Tia - Nirvana · forum

gameuse_old

Joined November 2013

gameuse_old 2015-10-12T03:35:59+00:00

Nice song!

SPOILER
Easy
Offset 767
your song's beat map divisor does not need to exceed 1/2
remove all (auto, auto) sounds and replace with (soft, soft) finishes or whistles
00:14:517 to 00:24:100 consider decreasing volume to around 30-40%
00:59:517 to 01:26:183 volume could go up to 80%
00:39:517 remove the (auto, auto) and replace with (soft, auto) finish
00:41:183 to 00:56:392 this phrase is way to loud, soften up the volume

Normal
Offset 767
your song's beat map divisor does not need to exceed 1/2
remove all (auto, auto) sounds and replace with (soft, soft) finishes or whistles
00:14:517 to 00:24:100 consider decreasing volume to around 30-40%
00:59:517 to 01:26:183 volume could go up to 80%
00:14:517 whistle
00:17:008 to 00:19:100 ^same
00:19:100 ^same
00:22:017 ^same
00:41:183 to 00:56:392 this phrase is way to loud, soften up the volume
the kiai time sounds really good

Advanced
Offset 767
remove all (auto, auto) sounds and replace with (soft, soft) finishes or whistles
00:14:517 to 00:24:100 consider decreasing volume to around 30-40%
00:59:517 to 01:26:183 volume could go up to 80%
00:41:183 to 00:56:392 this phrase is way to loud, soften up the volume

UndeadCapulet

1,100 posts

Joined April 2013

UndeadCapulet 2015-10-12T04:07:18+00:00

From my queue:

General

There's a very good chance you will need another difficulty between Advanced and moph's Insane to properly balance the spread. Spacing fluctuates too much in the Insane, and in general Advanced is much slower paced. AR6 to AR9 is not a viable difficulty curve. nvm i missed the comment in the description oops

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moph's Insane

00:07:850 (3) - Should probably NC, no?
00:34:517 (1,2,3) - Personally I wish you used the same style of rhythm as 00:07:850 (1,2) - , it was a really nice fit for the vocals.
00:39:517 (1,2,3) - Should probably stack 2 underneath 1 instead of on top of 3, the 2/3 seems pointlessly tricky to notice. I think it fits the music better in general anyway.
00:41:183 (2) - Personally think you should NC here because of the downbeat and overall difference in musical tone.
00:48:267 (4) - Maybe curve this slider so it plays better out of the 1/3 triangle. Like so?
00:58:544 (4) - I would NC here to keep the pattern of NC's consistent throughout the entire 00:56:183 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - arrangement.
01:01:043 (6) - Try stacking under 01:00:767 (5) - 's tail so the snap to 01:01:183 (1) - is more powerful.
01:05:906 (8,9,1) - This is incredibly awkward. The circular-snappy motion of the triangle patterns is completely broken off by the placement of the next slider. I highly recommend you find a different arrangement that doesn't break the flow so much.
01:17:294 (5) - An NC here would be nice because of how strong these beats are.
01:23:683 (4) - Perhaps NC here for a similar NC pattern as 00:57:017 (1) - .

Your triangle and star patterns might be a tad highly spaced compared to the rest of the map, but I don't think it's too big of a deal. Overall this was really nice :3

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Advanced

00:11:183 (1,2) - Honestly, a slider would probably fit better. It would make the downbeat stronger and makes a better distinction between the 00:10:350
4,5) - circles.
00:18:683 (3) - Ctrl+h this slider, it makes the 00:18:683 (3,4,1) - motion more varied and more enjoyable.
00:39:517 (1,2,3) - This is a very clunky and unfitting rhythm. Try this instead.
00:41:044 (5) - I get that you put this here for the vocal, but I think it'd be better if you deleted it. It lets the guitar hold feel stronger and gives the next slider more power.
00:58:683 (3) - NC so the NC patterning of 00:56:183 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is fully realized. This is also strong enough on its own to warrant an NC imo
01:07:850 (1,2) - By following the vocals here, you've created a clunky rhythm. The rest of the kiai would have you click on the white tick, do that to keep things more consistent.
01:10:211 (3,4,5,6,1) - This part seems rather cramped, try out an arrangement along the line of this.
01:17:294 (3,1) - Swap NC since 3 is clearly the start of this rhythm idea.

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Normal

01:16:044 (1) - Don't skip the downbeat here, circle-into-slider is fine.

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Easy

I was going to suggest change tick rate to 1, but then I saw 00:12:850 (3) - and changed my mind. Awesome!

00:40:767 (5) - I don't think this circle is really necessary, aside from maybe keeping you from rearranging things, lol. Letting 4 hold the full weight of the guitar strings with no interruptions seems better imo.
Try adding a note at 00:50:767 to keep the 00:41:183 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - rhythm from getting too dull.

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This song is really pretty~ and the whole set is great, too! Good luck!

Last edited by UndeadCapulet 2015-10-12T13:51:51+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

moph

1,147 posts

Joined January 2013

moph 2015-10-12T06:24:14+00:00

UndeadCapulet wrote:
From my queue:
General
There's a very good chance you will need another difficulty between Advanced and moph's Insane to properly balance the spread. Spacing fluctuates too much in the Insane, and in general Advanced is much slower paced. AR6 to AR9 is not a viable difficulty curve.
as mentioned in the map description there is a Hard diff on the way

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moph's Insane
00:07:850 (3) - Should probably NC, no? ok
00:34:517 (1,2,3) - Personally I wish you used the same style of rhythm as 00:07:850 (1,2) - , it was a really nice fit for the vocals. yeah actually, why didn't I do that zz
00:39:517 (1,2,3) - Should probably stack 2 underneath 1 instead of on top of 3, the 2/3 seems pointlessly tricky to notice. I think it fits the music better in general anyway. yeah this doesn't read well, did something else
00:41:183 (2) - Personally think you should NC here because of the downbeat and overall difference in musical tone. ok
00:48:267 (4) - Maybe curve this slider so it plays better out of the 1/3 triangle. Like so? sure
00:58:544 (4) - I would NC here to keep the pattern of NC's consistent throughout the entire 00:56:183 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - arrangement. ok
01:01:043 (6) - Try stacking under 01:00:767 (5) - 's tail so the snap to 01:01:183 (1) - is more powerful. keeping as is for now, more emphasis would be great there but I don't think it would play well
01:05:906 (8,9,1) - This is incredibly awkward. The circular-snappy motion of the triangle patterns is completely broken off by the placement of the next slider. I highly recommend you find a different arrangement that doesn't break the flow so much. great point, reversed the second triangle
01:17:294 (5) - An NC here would be nice because of how strong these beats are. sure
01:23:683 (4) - Perhaps NC here for a similar NC pattern as 00:57:017 (1) - . I don't think that is necessary here

Your triangle and star patterns might be a tad highly spaced compared to the rest of the map, but I don't think it's too big of a deal. Overall this was really nice :3

Thanks UndeadCapulet!

update

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guineaQ

1,588 posts

Joined December 2013

guineaQ 2015-10-13T10:11:54+00:00

On moph's insane

its pretty cool map overall but 01:18:128 (3) - is such a troll placement, since the stack leniency is low enough that it completely overlaps with the sliderhead, I would just move it slightly so that it doesn't completely overlap (besides, this is the first and the only time you stack a note below the sliderhead)

moph

1,147 posts

Joined January 2013

moph 2015-10-14T06:59:40+00:00

guineaQ wrote:
On moph's insane

its pretty cool map overall but 01:18:128 (3) - is such a troll placement, since the stack leniency is low enough that it completely overlaps with the sliderhead, I would just move it slightly so that it doesn't completely overlap (besides, this is the first and the only time you stack a note below the sliderhead)

hmm good point, fixed.
changed some other things as well

update

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Rizen

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Topic Starter

Rizen 2015-10-15T07:27:44+00:00

gameuse

gameuse wrote:
Nice song!

Easy
Offset 767 this offset misplaces the downbeat.. the first note of the diff is because the vocals starts before the downbeat
your song's beat map divisor does not need to exceed 1/2 this song is in 1/3 rhythm but this diff is in 1/1, changed to 1/1
remove all (auto, auto) sounds and replace with (soft, soft) finishes or whistles this mapset has both soft and drum hitsounds because I think it suits the song very well
00:14:517 to 00:24:100 consider decreasing volume to around 30-40% made quieter
00:59:517 to 01:26:183 volume could go up to 80% that's too loud... I even think 70% is pushing it.. decreased down to 60%
00:39:517 remove the (auto, auto) and replace with (soft, auto) finish focusing the hitsounding at this part on the drums, which was not in the section before
00:41:183 to 00:56:392 this phrase is way to loud, soften up the volume changed to 30% volume

Normal
Offset 767
your song's beat map divisor does not need to exceed 1/2 this song is in 1/3 rhythm..
remove all (auto, auto) sounds and replace with (soft, soft) finishes or whistles mentioned in easy
00:14:517 to 00:24:100 consider decreasing volume to around 30-40% decreased volume
00:59:517 to 01:26:183 volume could go up to 80% changed to 60% instead..
00:14:517 whistle that would ruin the consistency of the diff and mapset, there's a whistle in this section every 2/1 small white tick
00:17:008 to 00:19:100 ^same ^
00:19:100 ^same ^
00:22:017 ^same ^
00:41:183 to 00:56:392 this phrase is way to loud, soften up the volume changed to 30% volume
the kiai time sounds really good

Advanced
Offset 767
remove all (auto, auto) sounds and replace with (soft, soft) finishes or whistles mentioned in easy
00:14:517 to 00:24:100 consider decreasing volume to around 30-40% done
00:59:517 to 01:26:183 volume could go up to 80% changed to 60% instead
00:41:183 to 00:56:392 this phrase is way to loud, soften up the volume

thank you for the mod!

UndeadCapulet

UndeadCapulet wrote:
From my queue:
General
There's a very good chance you will need another difficulty between Advanced and moph's Insane to properly balance the spread. Spacing fluctuates too much in the Insane, and in general Advanced is much slower paced. AR6 to AR9 is not a viable difficulty curve. nvm i missed the comment in the description oops

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Advanced
00:11:183 (1,2) - Honestly, a slider would probably fit better. It would make the downbeat stronger and makes a better distinction between the 00:10:350
4,5) - circles. applied
00:18:683 (3) - Ctrl+h this slider, it makes the 00:18:683 (3,4,1) - motion more varied and more enjoyable. you're right, done
00:39:517 (1,2,3) - This is a very clunky and unfitting rhythm. Try this instead. plays nicely. thanks--
00:41:044 (5) - I get that you put this here for the vocal, but I think it'd be better if you deleted it. It lets the guitar hold feel stronger and gives the next slider more power. ok
00:58:683 (3) - NC so the NC patterning of 00:56:183 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is fully realized. This is also strong enough on its own to warrant an NC imo roger
01:07:850 (1,2) - By following the vocals here, you've created a clunky rhythm. The rest of the kiai would have you click on the white tick, do that to keep things more consistent. I really think this slider fits this part of the song because the vocals at this point is so much more different than the vocals from the rest of the song... I really don't think this would be much of a problem
01:10:211 (3,4,5,6,1) - This part seems rather cramped, try out an arrangement along the line of this. ok, done
01:17:294 (3,1) - Swap NC since 3 is clearly the start of this rhythm idea. ok

---
Normal
01:16:044 (1) - Don't skip the downbeat here, circle-into-slider is fine. done

---
Easy
I was going to suggest change tick rate to 1, but then I saw 00:12:850 (3) - and changed my mind. Awesome!

00:40:767 (5) - I don't think this circle is really necessary, aside from maybe keeping you from rearranging things, lol. Letting 4 hold the full weight of the guitar strings with no interruptions seems better imo.
Try adding a note at 00:50:767 to keep the 00:41:183 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - rhythm from getting too dull.

---
This song is really pretty~ and the whole set is great, too! Good luck!

thank you for the mod!!!

Yahuri

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Yahuri 2015-10-19T06:55:49+00:00

YATO-SAMAAAAAAAA?!?!?
From my queue~

Normal
00:12:433 - i think you should map the lyrics here with a 1-beat slider
00:13:683 (6,1) - blanket can be improved slightly
00:29:100 (3,4) - ^
01:16:183 (1,2) - I think the flow can be improved here. Curve the slider tail down more, and adjust accordingly.

Advanced
01:24:100 (2,1) - very slight blanket improvement

Random comment - 01:08:405 (2) (advanced) - tiny sliders like this were kinda panic-inducing when I played the maps (maybe because they are relatively infrequent?). I dunno why, but I guess there really isn't a way for you to change that :X
Anyways, pretty solid map from my perspective. Hope this mod helps a little bit, and good luck!

Rizen

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Topic Starter

Rizen 2015-10-20T21:01:29+00:00

Yahuri

Yahuri wrote:
YATO-SAMAAAAAAAA?!?!?
From my queue~

Normal
00:12:433 - i think you should map the lyrics here with a 1-beat slider my bad, its meant to be a 1/1 slider but it must of changed by itself (it does that waay too often -.-)
00:13:683 (6,1) - blanket can be improved slightlydone
00:29:100 (3,4) - ^done
01:16:183 (1,2) - I think the flow can be improved here. Curve the slider tail down more, and adjust accordingly.ok

Advanced
01:24:100 (2,1) - very slight blanket improvementok

Random comment - 01:08:405 (2) (advanced) - tiny sliders like this were kinda panic-inducing when I played the maps (maybe because they are relatively infrequent?). I dunno why, but I guess there really isn't a way for you to change that :Xthis kinda of slider comes up again later on in the difficulty :<
Anyways, pretty solid map from my perspective. Hope this mod helps a little bit, and good luck!

thank you for the mod!

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2015-10-21T08:54:10+00:00

My Hard has a lower star rating than your Advanced, probably because of the larger distance snapping you're using and the higher rhythm density in the kiai in Advanced.
Frankly speaking, I am kinda worried about the difficulty of the Insane, where the song doesn't provide such feedback. Is it possible to carry out a significant nerf to reduce the difficulty gap? Also, we may have to swap the names of our difficulties too.
Any other alternatives?

Here's the difficulty without hitsounding, please have a look and consider my two cents!
I will finish the whole thing after consensus has been reached, hope you don't mind.
http://puu.sh/kS4za/0430d3345b.rar

moph

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Joined January 2013

moph 2015-10-21T09:31:52+00:00

hmm I'd be happy to nerf my diff if you want me to Rizen, as Kwan said it might cause issues orz

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-21T10:18:06+00:00

The Current Problem: Difficulty gap is too large from IamKwaN's Hard (2.47) to moph's Shinki (4.57). That's a gap of 2.1SR

Solution: I will map two new difficulties; Hyper and Insane, to make up for this large difficulty gap, aiming (although this aim will not dictate the final SR) for star ratings of 3.2 and 4.0
The problem with this is that I have final exams in 19 days, ending in 34 days...

@Rizen: map two new difficulties; Hyper and Insane. Long delay due to exams (will probably get the diffs ready before exams start)

@IamKwaN: you are free to choose between having the existing hitsounds copied over to your diff, or to make your own hitsounds. No rush though because there will be a long delay for Rizen's Hyper/Insane difficulties

@moph: you do not have to nerf your difficulty, but you are free to make whatever changes you see fit

This sounds way too formal... (well, more formal than usual)

Last edited by Rizen 2015-10-21T20:30:52+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2015-10-21T10:20:11+00:00

Roger!

_handholding

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_handholding 2015-10-23T01:42:50+00:00

from my modding queue

[easy]
00:40:267 (4) Some off the circle is off screen. Is it rankable? maybe, maybe not. It doesnt hurt to adjust the position anyways.

[Normal]
00:07:767 (1) - Part of it is off screen
00:22:767 (3) - ^ (this isnt a nazi mod I swear)

Yh I cant find anything else in the other 2 diffs that wouldnt make this look like a nazi mod

Just take a star and GL getting ranked!

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-23T09:58:25+00:00

Hi Im Nathan

Hi Im Nathan wrote:
from my modding queue

[easy]
00:40:267 (4) Some off the circle is off screen. Is it rankable? maybe, maybe not. It doesnt hurt to adjust the position anyways. it's on screen in game

[Normal]
00:07:767 (1) - Part of it is off screen in the editor, it's off screen but ingame, it's on screen ;_;
00:22:767 (3) - ^ (this isnt a nazi mod I swear) moved this one though, just in case

Yh I cant find anything else in the other 2 diffs that wouldnt make this look like a nazi mod

Just take a star and GL getting ranked!

thank you for the mod and stars--

Kendo-chan

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Joined April 2015

Kendo-chan 2015-10-24T02:55:21+00:00

Hi, came from modreqs. (I can't use img right now, the pic might make the mod confusing.)

[Monko's Shinki]

00:13:461 - http://puu.sh/kVn4T/195f5985d2.jpg This hurts my hand. ;-; Make the distance snap a bit closer.
00:26:795 - http://puu.sh/kVneo/d9432967c2.jpg Too far.

[Insane]

00:56:100 - http://puu.sh/kVnvH/7fbed726eb.jpg Don't overlap, it seems confusing to my eyes.

I'm sorry if this is not helpful, I'm an intermediate mapper and this is my first mod. ;-;

Last edited by Kendo-chan 2015-10-24T06:12:05+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Rizen

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Topic Starter

Rizen 2015-10-24T03:07:46+00:00

Kendo-chan

Kendo-chan wrote:
Hi, came from modreqs. (I can't use right now, the pic might make the mod confusing.)

[Monko's Shinki]

[Insane]

00:56:100 - http://puu.sh/kVnvH/7fbed726eb.jpg Don't overlap, it seems confusing to my eyes.
ya, moved all the strong beat circles to overlap in the focus point of this pattern

I'm sorry if this is not helpful, I'm an intermediate mapper and this is my first mod. ;-;

thank you for the mod--

Rizen

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Topic Starter

Rizen 2015-10-24T04:15:56+00:00

[ Rizen ] wrote:
Long delay due to exams

procrastination to the highest...

Btw, Insane and Hyper are ready

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2015-10-24T04:24:21+00:00

http://puu.sh/kVrTl/514c55b31d.rar yahoo!

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-24T05:04:34+00:00

updated--

Ringating

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Ringating 2015-10-24T07:01:18+00:00

here's a much cleaner/sharper bg

pishifat

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pishifat 2015-10-24T07:02:38+00:00

^you're welcome

seems weird to silence the spinnerend when it's on a solid sound. there should be feedback for that

combocolors on easy should be the smae as your other diffs rizen

the stuff before the kiai at 00:58:600 - sounds way better with soft sampleset

tick rate 3 is pretty gross when the song ignores most of these ticks, which is where all your sliderticks are appearing. it's like using tr2 on a song with only 1/1 practically. tick rate 1 is more appropriate since sliderticks on silence everywhere is lol.

easy
01:16:100 (1) - you'll probably need to use a more linear sliderbody. something that gives a clear idea of when the slider's gonna end, since right now it relies on how well scrubs can read a squished blob of a slider (which is not at all) ending on a 1/3 tick (which you havent done at all before kkkkk)

normal
00:01:934 (3,5) - could you just not. 5 fully faded in by the time you hit 3 ugh alternate placements so easy ugh
01:15:684 (7,8) - 1.2x tho
01:25:267 (6) - 00:13:600 (6) - nobody's gonna be able to tell that it's got more than 1 reverse. just doing like another 2/3 slider + circle is the easiest possible thing to do without causing confusionz

kwan
00:03:322 (2) - not getting what you're mapping with this circle. the tsu vocal and bell thing are supposed to be on bleh, so like wyat

moph
od should be higher than rizen's insane lol

ty for using an audio file that isn't obnoxiously clipping like the ranked one

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-24T09:15:42+00:00

Ringating

Ringating wrote:
here's a much cleaner/sharper bg
ily

pishifat

pishifat wrote:
^you're welcome

seems weird to silence the spinnerend when it's on a solid sound. there should be feedback for that yeah, I did that out of habit... applied to all of my diffs

combocolors on easy should be the smae as your other diffs rizen whoops, applied

the stuff before the kiai at 00:58:600 - sounds way better with soft sampleset yeah, it does sound way better :s applied

tick rate 3 is pretty gross when the song ignores most of these ticks, which is where all your sliderticks are appearing. it's like using tr2 on a song with only 1/1 practically. tick rate 1 is more appropriate since sliderticks on silence everywhere is lol. I suppose so, applied to my diffs

easy
01:16:100 (1) - you'll probably need to use a more linear sliderbody. something that gives a clear idea of when the slider's gonna end, since right now it relies on how well scrubs can read a squished blob of a slider (which is not at all) ending on a 1/3 tick (which you havent done at all before kkkkk) ok, made it into a sharp s slider

normal
00:01:934 (3,5) - could you just not. 5 fully faded in by the time you hit 3 ugh alternate placements so easy ugh readjusted previous objects to fix this :<
01:15:684 (7,8) - 1.2x tho whoops fixed)
01:25:267 (6) - 00:13:600 (6) - nobody's gonna be able to tell that it's got more than 1 reverse. just doing like another 2/3 slider + circle is the easiest possible thing to do without causing confusionz you've got a point there.. applied

kwan
00:03:322 (2) - not getting what you're mapping with this circle. the tsu vocal and bell thing are supposed to be on bleh, so like wyat

moph
od should be higher than rizen's insane lol

ty for using an audio file that isn't obnoxiously clipping like the ranked one :^)

thank you for mod! (and star icon!)

moph

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Joined January 2013

moph 2015-10-24T09:30:41+00:00

pishifat wrote:
the stuff before the kiai at 00:58:600 - sounds way better with soft sampleset I agree

tick rate 3 is pretty gross when the song ignores most of these ticks, which is where all your sliderticks are appearing. it's like using tr2 on a song with only 1/1 practically. tick rate 1 is more appropriate since sliderticks on silence everywhere is lol. true

moph
od should be higher than rizen's insane lol ok

Thanks pishi!
also I'm stealing Kwan's bg (Rizen you should convert it into a jpeg)

update

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58461
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
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DistanceSpacing: 1.7
BeatDivisor: 3
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Nirvana
TitleUnicode:ニルバナ
Artist:Tia
ArtistUnicode:Tia
Creator:[ Rizen ]
Version:moph's Shinki
Source:ノラガミ ARAGOTO
Tags:noragami season two ending tv size supercell ryo moph iamkwan
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BeatmapSetID:361877

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7.8
ApproachRate:9
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IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2015-10-24T09:43:09+00:00

Done!
And I forget to convert the BG, please do it for me, thank you!

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Ringating

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Ringating 2015-10-24T19:04:56+00:00

realized the audio is a bit quiet, so I bumped it up 3 dB in mp3dc (I didn't re-encode, so the offset should be the same).

this technically causes some of the peaks to clip, but those peaks are mostly due to previous encoding and when they clip it isn't audible. the quality really isn't affected.

here's the mp3

11:57 AM - pishizo r.: also say that
11:57 AM - pishizo r.: mapper forgot some things on normal
11:57 AM - pishizo r.: he should be able to figure them out

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-24T23:01:04+00:00

Ringating wrote:
realized the audio is a bit quiet, so I bumped it up 3 dB in mp3dc (I didn't re-encode, so the offset should be the same).
this technically causes some of the peaks to clip, but those peaks are mostly due to previous encoding and when they clip it isn't audible. the quality really isn't affected.
here's the mp3
thank you! very much appreciated!

11:57 AM - pishizo r.: also say that
11:57 AM - pishizo r.: mapper forgot some things on normal
11:57 AM - pishizo r.: he should be able to figure them out

whoops, sorry about that :< I pulled an allnighter to watch the rugby world cup (GO ALL BLACKS!!! WOO!). Here's what I found/fixed:
Easy: fixed combo colours
Normal
00:01:100 (1) - NC
00:13:600 (6) - repeat slider -> single 1/1 zigzag slider

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2015-10-25T00:07:25+00:00

hint: 3->1

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-25T00:27:17+00:00

pishifat wrote:
hint: 3->1

I am so blind, fixed

[ Rizen ] wrote:
slider tick 3->1

Myxo

osu! Alumni

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Myxo 2015-10-25T08:21:52+00:00

[moph]

00:14:434 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Misplaced NC I guess

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Not a big fan of this difficulty. While areas like 01:15:267 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - have nice rhythms they look rather cramped due to the low SV and the spacing decisions. It would have helped to make 1/3-spacing smaller and 2/3-spacing slightly bigger to make them more differentiable, just like it's usually done in Hard/Insane difficulties (lower stream spacing than regular spacing). I suppose there is not much to do about it now though, it's not a huge problem.

Okay pishi already cleaned this up.

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-25T09:46:38+00:00

Desperate-kun

Desperate-kun wrote:
[moph]

00:14:434 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Misplaced NC I guess applied this for moph

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Not a big fan of this difficulty. While areas like 01:15:267 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - have nice rhythms they look rather cramped due to the low SV and the spacing decisions. It would have helped to make 1/3-spacing smaller and 2/3-spacing slightly bigger to make them more differentiable, just like it's usually done in Hard/Insane difficulties (lower stream spacing than regular spacing). I suppose there is not much to do about it now though, it's not a huge problem.

redid the entirety of Normal. pishifat, if you're reading this, please have a look at this diff again :[

Okay pishi already cleaned this up.

pishifat

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pishifat 2015-10-25T19:17:54+00:00

new normal is hot

and it still is

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rs_fadeaway

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rs_fadeaway 2015-10-25T22:49:45+00:00

hi, from my queue~

[Easy]
00:40:267 (4) - this note kinda out of grid

[KwanN's Hard]
change SV too many ,even in hyper, its 1.0X to the end.

[Hyper]
why name it hyper? its usually only used in IIDX source . mb just call it hard.

[Insane]
01:21:656 (3) - flow strange ctrl+g ?

[moph's shinki]
01:16:100 (1) - this slider seems little special, make a curve slider mb good ,and flows also better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3868250

nice maps, cant help more. GL

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-26T00:02:02+00:00

rs_fadeaway

rs_fadeaway wrote:
hi, from my queue~

[Easy]
00:40:267 (4) - this note kinda out of grid moved it

[Hyper]
why name it hyper? its usually only used in IIDX source . mb just call it hard. it's fine, Hyper is harder than a Hard :L

[Insane]
01:21:656 (3) - flow strange ctrl+g ? this is like that because the next slider has a very audible unique whistle(?) and I think it needs increased spacing to emphasize this

nice maps, cant help more. GL

thank you for the mod--

SPOILER

pop goes the bubble

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2015-10-26T00:07:12+00:00

Having yellow combo color as the indicator, SV reductions are fine. The spacing in Hard is also much smaller than that in Hyper, that is the major difference between them.

DakeDekaane

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DakeDekaane 2015-10-26T04:50:16+00:00

Just a quick skim through the difficulties. No kudosu deserved.

The grey combo colour kind of blends in Guest Difficulties, try something less dark for it? (darker would blend more)

Also, in KwaN's diff, the reverse arrow of 00:20:684 (7) - is barely visible

Nice mapset, good luck!

Rizen

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Rizen 2015-10-26T05:12:08+00:00

Did a quick round of polish (literally move things around by 1pixel)

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Myxo 2015-10-26T06:21:11+00:00

Since there weren't any significant changes since the bubble, qualified!

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Myxo 2015-10-26T06:24:05+00:00

dude
nice

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pishifat 2015-10-26T06:26:52+00:00

ok

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Lanturn 2015-10-26T06:29:03+00:00

well o.o

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