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Camellia as "Bang Riot" - Blastix Riotz [Taiko]

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Nwolf
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Samstag, 30. April 2016 at 12:09:27

Artist: Camellia as "Bang Riot"
Title: Blastix Riotz
Source: SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS
Tags: SDVX SDVXIII SDVX3 Distroyer Of South RIOT DESTRUDO GRAVITATIONAL RADAR EPISODE 06 KONAMI Speedcore
BPM: 256
Filesize: 2667kb
Play Time: 02:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2,35 stars, 266 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (5,81 stars, 933 notes)
  3. Kantan (1,42 stars, 164 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3,07 stars, 422 notes)
  5. Oni (4,17 stars, 656 notes)
  6. WereOni (7,14 stars, 1174 notes)
Download: Camellia as "Bang Riot" - Blastix Riotz
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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PURE HATE. Also thanks to tasuke912 and _Gezo_ for qualify/bub, and thanks to all modders <3

Fresh Chicken's 4K Mania set which totally is not the source of mp3 and bg. Never.

Download with Mrriichi's Inner Oni (8.74*)

Streams.
Quizmaegi
Hi, mod from my queue

[WereOni]

00:14:911 ~ 00:15:497 - dddddd(1/2)

00:24:169 - d

00:27:216 ~ 00:27:216 - d ddk k

00:27:216 - d

00:30:380 ~ 00:31:376 - kkddkkdkkdkkdkkdkd

00:47:490 - d

00:51:240 - d

01:07:646 - k

01:07:880 - k

01:19:013 - k

01:19:130 - d

01:22:880 - k

01:22:997 - k

01:43:857 ~ 01:44:208 - dkkkkkd

01:51:825 - k

(and kudosu)
Nofool
ok fuck that song my ears are done ;_;
prolly not the best idea to ask me to mod this since our way of mapping is pretty different..
whatever spread doesn't look bad

[Kantan]
- 00:06:240 - 00:07:880 - could be a spinner, that D plays weird because it doesn't sound like the previous, also idk a spinner fits perfectly and prepare for the next part. same at the end of the map.
- remove - 00:08:583 (7) - and change - 00:10:927 (11) - to k ? => k k ddk d d kkd (just for that, seems hard to get something that fit the song here).
- 00:24:052 (12,13,14,15,16,17) - D k d - k d k instead of D d d d - k k ? to get it like for the first part, the way you made it doesn't make much sense even tho i see you tried to make it different because of what happens at - 00:25:575 -.
- 00:29:677 - 00:31:083 - could be a slider.
- 00:44:677 - 00:46:318 - could be a spinner.
- get ds at - 01:09:521 - and - 01:09:990 - instead of - 01:10:107 (6,7,8) - pls ;_; following that melody only there makes it weird while the spot i pointed are what you follow with all the others notes here.
- 01:15:615 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - all D or all d x_x. all D makes more sences with the beginning.
- 01:43:740 (20) - well this sounds like a D too (like the previous one).
- 01:48:427 (1) - ^ D more appropriate than K imo, (K k plays bad to me, you may hear it more as K but at this point K or D fits the song the same way).
- 01:55:458 (15) - i would remove that one, too many notes in a row.

[Futsuu]
- 00:11:161 (19,20) - remove and possibly add d at - 00:10:693 - ? a break there sound better to me (also that kkk plays bad there to me x_x).
- 00:29:677 - 00:31:083 - refer to kantan.
- move - 00:46:083 (39) - to - 00:45:966 - and add k at - 00:46:318 - ? fits much more the song but is way harder to play sooo up to you.
- 00:53:115 (13,14,15) - well if you keep this then ^ has to be applied hu.
- 01:08:115 - slow part starting from here still is weird af to me, what i would suggest :
move - 01:09:404 (7) - to - 01:09:521 - as d, move - 01:10:107 (8) - to - 01:09:990 -, move - 01:10:341 (9) - to - 01:10:458 -, remove - 01:10:575 (10,11) -, move - 01:12:021 (12) - to - 01:11:865 -, add k at - 01:12:33 - and move - 01:13:896 (14) - to - 01:13:740 -. after that it plays much more cleaner to me.
- 01:15:615 - as Kantan why not all D ?

[Muzukashii]
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- 00:12:099 (34) - forced variety x_x better as d.
- move - 00:18:544 (9) - to - 00:18:661 - as d and also change next k to d, also change - 00:19:482 (13) - to k ? reverse the previous structure, x xx x x x x vs xx x x x x x i think the first one still plays better, as you pref.
- add d at - 00:22:177 -, k at - 00:22:529 -, change - 00:22:763 (25) - to k, move - 00:22:880 (26) - to - 00:22:997 - and remove - 00:23:115 (27,28,29) - ? it doesn't fit the song incredibly well but plays much better than your current dd kkk to me, also creates a better break here.
- move - 00:26:044 (40) - to - 00:26:279 -, remove - 00:26:396 (42,44) - and move - 00:26:865 (45) - to - 00:26:747 - ? ^.
- 00:41:630 (41) - i would keep it as d and remove - 00:42:099 (44) -, the rhythm is so weird that keeping the same structure makes it better to apprehend imo.
- i would still try to find another way to map that slow part, up to you.
- i would rather have notes at - 01:37:997 - and - 01:38:232 - instead of - 01:38:115 (29) -, makes it easier to apprehend because of the previous structures again.
- 01:41:865 - sure about not following that 3/4 sound ? (i mean not just adding something here, also moving thes next notes).
- try changing - 01:54:638 (32) - to d, adding k at - 01:54:755 - and moving - 01:54:872 (33) - to - 01:54:990 - as d ?

[Oni]
- 00:13:857 (62) - k, - 00:14:325 (66) - d ? so you got dkddk and kdkkd in the pattern, makes a link with the same ones just before.
- 00:22:411 (43) - move this one to - 00:22:529 - and add k at - 00:22:646 - ? - 00:22:411 - sounds better without notes because of the previous k sound imo, also you then have dk dk dk which doesn't play bad there (hmm it would kill the break so idk).
- mm try to remove - 00:24:521 (55) -, and move - 00:24:990 (58) - to - 00:24:755 - ? plays much better to me, if you do, also move - 00:26:396 (69) - to - 00:26:513 - because same rythm (ans delete - 00:26:865 (73) - maybe ? i know what you follow but still, weird).
- 01:18:779 - hmm why no k here like at - 01:22:529 (65) - ?
- 01:29:560 (92,93,94) - i would rather use k D instead of ddd here, plays weird since the speed up starts way earlier than that so better keep the whole part consistent.
- 01:51:357 (24,25,26,27,28,29) - k ddk d instead of ddk kkd ? easier to handle and sounds better to me.
- 01:54:755 (53) - change to k and move - 01:54:872 (54) - to - 01:54:990 - ? fits more the previous ddd k this way (i mean regarding what if follows in the music).

[Inner Oni]
- 00:10:927 (65,66,67,68,69,70,71) - try k ddd d k instead ? seems to play better.
- 00:18:544 (21,22,23,24,25) - make it kkk k, 00:19:013 (27,28) - swap colors and also change - 00:19:365 (30) - to k ? then you got kkk k d k d kk like at the beginnign of this part. also the next part keep them kkkkd that are more appropriate there.
- 00:26:865 (103,104,105,106) - dafuk lol, should the first d be at - 00:26:904 - then ? well nvm idk how to handle that.
- 00:44:365 (127,128) - maybe del those two, what i hear while playing is the voice, i don't pay much attention to the background nonstop drum so yeah, can feels weird.
- 00:54:755 (82,83) - well they sound weird but ive no solution 'cause that stupid second d sound is in the midle of it at - 00:54:931 - and that fckin makes no senses.
- 01:29:618 - well seing that break is another reason to no get a note there in the oni.
- 01:34:482 (33,34,35,36,37,38) - hmm i'd have done something like kkd d k or kdd d k here.
- 01:51:240 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - try d kkd k instead ? fits better the melody, i don't think trying to adapt the spam in the background is the right thing here.
- 01:54:521 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92) - kkddk d instead ? as suggested in the oni, getting a k at - 01:54:755 - sounds much better because of the one at - 01:54:404 (85) - that fits the same thing.

[WereOni]
widescreen supp
well random suggestion, my opinion is kinda useless here i can't play test it x_x.
- 00:11:161 (81,82,83,84,85) - kdkkd ?
- move - 00:21:650 (67) - to - 00:21:884 -, - 00:22:001 (71,72) - swap colors and add k at - 00:22:118 - ? idk sounds a bit like it.
- 00:24:052 (96,97) - maybe a D would fit more ? idk
- 00:39:521 (100,101,102) - sounds better as dkk again imo.
- 01:36:298 - somewhat sounds like a d here.
- 01:38:407 (96) - could be k since the next d sounds like similar spots (- 01:37:822 (86) -, - 01:37:997 (89) - and - 01:38:349 (95) -) where you always got a k before.
- 01:51:943 - d ? that break prolly doesn't change much lol.
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good luck'
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Quizmaegi wrote:

Hi, mod from my queue

[WereOni]

00:14:911 ~ 00:15:497 - dddddd(1/2) emphasis on big kats, so no

00:24:169 - d no note here

00:27:216 ~ 00:27:216 - d ddk k removed notes here instead, I hate the snapping here x.x

00:30:380 ~ 00:31:376 - kkddkkdkkdkkdkkdkd it's already like this

00:47:490 - d no

01:07:646 - k no, why

01:19:013 - k added

01:19:130 - d no

01:22:880 - k don instead

01:22:997 - k no

01:43:857 ~ 01:44:208 - dkkkkkd removed 01:44:091 - instead

01:51:825 - k would be snapped wrong, so no
gonna reply to Nofool soon
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Nofool wrote:

ok fuck that song my ears are done ;_;
prolly not the best idea to ask me to mod this since our way of mapping is pretty different..
whatever spread doesn't look bad

[Kantan]
- 00:06:240 - 00:07:880 - could be a spinner, that D plays weird because it doesn't sound like the previous, also idk a spinner fits perfectly and prepare for the next part. same at the end of the map. drum bass is still prominent here, which I want to emphasize more
- remove - 00:08:583 (7) - and change - 00:10:927 (11) - to k ? => k k ddk d d kkd (just for that, seems hard to get something that fit the song here). 00:12:802 (14) - changed to kat instead and 00:12:333 - added don
- 00:24:052 (12,13,14,15,16,17) - D k d - k d k instead of D d d d - k k ? to get it like for the first part, the way you made it doesn't make much sense even tho i see you tried to make it different because of what happens at - 00:25:575 -. Exactly that's what troubles me. I will consider redoing something here, but I also like that it's not constant 2/1 triplets.
- 00:29:677 - 00:31:083 - could be a slider. spinner, sliders suck at 256 BPM
- 00:44:677 - 00:46:318 - could be a spinner. why, there's tons of mappable notes
- get ds at - 01:09:521 - and - 01:09:990 - instead of - 01:10:107 (6,7,8) - pls ;_; following that melody only there makes it weird while the spot i pointed are what you follow with all the others notes here. changed
- 01:15:615 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - all D or all d x_x. all D makes more sences with the beginning. Gonna change it in other diffs, but not Kantan because here I already have a rise in density with the 3/2 which I also don't wanna remove ;w;
- 01:43:740 (20) - well this sounds like a D too (like the previous one). changed
- 01:48:427 (1) - ^ D more appropriate than K imo, (K k plays bad to me, you may hear it more as K but at this point K or D fits the song the same way).
- 01:55:458 (15) - i would remove that one, too many notes in a row. yes to both

[Futsuu]
- 00:11:161 (19,20) - remove and possibly add d at - 00:10:693 - ? a break there sound better to me (also that kkk plays bad there to me x_x). yes changed
- 00:29:677 - 00:31:083 - refer to kantan. same
- move - 00:46:083 (39) - to - 00:45:966 - and add k at - 00:46:318 - ? fits much more the song but is way harder to play sooo up to you. ye
- 01:08:115 - slow part starting from here still is weird af to me, what i would suggest : applied most
move - 01:09:404 (7) - to - 01:09:521 - as d, move - 01:10:107 (8) - to - 01:09:990 -, move - 01:10:341 (9) - to - 01:10:458 -, remove - 01:10:575 (10,11) -, move - 01:12:021 (12) - to - 01:11:865 -, add k at - 01:12:33 - and move - 01:13:896 (14) - to - 01:13:740 -. after that it plays much more cleaner to me.
- 01:15:615 - as Kantan why not all D ? changed

[Muzukashii]
widescreen supp
- 00:12:099 (34) - forced variety x_x better as d. changed
- move - 00:18:544 (9) - to - 00:18:661 - as d and also change next k to d, also change - 00:19:482 (13) - to k ? reverse the previous structure, x xx x x x x vs xx x x x x x i think the first one still plays better, as you pref. changed the beginning but kept the end doublet
- add d at - 00:22:177 -, k at - 00:22:529 -, change - 00:22:763 (25) - to k, move - 00:22:880 (26) - to - 00:22:997 - and remove - 00:23:115 (27,28,29) - ? it doesn't fit the song incredibly well but plays much better than your current dd kkk to me, also creates a better break here. changed it differently
- move - 00:26:044 (40) - to - 00:26:279 -, remove - 00:26:396 (42,44) - and move - 00:26:865 (45) - to - 00:26:747 - ? ^. ye
- 00:41:630 (41) - i would keep it as d and remove - 00:42:099 (44) -, the rhythm is so weird that keeping the same structure makes it better to apprehend imo. kept triplet but changed it to kat
- i would still try to find another way to map that slow part, up to you. did stuff
- i would rather have notes at - 01:37:997 - and - 01:38:232 - instead of - 01:38:115 (29) -, makes it easier to apprehend because of the previous structures again. sounds are too dominant imo
- 01:41:865 - sure about not following that 3/4 sound ? (i mean not just adding something here, also moving thes next notes). changed
- try changing - 01:54:638 (32) - to d, adding k at - 01:54:755 - and moving - 01:54:872 (33) - to - 01:54:990 - as d ? ye

[Oni]
- 00:13:857 (62) - k, - 00:14:325 (66) - d ? so you got dkddk and kdkkd in the pattern, makes a link with the same ones just before. reworked stuff before this instead, I like it more how it emphasizes the... rise in the song
- 00:22:411 (43) - move this one to - 00:22:529 - and add k at - 00:22:646 - ? - 00:22:411 - sounds better without notes because of the previous k sound imo, also you then have dk dk dk which doesn't play bad there (hmm it would kill the break so idk). moved, but added no note
- mm try to remove - 00:24:521 (55) -, and move - 00:24:990 (58) - to - 00:24:755 - ? plays much better to me, if you do, also move - 00:26:396 (69) - to - 00:26:513 - because same rythm (ans delete - 00:26:865 (73) - maybe ? i know what you follow but still, weird). changed first, did something else at 2nd
- 01:18:779 - hmm why no k here like at - 01:22:529 (65) - ? added
- 01:29:560 (92,93,94) - i would rather use k D instead of ddd here, plays weird since the speed up starts way earlier than that so better keep the whole part consistent. changed
- 01:51:357 (24,25,26,27,28,29) - k ddk d instead of ddk kkd ? easier to handle and sounds better to me. d kkd :3 removed last note
- 01:54:755 (53) - change to k and move - 01:54:872 (54) - to - 01:54:990 - ? fits more the previous ddd k this way (i mean regarding what if follows in the music). Don't want dkd here :C

[Inner Oni]
- 00:10:927 (65,66,67,68,69,70,71) - try k ddd d k instead ? seems to play better. k ddd k d
- 00:18:544 (21,22,23,24,25) - make it kkk k, 00:19:013 (27,28) - swap colors and also change - 00:19:365 (30) - to k ? then you got kkk k d k d kk like at the beginnign of this part. also the next part keep them kkkkd that are more appropriate there. ye
- 00:26:865 (103,104,105,106) - dafuk lol, should the first d be at - 00:26:904 - then ? well nvm idk how to handle that. sounds right as it is to me (also yes song is baka but break feels weird)
- 00:44:365 (127,128) - maybe del those two, what i hear while playing is the voice, i don't pay much attention to the background nonstop drum so yeah, can feels weird. deleted last three
- 00:54:755 (82,83) - well they sound weird but ive no solution 'cause that stupid second d sound is in the midle of it at - 00:54:931 - and that fckin makes no senses. moved (idk why it wasn't like this)
- 01:29:618 - well seing that break is another reason to no get a note there in the oni. hur
- 01:34:482 (33,34,35,36,37,38) - hmm i'd have done something like kkd d k or kdd d k here. yep I did
- 01:51:240 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - try d kkd k instead ? fits better the melody, i don't think trying to adapt the spam in the background is the right thing here. also simplified it at the end
- 01:54:521 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92) - kkddk d instead ? as suggested in the oni, getting a k at - 01:54:755 - sounds much better because of the one at - 01:54:404 (85) - that fits the same thing. ye

[WereOni]
widescreen supp
well random suggestion, my opinion is kinda useless here i can't play test it x_x.
- 00:11:161 (81,82,83,84,85) - kdkkd ? think it fits nicer atm. The pattern gets repeated a lot during the middle portion of the map so it might even be good to have it at the beginning as well.
- move - 00:21:650 (67) - to - 00:21:884 -, - 00:22:001 (71,72) - swap colors and add k at - 00:22:118 - ? idk sounds a bit like it. didn't swap but did the three triplets thing
- 00:24:052 (96,97) - maybe a D would fit more ? idk yeah think it covers the 1/4 shift bass good
- 00:39:521 (100,101,102) - sounds better as dkk again imo. plays nicer though, adapted it to other patterns
- 01:36:298 - somewhat sounds like a d here. ye consistency
- 01:38:407 (96) - could be k since the next d sounds like similar spots (- 01:37:822 (86) -, - 01:37:997 (89) - and - 01:38:349 (95) -) where you always got a k before. kkkkdddd belongs together to me ;w;
- 01:51:943 - d ? that break prolly doesn't change much lol. hm yeah sure it gives me 1161 notes, 1161 looks better than 1160
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good luck'
thanks a lot, you are great <3
tasuke912
Hi.
[ General]
  1. BG seems a little rough.
[ Kantan]
  1. 02:03:427 (6,7,8,9) - This pattern seems bit too easy for the climax, should have some 1/1s imo. if you don't prefer 1/1 patterns, try to use the spinner. It also fits to the climax nicely.
[ Futsuu]
  1. SV1.1 looks better. 256*(1.1/1.4) ≒ 201.14 bpm)
  2. 00:21:708 (18) - k? It fits to the sound well, and kddd>kkdd>kddk makes interesting flow imo.
  3. 01:34:599 (11) - k would more fit to the melody imo
  4. 01:50:068 (7) - delete and 01:49:833 (6) - change to d, for patterning with 01:52:177 (14,15,16,17,18,19) -.
  5. 01:55:224 (24,25) - ctrl+g? It makes interesting patterns flow if you applied the previous suggestion. (kdkd > dkkd > dkdk > kddk)
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:21:943 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - Don't be rhythm breaker please
  2. 00:27:802 (44,45) - This pattern seems bit too hard for Muzu, probably remove finisher in the same way as 00:28:740 (47,48) - ?
  3. 01:33:193 - Could have a note for stabilizing the rhythm. 3/2 is not needed here
  4. 01:36:943 -, 01:40:693 -, 01:50:068 -, 01:53:818 - ^
[ Oni]
  1. SV should be 1.4, since this difficulty is Oni. Patterns looks too high density, it's harder to read.
  2. 01:51:708 - missing a note? melody still sounds, empty pattern is weird to me.
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:29:560 (116) - delete? This upbeat is bit too suddenly, I missed from here actually.
[ WereOni]
  1. OD should be 7.0 or higher, since this diff is ultra, harder than Inner Oni (Extra), right? 6.5 is easy for experts.
  2. 02:03:427 - Stream can be harder, this color seems easy for the climax.
You may call me back when you are done.
good luck (¦3[▓▓]
Topic Starter
Nwolf

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi.
[ General]
  1. BG seems a little rough.
[ Kantan]
  1. 02:03:427 (6,7,8,9) - This pattern seems bit too easy for the climax, should have some 1/1s imo. if you don't prefer 1/1 patterns, try to use the spinner. It also fits to the climax nicely. I noticed I do have 1/1 rarely in the map so I change the d d into ddd

[ Futsuu]
  1. SV1.1 looks better. 256*(1.1/1.4) ≒ 201.14 bpm) hm guess this does help with the SV going up slowly from diff to diff
  2. 00:21:708 (18) - k? It fits to the sound well, and kddd>kkdd>kddk makes interesting flow imo. changed to kkkd instead
  3. 01:34:599 (11) - k would more fit to the melody imo restructered this whole part to mirror the first kiai
  4. 01:50:068 (7) - delete and 01:49:833 (6) - change to d, for patterning with 01:52:177 (14,15,16,17,18,19) -. changed
  5. 01:55:224 (24,25) - ctrl+g? It makes interesting patterns flow if you applied the previous suggestion. (kdkd > dkkd > dkdk > kddk) yep, changed. very nice
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:21:943 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - Don't be rhythm breaker please Tried my best to change this to a more convenient cause yes before it was bad
  2. 00:27:802 (44,45) - This pattern seems bit too hard for Muzu, probably remove finisher in the same way as 00:28:740 (47,48) - ? yup
  3. 01:33:193 - Could have a note for stabilizing the rhythm. 3/2 is not needed here
  4. 01:36:943 -, 01:40:693 -, 01:50:068 -, 01:53:818 - ^ did all, simplified 01:55:341 - tho
[ Oni]
  1. SV should be 1.4, since this difficulty is Oni. Patterns looks too high density, it's harder to read. Ono-style 1.3 SV. Fits with the SV curve created by Futsuu having 1.1!
  2. 01:51:708 - missing a note? melody still sounds, empty pattern is weird to me. added don, changed triplet to kkk
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:29:560 (116) - delete? This upbeat is bit too suddenly, I missed from here actually. removed
[ WereOni]
  1. OD should be 7.0 or higher, since this diff is ultra, harder than Inner Oni (Extra), right? 6.5 is easy for experts. I cannot find arguments against so changed LOL (idk if notelocking still exists or is prevented, I also couldn't care, there's a lack of being able to play HR on this so w/e)
  2. 02:03:427 - Stream can be harder, this color seems easy for the climax. changed a little bit, this was indeed (on purpose?) slightly uninspired
You may call me back when you are done.
good luck (¦3[▓▓]
thank you~
tasuke912
No kds, rechecking

Futsuu
01:10:575 (5) - move to 1/2 tick left for the consistency with 01:08:583 (2) - ? then delete (6) for stabilizing the rhythm. (this song is too hard for making lower diffs x_x)

WereOni
02:03:427 - looks better, but i think could be used reverse pattern in the similar way as other diffs. e.g.)
Topic Starter
Nwolf
Futsuu: I hate this slow part so much I hope it rots in hell, changed

WereOni: omg this makes sense
tasuke912
Mapset looks fine. every diff are well mapped especially highest diff.

Bubbled!
Topic Starter
Nwolf
aaaaaaah thanks *.*
SKSalt
Hi, random suggestion no kds please

[WereOni]
  1. 01:43:974 - and 01:44:091 - add notes? Because vocal sounds here. Put similar like 01:43:505 (155,156) - , it sounds better.
  2. 00:21:943 (70,71,72) - change to kkkd? (1/6) Because of 01:40:693 (123,124,125,126) - .
Good luck Nwolf ;)
Backfire
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16:25 Backfire: also if you get this ranked
16:25 *Backfire is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/774996 Camellia as "Bang Riot" - Blastix Riotz [WereOni]] <Taiko>
16:25 Backfire: I will give you a 0
16:26 Nwolf: y
16:26 Nwolf: song too crap?
16:29 Backfire: if you mapped this normally it'd be 1/8ths all over the place
16:29 Backfire: idk why you chose to map it like this tho
16:29 Backfire: well not normally, "to the music"
16:29 Greninja: Hello
16:29 Backfire: I just think its a stupid song
16:29 Nwolf: There would not be 1/8ths everywhere
16:30 Greninja: How is your guy's day going?
16:30 Dainesl: erm what?
16:30 Nwolf: also if we were to argument like that there would be 1/8ths in a lot of songs
16:31 Backfire: 00:11:865 - can be split up into 3 streams
16:31 Nwolf: Yotogibanashi has a 240 BPM stream, so what
16:31 JDrago14: ._. Seems kinda odd.
16:31 Backfire: 00:12:626 - 00:12:743 - delete, 00:13:564 - 00:13:681 - delete
16:32 Backfire: and then you have a stream that finally makes sense
16:32 Nwolf: How does it not make sense now
16:32 Backfire: There is breaks in the music
16:32 Nwolf: sec
16:32 Ninjaryry: Which map are you guys talking about?
16:32 Vulkin: np it
16:32 Nwolf: oh you are telling me about breaks in the music?
16:32 Backfire: No
16:33 Backfire: I'm telling you how to make a map that doesn't suck.
16:33 Raiden: kek
16:33 JDrago14: .....Well Damm.
16:33 *Ninjaryry is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/364661 Infected Mushroom - Never Mind]
16:33 Ninjaryry: but that is one of my favorite maps^
16:33 Backfire: 01:37:646 -
16:33 Nwolf: sec
16:33 Backfire: 01:37:704 - delete01:37:880 - delete01:38:056 - delete
16:35 Nwolf: about the first stream you find stupid: Understanding the concept of building up the map?
16:35 Nwolf: Closing gaps as you go?
16:35 Backfire: That does not apply to your map
16:35 Backfire: this is "pp" mapping at its core
16:36 Backfire: it reminds me of galaxy collapse and it's endless streams
16:36 Nwolf: how is this pp mapping
16:36 Nwolf: the first stream has full drums
16:37 Nwolf: ones I could even have mapped as 176
16:37 Nwolf: *1/6
16:37 Backfire: 01:49:306 - 01:49:423 - delete, 01:53:056 - 01:53:173 - delete, 01:55:048 - 01:55:224 - 01:55:400 - delete
16:38 Backfire: And my reasoning is follow the music instead of making a long stream for no reason.
16:38 Backfire: you lose like .1 SR and the map doesnt play like a pile of garbage
16:39 BBB: hello, backfire
16:39 BBB: hello, nwolf
16:39 *Vulkin is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/687999 SANY-ON - BREAK RAIKORE [Taikocalypse]] <Taiko>
16:39 Vulkin: why this is not ranked
16:40 Vulkin: hi BBB
16:40 BBB: hello, vulkin
16:40 Ninjaryry: Hai BBB :3
16:40 Backfire: I'm getting tired of seeing hard maps and people who don't know how/what to mod and then them getting ranked anyways because no one modded them in the first place because they didn't understand them. It's like galaxy collapse, it's like doppelganger, it's like so many maps. All I want is for us to have actual difficulty instead of artificial difficulty
16:45 Backfire: I am mostly upset with how all maps are reaching 7* and stuff these days
16:45 Raiden: this is 5,14* :(
16:45 Backfire: I think it's fine to have inflated SR
16:45 Nwolf: I am only upset with maps that do it unjustified
16:45 Backfire: and it's fine to have hard maps
16:46 Nwolf: eg. Artcore JINJA, Tits or get the firetruck out
16:46 Nwolf: or x.U.
16:46 Backfire: but we shouldn't give pass just because something is hard, we should try to find solutions to make it just as difficult but in ways that arent so...eh?
16:46 Backfire: I guess.
16:46 Backfire: I think blastix just needs to cut down on the extremely long streams
16:46 Backfire: I think those tend to suck (even in my own maps)
16:46 Nwolf: The extremely long streams are justified
16:46 Nwolf: sofar I only cut down the one at 1:37
16:47 Nwolf: Yotogibanashi had a long stream too
16:47 Nwolf: nothing bad about that
16:47 Backfire: well at least I got one then
16:47 Nwolf: and why are 250 BPM streams suddenly bad when 200 BPM streams aren't
16:47 Backfire: wait if you do that one
16:47 Backfire: then do the one at the end
16:47 Backfire: 01:54:990 -
16:47 Backfire: It would honestly be better and just sound and play better, that's my opinion
16:47 Ninjaryry: i find streams in almost any song over 240bpm terrible and stupid
16:47 Backfire: me too :x
16:47 Backfire: but like listen to it
16:48 Backfire: and then see what it plays like and looks like, and then decide
16:48 Ninjaryry: i think Taiko needs an update to increase the difficulty somehow
16:48 Nwolf: are DT streams bad then Ninjaryry? :V
16:48 Backfire: DT streams suck tbh
16:48 Ninjaryry: nah
16:49 Nwolf: Backfire: I'm not cutting down that stream
16:49 Ninjaryry: DT streams i can handle, but just normal high bpm gets to me
16:49 Nwolf: It's got a big break already
16:49 Ninjaryry: its begging for pp
16:49 Backfire: can I post this in your thread as an irc mod or something if you take some of my suggestions
16:49 Backfire: nah come on man
16:49 Nwolf: I took the one at 1:37
16:49 Backfire: its like at the very end
16:49 BBB: the whole game mode??
16:49 Backfire: it sounds better with the dk dk kkkkkkd
16:49 Backfire: :(
16:49 BBB: it's already hard enough for beginners to get into taiko D:
Topic Starter
Nwolf

SKSalt wrote:

Hi, random suggestion no kds please

[WereOni]
  1. 01:43:974 - and 01:44:091 - add notes? Because vocal sounds here. Put similar like 01:43:505 (155,156) - , it sounds better. done
  2. 00:21:943 (70,71,72) - change to kkkd? (1/6) Because of 01:40:693 (123,124,125,126) - . removed 1/6 instead
Good luck Nwolf ;)
thanks!

Also applied a few changes by Backfire
tasuke912
Re-Bubbled!
Yuzeyun
weff / call tanuki912 after answering except if you denied everything

[WeffOni]
00:08:115 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - kkddkdkk goes along with a synth,
00:08:700 (42,43,44,45,46) - kdkkk focuses better on kickspam.
00:09:638 (57,58,59,60,61) - ^
00:10:575 (72,73,74,75,76) - ^ pls
00:11:513 (86,87) - Actually I'm not too sure about the rhythm, I tried to have all kicks but I end up using 1/12. Keep it as it is, but I have [url)http://i.chiyozel.com/SmPy9WaL]that only for the first kicks.[/url]
00:28:447 (135) - This note can be deleted, there's no real sound as opposed at the next ones :P
00:52:587 - You missed a note here, it's five kicks

weff
weffwef
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Topic Starter
Nwolf

_Gezo_ wrote:

weff / call tanuki912 after answering except if you denied everything

[WeffOni]
00:08:115 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - kkddkdkk goes along with a synth, what synth .w.
00:08:700 (42,43,44,45,46) - kdkkk focuses better on kickspam. ye
00:11:513 (86,87) - Actually I'm not too sure about the rhythm, I tried to have all kicks but I end up using 1/12. Keep it as it is, but I have [url)http://i.chiyozel.com/SmPy9WaL]that only for the first kicks.[/url] changed. I must've been drunk
00:28:447 (135) - This note can be deleted, there's no real sound as opposed at the next ones :P I think this flows nicer :c
00:52:587 - You missed a note here, it's five kicks added other missing kicks in this part too.

weff
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weff weff, thanks _gezweff_
_yu68
hi~
mod from PM.

My English is not good.
There is a possibility that the intention is not transmitted.

I'm beginner modder.
Please understand that.


[WereOni]
1. 00:11:572 - add d
2. 00:11:747 - ^
3. 00:26:865 ~ 00:27:450 - add any notes
4. 00:28:271 (132,133,134,135,136) - Invert dk
5. 00:28:740 (137,138,139,140) - change to d
⇒4&5...mapping in the same color as 00:27:802 (130,131) -
6. 01:39:052 - 01:39:111 - 01:39:169 - add notes
7. 01:44:443 - 01:44:501 - 01:44:560 - add notes
8. 02:05:536 (63,64,65,66,67) - delete
⇒8...The easy part after the end of the last stream I think is unnecessary.

good luck. :3
Topic Starter
Nwolf

_yu68 wrote:

hi~ hi, thanks for arriving <3
mod from PM.

My English is not good.
There is a possibility that the intention is not transmitted.

I'm beginner modder.
Please understand that.


[WereOni]
1. 00:11:572 - add d
2. 00:11:747 - ^ oops, added both^^
3. 00:26:865 ~ 00:27:450 - add any notes they are snapped pretty weirdly by Camellia so I didn't map these
4. 00:28:271 (132,133,134,135,136) - Invert dk
5. 00:28:740 (137,138,139,140) - change to d for both: I feel like don is too low
⇒4&5...mapping in the same color as 00:27:802 (130,131) - Changed these to big kats instead
6. 01:39:052 - 01:39:111 - 01:39:169 - add notes only added :052
7. 01:44:443 - 01:44:501 - 01:44:560 - add notes added other notes
8. 02:05:536 (63,64,65,66,67) - delete
⇒8...The easy part after the end of the last stream I think is unnecessary. not mapping it feels weird imo

good luck. :3
thanks!
ManP
short mod about wereoni

  1. 00:26:865 (127,128) - while thees notes,I fell this pause is awkward. I suggest to try remake up this point.
  2. 00:27:509 - add k. 00:27:685 - add d. You should get this section harder. By doing so,you can accentuate next big notes i guess.
  3. 01:07:646 - Remove this green please. it should be being slowest SV
  4. 01:11:865 - Instead of removing a green line,I suggest to put many green lines from here.
  5. 01:23:115 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) - 01:26:865 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - Why not finish? I think everyone permit if there are so many big notes.(at least,I forgive)
GL with your map ;3/

Edited:don't forget disabling widescreen support
Topic Starter
Nwolf

ManP wrote:

short mod about wereoni woof

  1. 00:26:865 (127,128) - while thees notes,I fell this pause is awkward. I suggest to try remake up this point. 00:27:216 - added a note here. MEH
  2. 00:27:509 - add k. 00:27:685 - add d. You should get this section harder. By doing so,you can accentuate next big notes i guess. I think this hurts the song
  3. 01:07:646 - Remove this green please. it should be being slowest SV song is increasing in pace so this is needed imo
  4. 01:11:865 - Instead of removing a green line,I suggest to put many green lines from here. doesn't fit imo
  5. 01:23:115 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) - 01:26:865 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - Why not finish? I think everyone permit if there are so many big notes.(at least,I forgive) >:3
GL with your map ;3/

Edited:don't forget disabling widescreen support
thanks~
Yuzeyun

tasuke912
Qualified!
Surono

tasuke912 wrote:

uwaahhhhh~
SKSalt
congrats woof
Topic Starter
Nwolf
>:3
SKSalt
Ayy :(

[Oni & Inner Oni]
  1. 01:43:974 - missing a note...? WereOni has a note. (probably you followed vocal sound.) And a sudden doublet is little weird for me. I also think that rhythm is improved.
Topic Starter
Nwolf
That's intentional. Mapping it as WereOni would mean even more notes (aka the same as it is in WereOni), the doublet is there because of drums. Don't think it really is bad rhythm-wise.
SKSalt

Nwolf wrote:

That's intentional. Mapping it as WereOni would mean even more notes (aka the same as it is in WereOni), the doublet is there because of drums. Don't think it really is bad rhythm-wise.
Okay, now watch over your mapset. good luck!
Arzenvald
>:3

woosh
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