16:11 SatellizerLB: hey
16:12 Arphimigon: ayo
16:12 SatellizerLB: map will be finished in a few hours
16:12 Arphimigon: awesome
16:13 SatellizerLB: aight ^^
16:13 SatellizerLB: yesterday i didnt have internet so i worked on this
16:13 SatellizerLB: gonna PM u when i finished
16:13 Arphimigon: yay
18:18 SatellizerLB: heyhey
18:18 Arphimigon: ayo
18:18 SatellizerLB: im done
18:18 Arphimigon: oh goodie
18:18 SatellizerLB: feels good and exciting at the same time
18:18 SatellizerLB: i finished a song for the first time
18:18 Arphimigon: aight ill check
18:19 Arphimigon: lolpls
18:19 Arphimigon: i updated
18:20 SatellizerLB: :/
18:20 Arphimigon: resubmit
18:20 SatellizerLB: i updated
18:20 SatellizerLB: weird...
18:21 Arphimigon: you shouldve resubmitted
18:21 Arphimigon: might have lost something
18:21 SatellizerLB: actually after i submitted the final version i deleted the folder and dl'ed from osu.ppy.sh
18:23 Arphimigon: this bpm is too low
18:23 Arphimigon: for ar10
18:23 Arphimigon: cri
18:26 SatellizerLB: hang on!
18:26 SatellizerLB: well done!
18:26 Arphimigon: rip
18:26 SatellizerLB: umm
18:26 SatellizerLB: well played
18:26 SatellizerLB: i guess?
18:26 Arphimigon: nah tht was bad
18:26 Arphimigon: feels nicer now though
18:26 SatellizerLB: I agree!
18:26 SatellizerLB:
18:26 SatellizerLB: i dont know if i should reduce OD to 7
18:26 SatellizerLB: its 7.5 now
18:27 Arphimigon: it wouldnt matter to me being a HR player
18:27 Arphimigon: OD9.8 and 10 are basically the same
18:27 SatellizerLB: ah
18:27 Arphimigon: i would go for 7.5 for now
18:27 Arphimigon: (if i mapped this i would make it OD9 gg)
18:27 SatellizerLB: lol
18:28 Arphimigon: alright since im more in the "mapping" kind of mood than modding, ill do an average mod
18:28 Arphimigon: so lets do this
18:28 Arphimigon: 00:01:000 (4,5) - Blanket better pls
18:28 SatellizerLB: im ready
18:28 SatellizerLB: blanket?
18:28 SatellizerLB: my english isnt the best
18:28 Arphimigon: move slider 5 to x:96 y:104
18:29 Arphimigon: blanket = when a slider goes around a note
18:29 SatellizerLB: ah
18:29 Arphimigon: if you miss a blanket and someone sees it, they go craazy
18:29 SatellizerLB: did it
18:29 Arphimigon: and i dont miss any k.
18:29 SatellizerLB: lol
18:29 SatellizerLB: i think i missed a lot...
18:30 Arphimigon: 00:01:200 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - I know you did this on purpose but dang it plays weird
18:30 Arphimigon: trust me i find errors with even greater mappers maps pls
18:30 Arphimigon: *rip nazimod on Irreversibles map*
18:30 SatellizerLB: i do trust you
18:30 Arphimigon: 00:03:800 (3) - Should be a 180 degree flip of last slider
18:30 SatellizerLB: you seem like a good modder
18:30 SatellizerLB: and im an ameteur mapper so
18:31 SatellizerLB: ye
18:31 Arphimigon: yeee
18:31 Arphimigon: to do the flip just copy paste slider 2 and ctrl+> twice
18:31 SatellizerLB: GO
18:31 SatellizerLB: GOD
18:31 SatellizerLB: DAMMIT
18:31 SatellizerLB: I DIDNT KNOW THIS
18:31 Arphimigon: uh
18:31 Arphimigon: please
18:31 SatellizerLB: AND I TRIED TI MAKE MANY FLIPPED SLIDERS
18:31 SatellizerLB: HOLY
18:31 Arphimigon: ive had 10 people today spam me today with caps
18:31 Arphimigon: because i told them super techniques
18:32 SatellizerLB: and i was wondering how people were able to make flipped sliders easily...
18:32 Arphimigon: please, let us go along~
18:32 SatellizerLB: aight aight
18:32 Arphimigon: if you want more fine rotations
18:32 Arphimigon: use ctrl+shift+r
18:32 SatellizerLB: oh
18:32 Arphimigon: you'll find yourself using that often once you start
18:32 SatellizerLB: danh
18:32 SatellizerLB: i feel like retarded
18:33 Arphimigon: dont
18:33 Arphimigon: i do this to everyone lol
18:33 Arphimigon: 00:09:600 (1,2) - fix blanket
18:33 SatellizerLB: u dont how much i spent on sliders to make them look alike
18:33 Arphimigon: we all been there
18:33 SatellizerLB: wait
18:33 Arphimigon: 00:09:600 (1) - x:361 y:185
18:34 Arphimigon: 00:10:600 (4,5) - Eww pixel overlap
18:35 Arphimigon: you still here?
18:35 SatellizerLB: caught up
18:36 SatellizerLB: go on
18:36 Arphimigon: oh oki
18:36 Arphimigon: 00:11:200 (6,8) - Another pixel overlap
18:36 Arphimigon: 00:12:600 (11) - x:145 y:58
18:37 Arphimigon: then make 00:12:400 (10) - equidistant to previous and next note
18:37 Arphimigon: 00:12:800 (1) - should overlap 00:11:800 (8) - directly
18:37 SatellizerLB: equidistant=equal distance?
18:37 Arphimigon: yeah
18:37 Arphimigon: 00:13:600 (4,5) - End of slider and note arent stacked right
18:38 Arphimigon: 00:17:200 (5,6) - Make curve wider to blanket note 6
18:38 Arphimigon: 00:17:800 (7,8) - Same here
18:38 SatellizerLB: wait
18:38 SatellizerLB: 00:13:600 (4,5) -
18:38 SatellizerLB: they overlap correctly
18:38 Arphimigon: they are one pixel off
18:39 Arphimigon: (im a nazimodder k)
18:39 SatellizerLB:
18:39 SatellizerLB: i mean
18:39 SatellizerLB: when u said like
18:39 SatellizerLB: x:145 y:355
18:39 Arphimigon: mhm
18:39 SatellizerLB: i was able to make them something like x:144 y:352
18:39 SatellizerLB: cause of grid snapping i think
18:39 SatellizerLB: should i turn it off?
18:39 Arphimigon: turn it off for my modding
18:40 Arphimigon: turn it back on for mapping if you like
18:40 SatellizerLB: aight
18:40 Arphimigon: there is an easier way
18:40 Arphimigon: click the co-ordinates at top-right when note is selected
18:40 SatellizerLB: ...
18:40 SatellizerLB: oh
18:40 Arphimigon: *awaits caps spam*
18:41 Arphimigon: 00:14:800 (8,9) - Too much spacing from last slider, this is a calm section
18:41 SatellizerLB: i wont...
18:41 Arphimigon: goodie
18:41 SatellizerLB: i got used to it...
18:41 Arphimigon: after this mod i'll hit you up with some easy but effective mapping techniques (unless we need them during the mod)
18:42 Arphimigon: which i like to call the "God Tools"
18:42 SatellizerLB: aight
18:42 Arphimigon: 00:21:400 (8) - Should be 1.2 spacing from last note
18:42 SatellizerLB: am i goin to be a god
18:42 Arphimigon: since all the notes are 1.2 spacing in this area
18:42 SatellizerLB: feels exciting!
18:42 Arphimigon: trust me
18:42 Arphimigon: youll slam your face
18:43 Arphimigon: (i find all my techniques myself doe, so i can slap myself)
18:43 SatellizerLB: where were u when i started this...
18:43 Arphimigon: thats what you can say about all modder
18:43 Arphimigon: modders*
18:43 Arphimigon: 00:22:200 (10) - Should continue with the curve of slider 9
18:43 Arphimigon: instead of random placing
18:44 SatellizerLB: aight
18:45 Arphimigon: wow
18:45 Arphimigon: 00:32:000 (1,2) - mfw these are perfectly flipped
18:45 Arphimigon: gg
18:45 Arphimigon: ha okay time to explain a flip tool
18:46 SatellizerLB: that
18:46 SatellizerLB: was
18:46 SatellizerLB: easy tho
18:46 Arphimigon: 00:37:600 (3) - CTRL-J for vertical flip
18:46 Arphimigon: so you can position note 4
18:46 SatellizerLB: u realize that
18:46 SatellizerLB: i counted squares
18:46 Arphimigon: i can see
18:46 SatellizerLB: in grid level 3
18:46 Arphimigon: but its wrong!
18:46 SatellizerLB: yea...
18:46 Arphimigon: thats why Im here k.
18:47 Arphimigon: lets do this
18:47 Arphimigon: the flip!
18:47 SatellizerLB: did it!
18:47 Arphimigon: yay
18:47 Arphimigon: looks better?
18:47 SatellizerLB: i think
18:47 SatellizerLB: yea
18:47 Arphimigon: 00:38:600 (2) - Move first red point one small grid pixel to the left
18:49 Arphimigon: (im finding a good way to explain this)
18:49 SatellizerLB:
18:49 Arphimigon: 00:39:200 (4,5,6,7) - Curve could be improved
18:49 Arphimigon: time to tell about the godliest tool of them all
18:49 Arphimigon: the one everyone slams their face on
18:49 Arphimigon: CONVERT SLIDERS!
18:49 SatellizerLB: im ready
18:49 SatellizerLB: wait what
18:49 Arphimigon: CONVERT
18:49 Arphimigon: SLIDERS!
18:50 SatellizerLB: umm
18:50 Arphimigon: basically
18:50 Arphimigon: make a slider
18:50 Arphimigon: compose -> convert slider to stream
18:50 Arphimigon: BAM PERFECT STREAM
18:50 Arphimigon: but the thing is
18:50 Arphimigon: you can do it for 1/2 notes too
18:50 SatellizerLB: HOLY
18:50 SatellizerLB: WHAT
18:50 Arphimigon: PERFET SPACING
18:50 Arphimigon: YEAH BBY
18:50 Arphimigon: perfect*
18:50 SatellizerLB: OHMY
18:50 Arphimigon: BAM *remap pls*
18:50 SatellizerLB: considering...
18:51 Arphimigon: that is the best tool of them all k
18:51 Arphimigon: so yeah improve 00:39:200 (4,5,6,7) - curve with a slider and convert to 1/2
18:52 SatellizerLB: that will be hard
18:52 Arphimigon: leave it then
18:52 Arphimigon: do it later
18:52 SatellizerLB: yep
18:52 SatellizerLB: i need to use SV there to make a slider that long
18:52 Arphimigon: no you dont
18:52 Arphimigon: just make a long length slider
18:52 Arphimigon: trust me on dis l
18:52 Arphimigon: k*
18:53 Arphimigon: 00:41:200 (4) - move to x:357 y:299 so the followpoint goes over the center of the end of slider 2
18:53 Arphimigon: (then raise the next sliders for DS)
18:53 Arphimigon: you can copy-paste 00:42:400 (3,4) - for the next two notes lmao
18:54 SatellizerLB: yeah
18:54 SatellizerLB: im retarded
18:54 SatellizerLB: i actually knew this
18:54 Arphimigon: 00:43:600 (2) - could be a rotation of the last slider
18:54 SatellizerLB: and didnt use it
18:55 Arphimigon: 00:45:600 (4) - Doesnt stack the end of combo 2 slider correct
18:55 SatellizerLB: seems like a rotation but
18:55 SatellizerLB: as u know it
18:55 SatellizerLB: i did it with counting...
18:55 Arphimigon: fix it!
18:56 SatellizerLB: 00:45:600 (4) -
18:56 SatellizerLB: x:90 y:152
18:56 SatellizerLB: right?
18:56 Arphimigon: 00:48:000 (1,2,3) - triangle could be improved, lemme grab the co-ordinates
18:56 Arphimigon: yeah
18:57 Arphimigon: thats right
18:57 Arphimigon: 00:48:400 (3) - x:187 y:326 for perfect triangle
18:57 Arphimigon: the next notes will need fixing a bit after though
18:58 SatellizerLB: instead
18:58 SatellizerLB: fix 00:48:000 (1) - ?
18:58 Arphimigon: oh right
18:58 Arphimigon: dammmmn
18:58 Arphimigon: i feel dumb sometimes
18:58 SatellizerLB: yea u see
18:58 SatellizerLB: im smart
18:58 Arphimigon: MOD MY MODS
18:58 SatellizerLB: B)
18:59 SatellizerLB: modception...
18:59 Arphimigon: 00:48:400 (3) - x:346 y:301
18:59 Arphimigon: try that
18:59 Arphimigon: i mean
18:59 Arphimigon: 00:48:000 (1) - *
19:00 SatellizerLB: seemed a bit weird
19:00 Arphimigon: my one?
19:00 Arphimigon: well damn ill come back to it maybe
19:00 SatellizerLB: yep
19:00 SatellizerLB: x:352 y:316
19:00 SatellizerLB: seemed kinda better
19:01 Arphimigon: that is
19:01 Arphimigon: wait for note 1?
19:01 Arphimigon: thats well out wat
19:01 SatellizerLB: ah
19:01 SatellizerLB: wait
19:01 Arphimigon: nah nah nonono
19:01 Arphimigon: use mine lol
19:01 SatellizerLB: yea i got what u tried to do
19:01 SatellizerLB: just now
19:02 Arphimigon: 00:50:400 (4) - x:106 y:138 for a straight line with last slider
19:02 SatellizerLB: 346-301 better
19:02 Arphimigon: do what you think
19:02 SatellizerLB: did it
19:03 SatellizerLB: i thought u were trying to make 1-3 in the same line
19:03 Arphimigon: 00:50:800 (6) - all the other notes in this are 0.45 sv apart, this is badly placed
19:03 Arphimigon: lol no
19:03 SatellizerLB: but u were trying to make a good triangle with 1-2-3
19:03 Arphimigon: ^^
19:03 SatellizerLB: so yea yours was better
19:03 Arphimigon: aight two more things said
19:03 Arphimigon: (rip 50 seconds in)
19:04 SatellizerLB: u mean
19:04 SatellizerLB: 00:50:800 (6) -
19:04 SatellizerLB: badly placed in the stream?
19:04 SatellizerLB: or according to previous circle?
19:04 Arphimigon: as in it should be 0.45DS to the next note
19:04 Arphimigon: x:312 y:264
19:05 Arphimigon: 00:55:400 (6) - middle point isnt directly half way in slider
19:05 Arphimigon: 00:57:800 (2,3,4,5,1) - Omg no change please
19:05 Arphimigon: 01:01:600 (4,6) - Pixel overlaps
19:06 Arphimigon: 01:08:400 (3,4) - ^
19:06 Arphimigon: 01:12:200 (6) - Should be in the middle of note 4 and 3
19:06 Arphimigon: (equidistant*)
19:06 Arphimigon: some of these sliders...
19:06 Arphimigon: could you be more creative with all these sliders?
19:07 Arphimigon: 01:25:600 (6,7) - Pixel overlaps
19:07 Arphimigon: 01:31:400 (1) - Should point directly towards next note
19:07 SatellizerLB: i tried make them all similar in a way
19:07 SatellizerLB: tried to*
19:07 SatellizerLB: 01:12:200 (6) -
19:07 SatellizerLB: x:81 y:53 seems good
19:08 SatellizerLB: btw is there a tool for
19:08 SatellizerLB: equidistancing?
19:08 Arphimigon: not really
19:08 Arphimigon: most is by eye or experienced techniques which would take ages to explain
19:08 Arphimigon: you gotta learn those yourself really
19:08 SatellizerLB: all right
19:08 Arphimigon: (like how i do triangles)
19:09 Arphimigon: 01:38:400 (3,4,5,6,7) - not all equidistant. Make a slider and convert it pls
19:09 Arphimigon: 01:39:700 (2,3,4,5) - and ehre
19:09 Arphimigon: and on lots of streams
19:09 SatellizerLB: all right
19:09 Arphimigon: also as a general rule, 1/4 reverse sliders look bad when curved
19:10 Arphimigon: 01:33:200 (2) - here for instance
19:10 Arphimigon: 01:43:800 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - Difficulty spike imo
19:10 Arphimigon: 01:44:800 (5) - Rip curves
19:10 Arphimigon: 01:48:200 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Badly spaced
19:11 Arphimigon: 01:56:600 (7,8,1) - Unneccesary pixel overlaps
19:11 SatellizerLB: seems like i need to fix all of the streams
19:11 Arphimigon: 01:59:400 (7,8,9,10,11) - These however are fine
19:11 Arphimigon: not all
19:11 Arphimigon: some are fine
19:11 Arphimigon: 02:01:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is fine for instance
19:12 Arphimigon: 02:04:800 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Difficulty spike (even though i never missed once)
19:12 Arphimigon: 02:07:200 (4) - New combo pls
19:12 Arphimigon: ill skip the slow part since thats just
19:12 Arphimigon: slow
19:12 Arphimigon: ACTUALLY
19:12 Arphimigon: NO
19:12 Arphimigon: GOD TOOLS
19:13 Arphimigon: 02:28:800 (4,5,6,7,8) - use "create polygon circles" to make a good star here
19:13 Arphimigon: Thats the second best tool
19:16 SatellizerLB: ummm
19:17 Arphimigon: boo
19:17 SatellizerLB: im at the dorms and
19:17 SatellizerLB: internet isnt stable
19:17 SatellizerLB: apparently
19:17 SatellizerLB: using my phone's network now
19:17 SatellizerLB: we can continue ^^
19:17 Arphimigon: so you lost all the mods?
19:17 SatellizerLB: nah
19:17 SatellizerLB: i saved the beatmap but
19:17 Arphimigon: buuuuuut?
19:17 SatellizerLB: the last thing i saw was that diff spike
19:17 SatellizerLB: with triangles
19:18 SatellizerLB: all the changes i did arent lost
19:18 Arphimigon: 02:07:200 (4) - New combo pls
19:18 SatellizerLB: ^^
19:18 SatellizerLB: oh and
19:18 SatellizerLB: that diff spike is intended
19:18 SatellizerLB: does it too hard?
19:18 Arphimigon: k
19:18 SatellizerLB: is*
19:18 Arphimigon: i never missed on it once
19:18 Arphimigon: but its
19:18 Arphimigon: too hard
19:18 Arphimigon: 02:28:800 (4,5,6,7,8) - GOD TOOLS
19:19 Arphimigon: "create polygon circles"
19:19 SatellizerLB: how
19:19 SatellizerLB: with reversing?
19:19 Arphimigon: nonono
19:19 Arphimigon: compose -> create polygon circles
19:19 Arphimigon: that and convert sliders
19:19 SatellizerLB: OH
19:19 Arphimigon: are the two best
19:19 SatellizerLB: HOLY
19:19 Arphimigon: god tools
19:19 SatellizerLB: WHAT
19:19 Arphimigon: yup
19:19 Arphimigon: mind fucked
19:20 SatellizerLB: HOLY
19:20 Arphimigon: rip another caps
19:20 Arphimigon: those are your two MAIN god tools
19:20 Arphimigon: there are others that are damn useful too
19:21 Arphimigon: 02:38:800 (3) - raise to x:200 y:196 for line
19:21 SatellizerLB: wait
19:21 SatellizerLB: even with 2.0DS these circles are closer
19:21 SatellizerLB: then what ive made
19:21 Arphimigon: haha
19:22 Arphimigon: thats where the NEXT god tool comes in
19:22 Arphimigon: Ctrl+shift+s
19:22 Arphimigon: (my 4th favourite)
19:22 Arphimigon: SO MANY TOOLS
19:22 SatellizerLB: so little time...
19:22 Arphimigon: create polygon circles
19:23 Arphimigon: slider convert
19:23 Arphimigon: rotate shape
19:23 Arphimigon: space notes
19:23 SatellizerLB: seems like i also need to learn
19:23 SatellizerLB: how to use these tools
19:24 Arphimigon: ^
19:24 Arphimigon: its HOW you use them that can make a map good, or great
19:24 Arphimigon: 02:40:000 (1,2) - Overlaps badly with 02:39:600 (7) -
19:24 Arphimigon: 02:41:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - GOD TOOLS
19:24 Arphimigon: k
19:25 Arphimigon: counting squares is gone!
19:25 Arphimigon: 02:54:400 (1,2,3,4,5) - Star
19:26 Arphimigon: 03:01:200 (3) - move to x:439 y:64 for triangle
19:26 SatellizerLB: how can i make a star shape
19:27 SatellizerLB: with GOD TOOLS?
19:27 Arphimigon: 03:04:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Nice, you could still spice it up more
19:27 Arphimigon: lol
19:27 Arphimigon: "Create Polygon Circles"
19:27 Arphimigon: "5 points"
19:27 Arphimigon: it may need rotation and spacing after
19:27 SatellizerLB: doesnt it make a pentagen?
19:28 SatellizerLB: wait i need to try it
19:28 Arphimigon: yeah it does
19:28 Arphimigon: you can then ctrl-g notes aroun-
19:28 Arphimigon: YEAH GOD TOOL CTRL-G
19:28 SatellizerLB: aaaahhh
19:28 SatellizerLB: i get it
19:28 Arphimigon: yus ctrl-g is good tool 5 gg
19:28 SatellizerLB: i need to change like first circle with 2nd one
19:28 Arphimigon: 03:06:400 (3,4) - pixel overlap
19:29 Arphimigon: yeah making stars is second nature
19:29 Arphimigon: 03:08:800 (1) - Ctrl-J this instead of making 03:09:600 (5) -
19:30 Arphimigon: 03:20:800 (5,6,7,8,1) - k
19:30 Arphimigon: 03:21:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - so unneat
19:30 Arphimigon: 03:26:600 (5,8) - Stack correct pls
19:31 Arphimigon: 03:42:600 (5) - move to x:65 y:127 for stack
19:31 Arphimigon: actually there are loads of 1pixel off stacks
19:31 Arphimigon: rip grid size small
19:32 Arphimigon: maybe ill check them when the map gets more non-nazi mods
19:32 Arphimigon: 03:51:400 (3,4,1) - Position of 4 could be improved for neatness
19:32 SatellizerLB: moved 03:43:200 (8) - instead
19:32 Arphimigon: x:254 y:282 works
19:32 Arphimigon: oh oki
19:33 Arphimigon: 03:50:800 (2) - Would make it more up-left for flow
19:33 Arphimigon: notes can be heard 03:55:900 - and 03:56:000 - imo, your choice to add or not
19:33 Arphimigon: 03:57:800 (3,1) - Eww overlap
19:34 Arphimigon: 04:02:600 (3,4,5) - Not equidistant
19:34 Arphimigon: 04:07:800 (5) - move to x:175 y:199 for line with slider
19:35 Arphimigon: 04:08:700 - and 04:08:800 - notes, again opinion
19:35 Arphimigon: 04:09:600 (1,2) - eww overlap
19:35 Arphimigon: DONE