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OxT - Clattanoia [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Nofool
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mardi 1 septembre 2015 at 23:07:59

Artist: OxT
Title: Clattanoia
Source: Overlord
Tags: Backfire op opening
BPM: 190
Filesize: 3148kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Backfire's Inner Oni (4,74 stars, 675 notes)
  2. Futsuu (2,23 stars, 187 notes)
  3. Kantan (1,44 stars, 105 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2,84 stars, 328 notes)
  5. Oni (3,97 stars, 446 notes)
Download: OxT - Clattanoia
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Kantan (100% done)
Futsuu (100% done)
Muzukashii (100% done)
Oni (100% done)
Backfire's Inner Oni by Backfire (100% done)
READY FOR MOD
note to modders : i reduced the difficulty of lower difficulties in order to get the right icons (kantan<1,5*, futsuu<2,25*),now i need some opinion about how the spread is.
Lost The Lights
PM Me in-game when this is finished, i promised Backfire that i will mod this. Hi!

d=don
k=kat
D=Big Don
K=Big Kat
r=remove
(?)=Suggestion

[Kantan]
  1. Disable Widescreen Support
  2. 00:36:697 (46) - I dont really think this finisher should be here, there's no strong sound calling for it, remove.
  3. 00:46:487 (56) - Finisher for consistency with 00:43:644 (53,54,55) -
No big problems here!

[Futsuu]
  1. Disable Widescreen Support
Nothing here.

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:07:250 (18) - This 5-plet would be a really big gap from futsuu to muzu, so i strongly suggest to remove this note.
  2. 00:38:908 - 00:40:802 - Notes here? (?)
  3. 00:56:434 (22) - move this one to 00:56:513 - to follow better vocals and change it to k.
  4. 00:57:697 (27) - Same as 22.
  5. 01:11:671 (90) - Same as the first point.
  6. 01:21:697 (22) - This one sounds better as d imo.
Very nice Muzu!

[Oni]
  1. Disable Widescreen Support
  2. 00:00:855 (5) - I think this one sounds better as k. (?)
  3. 00:08:276 (46,47,49,50) - Since you're following the guitar, i suggest to change this notes to k to follow it better.
  4. 00:10:644 (56,59) - Same as before, just that for variety, change this 2 to k instead of the other 4 notes.
  5. 00:13:329 (69,70,73,74) - Same as before.
  6. 00:15:697 (80,81,84,85) - Same as before :P
  7. 01:13:171 (127) - Finisher (?)
  8. 01:18:223 (162) - Same, Finisher (?)
Nice Oni!

[Backfire's Inner Oni]
  1. Disable Widescreen Support
  2. Maybe increase OD to 6 Since you have the same HP/OD as Oni. (?)
  3. 00:08:829 - Add a note here, it feels poor if you compare this part with 00:08:118 (62,63,64) -
  4. 00:11:355 - Same as before.
  5. 00:38:908 (315) - Maybe add a finisher, since the sound is a little bit strong and its different from the other d's arround here.
  6. 00:54:381 (401) - This one sounds better as d imo. (?)
  7. 01:10:644 (528,529,530,531) - I think this sounds weird, try k ddk.
  8. 01:26:671 (6,7,9) - Invert this 3 notes, it sounds better imo. (And by invert them i mean changing 6 and 9 to d and 7 to k) (?)
Very nice Inner Backfire!

That's all from me, I hope this mod is helpfull, but anyways, here's a star for you!
Topic Starter
Nofool

Lost The Lights wrote:

PM Me in-game when this is finished, i promised Backfire that i will mod this. Hi!

d=don
k=kat
D=Big Don
K=Big Kat
r=remove
(?)=Suggestion

[Kantan]
  1. Disable Widescreen Support wtf i thought i did this already, fixed
  2. 00:36:697 (46) - I dont really think this finisher should be here, there's no strong sound calling for it, remove. there's a huge sound here tho, but that finisher doesn't really play yeah so gonna remove it
  3. 00:46:487 (56) - Finisher for consistency with 00:43:644 (53,54,55) - i hesitated a lot on this one lol, ok fixed
No big problems here!

[Futsuu]
  1. Disable Widescreen Support fixed
Nothing here.

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:07:250 (18) - This 5-plet would be a really big gap from futsuu to muzu, so i strongly suggest to remove this note. i saw it from some of dake's map but yeah that might big too big here, gonna wait for some more opinion
  2. 00:38:908 - 00:40:802 - Notes here? (?) done
  3. 00:56:434 (22) - move this one to 00:56:513 - to follow better vocals and change it to k. ok nice i had not even noticed the vocal was there lol, ok gonna do it since it sounds cool but might change it later for consistency issues
  4. 00:57:697 (27) - Same as 22. ^
  5. 01:11:671 (90) - Same as the first point.
  6. 01:21:697 (22) - This one sounds better as d imo. gonna keep k just to make it simple, might change it later
Very nice Muzu! thanks!

[Oni]
  1. Disable Widescreen Support k
  2. 00:00:855 (5) - I think this one sounds better as k. (?) d to make a difference with the surrounding k, also cover backfire's patterns used here
  3. 00:08:276 (46,47,49,50) - Since you're following the guitar, i suggest to change this notes to k to follow it better. mm i think i like how it plays currently even tho it is really basic, gonna keep for now and see if more peoples point this part
  4. 00:10:644 (56,59) - Same as before, just that for variety, change this 2 to k instead of the other 4 notes.
  5. 00:13:329 (69,70,73,74) - Same as before.
  6. 00:15:697 (80,81,84,85) - Same as before :P
  7. 01:13:171 (127) - Finisher (?) mm the song doesn't support it that much imo
  8. 01:18:223 (162) - Same, Finisher (?) ^
Nice Oni! thanks! also i tried something else in the second kiai where the vocal goes 3/4 so it fits the muzu.

That's all from me, I hope this mod is helpfull, but anyways, here's a star for you!
well thanks you! was pretty helpfull
- Love1yV1ruS -
Hello. From Virus's modding queue.

Oni
00:04:566 (22) - I prefer to delete this k to make this stream clean and clear.
00:07:013 (36,37,38,39,40) - for this kkkkk, I have three different options that may make it better - change it to ddkkk. Or delete the last 2 k and let it be kkk. Or delete the last 2 k and change it to ddk
00:17:750 (88) - this D is a little bit weird to me, i don see any effect of it. Try delete it and make a new d at 00:17:908 cuz the vocal already begin.
00:22:960 (115) - try k? cuz the vocal is very high here.
00:24:855 and 00:25:171 have very clear and loud vocal here ('Oh there' probably) and there isn't any corresponding note. By the way these stream series (from 00:22:802 to 00:26:276) is very random. They dont follow the vocal or the background drum point imo. Try follow the vocal? cuz vocal of this song is the highlight, isn't it? :D
00:27:539 (145,146,147) - eh, how about change kkk to a single simple D and the position is the first k
00:53:829 (15) - the same as first recommandation
01:03:934 (72) - as above
01:07:171 (91,92,93,94,95,96,97) - eh, try d k ddk k D?
01:17:276 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164) - ummm, simple dk swap seems boring and i see a lot in the last part. Try different ones? For exapmle, change this part to dkdkkkd

Muzukashii
After played i can't wait to say why you don't do the same thing as 00:56:276 (21,22,23) - in oni?????? these 1/3 is much better than your random style in oni imo!!! These vocal-corresponding 1/3 notes is very pleasant to hear and meanwhile speedchanges are suitable for oni diff.
00:08:750 (25) - 00:13:802 (46) - weird note and may delete. add another d d k at 00:08:908 and 00:13:960
00:10:329 - 00:15:381- d here.
Muzu is much better! Good job on muzu.

Futsuu
00:17:750 (35) - move the D to 00:17:592? The begin of a part is not important than the end of a part imo.
and nothing else, good job.

And may change OD of kantan to 3?
Enjoy~
Topic Starter
Nofool

- Love1yV1ruS - wrote:

Hello. From Virus's modding queue.

Oni
00:04:566 (22) - I prefer to delete this k to make this stream clean and clear. mm i prefer to keep for a better spread actually
00:07:013 (36,37,38,39,40) - for this kkkkk, I have three different options that may make it better - change it to ddkkk. Or delete the last 2 k and let it be kkk. Or delete the last 2 k and change it to ddk gonna try the ddkkk for now
00:17:750 (88) - this D is a little bit weird to me, i don see any effect of it. Try delete it and make a new d at 00:17:908 cuz the vocal already begin. huu i had a hard time making a choice here, i prefer it as it currently is because that rhythm is pretty clear, i chosed to not focus on the vocal.
00:22:960 (115) - try k? cuz the vocal is very high here.emphasize more the "in" from next k this way, also fit the others structures
00:24:855 and 00:25:171 have very clear and loud vocal here ('Oh there' probably) and there isn't any corresponding note. By the way these stream series (from 00:22:802 to 00:26:276) is very random. They dont follow the vocal or the background drum point imo. Try follow the vocal? cuz vocal of this song is the highlight, isn't it? :D my current patterns fit drums and background melody pretty well imo, i first tried to follo the vocal more on this section and i ended up having a real lack of consistency, so i chosed to focus on drums/background melody here
00:27:539 (145,146,147) - eh, how about change kkk to a single simple D and the position is the first k kkk plays better imo
00:53:829 (15) - the same as first recommandation ^
01:03:934 (72) - as above ^
01:07:171 (91,92,93,94,95,96,97) - eh, try d k ddk k D? changed to d k ddk d
01:17:276 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164) - ummm, simple dk swap seems boring and i see a lot in the last part. Try different ones? For exapmle, change this part to dkdkkkd keep for now, i might change it later but im fine with that kinda boring repetitiv pattern 8)

Muzukashii
After played i can't wait to say why you don't do the same thing as 00:56:276 (21,22,23) - in oni?????? these 1/3 is much better than your random style in oni imo!!! These vocal-corresponding 1/3 notes is very pleasant to hear and meanwhile speedchanges are suitable for oni diff. changed Oni in a similar way
00:08:750 (25) - 00:13:802 (46) - weird note and may delete. add another d d k at 00:08:908 and 00:13:960
00:10:329 - 00:15:381- d here. no changes yet, i think this part could be better but, for now i just tried to have a easy rhythm that i could repeat. what you suggest is understadable but i prefer to wait for more proposition.
Muzu is much better! Good job on muzu.

Futsuu
00:17:750 (35) - move the D to 00:17:592? The begin of a part is not important than the end of a part imo. i just picked this location because it sounds a bit higher to me
and nothing else, good job.

And may change OD of kantan to 3? keep for now, OD 3 really is low for the poor amount of notes
Enjoy~
Thanks!
Dino99
Hey~ M4M! ;)

<General>

  1. Your mp3 file is 256 kbps! You need to reduce it to 192 kbps~
  2. Your BG is too big! plz re-size it to 1366x768~
<Kantan>

  1. 00:09:381 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - Maybe remove all/some finish?? As a Kantan.. Too many K here IMO
  2. 00:32:908 (41) - Remove finish, because you didn't add one at 00:22:802 (26) - ....or add finish on this too~
  3. 00:49:329 (1,1) - Hmm I'm not sure if it's ok... The note come too fast after the Spinner lol
    Maybe delete the note and replace the Spinner with a Slider then u can end at 00:50:434 - Precisely, not like the Spinner.
  4. 01:00:697 (12) - Move it to 01:00:539 - to follow the vocal and end at 01:01:329 - maybe.. owoa"
  5. 01:15:539 (17) - Move this k to 01:16:487 - is pretty fit the music!! :3
<Futsuu>

  1. 00:47:434 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - D K K D K K - Spinner??
  2. 01:00:381 (24) - Move it to 01:00:223 - and if you accept the Slider should start at 01:00:539 - IMO
  3. 01:03:855 (31,32) - Hmm remove finish??
  4. 01:26:592 (2) - Move to 01:26:750 - ??
<Muzukashii>

  1. Hmm BPM 190.... It's a bit too hard~ Change to kkk k D?? ..But maybe it's ok here lol
  2. 01:11:434 (87,88,89,90,91) - ^ But I have to say it fit the music
  3. 01:16:487 (1) - d
Nice~


<Oni>

  1. 00:11:118 - Add k here, and add one at 00:16:171 - too, Make it all a bit different and fit the music~
  2. 00:20:118 - Add d here? Becuase I can hear a drum sound~
  3. 00:24:539 (129,130,131,132) - Here you can follow the vocal like this:
  4. 00:36:223 (209) - Remove this note only follow the vocal??
  5. 00:56:434 - add d
  6. 00:57:697 - ^
  7. 01:11:355 - Add d here? ddkkkkk
  8. 01:21:855 (173,174) - Should be d K??
  9. 01:26:513 - Add d, triplet sounds better IMO~ o_oa
<Backfire's Inner Oni>

  1. OD6 because it's Inner Oni~
  2. 00:04:960 (39) - K to follow the vocal better
  3. 00:17:908 (140) - I think you need a pause here, remove this note~
  4. 00:27:618 - Add d for longer stream!! :3
  5. 00:56:908 (422) - Remove it plz, make a pasue here fit the music so well!!
  6. 00:58:171 (431) - ^
  7. 00:59:434 (440) - ^
  8. 01:11:355 - Add a d here?
  9. 01:26:987 (10) - Delete this k
Nice song!! Really attractive~ xD

Good Luck Nofool~~ 8-) 8-)


EDIT: The diff spread is totally ok!
Backfire
Topic Starter
Nofool

12BARRY21 wrote:

Hey~ M4M! ;)

<General>

  1. Your mp3 file is 256 kbps! You need to reduce it to 192 kbps~
  2. Your BG is too big! plz re-size it to 1366x768~
will do both later

<Kantan>

  1. 00:09:381 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - Maybe remove all/some finish?? As a Kantan.. Too many K here IMO they are altight to me, anough break to prepare for them
  2. 00:32:908 (41) - Remove finish, because you didn't add one at 00:22:802 (26) - ....or add finish on this too~ doesn't sond the same
  3. 00:49:329 (1,1) - Hmm I'm not sure if it's ok... The note come too fast after the Spinner lol peoples almost always end the spinner way too early x_x imo it should be ok
    Maybe delete the note and replace the Spinner with a Slider then u can end at 00:50:434 - Precisely, not like the Spinner.
  4. 01:00:697 (12) - Move it to 01:00:539 - to follow the vocal and end at 01:01:329 - maybe.. owoa" mm not a bad idea, gonna keep for now and do this if more peoples point out this slider
  5. 01:15:539 (17) - Move this k to 01:16:487 - is pretty fit the music!! :3 mm well why not
<Futsuu>

  1. 00:47:434 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - D K K D K K - Spinner?? mm gonna wait for more opinion, im fine with them all as D
  2. 01:00:381 (24) - Move it to 01:00:223 - and if you accept the Slider should start at 01:00:539 - IMO as in Kantan
  3. 01:03:855 (31,32) - Hmm remove finish?? consistency with - 00:53:750 (6,7) -.
  4. 01:26:592 (2) - Move to 01:26:750 - ?? both are alright to me, gonna wait for more opinions again


<Muzukashii>

  1. Hmm BPM 190.... It's a bit too hard~ Change to kkk k D?? ..But maybe it's ok here lol
  2. 01:11:434 (87,88,89,90,91) - ^ But I have to say it fit the music ^ yeah it fits, im just a bit afraid about the difficulty jump from futsuu to this
  3. 01:16:487 (1) - d kk for vocal
Nice~


<Oni>

  1. 00:11:118 - Add k here, and add one at 00:16:171 - too, Make it all a bit different and fit the music~ well i prefer to keep it consistent
  2. 00:20:118 - Add d here? Becuase I can hear a drum sound~ yeah there's one, i just prefer to get more break here
  3. 00:24:539 (129,130,131,132) - Here you can follow the vocal like this: yeah sounds cool, done
  4. 00:36:223 (209) - Remove this note only follow the vocal?? plays better with it imo
  5. 00:56:434 - add d
  6. 00:57:697 - ^ mm i pref to emphasize the 1/3 rhythm here
  7. 01:11:355 - Add d here? ddkkkkk not really needed
  8. 01:21:855 (173,174) - Should be d K?? both work
  9. 01:26:513 - Add d, triplet sounds better IMO~ o_oa done
Nice song!! Really attractive~ xD

Good Luck Nofool~~ 8-) 8-)


EDIT: The diff spread is totally ok!
Thanks!

updated Backfire's diff too
Labyr
sorry, for late ;_; M4M~

[ General]
  1. as 12BARRY21 is written 『BackGround Resolution resize and mp3 file is 256 kbps → ~192kbps
[ Kantan]
  1. 00:50:276 - end this spinner at 00:50:592 and 00:50:434 - remove 1/1 notes ×6 ... come too fast after the Spinner and k
  2. 01:01:644 - end this slider at 01:01:960 and 01:01:802 - remove
[ Futsuu]
  1. there's nothing
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:32:750 - remove
  2. 01:00:539 - remove or change k
[ Oni]
  1. 00:04:644 - change to d and 00:04:802 - add k because 00:07:329 is notes, so add it here notes.
  2. I suggest it. 00:07:802 ~ follow is drum If please review it. for example 00:08:592 - drum k , 00:13:644 - drum k etc...
  3. 01:16:644 (151,152) - swap notes.
[ Backfire's Inner Oni]
  1. there's nothing
good luck!! Nofool san ;)
Renka
hi,from m4m,sorry late mod;;

[Kantan]

00:40:802 - add note?
00:47:434 - dkdkdk?

01:00:697 - note is a little difficult after the slider in this BPM,So 01:00:697~ Try in this way? http://puu.sh/jLmiP/4b25578c83.jpg


[Futsuu]
00:07:013 - change d? - I think I better sound
00:20:908 - change k? - ^
00:23:434 - ^
00:25:960 - ^
00:31:013 - ^
00:33:539 - ^
00:37:013 - change K?
00:40:487,00:40:802 - add dk?
00:47:434 - same as Kantan
01:00:066 - change d?
01:06:381 - k?
01:07:802 - k?
01:09:066 - d?
01:14:434 - k?

Muzu and Oni,I see later..
Renka
hi,2rd mod,no kudosu:3

[Muzukashii]

00:07:092 - delete?
00:07:250 - ^
00:08:908 - add k? or 00:09:223 - add d? - I felt a sense of discomfort...
00:13:960 - ^ or 00:14:276 - add d?
00:18:855 - delete?
00:23:592 - ^
00:26:829 - ^
00:28:960 - change k? -sound is good
00:30:144 - delete?
00:30:223 - ^
00:31:487 - change k?
00:47:434 - dkdkdk?
01:07:802 - change k?

[Oni]
00:08:908 - change k? - sound is good.
00:11:434 - ^
00:13:960 - ^
00:16:329 - kdk?
00:47:434 - same as Muzukashii
01:15:144 - delete? - a little difficult?
01:15:776 - ^

nice song and map,thx m4m :3 good luck!
Topic Starter
Nofool

Labyr wrote:

sorry, for late ;_; M4M~

[ General]
  1. as 12BARRY21 is written 『BackGround Resolution resize and mp3 file is 256 kbps → ~192kbps
yeah will change that later

[ Kantan]
  1. 00:50:276 - end this spinner at 00:50:592 and 00:50:434 - remove 1/1 notes ×6 ... come too fast after the Spinner and k i think it is ok because most of the players end spinner very fast, still enough time to react
  2. 01:01:644 - end this slider at 01:01:960 and 01:01:802 - remove
can't miss the vocal here x_x

[ Futsuu]
  1. there's nothing
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:32:750 - remove mm idk, i want to keep it for consistency for now, a break here is kinda weird because of - 00:30:223 -
  2. 01:00:539 - remove or change k
kept for drums

[ Oni]
  1. 00:04:644 - change to d and 00:04:802 - add k because 00:07:329 is notes, so add it here notes. first kkk fits the vocal, then the ddkkk fits more the instrumental, similar to Muzu
  2. I suggest it. 00:07:802 ~ follow is drum If please review it. for example 00:08:592 - drum k , 00:13:644 - drum k etc... I am still no sure here, i don't want to add too many notes so the spread muzu/oni/inner stays alright, but in the end i'll probably add some k there so wait for more opinion
  3. 01:16:644 (151,152) - swap notes.
lol why not, changed

[ Backfire's Inner Oni]
  1. there's nothing
good luck!! Nofool san ;) lol ;w;
Thanks!

chaica wrote:

hi,from m4m,sorry late mod;;

[Kantan]

00:40:802 - add note? break for spread
00:47:434 - dkdkdk? might be harder than only d here

01:00:697 - note is a little difficult after the slider in this BPM,So 01:00:697~ Try in this way? http://puu.sh/jLmiP/4b25578c83.jpg


[Futsuu]
00:07:013 - change d? - I think I better sound ok
00:20:908 - change k? - ^ keept d, consistency with - 00:18:381 -
00:23:434 - ^ ^
00:25:960 - ^ ^
00:31:013 - ^ ^
00:33:539 - ^ ^
00:37:013 - change K? both sound are very similar,+ i think D D is easier to handle
00:40:487,00:40:802 - add dk? mm still not i think
00:47:434 - same as Kantan ^
01:00:066 - change d? mm this time i prefer to keep k, to keep pattern reverse
01:06:381 - k?
01:07:802 - k?
01:09:066 - d? prefer to keep one color each time ^
01:14:434 - k? added finisher


[Muzukashii]

00:07:092 - delete? gonna try to keep that
00:07:250 - ^ ^
00:08:908 - add k? or 00:09:223 - add d? - I felt a sense of discomfort... mm idk it plays well to me, alternating the same patterns a bit
00:13:960 - ^ or 00:14:276 - add d?
00:18:855 - delete?
00:23:592 - ^ lol i like the idea, removed both
00:26:829 - ^ mm id like to keep something else than dkkkd here
00:28:960 - change k? -sound is good prefer to keep similar patterns because of the density
00:30:144 - delete?
00:30:223 - ^
00:31:487 - change k?
00:47:434 - dkdkdk? ^
01:07:802 - change k? dd consistency with futsuu

[Oni]
00:08:908 - change k? - sound is good.
00:11:434 - ^
00:13:960 - ^
00:16:329 - kdk? this and ^^, i want to keep similar patterns here
00:47:434 - same as Muzukashii >w<
01:15:144 - delete? - a little difficult?
01:15:776 - ^ mm i will think about those, it actually prepares a bit for long stream around there in the Inner

nice song and map,thx m4m :3 good luck!
Thanks! made some valuable changes
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