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kors k - Insane Techniques [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
DakeDekaane
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 19 de julio de 2014 at 03:16:34 p.m.

Artist: kors k
Title: Insane Techniques
Source: beatmania IIDX
Tags: Bemani SPADA Konami Lost_The_Lights
BPM: 146
Filesize: 3315kb
Play Time: 02:04
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.15 stars, 251 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.62 stars, 139 notes)
  3. LTL's Ura Oni (4.05 stars, 729 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2.95 stars, 418 notes)
  5. Oni (3.65 stars, 593 notes)
Download: kors k - Insane Techniques
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Dake can also make somewhat challenging stuff in Taiko, he just needs the appropiate song :D

Estimated Taiko difficulty:
4★Kantan | 6★Futsuu | 8★Muzukashii | 9★Oni | 10★Ura Oni
Starring Lost The Lights with an Ura Oni.

24th mapset, have fun :D

People who helped here
MMzz
Dainesl
CoroQuetz
JUDYDANNY
Genocide
snowball112

History:
07/05/14: Submitted
Lost The Lights
First and star \:D/ Lets go for rank!
captin1
oh, nice hah
Lust
what the * was that
MMzz
Overall:
Letterbox toggle isn't consistent in all diffs. Either turn them all on or off.

Inner Oni:
01:20:085 - add a d or k here? You don't have to stop the notes here and because you did the rhythm feels really choppy and uncomfortable to play.
02:00:154 - add a k here. I know you are trying to follow the melody synth like the beginning. But here in the music the drum kicks are really overpowering it, so making just a long stream would actually be much more comfortable to play and understand wit the song.
02:01:797 - same as above but use a d.

Oni:
01:17:825 (1) - This stream really confused me because it didn't feel like it matched the stream in the music. I would try something like; Much more comfortable and has distinct color changes for the changes in the music's stream. Although it does take away the challenge your current stream has, so you can decide what to do here.

Kantan:
HP/OD 4. There really isn't much reason to go under 4 when making easier difficulties.

Other diffs look great to me! You got really good at mapping since the last map I modded of yours. Good luck!
Lost The Lights

MMzz wrote:

Inner Oni:
01:20:085 - add a d or k here? You don't have to stop the notes here and because you did the rhythm feels really choppy and uncomfortable to play. Sure, added k.
02:00:154 - add a k here. I know you are trying to follow the melody synth like the beginning. But here in the music the drum kicks are really overpowering it, so making just a long stream would actually be much more comfortable to play and understand wit the song.
02:01:797 - same as above but use a d. In both added d.

Other diffs look great to me! You got really good at mapping since the last map I modded of yours. Good luck!
Thanks for the Mod!

Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

MMzz wrote:

Overall:
Letterbox toggle isn't consistent in all diffs. Either turn them all on or off. /*Whoops, fixed

Oni:
01:17:825 (1) - This stream really confused me because it didn't feel like it matched the stream in the music. I would try something like; Much more comfortable and has distinct color changes for the changes in the music's stream. Although it does take away the challenge your current stream has, so you can decide what to do here. /*Tried something more regularish dkdkdkkkdkdkdkkkd.

Kantan:
HP/OD 4. There really isn't much reason to go under 4 when making easier difficulties. /*Okay :c

Other diffs look great to me! You got really good at mapping since the last map I modded of yours. Good luck! /*Yay, thanks :D
Thanks for the mod MMzz :3
Dainesl
what the -taiko- was that

modding Kantan to Oni diffs :3 but not the Inner Oni ;w;

General
02:02:208 - end kiai time here on all diffs as the "chorus" bit stops here ;w;

Kantan
00:26:866 (20) - Add a finisher here? It's consistent with 00:33:441 (32) - which sounds exactly the same
00:36:729 (1,1) - this is weird 'cause normally I'd be like "you baka why have you done this" but sliders don't need to be hit...I'd still say that they should count as things that are meant to be played so make the spinner 1/2 beat shorter to give beginners time to react to the slider ahead ;w;
00:40:428 (3) - Maybe add a finisher here as the cymbal is playing here?
00:46:181 (13,14,15) - whyyyyy are there 1/2s in a Kantan ;w; it's a standard to have 1/1s or above only unless BPM is low (this is medium-ish?)
00:47:003 (16) - if suggestion at 00:40:428 is applied, apply it here too
01:17:825 (1,1) - same as 00:36:729 (you baka ;w;)
01:22:345 (6,7,8) - kdd as it sounds the exact same as the previous pattern (which was kdd)
01:29:332 (1,1) - just make these into one spinner, it plays a lot better 'cause build-up is shown better ;_;
01:35:907 (1) - add finisher here; sounds the same as 01:42:482 (13) - which has a finisher

Futsuu
00:26:866 (37) - same suggestion as in Kantan lol
00:40:428 (3) - ^
01:16:181 (1,1) - again, change these into one spinner rather than two; for better effect
01:29:332 (1,1) - ^
01:35:907 (1) - same suggestion as Kantan

Muzukashii
01:16:181 (1,1) - why is there a spinner and then a slider; this doesn't really make sense within the music
also why are there so many doublets in the Kiais ;_;
other than that I literally have nothing to say wth me ;w;

Oni
01:17:825 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - this is quite a long stream that could probably be simplified; it doesn't flow really well atm imo ;w;
01:30:975 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - also this build-up is a bit bland due to it being all dons, maybe make it more complex?
01:39:708 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36) - same as 01:17:825
tell me how to mod agh I can't find much >_<

good luck :3/
Lost The Lights
Dake, cuando actualizes acordate de añadirme a los tags, que me olvidé de decirte xD
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

Dainesl wrote:

what the -taiko- was that

modding Kantan to Oni diffs :3 but not the Inner Oni ;w;

General
02:02:208 - end kiai time here on all diffs as the "chorus" bit stops here ;w; /*Okay

Kantan
00:26:866 (20) - Add a finisher here? It's consistent with 00:33:441 (32) - which sounds exactly the same /*Okay
00:36:729 (1,1) - this is weird 'cause normally I'd be like "you baka why have you done this" but sliders don't need to be hit...I'd still say that they should count as things that are meant to be played so make the spinner 1/2 beat shorter to give beginners time to react to the slider ahead ;w; /*Okay
00:40:428 (3) - Maybe add a finisher here as the cymbal is playing here? /*As I applied to previous note, here too.
00:46:181 (13,14,15) - whyyyyy are there 1/2s in a Kantan ;w; it's a standard to have 1/1s or above only unless BPM is low (this is medium-ish?) /*I really think this one fits due the heavy beats there, I may change if more people complains.
00:47:003 (16) - if suggestion at 00:40:428 is applied, apply it here too /*Okay
01:17:825 (1,1) - same as 00:36:729 (you baka ;w;) /*Okay
01:22:345 (6,7,8) - kdd as it sounds the exact same as the previous pattern (which was kdd) /*Okay
01:29:332 (1,1) - just make these into one spinner, it plays a lot better 'cause build-up is shown better ;_; /*Okay
01:35:907 (1) - add finisher here; sounds the same as 01:42:482 (13) - which has a finisher /*Okay


Futsuu
00:26:866 (37) - same suggestion as in Kantan lol /*Okay
00:40:428 (3) - ^ /*Okay
01:16:181 (1,1) - again, change these into one spinner rather than two; for better effect /*Did something like Kantan here
01:29:332 (1,1) - ^ /*Okay here
01:35:907 (1) - same suggestion as Kantan /*Okay

Muzukashii
01:16:181 (1,1) - why is there a spinner and then a slider; this doesn't really make sense within the music /*Spinner for the increasing sound and the slider for the stream, change tho, I may come back for the slider.
also why are there so many doublets in the Kiais ;_; /*Don't blame me, song is complex ;_; (also boss Muzukashii intended). Did some stuff tho.
other than that I literally have nothing to say wth me ;w;

Oni
01:17:825 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - this is quite a long stream that could probably be simplified; it doesn't flow really well atm imo ;w; /*For me being a noobish player I can hit this properly and it plays nice for me, so I'll be keeping it, I'll consider it tho, an alternative is ready just in case.
01:30:975 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - also this build-up is a bit bland due to it being all dons, maybe make it more complex? /*Beats are pretty much similar, so I'm keeping this.
01:39:708 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36) - same as 01:17:825 /*Deleted (30)
tell me how to mod agh I can't find much >_<

good luck :3/
Thanks a lot for the mod. Fixed almost everything lol
Added Lost the Lights in tags, whoops.
Coro
Taiko mod~
All are suggestion unless in red.

[Kantan]
00:24:400 (17,18,19) - maybe change to k k d? the pitch of the beats follow this better

[Futsuu]
00:24:400 (34,35,36) - same as kantan
00:35:907 (67,68,69) - change back to ddk? since there's no reason in the music calling for a different pattern from the first one

[Muzukashii]
no problems~ very well mapped~

[Oni]
it's a huge jump in difficulty up from Muzukashii o_o
it's otherwise well-mapped but you might want to consider toning down the difficulty or inserting a more reasonable Oni in-between

[LTL's Ura Oni]
very nice~

sorry I can't find much, it's pretty good~
good luck with rank~
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane
Everything fixed and reduced a bit the difficulty in Oni, it's around 20 notes less dense www
Thanks for the mod!

I'll update when BSS stops being a dick. Updated.
JUDYDANNY
Hello~ :3 and I'm sorry to very late :( :(
Here's a Taiko Mod via My Taiko Moding Queue

My mod is for suggetions. if you dont like, ignore please.
~Taiko~
d is Red Note.
k is Blue Note.
and, D ,K is finisher .. .
“+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?
Big text is strong suggestion.

DakeDekaane
[Kantan]
  1. 00:21:112 (11,12) – delete , either one note?
  2. 01:48:236 (23) - k? previous phrase 01:45:359 (18,19,20) - all don sounds. I prefer to make all kat sounds.
  3. 02:01:386 (46,47,48) – k,kk > kk,k? looks better for spinner.
  4. 01:37:551 (4) - , 01:40:838 (10) - , 01:42:071 (12) - … uum,, don?
  5. and , 01:40:428 (9,11) - , 01:44:537 (17,18) - swap? looks little hard for me..
[Futsuu]
  1. 01:16:181 – add k lol Kantan is put here.
  2. 01:26:455 (22,23) - how about swap? understand to d k d k , d d k d, rhythm. But I think too , that 01:26:044 (21,22,23,24,25) - make same colors as 01:24:400 (16,17,18,19,20) – . It sounds better, imo.
  3. 01:54:811 – add note , here?
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:19:058 (23) - ~~ 00:20:291 - how about?
    http://puu.sh/9ijjH/53ed01397d.jpg or k , d , k , k , ddk , d ?
  2. 00:36:318 (99) - k? sounds better.
  3. 00:46:181 (31,32) - k?
  4. 01:47:825 (64) - k? I prefer to emphasize 01:48:236 (66) – don sound.
  5. 01:53:167 (93,94,95,96) – ddd,k?
  6. and, 01:53:784 (97) – add k?
[Oni]
  1. 00:20:188 (46) -  delete?
  2. 00:23:989 (68) - don? and, 00:23:784 – add k?
  3. 00:25:633 (75) - k sounds and plays better.
  4. 01:47:825 (86) – K? same as Muzu.
  5. 01:57:791 (21) - k? , high back vocal

Lost The Lights
[Ura Oni]
  1. uum…notes that sounds follow are very vagueness.
  2. 00:11:352 (95) – add d,
  3. 00:11:660 (98) - ^
  4. 00:13:510 (1) – delete? louder sounds are 00:13:304 (1) – and 00:12:893 (1) - , not 00:13:510 (1) -.
  5. 00:14:640 (7) – add k?
  6. 00:16:386 (19,20,21,22) – dk,dk > ddkdk? Or dkkdk?
  7. 00:17:928 (30) - addk?
  8. 00:18:544 (35) – delete?
  9. 00:19:263 (39) - k? back pitch is high.
  10. 00:19:880 (43) – add d?
  11. 00:21:421 (54) – (d) or, 00:21:832 (57) – (k) add note?
  12. 00:24:400 (76) – d same bass sounds 00:24:811 (77) - .
  13. 00:25:633 (81) - k? high pitch sounds.
  14. 00:38:784 (155) – add finisher don? sounds fine, imo.
  15. 00:49:880 (223) – finisher?
  16. 00:51:729 (228,230) –k, why these notes only don?
  17. 01:06:318 (287) – finisher sounds better on this density. Sounds cymbals.
  18. 01:29:126 (421) – add k? percussion sounds.
  19. and, 01:29:229 (422) - ^ , 01:29:332 (423) - d?
  20. 01:40:838 (475,476,477,478) – k,kd,kd >> kd dk k ? sounds better imo. this suggestion is for make a variation.
  21. and , 01:41:969 (483) - move to 01:41:558 (480) - ?
  22. 01:46:489 (513) – add k?
  23. 01:47:208 (519) - k?
  24. 01:58:099 (584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591) – dkdkddkk >>(dkdk),(dk), sounds better. stream weird for me. (starts early, I guess.)
  25. 02:00:154 (602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609) – ddkkddkk > ddddkkkk sounds better. 02:00:564 (606) - ~~~ kat sounds fine, drums stopped this timing.
  26. uum, needs more modder, I guess.
good mapset~ :D I thank you for reading it through ;)
Good Luck! :D
Lost The Lights

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello~ :3 and I'm sorry to very late :( :(
Here's a Taiko Mod via My Taiko Moding Queue

My mod is for suggetions. if you dont like, ignore please.
~Taiko~
d is Red Note.
k is Blue Note.
and, D ,K is finisher .. .
“+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?
Big text is strong suggestion.


Lost The Lights
[Ura Oni]
  1. uum…notes that sounds follow are very vagueness.
  2. 00:11:352 (95) – add d,
  3. 00:11:660 (98) - ^ Sure, both added.
  4. 00:13:510 (1) – delete? louder sounds are 00:13:304 (1) – and 00:12:893 (1) - , not 00:13:510 (1) -. I'll let it for now, i hear sound there.
  5. 00:14:640 (7) – add k? Added.
  6. 00:16:386 (19,20,21,22) – dk,dk > ddkdk? Or dkkdk? Changed to dkkdk.
  7. 00:17:928 (30) - addk? Yep, added too.
  8. 00:18:544 (35) – delete? I like how it sounds, i know why you tell me to delete, but i'll keep it.
  9. 00:19:263 (39) - k? back pitch is high. Yep, changed.
  10. 00:19:880 (43) – add d? Sure.
  11. 00:21:421 (54) – (d) or, 00:21:832 (57) – (k) add note? Added k at 00:21:832 -
  12. 00:24:400 (76) – d same bass sounds 00:24:811 (77) - . Wow, i didn't noticed it, fixed.
  13. 00:25:633 (81) - k? high pitch sounds. Changed.
  14. 00:38:784 (155) – add finisher don? sounds fine, imo. Intentional space, i'll leave it as it is.
  15. 00:49:880 (223) – finisher? Added.
  16. 00:51:729 (228,230) –k, why these notes only don? Didn't noticed the music when mapping, fixed.
  17. 01:06:318 (287) – finisher sounds better on this density. Sounds cymbals. Whooops, added.
  18. 01:29:126 (421) – add k? percussion sounds. Sure.
  19. and, 01:29:229 (422) - ^ , 01:29:332 (423) - d? Added d on 01:29:229 - but keep the k on 01:29:332 -
  20. 01:40:838 (475,476,477,478) – k,kd,kd >> kd dk k ? sounds better imo. this suggestion is for make a variation. Added for variation hue.
  21. and , 01:41:969 (483) - move to 01:41:558 (480) - ? Did it and added some other things.
  22. 01:46:489 (513) – add k? Sure.
  23. 01:47:208 (519) - k? Was going to do that ha, changed.
  24. 01:58:099 (584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591) – dkdkddkk >>(dkdk),(dk), sounds better. stream weird for me. (starts early, I guess.)
  25. 02:00:154 (602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609) – ddkkddkk > ddddkkkk sounds better. 02:00:564 (606) - ~~~ kat sounds fine, drums stopped this timing. I'll keep this stream, its fine for now. If more people tells me to change it, i'll do it.
  26. uum, needs more modder, I guess.
That’s all! I thank you for reading it through ;)
Good Luck! :D
Thanks for modding!

Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello~ :3 and I'm sorry to very late :( :(
Here's a Taiko Mod via My Taiko Moding Queue

My mod is for suggetions. if you dont like, ignore please.
~Taiko~
d is Red Note.
k is Blue Note.
and, D ,K is finisher .. .
“+ ?” is I like pattern (※example→ add? , remove?
Big text is strong suggestion.

DakeDekaane
[Kantan]
  1. 00:21:112 (11,12) – delete , either one note? /*Deleted (12)
  2. 01:48:236 (23) - k? previous phrase 01:45:359 (18,19,20) - all don sounds. I prefer to make all kat sounds./*using d k fits better with the high pitchy sound.
  3. 02:01:386 (46,47,48) – k,kk > kk,k? looks better for spinner. /*Decided to remove the note in 1/2 instead
  4. 01:37:551 (4) - , 01:40:838 (10) - , 01:42:071 (12) - … uum,, don? /*Changed (4) and (12)
  5. and , 01:40:428 (9,11) - , 01:44:537 (17,18) - swap? looks little hard for me.. /*Changed (17,18), keeping (9,11) as it fits better with the music

[Futsuu]
  1. 01:16:181 – add k lol Kantan is put here. /*Oops, forgot to put this, done
  2. 01:26:455 (22,23) - how about swap? understand to d k d k , d d k d, rhythm. But I think too , that 01:26:044 (21,22,23,24,25) - make same colors as 01:24:400 (16,17,18,19,20) – . It sounds better, imo. /*Changed to dons, also the previous part.
  3. 01:54:811 – add note , here? /*I'd want to leave a pause there.

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:19:058 (23) - ~~ 00:20:291 - how about? /*Used k 0 d k ddk d
    http://puu.sh/9ijjH/53ed01397d.jpg or k , d , k , k , ddk , d ?
  2. 00:36:318 (99) - k? sounds better. /*Okay
  3. 00:46:181 (31,32) - k?
  4. 01:47:825 (64) - k? I prefer to emphasize 01:48:236 (66) – don sound. /*The music goes like up up down up down, so I'll keep kkdkd
  5. 01:53:167 (93,94,95,96) – ddd,k? /*I'll keep this as I'm alternating on ddd k and kkk d for this pattern.
  6. and, 01:53:784 (97) – add k? /*I prefer to keep the beat empty forconsistency with other patterns
[Oni]
  1. 00:20:188 (46) -  delete? /*Okay
  2. 00:23:989 (68) - don? and, 00:23:784 – add k? /*I think kkk is better than dkk there
  3. 00:25:633 (75) - k sounds and plays better. /*Okay
  4. 01:47:825 (86) – K? same as Muzu. /*Same.
  5. 01:57:791 (21) - k? , high back vocal /*Okay


good mapset~ :D I thank you for reading it through ;)
Good Luck! :D
Don't worry for the late, I'm really happy with your mod, thanks :D
PatZar
Yaaaa, a little mod from me :3
[Oni]
00:43:304 (26) - d
00:56:455 (95,97.101) - k
01:00:359 (109,111,113,115,119,122,123) - k

[Ura Oni]
00:58:099 (258,259) - ctrl + g
01:00:975 (269,270) - ^ same
01:02:825 (275,276) - ^
01:04:058 (279,280) - ^
Lost The Lights

Genocide wrote:

Yaaaa, a little mod from me :3

[Ura Oni]
00:58:099 (258,259) - ctrl + g No, this has no sense, sound is always the same (Up to down).
01:00:975 (269,270) - ^ same ^
01:02:825 (275,276) - ^ ^
01:04:058 (279,280) - ^ ^
No changes.
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

Genocide wrote:

Yaaaa, a little mod from me :3
[Oni]
00:43:304 (26) - d /*Done this
00:56:455 (95,97.101) - k /*I'd want to keep only dons here.
01:00:359 (109,111,113,115,119,122,123) - k /*^
Thanks~
snowball112
Hey ^^ Mod from #modreqs

Kantan
Looks good overall, but I feel that some parts have very very few notes and that you could add some without making the map too hard for beginners, in particular between 00:52:345 (25) and 01:17:825 (1). Also, you have several spinners at parts of the song that may work better with single notes in my opinion.

-add a k at 00:19:469 (9)? Would feel better to play in my opinion and still be supported by the music, very much optional though.

- Replace spinner and slider at 00:36:729 (1,1) with circles at 00:36:729 (37) and 00:37:551 (38) and 00:38:373 (39) and 00:39:195 (40). I don't think the slider and spinner work well here. I feel that there is no drumroll of sorts in the music that would justify using a slider and I personally don't like spinners in the middle of the song because I feel they take away from the flow of the map. Similar with the spinner 01:17:825 (1) which could be replaced with single 1/1 notes as well starting at 01:17:825

- Maybe break down 00:46:181 (13,14,15) to two notes with 1/1 spacing by removing 14 to keep the map simple for beginners (I thought 1/2 notes were a taboo or so for kantan). Also, you could turn 00:46:592 (15) into a large note which would also fit with the finish in the music and give that part the same emphasis that you were achieving by using 3 notes. Similar with 01:25:633 (12,13) and 01:27:277 (15,16) and 01:28:715 (18,19). Maybe remove one of the notes and turn the other into a finish to create a similar emphasis on these parts that you wanted to achieve with 2 notes?

- Maybe replace the slider 00:52:345 (25) with 3 1/1 spaced notes at 00:52:345 (25) and 00:52:756 (26) and 00:53:167 (27), the 27 being a finish. Even though the slider fits to the music, single notes feel better to play here in my opinion and would still fit to the music. Similar with the spinner at 01:17:825 (1).

- Even though you map few circles fitting to the slow part of the song, you may want to add some notes at these points to make the map a bit less empty at that point while at the same time fitting the music in my opinion:
- 00:54:811 (26)
- 00:58:099 (28)
- 00:59:332 (29)
- 01:01:386 (31)
- 01:04:674 (33)
- 01:05:907 (34)
- 01:07:962 (36)
- 01:11:249 (38)
- 01:12:482 (39)
- 01:14:537 (41)

I know that these changes might make the map more difficult in parts, but I think that these are still suitable for beginners. It's just that the map felt a bit empty in places and that I have a personal preference of single notes over sliders and spinners for this map. The map flows a bit better that way in my opinion.
Futsuu
- similar to the Kantan, the sliders and spinners do not work out that well.

- Maybe replace spinner and slider 00:36:729 (1,1) with single notes, this time at:
- 00:36:729 (72)
- 00:37:037 (73)
- 00:37:345 (74)
- 00:37:654 (75)
- 00:37:962 (76)
- 00:38:167 (77)
- 00:38:373 (78)
I feel that this might work better to fit to the more dominant beats in the music and let the map flow better. However, regarding the entire map, the spacings would be different to what you have everywhere else, so it's very much optional. However, it's only at this one part and I think it could be alright to confront players with slightly different spacings in a futsuu difficulty.

- Maybe replace the slider 00:52:345 (45) with three single 1/1 spaced notes. Even though the slider fits to the music, you could use the last of the 3 notes to add a finish and put more emphasis on this part of the song that way before the slower part of the song. Similar with the spinners 01:17:825 (1) and 01:29:332 (1). Even though these fit, I feel that you could make the map more fun by mapping single notes to the music provided here rather mapping the spinners. In my opinion there is some room here for more note patterns, especially at 01:29:332 (1) where you have a kind of build up in the music followed by a break where players could recover from that part to prepare for the patterns of the kiai time starting at 01:35:907 (1).

- For the spinner 01:17:825 (1), you could map 4 single 1/1 notes starting at 01:17:825 to lead into the following pattern of 01:19:469 (1,2) and thereby let the map flow better.

- For the spinner 01:29:332 (1), you could map with similar spacing as already suggested at 00:36:729 above. It could look similar to this starting at 01:29:332 (30):


Even though this would be more difficult than using a spinner, I feel that it would let the map flow better and be more fun to play as well. Also, players can recover from the pattern during the following break and also help to make the suggestion at 00:36:729 not look out of place in this map and vice-versa. Also, you could put a finish on 01:32:619 (41) to put more emphasis on the song at this point before the final kiai.
Muzukashii
- In my opinion this muzukashii may be a bit too difficult due to the large number of notes with 1/4 spacing that you use, expecially triplets and doubles. With this, you get a rather large gap between the futsuu and the muzukashii in my opinion and it might be better to make the muzukashii a little easier.

You could for example:
- use only single-colour triplets. You have a few ddk triplets like 00:16:386 (12,13,14) which I feel should be used in oni. Even though using these patterns could be justified by the relatively low bpm, it might be better for players who are not familiar playing 1/4 notes to use monotonous triplets, which you do for most of the map.

- Use fewer triplets and doubles by removing notes to have more patterns with 1/2 spacings, for example in 00:15:770 (9,10,11,12,13,14) by removing note 13.

- Other than that, the final patterns of 01:58:921 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) and 02:00:564 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36) seem very monotonous compared to the rest of the map. Maybe change some kats to dons and vice-versa to make the ending a bit more interesting?

-Everything else seems fine here.
Oni
Not much to say here, only issue might be don and kat balance. Balance of dons and kats is good over the entire map in my opinion, but some sections are either very don-heavy or kat-heavy. To achieve better balance you may want to consider:

- Maybe mix dons and kats in the streams of 00:52:345 (76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83) and 01:30:975 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94).

- Maybe switch between don and kat sections more often in the slow part of the song between 00:53:167 (84) and 01:11:455 (147). You could also have some more interesting patterns here instead of having a secion of dons from 00:53:784 (86) followed by the section of kats from 01:06:318 (130).

- The section from 01:20:085 (19) to 01:28:510 (78) appears very don-heavy in my opinion. Maybe include some more kats here similar to the patterns in the following kiai times? Maybe also map some dons into 01:26:866 (67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74) to make the section more balanced overall and possibly more fun to play as well.
LTL's Ura Oni
- Again, not much to say. Maybe mix some dons into the streams of 00:52:345 (232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242) and 01:30:770 (433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441). Might be more fun to play in my opinion.

- Even though you chose to use 1/6 notes at 00:52:756 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242), you chose to use a slider at 01:31:797 (442). It might be better to replace that slider with 1/6 notes as well to the music to be consistent across the whole map, unless this was intended to be different from 00:52:756.

That's all from me and good luck with your map ^^
Lost The Lights

snowball112 wrote:

Hey ^^ Mod from #modreqs Hello

LTL's Ura Oni
- Again, not much to say. Maybe mix some dons into the streams of 00:52:345 (232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242) and 01:30:770 (433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441). Might be more fun to play in my opinion. In both, the sound its too loud, that's why all the kats, btw the first one is an 1/6, i preffer to leave it on kat only.

- Even though you chose to use 1/6 notes at 00:52:756 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242), you chose to use a slider at 01:31:797 (442). It might be better to replace that slider with 1/6 notes as well to the music to be consistent across the whole map, unless this was intended to be different from 00:52:756. Well, to be honest, i put a slider here 'cause this sounds for a 1/8, not for 1/6, that's why, so i'll keep it.

That's all from me and good luck with your map ^^
Sorry, no changes, but thanks anyways.
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane
snowball112

snowball112 wrote:

Hey ^^ Mod from #modreqs

[Kantan]Looks good overall, but I feel that some parts have very very few notes and that you could add some without making the map too hard for beginners, in particular between 00:52:345 (25) and 01:17:825 (1). Also, you have several spinners at parts of the song that may work better with single notes in my opinion.

-add a k at 00:19:469 (9)? Would feel better to play in my opinion and still be supported by the music, very much optional though. /*I'd want to keep the d k here :p, making the next d k k feel stronger, as it should be.

- Replace spinner and slider at 00:36:729 (1,1) with circles at 00:36:729 (37) and 00:37:551 (38) and 00:38:373 (39) and 00:39:195 (40). I don't think the slider and spinner work well here. I feel that there is no drumroll of sorts in the music that would justify using a slider and I personally don't like spinners in the middle of the song because I feel they take away from the flow of the map. Similar with the spinner 01:17:825 (1) which could be replaced with single 1/1 notes as well starting at 01:17:825 /*Refer to Futsuu for the reason of this.

- Maybe break down 00:46:181 (13,14,15) to two notes with 1/1 spacing by removing 14 to keep the map simple for beginners (I thought 1/2 notes were a taboo or so for kantan). Also, you could turn 00:46:592 (15) into a large note which would also fit with the finish in the music and give that part the same emphasis that you were achieving by using 3 notes. Similar with 01:25:633 (12,13) and 01:27:277 (15,16) and 01:28:715 (18,19). Maybe remove one of the notes and turn the other into a finish to create a similar emphasis on these parts that you wanted to achieve with 2 notes? /*Changed the first, but keeping the other part as it really doesn't feel the same for me

- Maybe replace the slider 00:52:345 (25) with 3 1/1 spaced notes at 00:52:345 (25) and 00:52:756 (26) and 00:53:167 (27), the 27 being a finish. Even though the slider fits to the music, single notes feel better to play here in my opinion and would still fit to the music. Similar with the spinner at 01:17:825 (1). /*Refer to Futsuu for the reason of this.

- Even though you map few circles fitting to the slow part of the song, you may want to add some notes at these points to make the map a bit less empty at that point while at the same time fitting the music in my opinion: /*It'd result in something very similar to what I have in Futsuu, so I'll keep the notes this far from each other.
- 00:54:811 (26)
- 00:58:099 (28)
- 00:59:332 (29)
- 01:01:386 (31)
- 01:04:674 (33)
- 01:05:907 (34)
- 01:07:962 (36)
- 01:11:249 (38)
- 01:12:482 (39)
- 01:14:537 (41)

I know that these changes might make the map more difficult in parts, but I think that these are still suitable for beginners. It's just that the map felt a bit empty in places and that I have a personal preference of single notes over sliders and spinners for this map. The map flows a bit better that way in my opinion.

[Futsuu]- similar to the Kantan, the sliders and spinners do not work out that well.

- Maybe replace spinner and slider 00:36:729 (1,1) with single notes, this time at:
- 00:36:729 (72)
- 00:37:037 (73)
- 00:37:345 (74)
- 00:37:654 (75)
- 00:37:962 (76)
- 00:38:167 (77)
- 00:38:373 (78)
I feel that this might work better to fit to the more dominant beats in the music and let the map flow better. However, regarding the entire map, the spacings would be different to what you have everywhere else, so it's very much optional. However, it's only at this one part and I think it could be alright to confront players with slightly different spacings in a futsuu difficulty. /*Five 3/4 notes in a row would be a too much for a Futsuu, and having 3/2 makes this section play awkwardly, so I opted for a spinner where the player can go crazy :p

- Maybe replace the slider 00:52:345 (45) with three single 1/1 spaced notes. Even though the slider fits to the music, you could use the last of the 3 notes to add a finish and put more emphasis on this part of the song that way before the slower part of the song. Similar with the spinners 01:17:825 (1) and 01:29:332 (1). Even though these fit, I feel that you could make the map more fun by mapping single notes to the music provided here rather mapping the spinners. In my opinion there is some room here for more note patterns, especially at 01:29:332 (1) where you have a kind of build up in the music followed by a break where players could recover from that part to prepare for the patterns of the kiai time starting at 01:35:907 (1). /*Not really, this part really calls for 1/4 tapping so better having a slider there so players can tap freely

- For the spinner 01:17:825 (1), you could map 4 single 1/1 notes starting at 01:17:825 to lead into the following pattern of 01:19:469 (1,2) and thereby let the map flow better. /*This spinner is for both the streamy part and the increasing whoosh sound in the background.

- For the spinner 01:29:332 (1), you could map with similar spacing as already suggested at 00:36:729 above. It could look similar to this starting at 01:29:332 (30): /*Did something else here, as I said above, five 3/4 in a row are too much for a Futsuu.


Even though this would be more difficult than using a spinner, I feel that it would let the map flow better and be more fun to play as well. Also, players can recover from the pattern during the following break and also help to make the suggestion at 00:36:729 not look out of place in this map and vice-versa. Also, you could put a finish on 01:32:619 (41) to put more emphasis on the song at this point before the final kiai.

[Muzukashii]- In my opinion this muzukashii may be a bit too difficult due to the large number of notes with 1/4 spacing that you use, expecially triplets and doubles. With this, you get a rather large gap between the futsuu and the muzukashii in my opinion and it might be better to make the muzukashii a little easier. /*Yup, I already know this is quite hard for a Muzukashii, but given the song is quite complex, the map should be somewhat related, and the gap is not that big as the Futsuu is somewhat complex too.

You could for example:
- use only single-colour triplets. You have a few ddk triplets like 00:16:386 (12,13,14) which I feel should be used in oni. Even though using these patterns could be justified by the relatively low bpm, it might be better for players who are not familiar playing 1/4 notes to use monotonous triplets, which you do for most of the map. /*ddk are allowed as long as they're not being overused, I use only 3 ddk patterns in the whole map, so it's okay :p

- Use fewer triplets and doubles by removing notes to have more patterns with 1/2 spacings, for example in 00:15:770 (9,10,11,12,13,14) by removing note 13. /*Kinda the same as above.

- Other than that, the final patterns of 01:58:921 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) and 02:00:564 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36) seem very monotonous compared to the rest of the map. Maybe change some kats to dons and vice-versa to make the ending a bit more interesting? /*If I make this parts mixed, it'll raise considerably the difficulty, also they'll fit as the song changes a bit there

-Everything else seems fine here.

[Oni]Not much to say here, only issue might be don and kat balance. Balance of dons and kats is good over the entire map in my opinion, but some sections are either very don-heavy or kat-heavy. To achieve better balance you may want to consider:

- Maybe mix dons and kats in the streams of 00:52:345 (76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83) and 01:30:975 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94). /*This is intended, having a mixed stream wouldn't give the same emphasis I'd want to give.

- Maybe switch between don and kat sections more often in the slow part of the song between 00:53:167 (84) and 01:11:455 (147). You could also have some more interesting patterns here instead of having a secion of dons from 00:53:784 (86) followed by the section of kats from 01:06:318 (130). /*Keeping this too, I decided to go [dons] [kats] instead a full section of switching pattenrs, which would be more repetitive and more boring imo.

- The section from 01:20:085 (19) to 01:28:510 (78) appears very don-heavy in my opinion. Maybe include some more kats here similar to the patterns in the following kiai times? Maybe also map some dons into 01:26:866 (67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74) to make the section more balanced overall and possibly more fun to play as well. /*I want to keep both parts greatly different, as they're also different musically, the kiai is mor intense, so it should have the "intense" patterns, it'd make the map really go monotone if I do the same here.

That's all from me and good luck with your map ^^
Thanks for the mod, I really appreciate the comments even if I didn't change much, but I really have my reasons to keep it my way.
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DakeDekaane
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