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Topic Starter
timing mod
22:41 Sirade: ok
22:43 Sirade: thx for finding the first offset but can you find the multi BPM for this song?
22:43 byfar: yea im doign that
22:44 Sirade: ok, thx in adv for finding for me
22:46 byfar: 99.65 bpm offset 1721
22:46 byfar: ok first how many timing changes are there
22:46 byfar: or
22:46 byfar: do u think there are
22:46 Sirade: wait
22:46 Sirade: checking..
22:47 Sirade: from http://cytus.wikia.com/wiki/Alive:_Vanessa it says there is BPM from 111-145
22:48 byfar: hopefully there isnt like 50
22:48 Sirade: and idk about timing changes though. '-'
22:50 byfar: 3rd 111.19
22:50 byfar: 2902 offset
22:50 byfar: there're random 1/3 notes
22:50 Sirade: ok
22:52 byfar: 117.07
22:52 byfar: 11502
22:53 Sirade: ok
22:54 byfar: normally u wouldnt want to map anything that has more than 10 red ticks lol
22:54 byfar: 117.07
22:54 byfar: 19422
22:55 Sirade: ok
22:55 byfar: actually sorry last offset 19417
22:56 Sirade: ok
22:58 Sirade: hey, wondering can you skip to 66568
22:58 Sirade: i think it might be better to start mapping that part and..
22:58 byfar: give me map time
22:58 Sirade: sry for letting you find those annoying timings that aren't used. '-'
22:58 byfar: yea u can just not map that part
22:58 byfar: and start from
22:59 byfar: 1:06
22:59 Sirade: ok, do you know the correct offset of 1:06
23:00 byfar: 67016
23:00 byfar: 67916
23:00 byfar: and bpm 145
23:01 Sirade: ok any other parts can you think of?
23:03 byfar: wait
23:03 Sirade: ok
23:03 byfar: i think everything after 679165
23:04 byfar: 67916
23:04 byfar: is just 145
23:04 byfar: only the slow part is around 110~~
23:04 Sirade: ok, thanks for your help.
23:04 byfar: np
23:04 byfar: timing takes too long
23:04 byfar: i had one that took me 1 hour >.>
23:04 Sirade:
23:05 Sirade: how many BPM changes does it have? more than 20?
23:05 byfar: back had around 5
23:05 byfar: but finding the right offset
23:05 byfar: was a pain
23:05 byfar: even by milliseconds
23:06 Sirade: ok, but wondering how do you find those BPM and timings?
23:06 byfar: 25%
23:06 byfar: countless retry
23:06 byfar: on that part
23:07 byfar: to find offset
23:07 byfar: and bpm
23:07 Sirade: ok. ._.
23:07 byfar: yea thats why mopst ppl dont map BPM changes
23:07 byfar: cuz timing takes too long
23:08 byfar: u know pluto?
23:08 byfar: that map has about 20 bpm changes
23:08 byfar: but thats cuz it was from beatmania iidx
23:08 byfar: and it had already given BPMs
23:08 byfar: from that game
23:08 Sirade: pluto? well, i heard that song before
23:08 *byfar is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/147146 Black Hole - Pluto]
23:09 Sirade: ok. '-'
23:11 byfar: ok not 20 but 15
23:12 Sirade: hm... ok
22:41 Sirade: ok
22:43 Sirade: thx for finding the first offset but can you find the multi BPM for this song?
22:43 byfar: yea im doign that
22:44 Sirade: ok, thx in adv for finding for me
22:46 byfar: 99.65 bpm offset 1721
22:46 byfar: ok first how many timing changes are there
22:46 byfar: or
22:46 byfar: do u think there are
22:46 Sirade: wait
22:46 Sirade: checking..
22:47 Sirade: from http://cytus.wikia.com/wiki/Alive:_Vanessa it says there is BPM from 111-145
22:48 byfar: hopefully there isnt like 50
22:48 Sirade: and idk about timing changes though. '-'
22:50 byfar: 3rd 111.19
22:50 byfar: 2902 offset
22:50 byfar: there're random 1/3 notes
22:50 Sirade: ok
22:52 byfar: 117.07
22:52 byfar: 11502
22:53 Sirade: ok
22:54 byfar: normally u wouldnt want to map anything that has more than 10 red ticks lol
22:54 byfar: 117.07
22:54 byfar: 19422
22:55 Sirade: ok
22:55 byfar: actually sorry last offset 19417
22:56 Sirade: ok
22:58 Sirade: hey, wondering can you skip to 66568
22:58 Sirade: i think it might be better to start mapping that part and..
22:58 byfar: give me map time
22:58 Sirade: sry for letting you find those annoying timings that aren't used. '-'
22:58 byfar: yea u can just not map that part
22:58 byfar: and start from
22:59 byfar: 1:06
22:59 Sirade: ok, do you know the correct offset of 1:06
23:00 byfar: 67016
23:00 byfar: 67916
23:00 byfar: and bpm 145
23:01 Sirade: ok any other parts can you think of?
23:03 byfar: wait
23:03 Sirade: ok
23:03 byfar: i think everything after 679165
23:04 byfar: 67916
23:04 byfar: is just 145
23:04 byfar: only the slow part is around 110~~
23:04 Sirade: ok, thanks for your help.
23:04 byfar: np
23:04 byfar: timing takes too long
23:04 byfar: i had one that took me 1 hour >.>
23:04 Sirade:
23:05 Sirade: how many BPM changes does it have? more than 20?
23:05 byfar: back had around 5
23:05 byfar: but finding the right offset
23:05 byfar: was a pain
23:05 byfar: even by milliseconds
23:06 Sirade: ok, but wondering how do you find those BPM and timings?
23:06 byfar: 25%
23:06 byfar: countless retry
23:06 byfar: on that part
23:07 byfar: to find offset
23:07 byfar: and bpm
23:07 Sirade: ok. ._.
23:07 byfar: yea thats why mopst ppl dont map BPM changes
23:07 byfar: cuz timing takes too long
23:08 byfar: u know pluto?
23:08 byfar: that map has about 20 bpm changes
23:08 byfar: but thats cuz it was from beatmania iidx
23:08 byfar: and it had already given BPMs
23:08 byfar: from that game
23:08 Sirade: pluto? well, i heard that song before
23:08 *byfar is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/147146 Black Hole - Pluto]
23:09 Sirade: ok. '-'
23:11 byfar: ok not 20 but 15
23:12 Sirade: hm... ok
If this song is ready, call me 
Topic Starter
Ok.Kazamastar11 wrote:
If this song is ready, call me
"Cranky pico" ?
This song has nothing to do with them.. So, remove
I suggest you to remove Alive from the title and move it to the tags..
This song has nothing to do with them.. So, remove
I suggest you to remove Alive from the title and move it to the tags..
Topic Starter
Well.. Will remove Pico (just some misunderstanding that I accidentally added him/her) soon but not Cranky since this song is the collaboration (or made by two artist/composer) between Cranky and Vila, but Cranky is not credited in the artist section though.Kazamastar11 wrote:
"Cranky pico" ?
This song has nothing to do with them.. So, remove
I suggest you to remove Alive from the title and move it to the tags..
Since it is categorized as Song with Multiple Authors while also being categorized as Cranky Songs and Vila Songs, it must be a collaboration between Cranky and Vila
And I don't think altering or editing the song name is rankable here, so will just leave it there.
So thanks for telling.
Well, will remove "pico" as you told and continue the map later once I finished checking my marathon map (you might know what it is).
Well,
Cranky is important for the tags..
BUT,
You can still put pico because..
VILA = Cranky+Pico
Deny my kds plz..
Cranky is important for the tags..
BUT,
You can still put pico because..
VILA = Cranky+Pico
Deny my kds plz..
Topic Starter
Oh well, then ok, will re-add it once I finish one of the difficulties, so thanks for your help.Kazamastar11 wrote:
Well,
Cranky is important for the tags..
BUT,
You can still put pico because..
VILA = Cranky+Pico
Deny my kds plz.. Ok, will ask a BAT to deny it, as your request
hey, let me guess, since i see you on the most of the beatmap's song that came from cytus.. you like cytus, right? =)
Hello, use this mp3, better quality. http://puu.sh/hxrDY/0a72b68a7b.mp3 (Right clic>save link for download)
Remember to check offset again.
Remember to check offset again.
Topic Starter
Thanks!Todestrieb wrote:
Hello, use this mp3, better quality. http://puu.sh/hxrDY/0a72b68a7b.mp3 (Right clic>save link for download)
Remember to check offset again.
Will check the file later once I got home.
Hi Sirade, came here for M4M from your queue
First of all, this mod will be general and timing only. I will mod your map again if you have done with the timing.
And yeah, I have been played Cytus but never found this song. Is it secret song? hehe
First of all, this mod will be general and timing only. I will mod your map again if you have done with the timing.
General
HP: 7 OD: 7
BG Size must be 1366 x 768
Since this is marathon map, your mp3 should be 128 kbps only. 192 kbps is only for short songs. Just compress your current mp3 to 128 kbps
Remove the breaktime. Mania maps shouldn't have any breaktime
You must map the first minute OR if you don't want you must cut your mp3
BG Size must be 1366 x 768
Since this is marathon map, your mp3 should be 128 kbps only. 192 kbps is only for short songs. Just compress your current mp3 to 128 kbps
Remove the breaktime. Mania maps shouldn't have any breaktime
You must map the first minute OR if you don't want you must cut your mp3
Timing
Here is the suggested timing for this
I have seen the mod above and see that this song has 111 - 145 bpm but I think the slow parts have lower bpm as well.
Don't forget to look at the "time signature" (highlighted by blue) it have some changes like 3/4 and 6/4
Resnap everything after you change the timing
I have seen the mod above and see that this song has 111 - 145 bpm but I think the slow parts have lower bpm as well.
Don't forget to look at the "time signature" (highlighted by blue) it have some changes like 3/4 and 6/4
Resnap everything after you change the timing
And yeah, I have been played Cytus but never found this song. Is it secret song? hehe
Topic Starter
OMG THANKSRaediaufar wrote:
Hi Sirade, came here for M4M from your queue
First of all, this mod will be general and timing only. I will mod your map again if you have done with the timing.GeneralHP: 7 OD: 7
BG Size must be 1366 x 768
Since this is marathon map, your mp3 should be 128 kbps only. 192 kbps is only for short songs. Just compress your current mp3 to 128 kbps
Remove the breaktime. Mania maps shouldn't have any breaktime
You must map the first minute OR if you don't want you must cut your mp3TimingHere is the suggested timing for this
I have seen the mod above and see that this song has 111 - 145 bpm but I think the slow parts have lower bpm as well.
Don't forget to look at the "time signature" (highlighted by blue) it have some changes like 3/4 and 6/4
Resnap everything after you change the timing
And yeah, I have been played Cytus but never found this song. Is it secret song? hehe yeah, it is, lol, just click the hard or easy bubble (depends on the difficulty) on the chapter selection
but well, about timing, can you help me something, it is quite hard and i could make a mistake i i read and write those timing, i tried but i noticed some mistake but i think you can help
Just go the beatmap
then File > Open .osu in notepad
http://puu.sh/hB4Zc/c1ee3bf788.jpg
Then copy the timings for me please, I tried to manually add those timing and I noticed some mistake so I'm sure you can help me alot with this.
http://puu.sh/hB4WI/3d5e041aec.png
I'll add those new BG and MP3 soon.
some reminders : http://puu.sh/hB9sg/5ee1ed7630.txt
Candiize
Topic Starter
Candiize wrote:
timing is wrong >
offset 516 bpm 110 done
offset 9243 bpm 115 hm... done
offset 19266 bpm 110 done
offset 39288 bpm 120 this bpm aren't need though
offset 66070 bpm 145 this bpm aren't need though
these are general bpm
ill try to help you more tomorrow
hm, well updated
will do the M4M request, tomorrow. :l
sry for letting for letting you wait..
Mod as requested from Grune's modding queue
Feel free to implement or reject if you think this is useless ~~o(>_<)o ~~
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bam
]as i've written my reason above clearly. i won't rewrite it when i mod below.
note that i take PR very seriously, especially when you don't have any strong justification not follow PR.
00:03:243 (3243|1) - 3
00:03:743 (3743|3,3788|2,3834|1) - ctrl g
00:04:334 (4334|0) - 3
00:04:879 (4879|1,5425|2) - 1 2
00:05:970 (5970|2,6016|1,6061|0) - ctrl G
00:07:061 (7061|1) - 1
00:10:286 (10286|1,10329|2,10373|3) - drag 1x to left
00:10:808 (10808|2) - 4
00:11:297 - use 2 or 3 note. strong chord emphasis.
00:13:768 (13768|1) - obviously should be 4
00:30:241 - use 2 or 3 notes, different emphasis
00:19:261 - until 00:31:915 - revamp based on my suggestion above. do a self-mod and check for PR
00:39:831 - until 01:07:708 - please use SN, there are only a few notes there, it reflects the sustained instrument better
01:17:742 (77742|2,77845|1,77949|3,78052|0) - if you'r following that woodwind sound, then this is wrong. there is only 3 different pitch
01:17:949 - delete the SN here and drag that LN down to this time, but put it at 1
01:23:225 (83225|1) - 3
01:41:018 - should have 3 notes just like your usual pattern for this beat
01:55:708 (115708|3) - 3
02:11:443 - add short note to 4, because there are 2 woodwind sound here, express the other one with SN
02:12:277 - add at 4 or 1
02:13:110 - add at 3
02:14:777 - add at 4
02:16:443 - add at 1
02:18:110 - and so on, you know what i mean
02:23:643 (143643|1,143850|2,144057|1,144264|0,144678|2) - very strong emphasis here, use 2 notes instead to reflect it more accurately. resting time is done above already
until 02:29:643 - , use 2 notes consistently. after this, you use 3 notes for parts which have beat, so it flows more naturally because not a lot of emphasis added and thus the transition (from 2 notes, to 3 notes, feels more natural, compared to if you just put 1 earlier and then suddenly a lot of 3)
02:50:126 (170126|3,170229|2) - no reason to use LN here, revamp
04:23:509 (263509|1) - should be at 4, exchange them
04:31:784 (271784|1,272612|0) - drag 2 x to right and adjust your SN
it should be 4 3 2 1 because the pitch consistently declines
04:40:060 (280060|0,281302|1,281715|2) - should be 4 3 2
04:43:371 (283371|1,284612|0,285026|1) - put on 323
04:46:681 (286681|2,287922|1,288336|0) - 4 2 1
04:49:991 -04:56:612 - readjust, your PR is very random
04:54:957 (294957|0) - sustain it until 04:57:026 -
04:57:026 - add LN, still following that soprano
05:09:750 - again, only 1 note, i see no justification not to follow PR, revamp this whole section until 05:36:253 -
I'll take up on your offer to do M4M on the map that you chose.
please take note that I follow PR as well as hand balancing. (on that map as well) because i also utilise pitched hitsound when mapping.
good luck!! o(≧v≦)o~~
note that i take PR very seriously, especially when you don't have any strong justification not follow PR.
00:03:243 (3243|1) - 3
00:03:743 (3743|3,3788|2,3834|1) - ctrl g
00:04:334 (4334|0) - 3
00:04:879 (4879|1,5425|2) - 1 2
00:05:970 (5970|2,6016|1,6061|0) - ctrl G
00:07:061 (7061|1) - 1
00:10:286 (10286|1,10329|2,10373|3) - drag 1x to left
00:10:808 (10808|2) - 4
00:11:297 - use 2 or 3 note. strong chord emphasis.
00:13:768 (13768|1) - obviously should be 4
00:30:241 - use 2 or 3 notes, different emphasis
00:19:261 - until 00:31:915 - revamp based on my suggestion above. do a self-mod and check for PR
00:39:831 - until 01:07:708 - please use SN, there are only a few notes there, it reflects the sustained instrument better
01:17:742 (77742|2,77845|1,77949|3,78052|0) - if you'r following that woodwind sound, then this is wrong. there is only 3 different pitch
01:17:949 - delete the SN here and drag that LN down to this time, but put it at 1
01:23:225 (83225|1) - 3
01:41:018 - should have 3 notes just like your usual pattern for this beat
01:55:708 (115708|3) - 3
02:11:443 - add short note to 4, because there are 2 woodwind sound here, express the other one with SN
02:12:277 - add at 4 or 1
02:13:110 - add at 3
02:14:777 - add at 4
02:16:443 - add at 1
02:18:110 - and so on, you know what i mean
02:23:643 (143643|1,143850|2,144057|1,144264|0,144678|2) - very strong emphasis here, use 2 notes instead to reflect it more accurately. resting time is done above already
until 02:29:643 - , use 2 notes consistently. after this, you use 3 notes for parts which have beat, so it flows more naturally because not a lot of emphasis added and thus the transition (from 2 notes, to 3 notes, feels more natural, compared to if you just put 1 earlier and then suddenly a lot of 3)
02:50:126 (170126|3,170229|2) - no reason to use LN here, revamp
04:23:509 (263509|1) - should be at 4, exchange them
04:31:784 (271784|1,272612|0) - drag 2 x to right and adjust your SN
it should be 4 3 2 1 because the pitch consistently declines
04:40:060 (280060|0,281302|1,281715|2) - should be 4 3 2
04:43:371 (283371|1,284612|0,285026|1) - put on 323
04:46:681 (286681|2,287922|1,288336|0) - 4 2 1
04:49:991 -04:56:612 - readjust, your PR is very random
04:54:957 (294957|0) - sustain it until 04:57:026 -
04:57:026 - add LN, still following that soprano
05:09:750 - again, only 1 note, i see no justification not to follow PR, revamp this whole section until 05:36:253 -
I'll take up on your offer to do M4M on the map that you chose.
please take note that I follow PR as well as hand balancing. (on that map as well) because i also utilise pitched hitsound when mapping.
good luck!! o(≧v≦)o~~
Excellent Beatmap!!! Nice Song!!! d(≧v≦)b~~
Good Luck for rank!! O(∩_∩)O
for M4M
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[Marathon]
AiMod: object at 00:12:913 isn't snapped!
There are timing issues (as pointed out by other modders). You'd better find someone good at timing to check (I suck at timing
)
00:05:425 - 00:06:516 - three continuous note at 2 is no good. Move 00:06:516 (6516|2) - to 3 I guess
00:08:243 - I think there is a note here (use 25% playback to check)
00:26:351 - 00:27:429 - as in 00:05:425 - . Move 00:27:429 - to 3
00:30:781 - 00:31:997 - use 1,2,3 instead
00:39:816 (39816|0,40299|2) - 3,0 instead for pitch
00:42:782 (42782|2,42782|1) - Remove one note. No sound suggests double
00:44:282 (44282|1,44782|3) - Ctrl-G
00:46:782 - 00:47:782 - Ctrl-G
00:51:782 - 00:52:782 - 3,2,0
01:02:782 (62782|0,62844|1,62907|2) - This seems wrong. You'd better recheck this with 25% playback.
01:06:594 - Add an LN around here for the SE. You may need to move around once better timing is found
01:17:742 (77742|2,77845|1) - Ctrl-G
01:45:880 (105880|1) - Guitar isn't present here. Remove.
01:46:708 (106708|0) - ^
01:53:225 (113225|1) - You was using double around. Remove this so no triples.
01:57:776 - Missing layer guitar here I guess. Add note?
02:03:363 (123363|3) - Remove I guess. No guitar to layer here
02:16:443 - Add note at 0 for extra-strong sound
02:54:471 - Missing note
04:10:190 (250190|0) - Remove? There isn't like a sound here. LN-end here is enough
04:10:815 - Add note at 2 for soft violin.
04:18:453 (258453|2) - Move to 0?
04:20:120 (260120|0) - this to 1
04:31:371 (271371|0) - Move to 2?
04:51:646 (291646|0,292474|3) - Ctrl-G, move 04:53:302 (293302|0) - to 3
05:09:771 (309771|0,310081|0,310391|0) - Different sound should have different pitch. I would use 0,1,2 here. I am not repeating myself but many places in 05:09:771 - 05:17:839 - also have this issue
05:35:064 - Add LN for SE. Again, may not be exact timing.
05:57:977 (357977|1,357977|3) - No jacks here. I doubt if there is any sounds here...
06:01:908 - Add note?
06:14:426 (374426|2) - Guitar absent. Remove.
06:15:253 (375253|2) - ^
06:21:357 - 06:21:564 - Missing percussion
06:24:253 - Add note
06:28:184 - Missing guitar layer
06:45:150 (405150|0,405357|0) - Remove? No doubles here?
Good luck!
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[Marathon]
AiMod: object at 00:12:913 isn't snapped!
There are timing issues (as pointed out by other modders). You'd better find someone good at timing to check (I suck at timing
)00:05:425 - 00:06:516 - three continuous note at 2 is no good. Move 00:06:516 (6516|2) - to 3 I guess
00:08:243 - I think there is a note here (use 25% playback to check)
00:26:351 - 00:27:429 - as in 00:05:425 - . Move 00:27:429 - to 3
00:30:781 - 00:31:997 - use 1,2,3 instead
00:39:816 (39816|0,40299|2) - 3,0 instead for pitch
00:42:782 (42782|2,42782|1) - Remove one note. No sound suggests double
00:44:282 (44282|1,44782|3) - Ctrl-G
00:46:782 - 00:47:782 - Ctrl-G
00:51:782 - 00:52:782 - 3,2,0
01:02:782 (62782|0,62844|1,62907|2) - This seems wrong. You'd better recheck this with 25% playback.
01:06:594 - Add an LN around here for the SE. You may need to move around once better timing is found
01:17:742 (77742|2,77845|1) - Ctrl-G
01:45:880 (105880|1) - Guitar isn't present here. Remove.
01:46:708 (106708|0) - ^
01:53:225 (113225|1) - You was using double around. Remove this so no triples.
01:57:776 - Missing layer guitar here I guess. Add note?
02:03:363 (123363|3) - Remove I guess. No guitar to layer here
02:16:443 - Add note at 0 for extra-strong sound
02:54:471 - Missing note
04:10:190 (250190|0) - Remove? There isn't like a sound here. LN-end here is enough
04:10:815 - Add note at 2 for soft violin.
04:18:453 (258453|2) - Move to 0?
04:20:120 (260120|0) - this to 1
04:31:371 (271371|0) - Move to 2?
04:51:646 (291646|0,292474|3) - Ctrl-G, move 04:53:302 (293302|0) - to 3
05:09:771 (309771|0,310081|0,310391|0) - Different sound should have different pitch. I would use 0,1,2 here. I am not repeating myself but many places in 05:09:771 - 05:17:839 - also have this issue
05:35:064 - Add LN for SE. Again, may not be exact timing.
05:57:977 (357977|1,357977|3) - No jacks here. I doubt if there is any sounds here...
06:01:908 - Add note?
06:14:426 (374426|2) - Guitar absent. Remove.
06:15:253 (375253|2) - ^
06:21:357 - 06:21:564 - Missing percussion
06:24:253 - Add note
06:28:184 - Missing guitar layer
06:45:150 (405150|0,405357|0) - Remove? No doubles here?
Good luck!
Topic Starter
OMG THX THX THXschwarzvgrune wrote:
Hi ~\(≧▽≦)/~
Mod as requested from Grune's modding queue
Feel free to implement or reject if you think this is useless ~~o(>_<)o ~~Icon BibliographyNo emoticon in Black = normal suggestions based on rationale of modding given below~
o(≧v≦)o~~ = everything is good~
Σ( ° △ °|||)︴ = error / mistake / extremely recommended to be modified~
(⊙o⊙)？ = unclear / questionable parts, thus cannot give a decisive recommendations~
O(∩_∩)O~ = other comments~General : o(≧v≦)o~~
Mapset : o(≧v≦)o~~
Metadata : (⊙o⊙)？not sure about the metadata either.
Timing : Σ( ° △ °|||)︴many parts of the map seems offbeat. or at least not really accurate. please ask a timing expert for checking. Oh well, will try to fix that, perhaps with 1/16 beat snap divisor to get the nearest correct for now.
Audio : o(≧v≦)o~~
Background : o(≧v≦)o~~
Hitsounding : Σ( ° △ °|||)︴ if you don't use hitsound, please decrease sfx to 5% Hm... Ok|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|
In general, I will mod based on these considerations ♪(^∇^*)
( X ) I will not take this into consideration when modding
( √ ) I will take this into consideration when modding
( ? ) I might unconsciously take this into consideration when modding
Pitch Agreement / Relevancy : ( √ )
Hand Balancing : ( √ )
(Consistent) Patterning : ( √ )
Possibility of Long Notes Abuse : ( √ )
Ghost Note : ( √ )
Suggestions / Opinion only : ( √ )bam]as i've written my reason above clearly. i won't rewrite it when i mod below.
note that i take PR very seriously, especially when you don't have any strong justification not follow PR.
00:03:243 (3243|1) - 3 Done
00:03:743 (3743|3,3788|2,3834|1) - ctrl g Done
00:04:334 (4334|0) - 3
00:04:879 (4879|1,5425|2) - 1 2 Done
00:05:970 (5970|2,6016|1,6061|0) - ctrl G Done
00:07:061 (7061|1) - 1 Done
00:10:286 (10286|1,10329|2,10373|3) - drag 1x to left Done
00:10:808 (10808|2) - 4 Done
00:11:297 - use 2 or 3 note. strong chord emphasis. Done, well... Didn't notice it here
00:13:768 (13768|1) - obviously should be 4 Done, well.. The reason that I put on column 2 instead is just to prevent it look like a single stairs, for somehow reason, I feel like it is... Uncomfortable (to see, not to play) but well, changed anyways.
00:30:241 - use 2 or 3 notes, different emphasis Done
00:19:261 - until 00:31:915 - revamp based on my suggestion above. do a self-mod and check for PR Hm... Done
00:39:831 - until 01:07:708 - please use SN, there are only a few notes there, it reflects the sustained instrument better Hm... Well, might change in the future since the SN doesn't fit to me (because the sound often ends at the next note)
01:17:742 (77742|2,77845|1,77949|3,78052|0) - if you'r following that woodwind sound, then this is wrong. there is only 3 different pitch Well, I think this is ok, because the left (column 1) was normally for the kick sound.
01:17:949 - delete the SN here and drag that LN down to this time, but put it at 1 Done
01:23:225 (83225|1) - 3 Moved, normally that was intended to be a mini jack pattern but nvm.
01:41:018 - should have 3 notes just like your usual pattern for this beat Done
01:55:708 (115708|3) - 3 Done
02:11:443 - add short note to 4, because there are 2 woodwind sound here, express the other one with SN Is there 2 sound here? o.o Well, will check more at the future, will leave unchanged for now
02:12:277 - add at 4 or 1 Unchanged for now
02:13:110 - add at 3 Unchanged for now
02:14:777 - add at 4 Unchanged for now
02:16:443 - add at 1 Unchanged for now
02:18:110 - and so on, you know what i mean Unchanged for now
02:23:643 (143643|1,143850|2,144057|1,144264|0,144678|2) - very strong emphasis here, use 2 notes instead to reflect it more accurately. resting time is done above already
until 02:29:643 - I don't think 2 note sounds nice here, it will make the column more clumped here, use 2 notes consistently. after this, you use 3 notes for parts which have beat, so it flows more naturally because not a lot of emphasis added and thus the transition (from 2 notes, to 3 notes, feels more natural, compared to if you just put 1 earlier and then suddenly a lot of 3) Well, I decided not to change that because I'm trying to strictly following the rhythm in the music, with some exceptions since I can't add many notes to 4K
02:50:126 (170126|3,170229|2) - no reason to use LN here, revamp Changed to normal notes
04:23:509 (263509|1) - should be at 4, exchange them Done
04:31:784 (271784|1,272612|0) - drag 2 x to right and adjust your SN Done
it should be 4 3 2 1 because the pitch consistently declines
04:40:060 (280060|0,281302|1,281715|2) - should be 4 3 2 Done
04:43:371 (283371|1,284612|0,285026|1) - put on 323 Done
04:46:681 (286681|2,287922|1,288336|0) - 4 2 1Done
04:49:991 -04:56:612 - readjust, your PR is very random Done
04:54:957 (294957|0) - sustain it until 04:57:026 - Done
04:57:026 - add LN, still following that soprano Done
05:09:750 - again, only 1 note, i see no justification not to follow PR, revamp this whole section until 05:36:253 - Well, I think this section can ignore the PR, I think.
I'll take up on your offer to do M4M on the map that you chose.
please take note that I follow PR as well as hand balancing. (on that map as well) because i also utilise pitched hitsound when mapping.
good luck!! o(≧v≦)o~~
Excellent Beatmap!!! Nice Song!!! d(≧v≦)b~~
Good Luck for rank!! O(∩_∩)O
WILL DO THE M4M REQUEST SOON
Topic Starter
Yey! Thanks!pwhk wrote:
for M4M
| 0 - 3 |
[Marathon]
AiMod: object at 00:12:913 isn't snapped! Done
There are timing issues (as pointed out by other modders). You'd better find someone good at timing to check (I suck at timing
00:05:425 - 00:06:516 - three continuous note at 2 is no good. Move 00:06:516 (6516|2) - to 3 I guess Already done by previous mod, sry
00:08:243 - I think there is a note here (use 25% playback to check) I don't think there is.
00:26:351 - 00:27:429 - as in 00:05:425 - . Move 00:27:429 - to 3 Already done by previous mod, sry
00:30:781 - 00:31:997 - use 1,2,3 instead Already done by previous mod, sry
00:39:816 (39816|0,40299|2) - 3,0 instead for pitch Already done by previous mod, sry
00:42:782 (42782|2,42782|1) - Remove one note. No sound suggests double Already done by previous mod, sry
00:44:282 (44282|1,44782|3) - Ctrl-G Already done by previous mod, sry
00:46:782 - 00:47:782 - Ctrl-G Already done by previous mod, sry
00:51:782 - 00:52:782 - 3,2,0 Already done by previous mod, sry
01:02:782 (62782|0,62844|1,62907|2) - This seems wrong. You'd better recheck this with 25% playback. Done
01:06:594 - Add an LN around here for the SE. You may need to move around once better timing is found Hm... Will do it later
01:17:742 (77742|2,77845|1) - Ctrl-G Done
01:45:880 (105880|1) - Guitar isn't present here. Remove. Will recheck this section once I got a better timing.
01:46:708 (106708|0) - ^ Same as above
01:53:225 (113225|1) - You was using double around. Remove this so no triples. Rearranged to my style instead
01:57:776 - Missing layer guitar here I guess. Add note? Done
02:03:363 (123363|3) - Remove I guess. No guitar to layer here Will recheck after I got a better timing
02:16:443 - Add note at 0 for extra-strong sound Done
02:54:471 - Missing note Done
04:10:190 (250190|0) - Remove? There isn't like a sound here. LN-end here is enough There is a sound here but idk the name of the sound...
04:10:815 - Add note at 2 for soft violin. It'll be kinda strange to add more notes in such a calm section... '~'
04:18:453 (258453|2) - Move to 0? This section can ignore the PR, I think
04:20:120 (260120|0) - this to 1 Same as above
04:31:371 (271371|0) - Move to 2? Done
04:51:646 (291646|0,292474|3) - Ctrl-G, move 04:53:302 (293302|0) - to 3 Changed based on previous mod
05:09:771 (309771|0,310081|0,310391|0) - Different sound should have different pitch. I would use 0,1,2 here. I am not repeating myself but many places in 05:09:771 - 05:17:839 - also have this issue Hm... Will do it later... Going to fix some problem first.
05:35:064 - Add LN for SE. Again, may not be exact timing. Will add it after fix some timing problems first.
05:57:977 (357977|1,357977|3) - No jacks here. I doubt if there is any sounds here... Will recheck with the new timing
06:01:908 - Add note? It'll be harder to deal with 1/4 jacks while doing 1/8 burst
06:14:426 (374426|2) - Guitar absent. Remove. Done
06:15:253 (375253|2) - ^ Done
06:21:357 - 06:21:564 - Missing percussion Well, idk if I did it right or not.
06:24:253 - Add note Done
06:28:184 - Missing guitar layer Done
06:45:150 (405150|0,405357|0) - Remove? No doubles here? Done
Good luck!
Will do the M4M ASAP.
And will try to fix the timing section ASAP
Complex timing
How I look at it now, it seems fine
It's really hard to hear it at the beginning, as piano is rather hard to understand (timing-wise)
Sorry for not being able to help you >.<
How I look at it now, it seems fine
It's really hard to hear it at the beginning, as piano is rather hard to understand (timing-wise)
Sorry for not being able to help you >.<
Topic Starter
Hm, well.. It's okbaraatje123 wrote:
Complex timing
How I look at it now, it seems fine
It's really hard to hear it at the beginning, as piano is rather hard to understand (timing-wise)
Sorry for not being able to help you >.<
thanks anyway for reading/accepting my request
gotta find some timing modders
ask Eter-chan~ s/he knows someone who's an expert in offset.
try Harby / crack as well
try Harby / crack as well
Topic Starter
thanks for tellingschwarzvgrune wrote:
ask Eter-chan~ s/he knows someone who's an expert in offset.
try Harby / crack as well
correct title is Vanessa, without 'Alive:'. that's just how the wiki wrote it
Alive is the album name released by rayark in 2012, far before the cytus update
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/cytus ... d554811915
http://www.amazon.com/Cytus-Alive-Vario ... B0090LX444
http://vgmdb.net/album/41131
Alive is the album name released by rayark in 2012, far before the cytus update
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/cytus ... d554811915
http://www.amazon.com/Cytus-Alive-Vario ... B0090LX444
http://vgmdb.net/album/41131
Topic Starter
Thanks!Rayz141 wrote:
correct title is Vanessa, without 'Alive:'. that's just how the wiki wrote it
Alive is the album name released by rayark in 2012, far before the cytus update
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/cytus ... d554811915
http://www.amazon.com/Cytus-Alive-Vario ... B0090LX444
http://vgmdb.net/album/41131
Will update it.