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captin1

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captin1 2014-03-16T05:32:48+00:00

Trust wrote:
weeeeeeeee

a few suggestions for Insane and Extra~
[General]
Disable Widescreen Support on all difficulties for consistent set-up toggles.
You can delete the .osb if you don't plan on making a storyboard.
[Insane]

did everything except 04:25:166 - weeeee

It's sooooo good~

<3 u

Hinsvar

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Hinsvar 2014-03-16T05:44:40+00:00

Hello; modding for M4M here.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>Easy

00:06:637 (2,1) - I understand why is the placement like this, but the spacing change is still pretty drastic and can make typical Easy players confused. How about moving (1) to the upper-right side of the screen instead?
00:34:695 - Eh wait, why is there no finish? Is it intentional? I'm saying this because the cymbal in the song is very, very audible.
00:45:107 - Add a finish and a clap? It just fits with the instruments that are played here, IMO.
00:46:519 (1,2) - The flow here is a little weird because the movement needed to move from (1) to (2) contradicts with how (2) curves. I'd say to make (2) look like this, but then again, it's not a big deal.
00:56:048 (1) - What about ending this slider at 00:56:754 instead to follow the instrument here, so the gap before and after 00:57:284 (2) will be exactly 3/2 beats? The rhythm will be more consistent, and thus easier to follow.
02:01:342 (1,2) - Similar to 00:46:519 (1,2). How about this?
02:10:872 (1,2) - What's with the spacing here?
02:22:166 (1) - Similar to 00:56:048 (1).
02:46:166 (1) - Drag the last node one grid to the right to make the 02:46:166 (1,2) blanket better?
02:53:225 (3,1) - This is a technically valid pattern, but it does look a bit messy. I'd like it if you could make them not touch each other, but it's up to you in the end.
02:57:460 - No finish? Huh?
02:59:401 - ^
03:22:872 (1,2,1) - I get what are you trying to do here, but making such a spacing change is still kinda questionable.
03:25:695 (1,3) - They're touching each other a little. Not something big, but it'd still be nice if you separate them from each other.
03:38:401 - Uh, add a finish? I think I don't need to say why~
03:52:519 (3) - Move the middle node to (84,240) for a better blanket pattern at 03:51:813 (2,3)?
03:55:342 (2) - Whistle + finish to be consistent with 04:06:637 (3)?
03:57:107 - I think there's a weaker cymbal sound here, so maybe add a finish @ 40% volume or something?
04:00:989 (3) - Move the middle node to (100,304)? Same reason as 03:52:519 (3).

>AllStar's Normal

00:06:637 - 00:07:695 - It feels pretty redundant to have a whistle every beat here (and they kinda conflict with each other), so what about removing the ones at 00:06:989 and 00:07:695?
00:09:460 - 00:10:519 - ^ (The second and fourth white tick, to be specific.)
00:13:342 - I think you should use the Soft sampleset here, make the volume 60%, and add a whistle on the circle. It'll really fit better with the instrument this way.
00:23:225 - This obviously needs a finish due to the very audible cymbal sound. Don't you think so?
00:52:519 - Add a clap here? The music supports it here, so why not?
00:56:754 - Use 40% volume for the finish here, since the cymbal is pretty weak?
01:01:695 - Remove the finish? The instrument here isn't that heavy...
01:15:813 - ^. Use a whistle here instead, at it goes well with the instrument.
01:20:048 - And remove the finish here? I think I (sort of) know why do you place a finish here, but it... just doesn't really work.
01:27:107 - Same as 01:15:813.
01:32:754 - ^
01:51:107 (1,2,1) - I personally think that this rhythm is a bit hard to understand. I'd simply change 01:51:107 (1,2) to a 1/1 slider with a repeat to follow the vocal instead. That would be easier to follow.
03:44:048 (3) - Move this to (256,316) so the 03:42:637 (1,2,3) pattern will look neater? The current one's pretty okay, though; I just think that this circle is a little bit too close to 03:42:637 (1,2).

>Natsu's Hard

00:01:695 (1) - Move this one grid up so the width of the gap between 00:01:695 (1,2,1) will be the same? It simply looks neater that way.
00:24:284 (3) - Try adding finishes on the head and tail? There are cymbals being played on the corresponding ticks, so why not?
00:24:989 - And try to add a finish too, since there is also a cymbal playing here? It just feels empty.
00:41:048 - Add a whistle to emphasize the instrument there? This stanza feels kinda... empty, too, without any whistle in the middle, and adding one here works just well.
00:53:225 - Add a finish? I think the reason is kinda obvious at this point.
00:56:754 - Use a lower volume (maybe 35-40%) for the cymbal here, since it's pretty weak compared to the regularly played cymbals here?
00:57:284 - And add a finish here too? (I think you left out a lot of cymbals that are audible enough to the point where they definitely need a finish to emphasize them. Just look out for similar cases.)
00:58:872 (1,2) - (2)'s tail is touching (1)'s body, making this look kinda weird. It's pretty hard to keep the pattern like this without moving the tail out from the path, though, so...
01:39:372 (5,6) - Select them, then move to (440,176)? Flows better and make the spacing change at 01:39:107 (4,5) easier to read, IMO.
03:05:489 (3,4) - ^ (but move to (180,280))
04:24:548 (3,4) - ...Just make them spaced by 1.4x from 04:24:284 (2), I suppose. Same reason as the suggestion above.

>Insane

00:08:578 (2,3,4) - Uh, don't you think they're a little too crowded? Not much of a problem though, but I think the flow here could be better if 00:09:107 (4)'s node on the tail were moved to (216,256).
00:24:548 (2) - Move this to (392,340) to make a 1.9x jump? This part becomes more natural and comfortable to play... at least for me.
01:30:460 (3) - Move this to (196,36)? This is to make sure this slider doesn't touch 01:30:107 (2). Right now, it looks slightly unappealing.
01:55:342 (5,1) - I think I know why is the combo pattern like this here, but it still would be nicer (and look/feel more consistent) if you swapped the NC placement on this spot.
02:17:048 (3,5) - Is the slight overlap here intentional? It looks weird, IMO. Just saying.
02:19:342 (1,3,4) - ^
02:49:872 (4) - Horizontally flipping this will make the flow here far, FAR better, and thus will make this section more comfortable to play. Try it first, please.
03:54:989 (5) - The flow here feels.. awkward. Maybe you can try something like this?

>Azer's Extra

00:02:754 (2,3) - I'm not too sure why, but... I just don't like the flow that resulted from how these two circles were placed. I personally would place them like this, but it's just a personal opinion in the end.
00:05:931 - The vocal's pitch is rising at this point, so I think you should map this tick. It'll feel pretty empty and awkward here if this tick isn't mapped.
00:40:519 (5) - Is this note being not NC'd intentional? Looking at the combo pattern here, I think an NC should be applied here.
00:53:225 (1,1) - Any reason to leave the first (1) to be alone in its own combo? I suggest to de-NC the second (1), as I think it doesn't really serve any purpose to be here.
01:19:519 (5,6) - Same case as 00:46:519 (1,2) in captin's Easy diff. Maybe moving (6) just a little bit above (5) and rotating it counter-clockwise (I'd say around 15 degrees) will help?
01:37:960 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - Is the accelerated spacing here intentional? If yes, why? The music here isn't going gradually stronger with each few notes, so it's a little confusing to me.
02:44:931 (2,3,4) - Make an equilateral triangle with these three circles to form a kite-like pattern with 02:44:754 (1)? It looks more structured and fun to play, IMO. (Should look like this.)

Welp, that's it. A very good map overall, actually; I think I'm just kinda picky today.

~~Trust please don't rage at me D:~~

Good luck on the way

captin1

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captin1 2014-03-16T07:21:49+00:00

"Hinsvar"

Hello; modding for M4M here.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>Easy

00:06:637 (2,1) - I understand why is the placement like this, but the spacing change is still pretty drastic and can make typical Easy players confused. How about moving (1) to the upper-right side of the screen instead?
00:34:695 - Eh wait, why is there no finish? Is it intentional? I'm saying this because the cymbal in the song is very, very audible. ha hitsounded before i made some rhythm changes, so these are mistakes
00:45:107 - Add a finish and a clap? It just fits with the instruments that are played here, IMO.
00:46:519 (1,2) - The flow here is a little weird because the movement needed to move from (1) to (2) contradicts with how (2) curves. I'd say to make (2) look like this, but then again, it's not a big deal. i think i'll keep what i have, to keep it a bit neater
00:56:048 (1) - What about ending this slider at 00:56:754 instead to follow the instrument here, so the gap before and after 00:57:284 (2) will be exactly 3/2 beats? The rhythm will be more consistent, and thus easier to follow.
02:01:342 (1,2) - Similar to 00:46:519 (1,2). How about [url=02:01:342 (1,2) -]this[/url]?
02:10:872 (1,2) - What's with the spacing here? idk lol
02:22:166 (1) - Similar to 00:56:048 (1).
02:46:166 (1) - Drag the last node one grid to the right to make the 02:46:166 (1,2) blanket better?
02:53:225 (3,1) - This is a technically valid pattern, but it does look a bit messy. I'd like it if you could make them not touch each other, but it's up to you in the end.
02:57:460 - No finish? Huh?
02:59:401 - ^
03:22:872 (1,2,1) - I get what are you trying to do here, but making such a spacing change is still kinda questionable.
03:25:695 (1,3) - They're touching each other a little. Not something big, but it'd still be nice if you separate them from each other.
03:38:401 - Uh, add a finish? I think I don't need to say why~
03:52:519 (3) - Move the middle node to (84,240) for a better blanket pattern at 03:51:813 (2,3)?
03:55:342 (2) - Whistle + finish to be consistent with 04:06:637 (3)?
03:57:107 - I think there's a weaker cymbal sound here, so maybe add a finish @ 40% volume or something?
04:00:989 (3) - Move the middle node to (100,304)? Same reason as 03:52:519 (3).

>Insane

00:08:578 (2,3,4) - Uh, don't you think they're a little too crowded? Not much of a problem though, but I think the flow here could be better if 00:09:107 (4)'s node on the tail were moved to (216,256).
00:24:548 (2) - Move this to (392,340) to make a 1.9x jump? This part becomes more natural and comfortable to play... at least for me.
01:30:460 (3) - Move this to (196,36)? This is to make sure this slider doesn't touch 01:30:107 (2). Right now, it looks slightly unappealing.
01:55:342 (5,1) - I think I know why is the combo pattern like this here, but it still would be nicer (and look/feel more consistent) if you swapped the NC placement on this spot. just added another one
02:17:048 (3,5) - Is the slight overlap here intentional? It looks weird, IMO. Just saying.
02:19:342 (1,3,4) - ^ both are intentional yes
02:49:872 (4) - Horizontally flipping this will make the flow here far, FAR better, and thus will make this section more comfortable to play. Try it first, please. that is nice cool
03:54:989 (5) - The flow here feels.. awkward. Maybe you can try something like this? the rapid changes in flow are intended to bring out the sharpness of the vocal, but i'll think about this

Welp, that's it. A very good map overall, actually; I think I'm just kinda picky today.

~~Trust please don't rage at me D:~~

Good luck on the way

most of it fixed, thaanks~

AllStar12

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AllStar12 2014-03-16T07:22:54+00:00

New Page! \:D/

Hinsvar wrote:
Hello; modding for M4M here.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>AllStar's Normal
00:06:637 - 00:07:695 - It feels pretty redundant to have a whistle every beat here (and they kinda conflict with each other), so what about removing the ones at 00:06:989 and 00:07:695? Sure ✔
00:09:460 - 00:10:519 - ^ (The second and fourth white tick, to be specific.) Alright ✔
00:13:342 - I think you should use the Soft sampleset here, make the volume 60%, and add a whistle on the circle. It'll really fit better with the instrument this way. Agree with you on this ✔
00:23:225 - This obviously needs a finish due to the very audible cymbal sound. Don't you think so? whoops, I totally missed that! ✔
00:52:519 - Add a clap here? The music supports it here, so why not? Understandable here ✔
00:56:754 - Use 40% volume for the finish here, since the cymbal is pretty weak? I set it to 45% instead and add another inherited point to being back the volume to 60% ✔
01:01:695 - Remove the finish? The instrument here isn't that heavy... Removed the finish along with the others that were similar to this part ✔
01:15:813 - ^. Use a whistle here instead, at it goes well with the instrument. Personally don't like the normal whistle along with the finish together so instead I used soft whistle and moved the finish. Did the same to the others that sounded like this part. ✔
01:20:048 - And remove the finish here? I think I (sort of) know why do you place a finish here, but it... just doesn't really work. Done along with the others that were like this part. ✔
01:27:107 - Same as 01:15:813.
01:32:754 - ^
01:51:107 (1,2,1) - I personally think that this rhythm is a bit hard to understand. I'd simply change 01:51:107 (1,2) to a 1/1 slider with a repeat to follow the vocal instead. That would be easier to follow. Did something different here instead ✔
03:44:048 (3) - Move this to (256,316) so the 03:42:637 (1,2,3) pattern will look neater? The current one's pretty okay, though; I just think that this circle is a little bit too close to 03:42:637 (1,2). Sure ✔
Welp, that's it. A very good map overall, actually; I think I'm just kinda picky today.

~~Trust please don't rage at me D:~~

Good luck on the way

Thanks for modding Hinsvar!

http://puu.sh/7xf7W.osu

Natsu

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Joined September 2012

Natsu 2014-03-16T07:48:52+00:00

Hinsvar wrote:
>Natsu's Hard
00:24:989 - And try to add a finish too, since there is also a cymbal playing here? It just feels empty. Ah in this one Ithink it soudn pretty bad orz, I think whistle is best
00:56:754 - Use a lower volume (maybe 35-40%) for the cymbal here, since it's pretty weak compared to the regularly played cymbals here? I think is ok, I like how it sound actually
00:58:872 (1,2) - (2)'s tail is touching (1)'s body, making this look kinda weird. It's pretty hard to keep the pattern like this without moving the tail out from the path, though, so... can't be helped orz
03:05:489 (3,4) - ^ (but move to (180,280)) maybe wrong placement? anyways I did some here

Good luck on the way

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