out so much map-able material in the music.
but anyways,
04:01:986 (49) - no finish? :P

04:33:065 to 04:46:878 - nothing to say for this section, song's very repetitive so I like how you make the patterns very diverse :D

05:05:223 (398) - I really think this needs to be a k since the synth is at its highest pitch... perhaps redo this part like this?

05:12:130 - same as above

05:27:669 - it feels REALLY weird to not have a note here for the really loud sound in the music :\

That's it! I like your parts better than ayyri's lol

@Ayyri: right now I'm a bit tired but maybe later I could take a look at your parts in detail, if you would like me to. I believe there's some inconsistency issues that make a lot of your patternings feel too random for ppl; maybe a chat ingame would work better than a forum post tho

anyways, gl with map~
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