IRC mod of Hard, Insane, and partially Extra
SPOILER
20:13 *blissfulyoshi is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/386616 kanon*kanon - Calendula Requiem (TV Size) [Hard]]
20:15 blissfulyoshi: not bad
20:15 blissfulyoshi: some of the overlaps need fixing
20:15 smallboat:
20:15 blissfulyoshi: but will point those out later
20:15 smallboat: okay
20:17 blissfulyoshi: gah, your short combos in the end really screw up teh hp drain
20:17 blissfulyoshi: since hp drain is dependent on how many combos you have
20:17 smallboat: lol really?
20:17 smallboat: so hp-1?
20:17 blissfulyoshi: did you see how low my hp was in the beginning of th song
20:18 blissfulyoshi: I would either fix the combos
20:18 blissfulyoshi: or lower drain by 1-2
20:18 smallboat: okay
20:18 blissfulyoshi: and srsly, that was way harder than hard
20:18 smallboat: okay I "ll fix it
20:18 blissfulyoshi: you need something to bridge it
20:18 blissfulyoshi: besides that, the diff wasn't bad
20:18 blissfulyoshi: lets do extra and then review
20:18 smallboat: understand
20:18 smallboat: okay
20:20 blissfulyoshi: oh my
20:20 smallboat: lol
20:20 smallboat: need improve it ?
20:20 blissfulyoshi: going from 0.75 to 1.5
20:20 blissfulyoshi: is just stupid
20:21 smallboat: SV?
20:21 blissfulyoshi: the song does not suggest double teh slider speed
20:21 blissfulyoshi: bpm multiplier
20:21 smallboat: okay
20:21 blissfulyoshi: 1-> 1.2x is usually enough to tell a song is going faster
20:21 blissfulyoshi: not 0.75-> 1.5-> 1.8x
20:21 blissfulyoshi: completely unexpected
20:22 smallboat: yes I usually use 1.2 or 1.3
20:22 blissfulyoshi: if wkyik wants to map at 1.5, map the rest at 1.2 or 1.3
20:22 smallboat: okay I"ll tell him
20:23 blissfulyoshi: okay, played just the chorus by itself
20:23 blissfulyoshi: it is really not that hard
20:23 blissfulyoshi: it is jsut really unexpected
20:23 smallboat: perhap reduce the SV in kiai?
20:23 smallboat: okay
20:24 smallboat: indeed his kiai time a bit quick...1.8 sv
20:24 blissfulyoshi: as long as the transition is within 0.3x of the last one
20:24 blissfulyoshi: 30% of the last one*
20:25 blissfulyoshi: I'll be okay with it
20:25 blissfulyoshi: if more than that, pls give me a good reason
20:25 smallboat: okay I"ll tell him
20:26 blissfulyoshi: `oh yeah, I said I'll review the diffs
20:26 blissfulyoshi: 00:01:039 (2,3) - personally I don't think this overlap works that well
20:26 blissfulyoshi: usually when you see ppl do it
20:26 smallboat: hard?
20:26 blissfulyoshi: they have both curves lead toward teh same point
20:26 blissfulyoshi: yeah hard
20:26 blissfulyoshi: sry
20:27 smallboat: okay then i keep DS don"t overlap
20:27 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:27 blissfulyoshi: works for me
20:28 blissfulyoshi: 01:05:753 (3,5) - don't like how these 2 overlap
20:28 blissfulyoshi: msotly because ytou can still see 3 a bit as you do 5
20:28 blissfulyoshi: which is slightly annoying
20:29 blissfulyoshi: 01:09:182 (3,5) - ^
20:29 blissfulyoshi: same case tehre
20:29 smallboat: okay,I"ll consider it
20:29 blissfulyoshi: 01:15:610 (5,3) - more overlaps xD
20:30 blissfulyoshi: as I said before, I don't have much to complain about in ahrd
20:30 blissfulyoshi: so lets move on
20:30 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:30 smallboat: nevermind :>>
20:30 smallboat: xd
20:30 smallboat: xD
20:30 blissfulyoshi: okay besides the fact that insane is way harder than hard
20:31 smallboat: okay
20:31 smallboat: I feel my ins have many problems
20:31 blissfulyoshi: tbh, it is not that bad
20:32 blissfulyoshi: just not great
20:32 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:32 smallboat: maybe my ins diff is sent score (?
20:32 smallboat: XD
20:32 smallboat: easy play
20:32 smallboat: orz
20:32 blissfulyoshi: 00:13:361 (3) - itwould probably look better if directly on top of 2
20:32 blissfulyoshi: or to the right of 2
20:32 blissfulyoshi: not somewhere in between
20:33 blissfulyoshi: since 2 is not acting like it is part of the curve righ tnow
20:33 smallboat: okay will fix
20:33 blissfulyoshi: 00:17:539 (9,10,1) - probably will look best if they all form a single curve
20:33 blissfulyoshi: so either change 1's curve
20:33 blissfulyoshi: or reposition 1
20:34 smallboat: okay will move a bit
20:35 blissfulyoshi: 00:28:039 (1) - I feel a lot of these streams should be jumped to
20:35 blissfulyoshi: so make this further from teh next note
20:35 blissfulyoshi: 00:30:503 (6) - ^
20:35 blissfulyoshi: tell me what you think about that
20:35 smallboat: make a jump?
20:35 blissfulyoshi: yeah
20:35 blissfulyoshi: small one
20:35 smallboat: feel the vocal can make jump
20:35 blissfulyoshi: but yeah, a jump
20:36 smallboat: can"t too far ? (5 to 6)
20:36 blissfulyoshi: oh yeah
20:36 blissfulyoshi: let me playtest that one again
20:37 smallboat: okay
20:37 blissfulyoshi: yeah, make it a little futhre
20:37 blissfulyoshi: but not too far
20:37 smallboat: Then I"ll move close it
20:37 smallboat: okay
20:37 blissfulyoshi: didn't even realize it was a blue tick difference when playing
20:37 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:37 smallboat: XD
20:39 blissfulyoshi: your chorus is a bit wierd
20:39 blissfulyoshi: becasue you have a lot of compresssed streams combined with jumps
20:39 smallboat: really?
20:39 smallboat: yes
20:39 blissfulyoshi: 00:57:932 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2) -
20:39 blissfulyoshi: that for example
20:40 blissfulyoshi: you go slow through the stream
20:40 smallboat: so suggest change the rhythm?
20:40 smallboat: yes
20:40 blissfulyoshi: then you go fast to the next note
20:40 blissfulyoshi: so hmmmm
20:40 blissfulyoshi: lets see for that one
20:40 blissfulyoshi: lets try make 4 a small jump
20:40 smallboat: okay
20:40 blissfulyoshi: like in the verse
20:40 blissfulyoshi: and then make 7 a quarter long slider
20:41 smallboat: okay I"ll try it
20:41 blissfulyoshi: 01:05:111 (6,7,1) - this is probably the worse pattern in the chorus
20:41 blissfulyoshi: you go slowly upward
20:41 blissfulyoshi: and then you are forced to jump in the opposite direction
20:42 smallboat: indeed
20:42 smallboat: Then I"ll change place here
20:42 blissfulyoshi: try something a bit more intiuitve
20:42 smallboat: okay
20:43 blissfulyoshi: 01:13:039 (5,6,7,8,9) - jump sizes seem to vary a lot
20:43 blissfulyoshi: you go from crazy quarter note jumps
20:43 blissfulyoshi: to erally small quarter note jumps
20:43 smallboat: really?
20:44 blissfulyoshi: try it
20:44 smallboat: okay
20:44 blissfulyoshi: 01:05:539 (1) - play your map from here onward
20:44 blissfulyoshi: and tell me what you think
20:44 smallboat: well..
20:44 smallboat: because the vocal is up here?
20:45 blissfulyoshi: yes.....
20:45 blissfulyoshi: but the jumps don't have to be that small
20:45 blissfulyoshi: 01:15:825 (1) - and yay combo spam
20:45 smallboat: XD
20:45 smallboat: okay
20:45 blissfulyoshi: 01:17:753 (1) - more combos
20:45 blissfulyoshi: this is what is screwing up the drain
20:46 smallboat: easy fail?
20:46 blissfulyoshi: easier
20:46 blissfulyoshi: 01:21:396 (1) - don't really like stopping in the middle of jumps/streams
20:46 smallboat: okay orz
20:46 blissfulyoshi: that part is actually pretty annoying
20:47 blissfulyoshi: since you need to go from stream to jumps
20:47 smallboat: indeed
20:47 smallboat: then I replace this part here
20:47 smallboat: okay
20:47 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:47 blissfulyoshi: that is all for insane
20:47 blissfulyoshi: for now anyway
20:47 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:47 smallboat: XD
20:49 smallboat: so this map quality is normal, not bad ?
20:50 blissfulyoshi: yep
20:51 smallboat: except Extra diff)
20:51 smallboat: lol
20:51 blissfulyoshi: lol
20:51 blissfulyoshi: yeah
20:51 blissfulyoshi: was going to say that
20:51 smallboat: okay
20:53 blissfulyoshi: I guess besides that, best of luck
20:55 smallboat: lol?
20:57 smallboat: btw,thanks Bliss suggestion ~ !
20:58 blissfulyoshi: yw
20:58 smallboat:
20:59 smallboat: maybe you can post IRC?
20:59 blissfulyoshi: sure if you want
20:15 blissfulyoshi: not bad
20:15 blissfulyoshi: some of the overlaps need fixing
20:15 smallboat:
20:15 blissfulyoshi: but will point those out later
20:15 smallboat: okay
20:17 blissfulyoshi: gah, your short combos in the end really screw up teh hp drain
20:17 blissfulyoshi: since hp drain is dependent on how many combos you have
20:17 smallboat: lol really?
20:17 smallboat: so hp-1?
20:17 blissfulyoshi: did you see how low my hp was in the beginning of th song
20:18 blissfulyoshi: I would either fix the combos
20:18 blissfulyoshi: or lower drain by 1-2
20:18 smallboat: okay
20:18 blissfulyoshi: and srsly, that was way harder than hard
20:18 smallboat: okay I "ll fix it
20:18 blissfulyoshi: you need something to bridge it
20:18 blissfulyoshi: besides that, the diff wasn't bad
20:18 blissfulyoshi: lets do extra and then review
20:18 smallboat: understand
20:18 smallboat: okay
20:20 blissfulyoshi: oh my
20:20 smallboat: lol
20:20 smallboat: need improve it ?
20:20 blissfulyoshi: going from 0.75 to 1.5
20:20 blissfulyoshi: is just stupid
20:21 smallboat: SV?
20:21 blissfulyoshi: the song does not suggest double teh slider speed
20:21 blissfulyoshi: bpm multiplier
20:21 smallboat: okay
20:21 blissfulyoshi: 1-> 1.2x is usually enough to tell a song is going faster
20:21 blissfulyoshi: not 0.75-> 1.5-> 1.8x
20:21 blissfulyoshi: completely unexpected
20:22 smallboat: yes I usually use 1.2 or 1.3
20:22 blissfulyoshi: if wkyik wants to map at 1.5, map the rest at 1.2 or 1.3
20:22 smallboat: okay I"ll tell him
20:23 blissfulyoshi: okay, played just the chorus by itself
20:23 blissfulyoshi: it is really not that hard
20:23 blissfulyoshi: it is jsut really unexpected
20:23 smallboat: perhap reduce the SV in kiai?
20:23 smallboat: okay
20:24 smallboat: indeed his kiai time a bit quick...1.8 sv
20:24 blissfulyoshi: as long as the transition is within 0.3x of the last one
20:24 blissfulyoshi: 30% of the last one*
20:25 blissfulyoshi: I'll be okay with it
20:25 blissfulyoshi: if more than that, pls give me a good reason
20:25 smallboat: okay I"ll tell him
20:26 blissfulyoshi: `oh yeah, I said I'll review the diffs
20:26 blissfulyoshi: 00:01:039 (2,3) - personally I don't think this overlap works that well
20:26 blissfulyoshi: usually when you see ppl do it
20:26 smallboat: hard?
20:26 blissfulyoshi: they have both curves lead toward teh same point
20:26 blissfulyoshi: yeah hard
20:26 blissfulyoshi: sry
20:27 smallboat: okay then i keep DS don"t overlap
20:27 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:27 blissfulyoshi: works for me
20:28 blissfulyoshi: 01:05:753 (3,5) - don't like how these 2 overlap
20:28 blissfulyoshi: msotly because ytou can still see 3 a bit as you do 5
20:28 blissfulyoshi: which is slightly annoying
20:29 blissfulyoshi: 01:09:182 (3,5) - ^
20:29 blissfulyoshi: same case tehre
20:29 smallboat: okay,I"ll consider it
20:29 blissfulyoshi: 01:15:610 (5,3) - more overlaps xD
20:30 blissfulyoshi: as I said before, I don't have much to complain about in ahrd
20:30 blissfulyoshi: so lets move on
20:30 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:30 smallboat: nevermind :>>
20:30 smallboat: xd
20:30 smallboat: xD
20:30 blissfulyoshi: okay besides the fact that insane is way harder than hard
20:31 smallboat: okay
20:31 smallboat: I feel my ins have many problems
20:31 blissfulyoshi: tbh, it is not that bad
20:32 blissfulyoshi: just not great
20:32 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:32 smallboat: maybe my ins diff is sent score (?
20:32 smallboat: XD
20:32 smallboat: easy play
20:32 smallboat: orz
20:32 blissfulyoshi: 00:13:361 (3) - itwould probably look better if directly on top of 2
20:32 blissfulyoshi: or to the right of 2
20:32 blissfulyoshi: not somewhere in between
20:33 blissfulyoshi: since 2 is not acting like it is part of the curve righ tnow
20:33 smallboat: okay will fix
20:33 blissfulyoshi: 00:17:539 (9,10,1) - probably will look best if they all form a single curve
20:33 blissfulyoshi: so either change 1's curve
20:33 blissfulyoshi: or reposition 1
20:34 smallboat: okay will move a bit
20:35 blissfulyoshi: 00:28:039 (1) - I feel a lot of these streams should be jumped to
20:35 blissfulyoshi: so make this further from teh next note
20:35 blissfulyoshi: 00:30:503 (6) - ^
20:35 blissfulyoshi: tell me what you think about that
20:35 smallboat: make a jump?
20:35 blissfulyoshi: yeah
20:35 blissfulyoshi: small one
20:35 smallboat: feel the vocal can make jump
20:35 blissfulyoshi: but yeah, a jump
20:36 smallboat: can"t too far ? (5 to 6)
20:36 blissfulyoshi: oh yeah
20:36 blissfulyoshi: let me playtest that one again
20:37 smallboat: okay
20:37 blissfulyoshi: yeah, make it a little futhre
20:37 blissfulyoshi: but not too far
20:37 smallboat: Then I"ll move close it
20:37 smallboat: okay
20:37 blissfulyoshi: didn't even realize it was a blue tick difference when playing
20:37 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:37 smallboat: XD
20:39 blissfulyoshi: your chorus is a bit wierd
20:39 blissfulyoshi: becasue you have a lot of compresssed streams combined with jumps
20:39 smallboat: really?
20:39 smallboat: yes
20:39 blissfulyoshi: 00:57:932 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2) -
20:39 blissfulyoshi: that for example
20:40 blissfulyoshi: you go slow through the stream
20:40 smallboat: so suggest change the rhythm?
20:40 smallboat: yes
20:40 blissfulyoshi: then you go fast to the next note
20:40 blissfulyoshi: so hmmmm
20:40 blissfulyoshi: lets see for that one
20:40 blissfulyoshi: lets try make 4 a small jump
20:40 smallboat: okay
20:40 blissfulyoshi: like in the verse
20:40 blissfulyoshi: and then make 7 a quarter long slider
20:41 smallboat: okay I"ll try it
20:41 blissfulyoshi: 01:05:111 (6,7,1) - this is probably the worse pattern in the chorus
20:41 blissfulyoshi: you go slowly upward
20:41 blissfulyoshi: and then you are forced to jump in the opposite direction
20:42 smallboat: indeed
20:42 smallboat: Then I"ll change place here
20:42 blissfulyoshi: try something a bit more intiuitve
20:42 smallboat: okay
20:43 blissfulyoshi: 01:13:039 (5,6,7,8,9) - jump sizes seem to vary a lot
20:43 blissfulyoshi: you go from crazy quarter note jumps
20:43 blissfulyoshi: to erally small quarter note jumps
20:43 smallboat: really?
20:44 blissfulyoshi: try it
20:44 smallboat: okay
20:44 blissfulyoshi: 01:05:539 (1) - play your map from here onward
20:44 blissfulyoshi: and tell me what you think
20:44 smallboat: well..
20:44 smallboat: because the vocal is up here?
20:45 blissfulyoshi: yes.....
20:45 blissfulyoshi: but the jumps don't have to be that small
20:45 blissfulyoshi: 01:15:825 (1) - and yay combo spam
20:45 smallboat: XD
20:45 smallboat: okay
20:45 blissfulyoshi: 01:17:753 (1) - more combos
20:45 blissfulyoshi: this is what is screwing up the drain
20:46 smallboat: easy fail?
20:46 blissfulyoshi: easier
20:46 blissfulyoshi: 01:21:396 (1) - don't really like stopping in the middle of jumps/streams
20:46 smallboat: okay orz
20:46 blissfulyoshi: that part is actually pretty annoying
20:47 blissfulyoshi: since you need to go from stream to jumps
20:47 smallboat: indeed
20:47 smallboat: then I replace this part here
20:47 smallboat: okay
20:47 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:47 blissfulyoshi: that is all for insane
20:47 blissfulyoshi: for now anyway
20:47 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:47 smallboat: XD
20:49 smallboat: so this map quality is normal, not bad ?
20:50 blissfulyoshi: yep
20:51 smallboat: except Extra diff)
20:51 smallboat: lol
20:51 blissfulyoshi: lol
20:51 blissfulyoshi: yeah
20:51 blissfulyoshi: was going to say that
20:51 smallboat: okay
20:53 blissfulyoshi: I guess besides that, best of luck
20:55 smallboat: lol?
20:57 smallboat: btw,thanks Bliss suggestion ~ !
20:58 blissfulyoshi: yw
20:58 smallboat:
20:59 smallboat: maybe you can post IRC?
20:59 blissfulyoshi: sure if you want