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Hika
Yeah but why is no one voting slaini?
That's like the obvious scummy person here tbh..
Gumica
Say, Hika, what do you think og sLaiNi?
MBomb
Btw Slaini, don't say what the thing is (I'm assuming you got it), and no one else say it if you did notice, however please state if you didn't notice. Just interested to see. There's a reason I don't want people to say what it is by the way that'll probably be revealed later because I'm probably gonna sleep soon.
Hika

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Btw Slaini, don't say what the thing is (I'm assuming you got it), and no one else say it if you did notice, however please state if you didn't notice. Just interested to see. There's a reason I don't want people to say what it is by the way that'll probably be revealed later because I'm probably gonna sleep soon.
You think so? lmao...
Hika

Gumica wrote:

Say, Hika, what do you think og sLaiNi?
Just a little secretive. I'm not very fond of that playstyle which obviously makes slaini suspicious to me.
Xiz
Everyone is noticing something I haven't noticed yet, damn it!
Birdy
Xiz using his playstyle as an excuse to cause confusion and almost scum(wolf)paint others with little to no clear evidence is really pinging me.

Also no, treebomb. You're not the only one.

Unvote

Considering voting Xiz for now.
Hika
So why's everyone voting Xiz?

Enlighten me and I'll probably consider.
Xiz
So if you decide to kill me at least give me a heads up so i can give final reads list on everyone before I die lol. There is a good chance I won't be on come mid tomorrow till the day after.
MBomb
Xiz, can you roleclaim please? There's a very specific reason for me asking.
MBomb

Hika wrote:

So why's everyone voting Xiz?

Enlighten me and I'll probably consider.
I'll answer if Xiz roleclaims.
MBomb
Also if anyone hammers Xiz now, they will be lynched tomorrow.
MBomb
(He's on L-1, don't do it).
Gumica
nope, he's on L-2
Xiz
So I just put 2 and 2 together now. I finally figured out what you are thinking.
I'll update my reads again. I no longer think slaini is scum. My top 2 are Jess and gumica.

I was hinting at something else, but it was interpreted as something completely different. Does that help?
Xiz
vote: jess
MBomb

Xiz wrote:

So I just put 2 and 2 together now. I finally figured out what you are thinking.
I'll update my reads again. I no longer think slaini is scum. My top 2 are Jess and gumica.

I was hinting at something else, but it was interpreted as something completely different. Does that help?
Ok yeah, that was what I thought, but I was just worried. Sorry if I drew extra attention.
MBomb
Not completely believing you, but the fact you stated that makes it better than I thought.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

nope, he's on L-2
Nope, me, slaini, and jess, it takes 4 votes to lynch, so he's on l-1

Unvote

Now he's on L-2.
MBomb
oh wait nvm slaini never voted him I thought he did whoops
MBomb

Xiz wrote:

So I just put 2 and 2 together now. I finally figured out what you are thinking.
I'll update my reads again. I no longer think slaini is scum. My top 2 are Jess and gumica.
Why gumica may I ask? I think I know your reasoning, but at the same time I don't particularly agree with that reasoning, if I am right.
-[Jess]-
prod dodge

busying with school,will post the read tomorrow. orz
MBomb
Oh, by the way, I've narrowed down the scum to 2 out of 3 people. 2 of my town reads I'm confident with, the other one is more null-town. One of the 3 people is Jess though, and we know how good a read on Jess is. However, looking through the ISOs of the people I think are scum, they haven't actually said anything particularaly scummy...

(By the way still not revealing reads until necessary)

Vote: Jess

Pretty sure this is right though, considering the two other people haven't really had a scum attitude towards this game as far as I can see (Well, one kind of has, but at the same time that same playstyle can also be used as town so I'm not gonna base a read on it entirely yet).
sLaiNi
I'm not happy with the answer we got, but I'll keep it like this for a day.

Also Jess starting the "School now, post later" again. Good thing she seems to be on a diet, as it's some time since she ate lunch before posting.
Birdy
I'm not seeing the reasoning behind scumreading Gumica. Though I'm tired and sick currently too.

Getting more and more confident about Jess (once again) and less confident about pretty much everyone else.
Birdy
Jess simply doesn't care. Dunno if it's because she's simply the worst player or sick and tired of scumroles.
Hika
You guys don't read Jess as town?
sLaiNi

Hika wrote:

You guys don't read Jess as town?

Enlighten us with your mighty "let's not let it look like a prod dodge" post.
Xiz
For me with Gumica it's a process of elimination.
Also, he hasn't really gone out of his way to give opinions, more back burner stuff.
Hika
Alright, I'll let you know this much. Do you really think that Jess is scum? I know it's impossible, she wouldn't give herself off so easily fucking D1. That's just not even right for her standards. We know how she is as a player but D1? I'd honestly believe that. You can sacrifice her but since you're the one that started picking on her first thing, I'm making sure you get lynched next day. I'll make that a promise.
Hika
She is literally 1 of my two town reads. I'm sorry but that was not like an "oh I give up because I'm always scum!", she's irritated because she knows she might die first.
If I am wrong D2, lynch me. If she flips town after everyone agrees to lynch her.

Even now I'm upset because everyone's all over the place with reads...
Hika
[b]@Mod: Votecount thx <3 [\b]
Hika
Omg wrong slash
But you know what I meant
Gumica
I did state few opinions, especially towards you. Your reaction, quite bluntly, doesn't surprize me now. But if you want an opinion about something, with all means, do ask.
Gumica
Jess scum? I don't think so. It's a game, why bother joining up if you tableflip over a role.
At this point I'm suspecting anyone targeting Jess for that kind of reason...
Gumica
But to be fair, I feel the frustration, as her gameplay doesn't help town in any sort of way.
MBomb
Tbh I'm mainly voting Jess for pressure reasons. Hopefully she'll talk more if there's votes on her.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Vote Count 1.03
"maybe if we put pressure on on jess she'll talk!"
[giggling intensifies]


[0] Hika --
[3] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz, - Magic Bomb - (L-1)
[1] sLaNi -- Hika
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[1] Xiz -- -[Jess]-
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, Gumica

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Hika
I agree Gumi, she's anti town but if she turns up flipping town, I've got my eyes on the first two of you.
And thanks for stating that MB.

@Xiz & MB, you have any town reads you'd like to reveal willingly atm?
Hika
First two referring to Xiz and sLaiNi, especially the latter.
MBomb
I'll reveal one townread, I'll decide who tomorrow, it's 2:38am now, I should sleep.
Birdy
Man, this must be the most "all over the place but still completely out of place" game I've been in so far. I understand Jess now, however I'm still completely wary of them.

Waiting for treebomb's read now, I guess. Today will be a busy day but I'll try to post something in about 8~10-ish hours.
Gumica
SNB, what do you understand about Jess now?
Gumica
Also, Ace Timing, as far as I know, I was in an [Not Voting] state.
-[Jess]-
I can't put myself in this game though.

Everyone just like pushing me harder to get my read

And ok it is here

People are vote me is scum (except the third person)
Other are null
Topic Starter
Ace Timing

Gumica wrote:

SNB, what do you understand about Jess now?
kk fixed now~
Gumica
@Ace kkty <3

@Jess, yeah really help[full/less] ?? Could you argument your reads about your scumreads and your Exception (I'm assuming that's MB)
Gumica
Let me edit my above post here, cause idk what i wrote :D

@Jess, Can you explain in sentences why you decided on these scumreads and your exception (Magic Bomb?)
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
try EBWODP
Gumica
yeah, i didn't recall what the abbreviation was called :D
MBomb
I just realised I was wrong when I said I had 2 townreads and 1 null-town. My reads are actually 1 townread and 2 null-town. Not entirely sure why I thought that one was actually fully town. Oh, but I don't want to say my main townread because of reasons I'll reveal later. Though I will reveal a null-town read, I guess. Something is telling me that Gumica is town, because of the way they're analysing this game, but this read isn't as certain as my town read yet. Everyone who's voting Jess by the way, it may be best to wait until tomorrow, although that's up to you, I just think it'd be a better way to get information if we vote someone else. Everyone say your favourite person to lynch today other than Jess, in case we have to come to some kinda agreement to get a lynch. Really, my vote is more of a "I'm pretty sure two of these three people are scum, let's lynch one and if they flip town I know the rest of the scum team"
MBomb
Oh i forgot to change vote.

Unvote
Vote: Slaini
Gumica
@MB: Why did you change the vote now, and what exactly made you vote Slaini?
MBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Tbh I'm mainly voting Jess for pressure reasons. Hopefully she'll talk more if there's votes on her.
With Jess, we've basically got all the information we'll get before deadline.

As for Slaini, it's PoE, he's more scummy than the other alternative I have in my mind.
Gumica
I see. Well, it was a tough gamble to pressurevote somebody when they're on L-1, knowing that people could just hammer.
But ok..

As to answer to your question about a favorite, I'd go with Xiz.
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

I can't put myself in this game though.
Atleast you got another excuse than "Eating lunch".

-[Jess]- wrote:

Everyone just like pushing me harder to get my read
So you basically said what we're all about and still you are not ready to give any useful thoughts and keep prod dodging?


My whole pushing on her was to get reads from here, as it's known that she is slipping alot. Now her answer just makes me even more suspicious of her. My vote was just putting pressure on her, but I'll keep it like this.
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Tbh I'm mainly voting Jess for pressure reasons. Hopefully she'll talk more if there's votes on her.
With Jess, we've basically got all the information we'll get before deadline.
Except that we did not get any information out of her.


As for Slaini, it's PoE, he's more scummy than the other alternative I have in my mind.[/quote]

Due to actually trying to get anything useful instead of putting the finger halfway into the water like you did. "Oh you possibly scumslipped there" "I did not" "Okay"?
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

My whole pushing on her was to get reads from here, as it's known that she is slipping alot. Now her answer just makes me even more suspicious of her. My vote was just putting pressure on her, but I'll keep it like this.
XD

omg newbie scum
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

XD

omg newbie scum
Actually, you just made me even more sure
MBomb

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

My whole pushing on her was to get reads from here, as it's known that she is slipping alot. Now her answer just makes me even more suspicious of her. My vote was just putting pressure on her, but I'll keep it like this.
XD

omg newbie scum
...wait is this you scumclaiming wut, if slaini was scum here he'd be playing better than some other scumplays I've seen...
MBomb
Unvote

ok i need time to think, I just realised if we get a mislynch we're on MyLo.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

I see. Well, it was a tough gamble to pressurevote somebody when they're on L-1, knowing that people could just hammer.
But ok..

As to answer to your question about a favorite, I'd go with Xiz.
If there was a hammer, the person would be lynched the next day anyway, I'd assume...
Drezi
/off/

why isn't Jess banned already? like seriously now, how can you keep playing like this.
-[Jess]-

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

...wait is this you scumclaiming wut, if slaini was scum here he'd be playing better than some other scumplays I've seen...
1. wut no

2. no he is not.
I am pretty sure he is scum.
MBomb
Hmm I'm starting to think a Jess lynch would be good again. The more i think about it, worst case scenario, we lose a town member, who isn't contributing much (if at all), and most likely the people who are pushing hardest are scum in that case because she's an easy mislynch, so we still get info.

Best case scenario, Jess is scum, and then I'm pretty sure I know who her scum partner would be.
Gumica
Based on what?
Gumica
fucking MB ninja'd me :D
the above question was directed at Jess
sLaiNi
I just noticed that we are only allowed to misslynch once in a row or we will loose right away. So cop and seer should better do their job as good as possible.


Also this requires us to think closely about who to lynch now.
Hika
Remember my warning, I will not forgive you sLaiNi if Jess flips town. I will seriously hunt the hell out of you if this keeps going.
I promise, my reads will flip if you guys don't quit this.

But you know what, just having one opinion on it won't work. If you guys don't see what I mean then so be it. I am against voting Jess. Please don't try to persuade me or anything. My vote stays where it is regardless.
sLaiNi

Hika wrote:

Remember my warning, I will not forgive you sLaiNi if Jess flips town. I will seriously hunt the hell out of you if this keeps going.
I promise, my reads will flip if you guys don't quit this.

But you know what, just having one opinion on it won't work. If you guys don't see what I mean then so be it. I am against voting Jess. Please don't try to persuade me or anything. My vote stays where it is regardless.
I don't feel like scum team would do this, as this would be the worst kind of buddying there. So either Jess is scum and Hika town, really trying to save Jess for unknown reasons, or Hika is scum and Jess is town and Hika tries to get towncred from playing hero there and getting easy misslynch day 2 (misslynch day 1 and day 2 together will be an instant loose for us).
Gumica
Say Hika... I understand your reasoning, as I do feel simmilar towards Jess... But then you have this dilema:

In case Jess is scum and we lynch another player today instead.
Lynched Player flips Town.
Would you still consider Jess to be town player tomorrow?
Would you rather have Jess living tomorrow despite his uselessness in townplay?
Perhaps that is his plan all along? To make players such as yourself think he's town by decieving you.
Who would you go after in that case..?
Hika
Who would I go after? SLaiNi, of course sLaiNi. That's my biggest scum read.

Yeah, maybe I'm 50%/50% on lynching Jess because in my gut feeling, I know she could be town playing anti town day one but she could also flip scum. I already put a bet on myself that if she does end up scum then fuck me and my opinions for the rest of the game but I will follow my gut feeling. After some consideration, I could vote Jess if we all come to an understanding here.
Hika
Ugh, you know what, this hurts, now I don't even want to play right now.
Hika
Unvote

Everyone state your biggest scum read and why we should be voting them at this very moment in time.
MBomb
To be honest I'm pretty sure either slaini or Jess are scum, so I would agree with lynching slaini if Jess flips town.
MBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Hmm I'm starting to think a Jess lynch would be good again. The more i think about it, worst case scenario, we lose a town member, who isn't contributing much (if at all), and most likely the people who are pushing hardest are scum in that case because she's an easy mislynch, so we still get info.

Best case scenario, Jess is scum, and then I'm pretty sure I know who her scum partner would be.
@Hika I'm kinda torn between slaini or Jess, but for the reasons stated above I think a Jess lynch is better.
Hika
Alright, well since you are my only town read right now, I can agree with this.
Thanks. I'll consider it.
Birdy

Gumica wrote:

SNB, what do you understand about Jess now?
The frustration.

Reading the new posts in full detail later tonight.
Gumica
Personally, I'm not convinced about Jess, so I'm not going to vote him personally. I am suspecting one of the three players to be scum amongst Xiz, MB and sLaiNi... Because fuq, I call bullshit that all players are pressuring Jess for info.

sLaiNi is a mystery to me, I cannot interpret him, so I'm vary of him.
MB is switchied cause of "PoE"... now... really....
Xiz on the other hand hasn't really added to the debate either and switched.


My vote will most likely go for Xiz, unless you convince me for a reason other than pressuring to vote Jess
sLaiNi

Gumica wrote:

Personally, I'm not convinced about Jess, so I'm not going to vote him personally. I am suspecting one of the three players to be scum amongst Xiz, MB and sLaiNi... Because fuq, I call bullshit that all players are pressuring Jess for info.

sLaiNi is a mystery to me, I cannot interpret him, so I'm vary of him.
MB is switchied cause of "PoE"... now... really....
Xiz on the other hand hasn't really added to the debate either and switched.


My vote will most likely go for Xiz, unless you convince me for a reason other than pressuring to vote Jess
I agree with MB being too switch-happy IMO.
sLaiNi
That being said, I don't see much scum in his playstyle beside his unlogical vote jumping. So his actions feel scummy, but his playstyle is simmilar to his town games.
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

That being said, I don't see much scum in his playstyle beside his unlogical vote jumping. So his actions feel scummy, but his playstyle is simmilar to his town games.
To be fair vote jumping is kinda a standard of my playstyle as both town and scum, so I don't think you should really choose that to decide your read on me.
MBomb
Honestly, the decision between slaini and Jess is kinda a difficult one, my votes have been because of PoE this whole game though...
Hika
I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
sLaiNi

Hika wrote:

I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
Let's say, at this moment I am definitely fine with a Jess lynch if she does not finally start talking.

For this game thought, I don't like the statement, that "lynching a town who is not helping to win is not bad", because every misslynch is crucial for town in this mini setup without protective PR.
sLaiNi
To make it clear:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.


@Hika My biggest scumread ATM would be Jess and I have a very strong feeling that there's scum between MB and xiz, while I strongly tend to xiz.
Hika

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
^

@Jess, I'll give you a chance before I start thinking that you're 100% scum.
If you are a PR, reveal yourself and RC, and if not, at least give us some reads.
MBomb
wait shit just realised I won't be on for deadline. Last I'll be on is in like 7 hours and that's if I don't oversleep before college. I'll try to get on in the morning, and I'll place my vote on Jess, unless the posts after this persuade me otherwise.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Vote Count 1.04


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[0] sLaNi --
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[1] Xiz -- -[Jess]-
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, Gumica, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Hika
No, I don't think she'll say anything different. Meh. This is the most frustrating part about a game. Won't even call in a replacement ...
-[Jess]-
I am at school now,post later.
MBomb

-[Jess]- wrote:

I am at school now,post later.
...I've already stated I won't be around before deadline.

No one hammer until two hours before deadline if she hasn't posted by then.

Vote: Jess
MBomb
Oh btw I might use my phone data at college just to post one thing just before deadline but yeah I'm not gonna keep refreshing to see if Jess posts anything.
MBomb
Really, no posts…?

Kk I should hopefully be on 20 minutes before deadline, idk though.
Gumica
I might not be here later either. I haven't sleept for the last 48 hours. I'm killed. So just in case:
Vote: Xiz
-[Jess]-
Give me some times, I have back to school.
Gumica
Well you have 12 hours left
-[Jess]-

Hika wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
^

@Jess, I'll give you a chance before I start thinking that you're 100% scum.
If you are a PR, reveal yourself and RC, and if not, at least give us some reads.
Done

So first at all,I am a VT.Second here is my read:

(Scum)sLaiNi<Xiz<Gumi<Hika<MB(town)
Gumica
I'm assuming your reasons for these reads, especially scum ones are over the same reasons as other people mentioned?

You're voting Xiz, yet your biggest scumread is sLaiNi?

Where is SNB on your list?
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Well you have 12 hours left
Isn't deadline in 20 minutes?
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