Easy

Hard

00:03:864 (1,2,3,4) - Theses are overlapped weirdly, can you fix it ?
00:07:174 (1,2) - ^
00:08:829 (1) - x:156 y:304 to make a better overlap with the previous slider (this makes a little jump, but allowed into an Hard diff)
00:51:036 (5,2) - Kinda ugly overlap
00:53:105 (5,1) - maybe do a blanket ?
00:57:450 (3,4) - Overlapping sucks here too. :'(
01:00:760 (1,2) - ^
01:06:760 (2,3,4) - ^
03:09:243 - Same problem about the end, the song doesn't end here

Insane

Lumina wrote:

Hello. From my modding queue

General : Offset 2200 sounds just better, you should fix it, also resnap your timings point and unherited after that. ok

Easy

UNRANKABLE! : Name it as Normal, since the Star Rating is 3 stars don't think it's necessary, unless a BAT tells me so, ill keep this
HP3, AR5, OD4 gotta keep the difficulty low lol

00:12:140 (1,3) - This overlap doesn't look good fixed this one
01:21:657 (1) - Maybe extend the spinner to the next big white tick ? Because it's a bit short for a spinner into a Normal diff uhh k
02:14:622 (1) - x:40 y:256 k
03:09:243 - The song doesn't ends here but here -> 03:34:071 - i know it does, however its just them replaying the same thing a bunch of times, and i don't really think its worth mapping that out. also, i feel like it'd get too long with only 1 break.

Hard

00:03:864 (1,2,3,4) - Theses are overlapped weirdly, can you fix it ? fixed a few of the overlaps, some i like though :/
00:07:174 (1,2) - ^
00:08:829 (1) - x:156 y:304 to make a better overlap with the previous slider (this makes a little jump, but allowed into an Hard diff) k
00:51:036 (5,2) - Kinda ugly overlap uh. i just made it like ^?
00:53:105 (5,1) - maybe do a blanket ? i would but DS and the area i have doesn't really let me make one
00:57:450 (3,4) - Overlapping sucks here too. :'(
01:00:760 (1,2) - ^
01:06:760 (2,3,4) - ^
03:09:243 - Same problem about the end, the song doesn't end here

Insane

AR9 ? hmm i don't think thats necessary since nothing is really clumped together much, and there's alot of jumps

00:24:553 (3,4) - Make theses symetrical like this : http://puu.sh/7aurw.jpg nah i like it like this how it is
02:09:657 (6,7) - ^ http://puu.sh/7auGB.jpg
02:23:725 (5,1) - Overlap ? k fixed
03:09:243 - Still ending here... the song continues hm..

Nice map, but work a bit on esthetics, it will help you.
Good luck. :3

Caffe_[Latte] wrote:

As M4M from my modding queue

[Insane]

00:08:406 (4) - ctrl g? fixed a different way

00:16:889 (6) - 108 l 100 k

00:29:717 (3) - 284 l 96 k

00:35:303 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/7aS8i.jpg would break spacing and flow

If you applided ^, 00:36:958 (4) - ctrl g

01:09:441 (3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/7aSd8.jpg k (kinda)

01:21:234 (4) - 220 232 nah

02:03:027 (6,7,8,9) - http://puu.sh/7aSoD.jpg (6) 476 l 212, (7) 306 l 278, (8) 337 l 97, (9) 372 l 196 not a bad idea but it flows better the way it is

02:11:096 (2) - reverse hmm good idea :3

02:15:648 (4) - 132 l 212 k

02:39:027 (7,1) - spacing bleh doesn't really matter imo, made it slightly closer since if i completely fix the spacing, it touches lol

02:51:855 (4) - ah... make more S? uhh k? Oo

[Hard]

00:07:165 (1,2,3,4) - match with 00:03:855 (1,2,3,4) no i want some variety

01:54:337 (4,5) - blanket perfectly. (maybe third point to 333 l 140) k

02:22:475 (3,4) - dosen't stacked o-o i couldve sworn it was stacked last time i checked. bleh fixed

02:47:096 (4) - reverse ? hmm good suggestion ty

02:48:337 (3,4) - blanket well nazi lol >< kk

I can't find any problem in Normal and Easy

Well... Really nice song and nice map
thx for mod (pink cuz its manly)
Good luck!

-Kirito wrote:

hi owo from my queues

forgive me for being late

[Easy]
00:48:131 (4) - x396 y232 move? here interval error appeared. nice catch fixed
03:09:234 - ~ 03:34:062 - why, this part circle is blank? the song is not over. rythm kinda gets boring after. also i don't really want the song to be too long

good difficulty

[Hard]
00:17:096 (5) - NC add k
01:54:337 (4) - ,01:54:751 (5) - crtl + g? change the flow of other? and (5) NC add but that kills the spacing and i think it flows okay
02:03:027 (4) - NC add k
02:07:993 (4) - ^ k
02:09:234 (1) - clap add i don't really hear a clap in the background Oo
02:08:820 (1) - NC remove k
02:09:648 (3) - NC add k
02:12:544 (3) - clap add ^
02:21:648 (2,3,4,5,2,4,6) - clap remove. i can not hear the sound of the clap. k
03:03:855 (2) - do you want to change the direction of the slide curve? if you change, will improve the flow. kk

01

03:09:234 - ~ 03:34:062 - Easy is the same

[Insane]
00:02:197 (1,2) - speed ​​difference. (2) add the new Combo, or at the same speed change k i had to put the offset back a bit but fixed
00:02:197 - Object isn't snapped kk
00:02:403 - Object's end is not snapped ^
00:17:096 (7) - NC add ~all nc and claps fixed~
01:55:165 (4) - clap add
01:56:820 (4) - ^
01:59:717 (1) - ^
02:21:234 (1) - clap remove. i can not hear the sound of the clap.
02:22:062 (2) - , 02:23:303 (4,6,1,3,1,3) - ^
02:40:682 (2) - crtl + g? good idea. fixed
02:58:889 (3) - duplicated on the scoreboard. hmm it might be ur skin but yah i moved it down

01

03:09:234 - ~ 03:34:062 - Easy is the same

good deco27 song

1. 00:00:544 - in the EASY diffu you have ''Omit first bar line'' remove it.
   
   SPOILER

   
2. Inconsistency in timing selections: in the pkmnyab's Normal the red line is at: 00:02:200 - when in all other diffs is on 00:00:544 - move the red line in the normal diffu like in the others diff.offset should be the same in all diffs.

1. Unsnapped greenlines:
   
   SPOILER

   Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at:
   00:02:415 - snap to 00:02:406
   00:02:829 - snap to 00:02:819
   00:05:726 - snap to 00:05:716
   00:06:140 - snap to 00:06:130
   00:10:691 - snap to 00:10:681
   00:11:105 - snap to 00:11:095
   00:12:346 - snap to 00:12:337
   00:12:760 - snap to 00:12:750
   00:16:484 - snap to 00:16:475
   00:16:947 - snap to 00:16:992
   00:40:533 - snap to 00:40:578
   00:40:898 - snap to 00:40:888
   00:47:105 - snap to 00:47:095
   00:47:519 - snap to 00:47:509
   01:51:657 - snap to 01:51:647
   01:52:071 - snap to 01:52:061
   02:07:381 - snap to 02:07:371
   02:07:795 - snap to 02:07:785
   02:08:002 - snap to 02:07:992
   03:02:829 - snap to 03:02:819
   03:03:243 - snap to 03:03:233
2. 00:26:200 (2) - try to do a blanket here:
   
   SPOILER

   

   288,88,26200,2,0,P|249:44|193:32,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

3. 01:44:819 - don't miss this note here,is a strong sound here,so add a circle.
4. 02:27:855 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern is so confusional for beginners T_T i explain you why:
   imo you should totally re-do this pattern.
   
   SPOILER

   the green line is for a good flow.
   red for a bad on and is confusional ò-ò beginners need a good flow
   
5. 02:36:544 (3,4,5) - here is again a confusional flow,try to fix it like this:
   
   SPOILER

   
6. 02:39:440 - a strong sound is missing again.add a circle here.
7. 02:46:889 (5,6) - again a bad flow,what about to remove the slider and replace those with 2 circles like this:
   
   SPOILER

   
8. 02:49:371 - add something here
9. 03:09:233 - aww sad that you finished to map here i aspected a finish here : 03:34:061 - with a spinner with iiih c: nvm your choise

1. 00:07:993 (5,1,2) - this pattern should be not be used in normal diffu is a bit hard
2. 00:15:855 (2,3) - i would use just a reverse-slider here and not a circle+slider
3. 00:29:096 (2,3) - same ^
4. 00:33:648 (1) - something like: for a better flow?
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:48:337 (5,6) - use a slider here or unstack
6. 01:08:820 (2) - try something like this here: for a better flow
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 02:14:613 (7) - add a new combo here since the breack is starting it will look better

1. 00:02:197 (1) - Unsnapped slider (start).
2. 00:02:197 (1) - Unsnapped slider (end).

-Kirito wrote:

[pkmnyab's Normal]
- slider tick tate -1 ?
02:01:768 (1) - clap add I feel that it sounds better if it's no clap here since another clap comes before or comes right after
02:07:579 (6) - ^
02:08:406 (1) - ^
02:12:958 (5) - add a NC, and add clap to all slides done
02:14:200 (6) - clap remove. here also, there is no sound clap. fixed
03:09:234 - ~ 03:34:062 - Easy is the same

Lally wrote:

[Normal]

1. 00:07:993 (5,1,2) - this pattern should be not be used in normal diffu is a bit hard I think this is fine as it is
2. 00:15:855 (2,3) - i would use just a reverse-slider here and not a circle+slider fixed
3. 00:29:096 (2,3) - same ^ fixed
4. 00:33:648 (1) - something like: for a better flow? fixed
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:48:337 (5,6) - use a slider here or unstack added slider
6. 01:08:820 (2) - try something like this here: for a better flow
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 02:14:613 (7) - add a new combo here since the breack is starting it will look better fixed

spaminabox wrote:

Normal

00:29:095 (2) - Add clap I feel that adding a clap here would be too repetitive

00:07:993 (5,2) - Seems to be the only stack of this sort in the whole piece. Doesn't feel like it fits to me. fixed
00:40:268 (5,1,2,3) - Not a big fan of this off-beat rhythm in a normal. I would chart it like you did with 01:59:717 (3,4). hm the way it is now matches the music and beat very strongly, I think I forgot to change it at 01:59:717 (3,4)
01:08:406 (1,2) - Suddenly not following the vocal rhythm, or actually any discernable rhythm. I'd just go with following the vocals as you have done for this and the few sliders after. fixed
01:08:820 (2,3) - Not distance snapped. fixed when I listened to your previous suggestion
02:08:820 (2,3) - Suits being a slider more imo. fixed

[Minakami Yuki] wrote:

[pkmnyab's Normal]
[notice]

1. 00:14:613 (1) - why nc here? remove it? fixed
2. 00:15:854 (2,3) - the placement may confuse players, the same to 00:29:095 (2,3) - remapped this to a slider
3. 00:34:889 (3,1) - blanket? fixed
4. 00:44:820 (4,2) - stack? properly stacked
5. 00:51:855 (1) - extend to 00:53:095 - ? changed
6. 01:08:820 (2,3) - x1.22 → x1.0 not sure what you mean by this
7. 01:47:303 (2,3) - make the distance close to x1.0 fixed
8. 02:12:958 (1) - the repeat is under 02:12:131 (4) - , that is hard to read and maybe unrankable fixed
9. 02:27:855 (1,2,3,4) - 02:31:165 (1,2,3,1,2) - please keep the same ds in mapping a normal diff fixed
10. 02:40:268 (4,1) - stack better? fixed
11. 03:13:371 (3,1) - avoid this kind of rhythm is better changed to slider
12. 03:19:164 (5,6) - x1.11 → x1.0

spaminabox wrote:

Here to return the M4M

Insane

00:28:682 (1) - Feels as if it needs a cymbal finish. oops forgot to add that :X
00:54:337 (5) - There is no snare on this beat in the song itself. Not too bothered if the clap stays though it fits either way.
01:20:820 (3) - Add a clap at the end of this as it's there in the drums. cant really hear it
02:13:786 (5) - Same observation as 00:54:337 (5).
03:33:233 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Add claps? hmm ill think about it, they kind of sound loud so im not sure

00:27:026 (1) - Ctrl-g feels more natural to me here. not to me lol xD
00:39:855 (5,6) - This jump feels big, I would just distance snap (6) to give something a little like this? i like it, fixed
01:09:441 (3,4,5) - Have the distance snap similar to the other one in this section? which one?
01:16:682 (1,2,3) - The distance between 1 and 2 feels too small whereas the jump between feels too big. fixed the longer jumps, 1 and 2 seems fine imo
01:52:062 (7,1) - Caught me off guard especially as there is a held note in the vocals. i see what you mean but i don't really have a good way to fix this
02:16:061 (1,2) - Could do with a little more of a jump here. hmm good catch, added
02:47:303 (5,6) - Moving (6) to 44,268 and then ctrl-g makes for a better time to jump than before. i don't really like the looks of that, i might change it to something else later if i think of something
03:00:957 (4,5,1) - The stack you did at 1:52:062 before would actually fit quite nicely here if you were to remove the (5). k
03:20:819 (3,1) - The break here is a little weird since there's then not much map left to go anyways. ill keep that in mind

I feel like I've done as much as I can before I start attempting to remap the whole map for you otherwise I could literally be here forever with no guarantees that you would even consider the changes I put forward at all... x.x Though feel free to pm me in-game if you want more input on just the jump patterns themselves I'm happy to go into it a little more if you want it.

Hard

00:54:131 (3) - Add clap k
03:33:233 (3,4) - Claps here? i will consider

00:02:819 (2,3) - Put slider first to match the synth rhythm better? i think its fine
00:06:130 (2,3) - ^
00:09:440 (2,3) - ^
00:39:441 (3) - Placing this under the slider makes it a difficult to read for my taste. ill change if more people say so, but i think its fine
00:57:234 (2) - ^
01:08:406 (6,1) - While it's nice that (5),(6) and (1) are all equal distance. I feel (1) ought to be distance snapped a little further away from (6). fixd
01:44:405 (3,4) - Make the rhythm like this? i like it, fixed
01:45:440 (1,2) - Similar thing here, I feel the hitcircle 1st fits better.
01:46:268 (3,4) - ^
03:20:819 (3,1) - Once again, break feels forced.

Normal

00:29:095 (2) - Add clap

00:07:993 (5,2) - Seems to be the only stack of this sort in the whole piece. Doesn't feel like it fits to me.
00:40:268 (5,1,2,3) - Not a big fan of this off-beat rhythm in a normal. I would chart it like you did with 01:59:717 (3,4).
01:08:406 (1,2) - Suddenly not following the vocal rhythm, or actually any discernable rhythm. I'd just go with following the vocals as you have done for this and the few sliders after.
01:08:820 (2,3) - Not distance snapped.
02:08:820 (2,3) - Suits being a slider more imo.

Easy

00:44:406 (5,1,2,3) - I reckon this little bit should be charted a little more, I would especially put one between (5) and (1) as it's the height of the phrase. k fixed all the issues here, basically, before, i had 4 circles in a row and some other mod told me not to have those in easy
01:02:200 (1,2,3) - Same as above, feels bare.
01:46:475 (3,4,1) - This sort of stack definitely is too hard for easy. Everything needs to be super clear when it comes to this level of map. fixed
02:01:786 (2,3,4,1) - Same as the others, mapping the weaker 2 beats in the bar can be fine but it seems silly when you have such a prominent downbeat in the voice.
02:10:475 (6,1) - Whilst the voice starts on the red, The strong beat between these 2 is still very prominent here. I'd go with this.
02:49:371 (2,3) - I think you've got the point by now. >_>
02:51:855 (2,3) - And here
03:02:613 (2,3,4,1) - Well
03:25:769 - Oh god something that isn't me thinking you've missed notes out! :p Same as the other diffs here.
03:33:233 (2) - Put a clap on the slider tick maybe?i will consider

Seeing as everyone seems to be doing it here's my lame attempt at the insane on dt/nc. Not the kinda map I generally like to dt cause my streaming is awful but the few bigger jumps which were in it were delicious to play. ^^

[Minakami Yuki] wrote:

From my queue of M4M

1. Grey——Just some complaints.
2. Black——My personal suggestions.
3. Bold——Highly recommended.
4. Red——(Maybe) Unrankable, you'd better fix it.

[General]

1. None.

[Easy]

1. 00:15:441 (1,1) - stack together? not allowed to stack on easy
2. 00:33:234 (3) - nc? k
3. 00:36:544 (3,4) - nazi blanket lol. fixed xD
4. 00:44:406 (5,1,2,3) - the rhythm here may be a little confused to new players, imo I prefer to follow the vocal changed
5. 01:03:855 (2) - may touch the hp bar k fixed
6. 01:16:682 (2,3,4) - too hard in easy diff, and nc on 01:18:337 (4) - both fixed
7. 01:46:475 (3,1) - ^
8. 03:07:578 - make the kiai time end at the same time as your other diffs at 03:07:993 - k
9. 03:36:130 - change n:c1 to s:c1 kk
   ——
10. Some patterns in the easy may be hard to new players imo. Consider to simplify the rhythm to make it easier.

[pkmnyab's Normal]

1. 00:14:613 (1) - why nc here? remove it?
2. 00:15:854 (2,3) - the placement may confuse players, the same to 00:29:095 (2,3) -
3. 00:34:889 (3,1) - blanket?
4. 00:44:820 (4,2) - stack?
5. 00:51:855 (1) - extend to 00:53:095 - ?
6. 01:08:820 (2,3) - x1.22 → x1.0
7. 01:47:303 (2,3) - make the distance close to x1.0
8. 02:12:958 (1) - the repeat is under 02:12:131 (4) - , that is hard to read and maybe unrankable
9. 02:27:855 (1,2,3,4) - 02:31:165 (1,2,3,1,2) - please keep the same ds in mapping a normal diff
10. 02:40:268 (4,1) - stack better?
11. 03:13:371 (3,1) - avoid this kind of rhythm is better
12. 03:19:164 (5,6) - x1.11 → x1.0
    ——
13. Need some works. And normal diff should keep the same DS all the time.

[Hard]

1. 00:47:510 (4,5,6) - make the same ds? i like this '^'
2. 01:45:441 (1,2,3,4) - move 2 and 4 out is better when playing changed from other mod
3. 03:36:130 - change n:c1 to s:c1 k

[Insane]

1. 00:03:026 (3,4,5,6) - this pattern makes a better feeling in playing http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1385371 fixed differently
2. 00:40:062 (6,7) - let 6 blanket 7 to make a bigger jump between 00:40:475 (7,1) - ? changed design from another mod
3. 01:13:579 (4,5) - since the distance is big here, why not also make a jump between 01:13:993 (5,6) - ? fixed big spacing
4. 01:17:096 (2,3,4,5,6) - the jump may be too big here? fixed
5. 02:15:441 (3,4) - this part is quite so not make a jump like this, and the placement is different from 02:18:544 (2,3,4) - , right? k
6. 03:17:716 (1,3) - blanket? well it was a blanket but i guess it wasn't really good xD
7. 03:33:233 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I recommend to make the stream easier to go, 'kill a player at the end' is not a good idea, is it? kk
8. 03:36:130 - change n:c1 to s:c1 k
   ——
9. The connection of the patterns and jumps is not very smooth, I just point out some of them in my modding, but hard, and poor to point out all. Since you have no ranked maps? Not bad job, but can be better.

Good luck with your map <3.

Pandiar wrote:

[pkmnyab's Normal]
00:09:233 (2) - add clap done
00:29:509 (3) - add clap the end of the slider done
00:53:509 (1) - 00:55:165 (1) - It may be difficult for Easy and Normal players Hm I think this is fine, but maybe I will consider moving slider closer to center of spinner
01:08:406 (1) - add finish beginning of slider and add clap end of slider done
02:07:165 (6) - add clap the end of the slider done
02:07:993 (1) - ^
02:08:819 (2) - ^
02:37:785 (1) - it may be difficult for Easy and Normal players fixed
03:05:923 (1) - 03:07:578 (1) - ^
03:13:371 (3) - add clap the end of the slider done
03:15:854 (4) - remove clap the beginning of the slider done
03:16:268 (5) - remove clap the end of the slider done
03:17:095 (6) - add clap done

good luck ! XD

Pandiar wrote:

hi
from my Q

i hope it comes to your help!

[General]
uncheck widescreen support



[Insane]
00:03:027 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - how about this? fixed everything unless i said so

SPOILER

00:07:579 (2,3,4) - another pattern suggestion

SPOILER

00:08:820 (1,2) - try to change slider like 00:02:199 (1)
00:10:268 (7) - move x168 y46?
00:11:510 (3,4,5,1) - make triangle? like this

SPOILER

00:12:751 (2) - stack on 00:11:924 (5)?
00:12:751 (2,3,4,5,6) - i recommend DS1.0 of all notes
00:16:889 (6) - move x100 y108?
00:19:578(5) - remove? vocal can not hear and how about this?

SPOILER

00:33:027 (1) - start 00:32:613 (6)? that means stack
00:37:993 (7) - i think close from 00:37:579 (6)
00:57:648 (2,3) - ctrl + G
01:07:579 (6) - try to move in the vertical?
01:09:027 (2) - ctrl + g
01:52:475 (1) - add clap the end of the slider
01:55:165 (4) - stack on 01:55:579 (1) ?
02:05:303 (3) - move x268 y168,make blanket with 02:05:924 (5)
02:42:544 (4) - ctrl + g?
02:47:717 (7) - how about x300 y320?
02:54:337 (1,2) - the pattern like 01:08:406 (1) is better imo
03:00:958 (4) - stack on 03:01:372 (1)
03:01:165 (5) - remove
03:16:475 (6) - i think it is bad flow.move changed a bit



[Hard]
AR-1
01:39:027 (1) - remove nah i want to keep this one
01:39:440 (1) - add clap?
02:08:820 (3) - add clap the end of the slider
02:12:544 (3) - add clap the beginning of the slider


good luck ! XD

• 1. I actually looked at the same song 2 years ago, and that map had the title in caps. I did a quick search, and it seems that the proper title is indeed in all caps.
  2. Consider shortening the video to save space? Your mapping ends 03:09:243 - at the end of the last kiai here, leaving 30 extra seconds of video.
  3. 03:20:819 (3) - The break beginning here does not fit. The music continues to build up, indicating that you should map it, and the break leaves the ending too weak; additionally, pkmnyab mapped this part out. You don't want that inconsistency.
  [*]03:09:233 - There is a weird break here that should not exist. I specified in the Insane mod.
  
  [Hard]
  • 1. Perhaps it's just me, but I think HP6 might be a bit high for a low BPM Hard? I'd try HP5.
    2. 00:05:096 (4) - The difference of this slider from the rest turns that pattern from an interesting pattern into regular ugly partial overlaps.
    3. 00:05:510 (1) - The different spacing between 4 and this compared to the other sliders in 4's pattern is a real turn-off.
    4. 00:06:131 (2) - In a hard this 2 overlapped on the previous 4 really looks bad and probably plays bad too.
    5. 00:25:372 (5) - The spacing really makes it look like this 5 should be played as a 1/2 gap from the previous slider.
    6. 00:47:924 (5,6) - I don't know why you spaced these further from 4 when they are close together. The song doesn't change drastically the merit that.
    7. 01:04:268 (4,1) - The 1 reaaaally does not look nice.
    8. 01:05:924 (3) - I've refrained from commenting on most of these, but the 3 really should be leading in more directionally from the 2, like this. The method I posted seems to work with 1 as well. Be on the lookout for other problems like this that I didn't point out.
    9. 01:36:544 (1) - Not as bad as other instances but this miiiiight cause problems like playing it as 1/2.
    10. 01:44:819 (4,1,2,3,4) - This part honestly looks like it would be played all 1/2.
    11. 02:01:372 (1) - Spacing alert! That type of structure is commonly used to have a larger jump at the end, which would trick the player into playing that as 1/2! Either space it farther or make it a complete overlap under 4.
    12. 02:16:889 (2,3,4) - I really have no clue how wise this is...
        
    13. 02:41:717 (2,3,4,1) - Make this standardized polygons, so more like this, as in so the end of 2 also makes a triangle with 3 and 4.
    14. 02:50:200 (1) - Another spacing issue, this 1 would be played like 1/2.
    15. 03:33:647 (4) - Space this out, that slider is really dysfunctional with such a strong overlap and it won't hurt (it will help) to break DS for this.
    
    [Insane]
    • 1. 00:03:855 (1) - Ctrl+G. Flows better with earlier pattern and works nicely with next slider.
      2. 00:04:682 (3,4) - Also consider using Ctrl+G on these two as well.
      3. 00:05:096 (4) - This would look better spaced closer to 3, as the other 3 sliders before it are like that. See what I mean? (the 4 slider in question is selected) It looks like you improved this after I wrote this (this was earlier when I was modding this) but it looks like 4 could still be a bit closer.
      4. 00:08:406 (4) - Ctrl+G on this? I use this technique a lot too, and you used the Ctrl+G on 2, so it's kind of imbalanced without it on 4. Looks like you fixed this via someone else's mod as this was one of my older suggestions before I ran out of time, but below mod still applies.
      5. 00:08:819 (1,2) - If you accepted above suggestion, Ctrl+G these for better feel. Wow ok you changed that part up.
      6. 00:27:863 (3) - This spacing is extremely misleading, it's literally spaced the exact same distance between earlier 1/2 and mentioned 1/1. Space this out further away somewhere it can be properly spaced, please.
      7. 00:28:682 (1) - Misleading spacing like above until you fixed that.
      8. 00:30:337 (6,1) - The 1 looks a bit weird with the 6 breathing on its neck.
      9. 00:32:612 (6,1) - Same problem as above, the jumps you had right before make the player think this should be played immediately as 1/2.
      10. 00:41:717 (5,2) - The 5 and 2 overlapping is just kinda icky.
      11. 01:21:234 (4) - Why do this back again? Why not just make it a nice, complete pattern and continue the clockwise rotation instead of that ugly, awkward perpendicular return overlap?
      12. 01:55:578 (1) - This misleading spacing is a huge no-no.
      13. 02:03:027 (6,7,8) - This pattern looks a bit off with each slider, could be improved.
      14. 02:13:579 (4,5) - The blanket is off (see this)
      15. 02:48:131 (1) - This spacing might be a bit misleading, considering the spacing and direction of the jumps before it.
      16. 02:53:924 (5) - I don't like this being spaced farther than the other 3 sliders in the pattern.
      17. 03:09:233 - Starting from this point on the pause is extremely awkward. I would suggest having a rhythm that looks like this (the combo right after the spinner is what I suggest adding). You would of course have to raise the volume.
      [/list]
      
      Wow, you really got some nice mods for me to have had to cross out so many points.
      Again, I'm really sorry for being unable to finish it.
      Good luck.

No Dap wrote:

Tell me the secret Kibbleruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

secret of making good maps

13:25 Kibbleru: wb o3o
13:26 Zero__wind: hi, I'm fine now
13:26 Kibbleru: hm do we get started o-o?
13:26 Zero__wind: let me update first
13:27 Zero__wind: ok
13:27 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359869 DECO*27 feat. Aoi Yuki - Heart's Homing Instinct [Insane]]
13:27 Zero__wind: let's see
13:28 Kibbleru: oh god o3o
13:29 Zero__wind: oh god, just ease
13:29 Zero__wind: 00:37:371 - missing clap
13:30 Zero__wind: also 00:39:026 - and 00:39:854 -
13:30 Kibbleru: lol whoops
13:30 Zero__wind: and 00:43:164 -
13:30 Zero__wind: eh I though it was rare but seems there're many lol
13:30 Kibbleru: lol
13:30 Kibbleru: its just that
13:31 Kibbleru: every time i change pattern or something
13:31 Kibbleru: i keep forgetting to add in the hitsounds
13:31 Kibbleru: again
13:31 Kibbleru: lol
13:31 Zero__wind: I see
13:31 Zero__wind: self check is important, plz always remember
13:31 Kibbleru: kk
13:32 Zero__wind: 01:58:475 - and some more
13:32 Zero__wind: 01:59:302 -
13:32 Kibbleru: ill go through it later to fix up any missing hitsounds lol
13:32 Kibbleru: ah got that one already
13:33 Zero__wind: I'm just going through the diff
13:33 Zero__wind: I need to have a full view of it first
13:33 Kibbleru: ah
13:33 Kibbleru: ill try to find any missing hitsounds
13:33 Zero__wind: 02:54:337 - finish
13:34 Zero__wind: and 02:54:750 - clap
13:34 Kibbleru: k
13:35 Zero__wind: ok, now we could go again from the start
13:35 Zero__wind: first I got a question to ask about
13:35 Kibbleru: mhm?
13:36 Zero__wind: can you still remember how you arranged the rhythm for the preface?
13:36 Zero__wind: I mean, from the start till 00:15:441 (1) -
13:36 Kibbleru: hmm
13:36 Zero__wind: just try to express what you thought when mapping it
13:36 Kibbleru: kinda
13:36 Kibbleru: actualy
13:36 Kibbleru: not sure lol
13:36 Zero__wind: ok
13:37 Zero__wind: so this is the problem
13:37 Zero__wind: when you're making a map, and you're not sure what you're actually doing, that means it's not good
13:37 Kibbleru: mhm?
13:38 Zero__wind: so let me explain what I mean by this
13:39 Zero__wind: first, you need to grab what's happing in the music, how the drums are working, and also about other instruments, no matter what they are
13:39 Zero__wind: for your song, the drums are just simple as you see
13:39 Kibbleru: yep
13:40 Zero__wind: so in this case, we're more often focusing some other more unique things, right?
13:40 Kibbleru: mhm
13:40 Zero__wind: otherwise all maps could be the same if with all 1/2 beats
13:41 Kibbleru: yes
13:41 Zero__wind: so for the preface, you could rather try to go with the melody instead of drum instead
13:42 Zero__wind: let me call it keyboard sound
13:42 Zero__wind: I don't what instrument it should be
13:42 Kibbleru: ah
13:43 Zero__wind: so let's take an example from the start
13:43 Zero__wind: 00:02:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
13:43 Kibbleru: k
13:43 Zero__wind: I would arrange the rhythm differently, like http://puu.sh/7otd7.jpg
13:44 Zero__wind: the difference is between 00:02:612 (2,3) -
13:44 Kibbleru: hmm
13:45 Kibbleru: can u explain a bit as to why you would use a circle though o3o
13:45 Zero__wind: yeah sure
13:46 Zero__wind: starting from 00:02:199 - , then at 00:02:406 - , and then 00:02:612 - , till 00:02:819 - , there're four different tones of that "keyboard sound" can you get them?
13:47 Kibbleru: yes
13:47 Zero__wind: and when comparing, you could see that the one from 00:02:819 - is longer?
13:47 Zero__wind: while there's not a new tone at 00:03:026 -
13:48 Kibbleru: hm i see
13:50 Zero__wind: so that's what I'm trying to achieve, by stating a slider from 00:02:819 -
13:50 Kibbleru: i see
13:50 Zero__wind: so that's the difference between my rhythm and yours
13:51 Zero__wind: and in this way, your rhythm won't be like consistent 1/2 in pairs all the way
13:51 Kibbleru: i see
13:51 Zero__wind: let's try something similar with 00:03:855 (1,2,3,4) -
13:53 Zero__wind: for these, it would be really interesting if you replace 00:03:855 (1) - with two circles, and replace 00:04:682 (3) - with two circles
13:54 Zero__wind: in this way, the shorter tones and the longer tones would have difference in between
13:54 Kibbleru: i can see why with (3) but why (1) o-o
13:54 Zero__wind: it's really the same
13:55 Zero__wind: there're two different tones at 00:03:854 - and 00:04:061 -
13:55 Kibbleru: i cant really hear any tone change with (1) though o-o
13:55 Kibbleru: hmm Oo
13:55 Zero__wind: the one at 00:04:061 - is with low pitch
13:55 Zero__wind: but don't you ignore that
13:55 Kibbleru: i hear that with (2) as well though
13:56 Kibbleru: hm
13:56 Kibbleru: actualy nvm
13:57 Kibbleru: hm
13:57 Kibbleru: how doul i arrange this :X
13:57 Kibbleru: it feels awkward having 2 normally spaced circles after a jump lol
13:57 Zero__wind: hmm
13:57 Zero__wind: you can stack them
13:58 Kibbleru: guess that works
13:58 Zero__wind: common spacing is also ok, as long as they're leading the same flow from the jump
13:58 Zero__wind: ok
13:59 Zero__wind: if you tried to stack them, then it would be like two stacked circles and a 1/2 slider following
13:59 Zero__wind: and that's a pair
13:59 Zero__wind: and from 00:04:681 - , it's the other one
14:01 Kibbleru: hm hows something like this http://puu.sh/7ouvg.jpg
14:01 Kibbleru: fk puush still down
14:01 Zero__wind: I mean that, the first two stacks and the slider is 123, and the second group of stacks with slider is 456
14:01 Zero__wind: and you should try to make them match with each other
14:02 Kibbleru: they stack on the slider?
14:02 Zero__wind: no
14:02 Kibbleru: k
14:02 Kibbleru: something like this?
14:02 Kibbleru: http://gyazo.com/ef6ef02edf8700a9caed6ec69ad5114d
14:02 Zero__wind: oh no why the puush image is dead and dead and dead today
14:03 Zero__wind: I was really disturber
14:03 Kibbleru: yah gunna use gyazo xD
14:03 Zero__wind: disturbed
14:03 Kibbleru: yah puush seems to be buggy today :u
14:03 Kibbleru: does the gyazo link work?
14:04 Zero__wind: sadly, no
14:04 Zero__wind: idk if it's my problem
14:04 Kibbleru: hm
14:05 Kibbleru: ah ill just describe it
14:05 Kibbleru: 00:03:854 (1,2) - stacked
14:05 Kibbleru: then 00:04:268 (3) -
14:05 Kibbleru: then 00:04:681 (4,5) - stacked
14:05 Kibbleru: then 00:05:095 (6) -
14:05 Zero__wind: yes right
14:05 Zero__wind: this is basical
14:05 Zero__wind: and what I'm trying to tell is that
14:05 Zero__wind: 456 could correspond to 123
14:06 Zero__wind: this may be a symmetrical pattern or any
14:06 Kibbleru: basically what i did i i copied 123 copied, and did ctrl hj
14:06 Kibbleru: oops said copied twice
14:06 Zero__wind: yes
14:06 Kibbleru: is
14:06 Zero__wind: you're just doing it right, exaaaaaactly
14:07 Kibbleru: i suppose i follow the same rhythm for the rest of the part?
14:07 Zero__wind: not forcing symmetry for any sake, but it's only because that make sense for this kind of case
14:07 Kibbleru: yah
14:07 Zero__wind: yeah
14:07 Kibbleru: its looks kinda nice in this case xD
14:08 Zero__wind: it's also ok that you change for some time
14:08 Zero__wind: to have some variety
14:08 Zero__wind: like 00:10:889 (2) -
14:08 Zero__wind: it's good
14:08 Kibbleru: thats fine o3o?
14:08 Kibbleru: mmk
14:08 Zero__wind: but I hope they were organized
14:08 Kibbleru: yah lol
14:09 Zero__wind: eh, but I don't really mean a 1/1 slider at that point
14:09 Kibbleru: oh
14:09 Zero__wind: I would rather prefer using a 1/1 from 00:06:130 -
14:09 Zero__wind: of course a circle at 00:05:923 -
14:11 Zero__wind: oh wow
14:11 Zero__wind: I suddenly noticed that
14:11 Zero__wind: all of your notes was 1ms off from correct
14:11 Kibbleru: o-o
14:11 Kibbleru: o_O
14:12 Kibbleru: wut
14:12 Kibbleru: how did
14:12 Kibbleru: like unsnapped?
14:12 Zero__wind: that may happen after some timing change
14:12 Kibbleru: or is the offset wrong
14:12 Zero__wind: unsnapped
14:12 Kibbleru: oh
14:12 Kibbleru: hmm i checked the boxes
14:12 Kibbleru: maybe it bugged out a bit lol
14:12 Zero__wind: just drag them all together on the time line
14:13 Kibbleru: would that snap it?
14:13 Zero__wind: well, won't be a big problem, I think
14:13 Kibbleru: all?
14:13 Zero__wind: assume that
14:13 Kibbleru: k i just ctrl a and moved it a bit
14:13 Kibbleru: lol
14:13 Zero__wind: all of the notes were off
14:13 Zero__wind: and that would work I think
14:15 Zero__wind: it's like when you already have a slider at 00:09:233 (2) - , and I want to set a circle here to replace it, but after I throw the circle down, the slider didn't appear
14:15 Zero__wind: so I noticed that the original slider was off
14:15 Zero__wind: no
14:15 Kibbleru: ah
14:15 Zero__wind: didn't disappear*
14:16 Kibbleru: ah idk what to make for a pattern here00:07:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
14:16 Kibbleru: it would be boring to make another symmetrical thing right
14:16 Zero__wind: ok let's go on and see
14:17 Zero__wind: ok I have some ideas
14:17 Zero__wind: eh
14:18 Zero__wind: I think it's just fine to use 4 sliders lol
14:18 Kibbleru: o-o
14:18 Kibbleru: lol
14:19 Zero__wind: and it would be good if they correspoind to each other
14:19 Zero__wind: and then for 00:09:233 (2,3) - , it's like 00:02:612 (2,3) -
14:20 Zero__wind: also 00:12:130 (1) - is a good way to arrange
14:20 Zero__wind: but still you should better start a slider from 00:12:750 -
14:21 Kibbleru: mmk
14:26 Kibbleru: is this rhythm fine? 00:11:510 (4,5,6) -
14:26 Zero__wind: it's ok
14:26 Zero__wind: then you got every time different
14:30 Kibbleru: alright im done up to here 00:13:888 -
14:30 Zero__wind: ok good
14:31 Zero__wind: from where there's vocal, I found the rhythm fine
14:32 Zero__wind: 00:20:406 (2,3,4,5,6) - these are good
14:32 Zero__wind: it really goes well with the guitar
14:33 Zero__wind: still good at 00:25:372 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) -
14:33 Kibbleru: 00:13:786 (1,2,3) - these random triplets are not fine right lol
14:33 Kibbleru: i think i have a general idea of what i need to change
14:33 Kibbleru: i should make sliders where the guitar plays right
14:33 Kibbleru: ie here 00:18:544 (1,2) -
14:33 Zero__wind: but 00:34:475 (5,6) -
14:34 Zero__wind: yeah you grabbed it
14:34 Zero__wind: it would be good if you swap 00:18:544 (1,2) -
14:34 Kibbleru: yah i c what to fix
14:35 Zero__wind: then you'll know what to do to 00:34:475 (5,6) -
14:35 Zero__wind: quite similar, right?
14:35 Kibbleru: 00:39:026 (2,3) - here too i suppose?
14:35 Kibbleru: yah i get it
14:35 Zero__wind: yes
14:35 Zero__wind: don't let 00:39:026 (2) - reverse
14:35 Kibbleru: yep
14:35 Kibbleru: i swapped the circle and slider around xD
14:36 Kibbleru: mmk
14:36 Kibbleru: but
14:36 Zero__wind: ya
14:36 Kibbleru: 00:13:786 (1,2,3) - should i change these o-o?
14:36 Zero__wind: ok these
14:36 Zero__wind: better do
14:36 Kibbleru: honestly idk why i made them triplets lol
14:36 Zero__wind: yeah, they don't really make sense
14:38 Zero__wind: and these are almost what you need to do until the kiai
14:39 Kibbleru: ah k
14:39 Zero__wind: then we'll have a look at the kiai part
14:40 Kibbleru: ill get rid of the weird triplets too lol
14:40 Zero__wind: yes
14:40 Zero__wind: 00:59:303 (2,3) -
14:40 Zero__wind: maybe swap the rhythm I think
14:40 Zero__wind: it goes better with the vocal
14:41 Zero__wind: and 01:00:337 (5,6,7) - 'are not fitting well
14:41 Zero__wind: 00:59:924 (4,5,6,7) - , you really should have 3 sliders for the "de" , "na" and "i"
14:42 Zero__wind: and circles instead for 01:01:165 (8) -
14:43 Kibbleru: hang on still on 00:59:303 (2) - lol
14:45 Zero__wind: the "shi" at 00:59:302 - is short
14:45 Zero__wind: better with a circle imo
14:46 Zero__wind: and start slider from 00:59:509 - for "nan"
14:47 Kibbleru: mk
14:47 Kibbleru: i just randomly placed them down for now gunna work on placement later xD
14:48 Zero__wind: yeah
14:48 Kibbleru: so for the kiai do we focus on the vocals o-o?
14:48 Zero__wind: 01:03:441 (1,2,3,4) - these make sense
14:48 Zero__wind: it's fine if you do so
14:49 Zero__wind: because from 00:55:164 - , it would be the same as preface if you don't
14:49 Kibbleru: ic
14:49 Zero__wind: and for parts like 01:02:200 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
14:50 Zero__wind: the background track is NOT really clear to follow
14:50 Zero__wind: that also means that the one who wroted this song wanted us to focus more on the vocal
14:51 Kibbleru: but for like the longer held notes is it fine to map out some drum beats there cuz i don't want to have like very long sliders on insane
14:51 Zero__wind: yes
14:51 Kibbleru: 01:17:510 (3,4,5,6) - example
14:51 Zero__wind: at some gaps where vocal is longer than 1/1
14:52 Zero__wind: or at points where there's no vocal
14:52 Zero__wind: ah
14:52 Zero__wind: these are also fine
14:52 Kibbleru: hmm ic
14:53 Zero__wind: though the placement of 01:18:337 (1) - isn't vevry nice lol
14:53 Zero__wind: this is another topic =.=
14:53 Kibbleru: i agree haha
14:53 Kibbleru: idk why but my beats always end up off the screen =w=
14:53 Zero__wind: it's mostly because 01:17:510 (3,4,5,6) -
14:53 Zero__wind: are leading a strong anti-clockwise flow
14:54 Zero__wind: while the trail from 01:17:510 (3) - to 01:18:337 (1) - 's head is not leading that
14:54 Kibbleru: i get it
14:54 Kibbleru: so would it be better to get rid of the reverse?
14:55 Zero__wind: no
14:55 Kibbleru: k i dont get it then lol
14:55 Zero__wind: I think the most simple sollution is to move 01:18:131 (6) - to (160,272)
14:55 Kibbleru: oh nvm
14:55 Kibbleru: i get it
14:55 Zero__wind: of course you could have you other ideas
14:56 Zero__wind: I'm just bring up the issues
15:03 Zero__wind: I checked other parts then, and mostly similar problems
15:04 Kibbleru: mmk
15:04 Kibbleru: i will go through everything
15:04 Kibbleru: is this still only on the insane diff though?
15:04 Kibbleru: what about hard o3o
15:04 Zero__wind: yeah, like 01:37:993 (4,5) - and 01:40:682 (1,2,3) - and so on
15:04 Zero__wind: I know you could handle them on your own
15:05 Zero__wind: still some small things in Insane
15:05 Zero__wind: like removing clap from 02:13:786 (5) - 's head
15:05 Kibbleru: mmk
15:05 Zero__wind: and also remove 02:24:544 (1,3,1,3) - 's claps, I think they don't sound nice
15:06 Zero__wind: the band starts again from 02:27:855 (1) -
15:06 Zero__wind: not before it
15:06 Kibbleru: ic
15:07 Zero__wind: and could you plz remove those bodywhistles?
15:07 Kibbleru: when im done fixing what i can would u mind coming back for a recheck o3o
15:07 Zero__wind: is that intended?
15:07 Zero__wind: I really hate them
15:07 Kibbleru: bodywhistles o-o?
15:07 Kibbleru: oh
15:07 Kibbleru: un
15:07 Kibbleru: um
15:07 Zero__wind: 02:14:613 (1,1,4,1) -
15:07 Kibbleru: how lmao
15:07 Kibbleru: oh those
15:07 Kibbleru: nvm
15:07 Zero__wind: intended?
15:07 Kibbleru: i thought u meant like the slider sound
15:08 Zero__wind: yes
15:08 Zero__wind: I mean that
15:08 Zero__wind: ssssssssssssssssssssssss sound
15:08 Kibbleru: hmm
15:08 Zero__wind: 02:19:372 (1,2) -
15:08 Zero__wind: and so on
15:08 Kibbleru: do i
15:08 Kibbleru: how do i get rid of tha ;w;
15:08 Zero__wind: it would be ok if you'd really want to keep them
15:08 Kibbleru: do i use a silent custom hitsound?
15:09 Zero__wind: I'm just so fed up with that
15:09 Zero__wind: silent what
15:09 Kibbleru: wait are we talking about the same thing here lol
15:09 Zero__wind: no I think
15:09 Kibbleru: do u mean the whistle u add by pressing w or like
15:09 Kibbleru: the
15:09 Zero__wind: w
15:09 Kibbleru: slidersound itself
15:09 Kibbleru: the little drumroll
15:09 Kibbleru: oh ok
15:09 Kibbleru: alright
15:10 Zero__wind: select 02:19:372 (1) - with your mouse
15:10 Zero__wind: and you'll see the whistle icon on the right is bright
15:10 Kibbleru: yah ik what u mean now xD
15:10 Zero__wind: and would you plz deactivate that
15:10 Kibbleru: k i will
15:11 Zero__wind: it's good that you use whistles on both 02:19:372 (1) - 's head and tail
15:11 Zero__wind: but plz not body
15:11 Kibbleru: wait a sec Oo
15:11 Kibbleru: when you select a slider
15:12 Zero__wind: there are many, in the soft part, from 02:14:613 (1) -
15:12 Zero__wind: yeah
15:12 Kibbleru: normaly
15:12 Kibbleru: when you select a slider normal
15:12 Kibbleru: so both ends are orange
15:12 Kibbleru: it adds a different kind of whistle Oo?
15:12 Kibbleru: like
15:12 Zero__wind: soft sliderbody whistles is different
15:12 Zero__wind: you could have a try with 100% volume
15:12 Zero__wind: that would be more apparent
15:13 Kibbleru: if just selected 02:19:372 (1) -
15:13 Kibbleru: and pressed w
15:13 Kibbleru: it would be different than selecting 02:19:372 (1) - 's head and tail individually and pressing w?
15:13 Kibbleru: like both
15:13 Zero__wind: yes
15:13 Zero__wind: different, totally
15:13 Kibbleru: oh shiet o-o
15:13 Kibbleru: i did not know that
15:13 Kibbleru: lol
15:13 Kibbleru: i thought it would just automatically add a whistle at the head and tail
15:13 Kibbleru: wow learning new stuff everyday lol
15:14 Zero__wind: if you add whistle to the slider directly, when there's no any other hitsounds on it, there would be whistles on both head&tail and also body
15:14 Zero__wind: but moooooooooost time, we don't want that body one
15:14 Kibbleru: ic
15:15 Zero__wind: so when you're gonna add whistles to both head and tail of a slider, plz do them seperately
15:15 Zero__wind: so now you know, and I'lm thinking that there might be simiar problems in all your diffs
15:15 Kibbleru: kk xD
15:15 Zero__wind: plz be considerate and deal with them on
15:15 Zero__wind: them all *
15:16 Zero__wind: ok then, next topic
15:16 Zero__wind: 02:39:234 (1) - , it would just play better if you replace it with two circles
15:17 Kibbleru: hmm i got that suggestion before but i dont really see why o-o
15:17 Zero__wind: on two hands
15:18 Zero__wind: on one hand for playability
15:19 Zero__wind: starting streams after a 1/2 slider simply sucks at most times
15:19 Zero__wind: ACC breaker
15:19 Zero__wind: on the other hand, to make sense with the music
15:20 Kibbleru: ah
15:20 Zero__wind: it's good that you noticed that from 02:37:786 (1) - , the drum in the music is getting more intensive
15:20 Zero__wind: and you did it right to use coherent circles to express
15:21 Zero__wind: and in this case, there simply should be a 8 at 02:39:233 - to join the group of 02:38:613 (5,6,7) - and match with 02:37:786 (1,2,3,4) -
15:22 Zero__wind: and from 02:39:440 - , it's a new stanza, from where the drums get even more intensive than 02:37:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ,which became a stream
15:23 Zero__wind: so they are just seperate different things, and should not be confounded with a 1/2 slider
15:23 Kibbleru: ic
15:28 Zero__wind: omgggggg, puush woks for me again, plz see (this)[http://puu.sh/7ozs5.jpg]
15:28 Kibbleru: oh sweet puush is up
15:28 Kibbleru: hmm
15:29 Zero__wind: this is for referrence only
15:29 Kibbleru: thats a good pattern
15:29 Zero__wind: or you could have 1234 straight, and 5678 stragith, also fine
15:30 Zero__wind: this is just what I mean by saying 5678 and 1234 should correspond to each other
15:31 Kibbleru: http://puu.sh/7ozBE.jpg yah i get what u mean
15:31 Kibbleru: is that good?
15:31 Zero__wind: of course
15:31 Zero__wind: just fine
15:31 Zero__wind: ok next topic then
15:31 Zero__wind: last one for Insane
15:31 Zero__wind: about 03:07:579 (1) -
15:32 Zero__wind: I would really prefer you throw this away and map this part with circles&sliders
15:32 Kibbleru: mhm
15:32 Kibbleru: hmm
15:32 Kibbleru: ok
15:32 Zero__wind: the music is simply different from 01:21:648 (1) -
15:32 Kibbleru: yah
15:33 Zero__wind: there're many interesting and detailed things startin from 03:07:578 -
15:33 Zero__wind: you should appreciate them
15:33 Kibbleru: mmk
15:33 Zero__wind: that's all for Insane
15:34 Kibbleru: im gunna assume its similar for the other difficulties lol
15:35 Kibbleru: lol the reason that spinner is there is cuz i originaly had the song end there
15:35 Kibbleru: then ppl told me to map the rest
15:37 Zero__wind: yeah, viewing the Hard
15:37 Zero__wind: difficulty spread is good,
15:37 Zero__wind: flow is good
15:38 Kibbleru: rhythm probably isnt good
15:38 Zero__wind: plz improve the rhythm with what you've leanred just now
15:38 Zero__wind: yes
15:38 Zero__wind: and after that, make the objects align better
15:39 Kibbleru: mk
15:39 Zero__wind: I mean, to make the map looks neater by saying that align
15:39 Kibbleru: hmm what do u mean by align? like the blankets and stuff?
15:40 Zero__wind: and it contains things mostly about consistency
15:40 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/358606 DECO*27 feat. Aoi Yuki - Heart's Homing Instinct [Hard]]
15:40 Zero__wind: take some examples
15:40 Zero__wind: slider shapes
15:40 Kibbleru: k
15:40 Zero__wind: it would be good if you avoid making 1/2 sliders too curved like this
15:41 Kibbleru: 00:03:855 (1) - o3o?
15:41 Zero__wind: yes
15:41 Zero__wind: 00:03:855 (1) -
15:41 Zero__wind: eh why haven't I copied that lol
15:41 Zero__wind: baka me
15:42 Zero__wind: then, some slider shapes could improoved, 00:10:475 (1) -
15:42 Zero__wind: http://puu.sh/7oA9A.jpg
15:43 Zero__wind: but gah, I'm bad at drawing sliders, plz do better than me
15:43 Kibbleru: lol
15:45 Zero__wind: all kinds of decorating work like these
15:45 Zero__wind: it's like polishing a newly-made draft
15:45 Zero__wind: poor network lol
15:45 Kibbleru: wb o-o?
15:45 Zero__wind: poor network lol
15:46 Kibbleru: wait did u get what i said?
15:46 Zero__wind: nothing, I just said that there're plenty of similar work of this kind
15:46 Zero__wind: like polishing a newly-made draft
15:46 Zero__wind: to make it LOOK better
15:47 Kibbleru: ah
15:47 Kibbleru: but question; when a slider has more than one tone lol..
15:47 Kibbleru: 00:02:199 (1) -
15:47 Zero__wind: yes?
15:47 Kibbleru: how would i do the rhythm
15:47 Zero__wind: it's just fine
15:47 Kibbleru: originally what i thought for 00:02:199 (1) - is the pitch is increasing so i would make one slider for that
15:47 Kibbleru: does that make sense? Oo
15:48 Zero__wind: using 1/1 s to cover too frequent 1/2 beats in Hard diff is common
15:48 Zero__wind: well, I don't mean that's TOO frequent though
15:49 Kibbleru: but like how would i know when to do that and when not to thats basically what im asking xD
15:49 Zero__wind: being more important, you need to avoid rhythm like 00:06:131 (2,3) -
15:49 Kibbleru: hmm what's the problem with that one o3o
15:50 Zero__wind: http://puu.sh/7oArI.jpg
15:51 Zero__wind: bugged two objects together
15:51 Zero__wind: http://puu.sh/7oAug.jpg
15:51 Zero__wind: this is correct
15:52 Kibbleru: ahhhaa that makes sense
15:52 Zero__wind: yes I mostly mean this kind of problems in the diff
15:53 Zero__wind: and for 00:03:855 (1,2,3,4) -
15:53 Zero__wind: it's ok that you make them seperate, I think that looks better
15:53 Kibbleru: u mean ignoring DS?
15:54 Zero__wind: as sliders have their leniency, distance usage between sliders is with looser restriction
15:54 Zero__wind: yes, or maybe a bit bigger ds between sliders
15:55 Zero__wind: but remember, this only applies from Hard diff and on
15:55 Zero__wind: you should keep ds anyway when mapping Easy or Normal
15:56 Kibbleru: 00:07:165 (1,2,3,4) - what about this one
15:56 Zero__wind: same
15:56 Zero__wind: could make them seperate
15:56 Zero__wind: and why is 00:07:165 (1) - pointing the opposite side
15:56 Kibbleru: k
15:58 Zero__wind: hos easy it is to draw a siingle slider and copy paste it over n' over again
15:58 Zero__wind: http://puu.sh/7oAKp.jpg
15:58 Zero__wind: possible sollution ↑
15:58 Kibbleru: idk i thought it would look nice lmao
15:58 Zero__wind: of course you could something different
15:59 Kibbleru: so its mainly just the rhythm right
16:00 Zero__wind: yes
16:00 Zero__wind: and decorate it after making rhythm fine
16:00 Kibbleru: k
16:00 Zero__wind: pokishing work is always important, although there're always just small things
16:00 Zero__wind: polishing*
16:01 Zero__wind: but still plz remember, that was the last step of mapping
16:01 Zero__wind: you should have your map mostly ok, and polish it afterwards
16:01 Kibbleru: mmk
16:02 Zero__wind: hmm let me think
16:02 Zero__wind: nothing else
16:02 Kibbleru: mmk
16:02 Zero__wind: just refer to the log for Insane, mostly similar problem, also for those whistles and blahblahblah
16:02 Zero__wind: will post in the thread
16:02 Kibbleru: okie :3
16:03 Kibbleru: alright
16:03 Kibbleru: tyvm!

Lust wrote:

pkmnyab's Normal

1. 00:07:993 (5,1) - This blanket is a bit off, try and have it so the circle is blanketed evenly on both sides! fixed
2. 00:25:372 (1,2) - Blanket is a bit off here as wellfixed
3. 00:40:268 (5,1,2) - This is a lot to click in a short amount of time. Almost confusing! Players will not be expecting to click this many times. Especially with a stack as well! It would be best if you would unstack the circle and slider, at least that will clear up some of the confusion fixed, turned circle+slider into repeat slider
4. 00:53:510 (1) - Lower the volume of this spinner's end so that it creates a nice fade. Just create a new green line and set it to soft sampleset with 5% volume done
5. 01:19:993 (1) - This slider seems a bit out of place, would be best if you had just a simple three point curve slider in its place fixed
6. 01:20:820 (2,3,4) - Instead of a triangle, have the circles create a curve in to the breakfixed
7. 02:39:027 (3,4) - Blanket can be improved herefixed
8. 02:40:268 (5,6,1) - Confusing pattern! stacked it under (4) instead, should be clearer now
9. 03:21:233 (2,3,4) - I would advise having a stack of two or more replaced hitcircles with a slider

Lust wrote:

Zexous asked me to finish the mod on his behalf
I actually tried mapping this song myself a looong time ago, probably around the time I started mapping in fact

since this mod is so long im just gunna state what i didnt fix and why lol

General

(Note that some may only apply to easy and normal)

1. The quality of the video is kind of blah, try and find a new one?
2. The correct title is HEART's HOMING INSTINCT (i know, because I tried this song out too :3)
3. Add kissou honnou to the tags
4. Some hitsounds are a bit too loud and overwhelming, check back through the mapset to see if you can spot any in particular
5. The combos are all over the place, try and keep them consistent!

Easy

Well here we go!

1. 00:02:199 (1) - I highly suggest you do not have such a strong sound as a slider tick. Slider ticks encompass passive hitsounding (you are not hitting on them), which should be effectively a tad weaker than the hit objects you do hit (active hitsounds)
2. 00:04:682 (4) - This can better blanket 00:03:855 (2) - 's hitburst
3. 00:02:199 (1,2,3,4) - This is a very confusing pattern to have. You see because of the low AR, (4) appears before (3) is even hit, and if you follow the flow coming from the beginning slider, it leads down to (4)! (3) is a little off to the side and hard to see, and the way it stands now the flow is kind of awkward. Try changing the pattern up a bit, or you can try stacking (3) on top of (4)
4. 00:04:682 (4,1,2) - Now this is also a tad confusing, (2) was stacked underneath (4)'s slider end and hitburst, no way will an easy player be expecting something like that. You can move that hit circle to the end of the slider and then adjust the following pattern accordingly. However if you do not follow this suggestion, please at least fix the blanket between 00:05:510 (1,2) - . You can use (2)'s approach circle to help you in fixing this! If you are lazy to do that, you can just move the slider endpoint to 256:352
5. 00:07:579 (4,5) - This blanket is slightly off. However, I would put a better curve on the slider, it will look better
6. 00:10:062 (2,3) - This blanket is also slightly off at the beginning.
7. 00:07:993 (5,1) - Weird flow here. You go down with (5) and then back up with (1)'s repeat. You can move (1) down and have it blanket 00:10:062 (2) - instead seems fine to me :I (5)'s flow is going into the next slider
8. 00:15:855 (2,3) - Blanket is off
9. 00:15:441 (1,2) - Eh linear flow is kind of uninteresting, try putting a curve in in the path of these circles
10. 00:17:924 (1,2) - (2) isn't adequately blanketing (1)'s slider end. You can ctrl+g (1) and use its approach circle to help in fixing this
11. 00:23:717 (2) - Move this to 82:127 so that its slider end stacks with 00:22:062 (4) - 's hitburst perfectly
12. 00:24:544 (3,1) - Check spacing
13. 00:25:372 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders seem kind of randomly placed. Try this pattern or something similar to spice things up a bit! Note I put this to AR0 so you can see what is going on all in one screenshot.
    
    example

    
    After that I had (3) blanket (4)'s slider which was also doing the same rotation thing. Be sure to adjust the following pattern so that it can fit something like this
14. 00:31:579 (1,2) - (Nazi) This blanket is a bit off
15. 00:33:648 (2,3,1) - Another random bunch of sliders, try and form them in to nice patterns! 00:34:475 (3) - I actually suggest you move this slider down and invert the curve so that it avoids the small overlap with 00:36:544 (3) - .
16. 00:36:544 (3,4) - More weird flow, you go down with the circles before the slider and then go back up with the slider. You can try something like this
    
    example

    
17. 00:42:751 (2,3,4) - Confusing pattern, the flow from the starting slider leads to (4), and not (3)! This will throw players off expecting (3) to be in (4)'s place
18. 00:45:233 (1) - Whoa weird out of place slider shape, just use a regular three point slider curve on this. The way how it is now is kind of (for lack of a better word sorry) ugly. I know its going to blanket 00:46:889 (3) - 's slider shape but its way too far in the time line for it to be noticeable
19. 00:45:233 (1,2) - Huge jump! Try and keep it 1.00x spacing. Don't manipulate spacing to fit a pattern, manipulate spacing to fit the song!
20. 00:48:544 (1,2) - You can form these sliders better
21. 00:49:372 (2,3) - have (2) blanket (3)'s slider end and vice versa
22. 00:51:441 (5,1) - Blanket is really off here
23. 00:53:510 (3) - To cover all the beats, you can extend the slider to 00:54:337
24. 00:54:337 (4,5) - Overmapping, there is really no beat to follow here, so you can remove these notes. hmm i disagree
25. 01:04:682 (3,1) - Blanket is a bit off here
26. 01:13:372 (1,2) - ^
27. 01:15:441 (1) - You can use this slider shape to blanket 01:16:682 (2) - !
28. 01:18:337 (1) - I would move this over a bit more so that its not too close to 01:16:682 (2) - . Then adjust the spacing in the following patterns
29. 01:42:751 (1,2,3) - The blanket is off here.
30. 01:45:647 (2) - I would move this slider a bit further away from 01:44:819 (1) - . Its too close how it is now
31. 01:51:441 (1) - You can actually use this slider's shape to blanket 01:51:027 (5) - ! Moving the second slider point to 245:176 and the red anchor point to 261:227 should accomplish this.
32. 01:51:441 (1,1) - This is kind of awkward. Try having 01:53:096 (1) - Blanket over 01:51:441 (1) - 's slider start, like this! It'll be a bit more cleaner and will flow way better
    
    example

    
    Be sure to adjust the following pattern accordingly
33. 02:01:372 (1,2) - Blanket is slightly off here towards the end
34. 02:06:337 (3,4) - Linear flow is a bit weird. Try and put a curve so that it leads up to the long slider! Try these coordinates:
    02:06:337 (3) - 319:350
    02:06:751 (4) - 417:335
    02:07:165 (1) - 400:236
35. 02:11:302 (7,1,2) - the triangle curve here is a bit too harsh, try and have a nice lead in!
36. 02:14:200 (5) - (Nazi) 57:151 so that the straight slider smacks right in to the middle of this hit circle. Be sure to adjust the spacing of the next circle
37. 02:14:612 - The break starting here is kinda long, try mapping it out a bit seems fine considering the length of this song
38. 02:28:682 (2,3) - The blanket is a bit off here
39. 02:32:820 (1,2) - Have (1) blanket (2) and vice versa, would be a bit neater
40. 02:38:613 (2,3) - (Nazi) (3) isn't quite blanketing (2)'s slider end
41. 02:55:579 (3,1) - Blanket is off
42. 02:56:820 (2,3,1) - Although there is an NC on the slider, the stack is pretty confusing. Newer players will probably hit the slider instead of moving up to (3)
43. 02:57:648 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved
44. 03:07:579 (1) - Why spinner, nothing here really for it to go on. Just remove it and map it out
45. 03:20:923 - You can definitely map this break out. It is kind of abrupt and comes in the middle of nowhere

Well that took a bit longer than I thought, but yeah. Sorry I got a bit lazy at the end
These two difficulties need a bit of work before it is ready to be ranked.

hmm i will make my NC's consistent later

Good luck!

Zero__wind wrote:

the metadata of songs in this album is #$%^&* blah
I'm not sure if the title should be all capitalised like that?
something for referrence: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008PF ... s_sp_ps_dp

No Dap wrote:

Please teach me the secret

Zero__wind wrote:

EDIT: finished my map http://osu.ppy.sh/s/156749
hope you could add the link in your creator's words plz OAQ

Zero__wind wrote:

No Dap wrote:

Please teach me the secret

I'm only gonna make a grave map on my own,
using this mapset currently lol

EDIT: finished my map http://osu.ppy.sh/s/156749
hope you could add the link in your creator's words plz OAQ

Kibbleru wrote:

Zero__wind wrote:

the metadata of songs in this album is #$%^&* blah
I'm not sure if the title should be all capitalised like that?
something for referrence: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008PF ... s_sp_ps_dp

i think it should, it was all caps on the youtube vid and lust told me to all caps it as well

Kibbleru wrote:

lol ur map makes my whole mapset look bad xD

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello.
M4M from my Queue.

pkmnyab's Normal

1. 00:30:957 (2) - this slider is too much curved and seems odd imo, make it smoother. less curved now
2. 00:43:164 (2,4,2) - try to stack these notes, was it intentional ? fixed
3. 01:05:095 (1,3) - try to avoid this overlap, seems odd changed shape of sliders a bit
4. 01:46:475 (1,2) - flow is a bit strange when you have this kind of sliders imo, do 2 curved slider. fixed
5. 01:51:233 (5,6) - Polarity issue, you have to follow vocals to get rid of it, so add a note here 01:52:164 added note at 01:52:061 -
6. 03:10:888 (1) - it might be better if you add a note here, and make the pattern like this, sounds better
   SPOILER

   
   you're right, this does sound better fixed
7. 03:24:130 (1) - ^ fixed

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello.
M4M from my Queue.

Assume fixed if i don't put anything

Easy

1. 00:35:302 (1) - Could be easier to catch if you make a blanket here.
2. 00:43:992 (5,6) - Weird slider, it might be better if you do a smoother flow, so, this slider should be curved.
3. 01:04:268 - i don't really agree here, this note should be played because of the song, it's the only part where all 1/1 must be played.
4. 01:15:854 - ^ same. i think the slider is fine here, but added first one
5. 02:00:957 (4,1,2) - flow is better when they are aligned like this (didnt use DS be careful) :
   SPOILER

   
6. 03:06:750 (2,1,2,3) - Movement is strange here, make something regular, like this :
   SPOILER

   
7. 03:11:302 (1) - sounds better with a 1/1 reversed slider instead of this 2/1 slider. i like this for now, but will change if any1 else notices
8. 03:17:923 (1) - ^ ^
9. 03:24:544 (1) - ^ ^

Hard

1. 00:03:854 (1,2,3,4) - move a bit up, plays better, with (1) at y300 y92
2. 00:31:578 (3,1,2,3) - this is a bit confusing because the distance at metronome between stacked note are not the same, consider unstacking 00:31:578 (3,1) - or 00:32:406 (2,3) - k stacked (3) on (2)
3. 00:48:337 (6) - i'd prefer 2 notes instead of this slider because the main beat (the finish) must me clicked imo.
4. 01:00:750 (6,7) - I thought it was a slider jump, but it is not one and the spacing is closer. Make this instead ? i like it how it is now o3o
   SPOILER

   
5. 01:39:026 (3,4) - stacking notes like this, on this pattern seems really hard to read and play imo, consider unstacking.
6. 02:12:957 (1,2,3,4) - this kind of technique is mostly used when there is a jump between 02:12:750 (4,1) - and here 02:13:164 (2,3) - , it might be better to add jumps so.
7. 03:01:371 (1,2,3,4,5) - (nazi) this star pattern can be better.
8. 03:21:233 (2) - missing clap

Insane

1. 00:03:854 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks odd due to the stacked notes you used, because the distance after the slider is not the same as the distance before , make the same distance for consistency.
2. 00:41:923 (1,2,3,4) - same as i said in Hard, about this technique. + another reason, to emphasize the Finish hitsound, you should make a jump between 00:41:716 (3,1) - made a small jump, but i didn't have enough room for anything fancy
3. 01:01:371 (8,9,10) - The flow is bad here, put this note here ? i like it how it is now and i want them to be stacked
   SPOILER

   
   or if you don't to do because you want to keep it stacked, so move (9) here :
   SPOILER

   
4. 01:57:854 (6,1) - Increase spacing here, should be more jumpy because it is the main beat.
5. 02:03:026 (1,2,3) - Make it looks better like this
   SPOILER

   
6. 03:10:681 (4) - this antijump is a bit odd imo, make it jumpy instead ?nah

I hope it was useful !!!
Good Luck ~

Zero__wind wrote:

ok let's see
no kd for this post

oh god all the missing claps lol q-q
basically fixed everything except one and ill explain o-o

General
all the inherited points are 1ms unsnapped and that causes kiai time unsnapped, plz resnap them all properly
your preview time is unsnapped, plz reset it to 00:55:164 - in all diffs
your soft-slidertick2.wav file is totally not used, plz remove it
I suggest that you disable letterbox for all diffs

Insane
00:41:923 (1) - missing finish
00:42:337 (3) - missing clap
00:43:164 - missing clap
00:54:337 (5) - remove clap fits better
01:01:578 (9) - (324,336) for better flow, no need to stack
01:10:888 (2) - (224,320) plays better, currently spacing too small after a jump
01:19:785 (4) - stack on 01:20:406 (2) - 's end instead of head for better flow
02:39:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - recommend to clap on all of them and set some inherited points to gradually increase volume from lower one, 30% ~40% ~50% ~60%
02:53:095 (3) - (140,92) for better flow
03:07:578 - missing finish

Hard
00:48:544 (1) - missing finish
00:53:923 (3) - missing clap
01:04:053 - add a circle here at (184,304) for more coherent rhythm
01:21:750 (1) - referring to Insane, you need an additional whistle here well idk why there was a whistle on the insane diff but i just removed it o-o
01:48:130 - missing finish
02:01:371 - missing finish
02:05:923 - missing clap
02:06:750 (3) - missing clap
02:13:371 (3) - missing clap
02:19:371 (4,5) - remove body whistle, only keep the one on head and tail
02:39:233 (4,1,2,3) - rhythm too loose, plz use at least coherent 1/2 circles with claps at this part to present the drums
02:25:371 (2) - move the whistle at end to its head for consistency I think so for here i kinda tried to use the whistles like claps so i put them only on beats 2 and 4
02:41:095 - missing finish
03:07:578 - missing finish

Easy
00:28:268 - remove clap as there's simply no drum
00:41:923 (1) - missing finish
00:53:509 (3) - missing clap for all three beats
02:07:164 (6) - why is there a clap on sliderbody lol, seems no harm though
02:12:957 (4) - missing clap
03:07:578 (1) - missing finish
03:21:233 (2) - missing clap

That's all.
If only you could be more careful and considerate, you know, you could get your maps ranked faster

Zero__wind wrote:

pkmnyab's Normal
00:48:544 - missing finish added finish
00:53:095 - missing clap added clap
01:09:233 (2,3) - plz better arrange the rhythm like 01:11:303 (1,2) - to keep the rhythm consistent I feel that it's better as it is. The reason I changed the rhythm for second part is because the vocal isn't as smooth. This is also why I stacked a hitcircle on the slider. I also feel that making it consistent isn't necessary as the vocal isn't exactly the same at both parts.

for referrence only

01:34:888 - add a circle here with finish, and don't drag the break time 01:34:268 - , just leave it natural fixed
02:02:200 (2,3) - unstack them to avoid confusion, it's better that you only stack 1/2 beats like 01:48:751 (1,2) - throughout the diff, no 1/1 stacks fixed

SPOILER

02:06:751 (4,5) - replace these with a 1/2 slider? it's currently confusing because 02:06:751 (4,5) - and 02:07:165 (6) - are on different tracks fixed

SPOILER

02:13:785 - remove clap sounds better, no drums at this point fixed
02:14:613 (1) - unnecessary NC, better remove it fixed
02:55:993 (4) - same problem like the first kiai, plz rearrange the rhythm on vocal like 02:57:441 (6) - to keep the rhythm stable and intuitive didn't change for same reason as before

only for referrence

03:05:923 (1) - missing clap I think fixed
03:10:888 (1,2) - unstack them like I've mentioned above fixed

SPOILER

03:11:302 (2) - missing clap on both head and tail fixed
03:20:819 (1) - missing finish fixed
03:24:544 (2) - need clap on both beginning and end fixed
03:32:406 (1,3) - both clap to fit the drums? fixed
03:34:061 (1) - use some inherited points to gradually silence this like other diffs plz? fixed

No Dap wrote:

such pro. teach me how to map pleae

poddo wrote:

yoo!! your map is doing great! uwu hope it gets ranked >w< the song is good too

some very minor modding:

easy mode:
01:21:647 (1) - the spinner is too short, beginners usually suck with spinners because they spin around the border of the entire osu window or just put too much stress on their hands, if you make it longer, they have an easier time with spinning it. since it will sync less with the music if you make it longer, you could completely remove it and add hit objects instead. less spinners = better for easy mode hmm i gave it a little bit of thought i guess fixed

hard mode:
basically sometimes the hard mode feels too easy, i guess i can note out that you should emphasize the beats more? like.. hard doesn't need to be that hard. i think the difficulty of this is appropriate
00:11:095 - add circle here
00:11:923 - here too
00:15:647 - and here
00:16:888 - here? maybe. if you want the speed to slow down or something as the voice comes on to match the pace, then don't add it here
00:19:785 - same goes here
01:19:992 (1,2,3,4) - the shapes of these sliders are asymmetrical, maybe you should match up their shapes(unless asymmetry was what you were aiming for) intentional

that's about all i can help with! good luck ;w;

Sellenite wrote:

Hi！from Modding Queues M4M

[pkmnyab's Normal]
01:52:061 (6,7) - a bit strange,I think delete them and put a note in the 01:52:681 will be better remapped this part, should be better now
02:34:475 (1) - remove NC kept NC but removed NC from slider in previous measure
02:34:889 (2) - NC fixed
02:36:131 (1) - remove NC I like this NC here to match the music in the background and the vocal

good luck~

neonat wrote:

General

pkmnyab's Normal

00:15:854 (2,3) - is there any particularly striking difference between this circle and slider end that is different from the rest of the verse? Only both of them do not have the clap I might have left out the claps here to let the vocal stand out more, I'm not sure. Anyways added claps
00:40:268 (1) - end of slider clap fixed
00:53:510 (1) - this spinner should be louder, do not use 5%, use at least 20% fixed
02:12:958 (1) - clap on the start of the slider (why is there clap on the body of the slider?) hm this might be from back when I thought putting clap on the body did the same thing as putting it on head and tail, anyways fixed
03:11:302 (2) - clap on start and end of slider fixed
03:19:992 (6) - clap on the middle (repeating end) of the slider fixed

Good luck

neonat wrote:

General

First of all, you really need to get your sources straightened out (I honestly found the previous discussions amusing because of all the assumptions made)
Heart's Homing Instinct is what people deem as the translation of the title, in all the officials I have seen, it's either 帰想本能, Kisō Hon'nō, Kisou Honnou, all of those sorts etc. So you took a subber as a source of the title even when though it used "HEART’S HOMING INSTINCT" you used "HEART’s HOMING INSTINCT". Even then, they sometimes use "Heart Homing Instinct". So honestly, this is really doubtful, all capitals is highly unlikely from the official source.
Second thing is that this is a cover and not an original. The original is sung by Hatsune Miku. Add 'cover' into the tags. The song was released way back in 2009 in the Lovegazer album.
From 03:07:578 - onwards the supporting vocals in the background is Hatsune Miku, you might want to add Vocaloid and Hatsune Miku into the tags

The current tags on Easy Hard and Insane are as follow:
LOVE CALENDER so18140621 Ryosuke Dr.R Sakai pkmnyab kissou honnou
Current tags on the Normal are:
LOVE CALENDER so18140621 Ryosuke Dr.R Sakai pkmnyab kissou honnou
fix the difference (which is just 1 space....) for consistency (Edit: wait what? did the forum fix the space? The one with 2 spaces in between R and Sakai is the Easy Hard Insane)

still not sure about the title but fixed the tags

Hard

00:33:232 (5) - object end is not snapped fixed i think?
01:20:819 (3) - clap on the end of slider k
02:53:509 (4) - ^ ^
03:19:992 (1) - ^ ^

Insane

00:36:130 (3) - you can split this up to have focus on 00:36:337 as well hmm.. ok
00:36:750 - you can filler here to lead to the next part i dont understand what u mean
01:07:578 (6) - clap on end of slider added all claps
01:20:819 (3) - ^
02:16:061 (5) - possible spicing up of rhythm, end the slider at 02:16:371 and have another slider from 02:16:475 to 02:16:681 nah not here
02:53:509 (4) - clap on end of slider
03:06:750 (3) - ^
03:19:992 (1) - ^

Good luck

BeatofIke wrote:

Looking better. Keep it up!

1. Remove OSB File. You don't need it since your map does not contain a storyboard.
2. On Normal difficulty, you forgot to add video for this difficulty.
3. On Hard, this slider at 00:28:681 (2) is unsnapped. Please re-snap this sider.

No Dap wrote:

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No Dap wrote:

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pkmnyab wrote:

No Dap wrote:

Teach me the secret of getting BAT mod

...it all makes sense now

1. Does the title need to be in uppercase, actually...?
2. I'm sure it should be "Kisou" instead of "Kissou" in tags after digging some information about the song.
3. 03:07:578 - I think the second kiai should end here since it's the end of the chorus. The current kiai end looks... random.

1. 00:08:819 (1) - Make it look like this to create a better flow to 00:10:061 (2) and to blanket 00:08:406 (5) so the designing here will look neater overall?
2. 00:49:371 (2,3) - Rotate them 10 degrees counter clockwise and move them to (216,68) to, again, make a better flow from 00:48:544 (1)?
3. 01:23:302 - 01:24:957 - Map this part so the break after the chorus begins at 01:24:957? It really feels more natural, because the song's rhythm structure changes from there (I hope you know what I'm talking about lol). Just try it first.
4. 03:10:061 (1,3) - Swap NC and remove the NC at 03:11:302 (1)? Since you use an NC every two stanzas (usually), I think it's more logical if you did everything that I said, as it'll make the combo pattern consistent.

1. 00:07:579 (4) - Move to (296,136) so the spacing at 00:06:751 (3,4,5) will be even?
2. 00:30:337 (1,4) - Swap NC so the combo pattern will be consistent? (Applies to similar cases. Honestly, I can't see any reason about this combo pattern which goes by "NC - 1 stanza - NC - 2 stanzas - NC - 1 stanza - (rinse and repeat from the beginning)"... I don't think it followed anything in particular lol)
3. 00:33:648 (1) - Move this to (388,112) to improve the flow?
4. 00:33:648 (1,2) - What's with the spacing lol
5. 00:53:095 - Since this is the stanza's fourth white tick, what about adding a clap? There's no reason to leave it unmapped.
6. 01:06:544 (1) - What's with this NC? I think this is not necessary, judging from how you make your combo pattern.
7. 01:19:993 (1) - ^
8. 01:35:510 (1) - ^
9. 01:41:510 (6,1) - Swap NC to follow how the stanza goes here?
10. 01:46:475 (1) - Uh, remove NC? I also think this one is redundant.
11. 01:55:579 (1,3) - Swap NC and remove the NC at 01:58:062 (1) to make the combo pattern consistent.
12. 02:08:819 (2) - Move this to (84,260) so it'll look neater here because the head is directly below 02:07:993 (1)'s tail?
13. 02:57:441 (6,1) - (6) is overlapping (1) to the point where the half of the circle is covered. Not only this looks jarring, but it is also pretty hard to read. Consider moving them out from each other please.
14. 03:04:889 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacing?
15. 03:10:061 (5,6) - The flow could be better if (5) were moved to (104,212) and (6) were moved to (128,320), I think.
16. 03:19:992 (6) - Move the node on the tail to (72,128) so the design here will be better and the flow will also be nicer?

1. 00:11:302 (2,1) - Inconsistent spacing?
2. 00:15:440 (1,2) - ^
3. 00:33:232 (5,1) - ^. I know why is this one inconsistent, but you shouldn't sacrifice gameplay with something as small as having a slider's head stacked on another slider's...
4. 00:42:337 (3,4,5) - ^ (Suddenly using 1.0x?)
5. 00:48:957 (2,3) - I just realized something from here: You don't have any (even slightly) jumpy pattern until now. Maybe try to add some jumps so the diff will be a little more fun?
6. 00:59:302 (2,3) - Same as 00:33:232 (5,1).
7. 01:00:750 (6,7,8) - Try to make the rhythm look like this? Fits with the vocal pretty nicely, IMO. Here's a pattern suggestion if you want.
8. 01:03:440 (3,4,1) - I know you want to make a nice-looking pattern here, but I think you don't need to use 0.8x. Using 1.1x is possible here, and I recommend it so this pattern won't feel awkward to play.
9. 01:19:992 (1,2,3,4) - This honestly doesn't look too neat lol. Try to make something like this by copy-pasting (1) and flipping it?
10. 01:36:544 (1,2) - 1.04x spacing?
11. 01:39:440 (4,5,1) - Make it look like this (remember that (4) is stacked below (3)) for a better flow? Currently, the cursor movement feels kinda forced...
12. 01:53:095 (1,2,3,4) - Suddenly using 1.2x? What about making them look like this (this is just a rough illustration) with 1.1x spacing? Feels more consistent overall.
13. 02:31:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The spacing here is very inconsistent. Consider using one single DS value.
14. 02:52:681 - 03:07:578 - ^

1. 01:13:578 (4,5) - The direction of the curve is breaking the flow from (3)'s curve. Maybe copy-paste (3) and rotate it counter clockwise a little to replace (4,5). Their curve and the direction of the rotation here doesn't seem to go along well. (I hope you get what I meant lol)
2. 01:17:095 (2) - What about simply using a copy-pasted and 180 degrees-flipped version of 01:16:681 (1) instead for, again, a better flow?
3. 01:21:647 (1) - Move to (184,356) so it'd look neater because this isn't overlapped below 01:21:233 (4)?
4. 01:54:750 (1) - I think this is too close to 01:54:337 (5)... Try moving it to (392,152)?
5. 01:59:509 (4,1) - The anti-jump here doesn't really work well since you're going on a constant 1/2 rhythm for the map (by this, I mean the gap between objects are mainly 1/2), and there's nothing that really indicates the need of it... So make the spacing consistent?
6. 02:44:199 (3) - Similar to the first two suggestions; I think you should be able to get the idea from there.
7. 03:20:819 (3,1) - Swap NC? I can't see what is the current combo pattern following...
8. 03:27:440 (3,1) - ^

Hinsvar wrote:

Hello!

>pkmnyab's Normal

1. 00:07:579 (4) - Move to (296,136) so the spacing at 00:06:751 (3,4,5) will be even? fixed
2. 00:30:337 (1,4) - Swap NC so the combo pattern will be consistent? (Applies to similar cases. Honestly, I can't see any reason about this combo pattern which goes by "NC - 1 stanza - NC - 2 stanzas - NC - 1 stanza - (rinse and repeat from the beginning)"... I don't think it followed anything in particular lol) yea I'm not sure what I did there lol
3. 00:33:648 (1) - Move this to (388,112) to improve the flow?fixed
4. 00:33:648 (1,2) - What's with the spacing lolfixed with the previous change
5. 00:53:095 - Since this is the stanza's fourth white tick, what about adding a clap? There's no reason to leave it unmapped.shortened slider and added clap
6. 01:06:544 (1) - What's with this NC? I think this is not necessary, judging from how you make your combo pattern.fixed
7. 01:19:993 (1) - ^fixed
8. 01:35:510 (1) - ^ fixed
9. 01:41:510 (6,1) - Swap NC to follow how the stanza goes here? fixed
10. 01:46:475 (1) - Uh, remove NC? I also think this one is redundant. fixed
11. 01:55:579 (1,3) - Swap NC and remove the NC at 01:58:062 (1) to make the combo pattern consistent. fixed
12. 02:08:819 (2) - Move this to (84,260) so it'll look neater here because the head is directly below 02:07:993 (1)'s tail? fixed
13. 02:57:441 (6,1) - (6) is overlapping (1) to the point where the half of the circle is covered. Not only this looks jarring, but it is also pretty hard to read. Consider moving them out from each other please. rearranged notes
14. 03:04:889 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacing? fixed
15. 03:10:061 (5,6) - The flow could be better if (5) were moved to (104,212) and (6) were moved to (128,320), I think. fixed
16. 03:19:992 (6) - Move the node on the tail to (72,128) so the design here will be better and the flow will also be nicer? fixed

Yep, quite a nice map (as expected from Canadians). Insane's pretty fun actually, but it still looks a little messy. I tried to keep my urge from giving placement suggestions because I'd use my own style lol

Good luck on the way!

Hinsvar wrote:

Hello!

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>General

1. Does the title need to be in uppercase, actually...? Yes i believe so
2. I'm sure it should be "Kisou" instead of "Kissou" in tags after digging some information about the song. ok
3. 03:07:578 - I think the second kiai should end here since it's the end of the chorus. The current kiai end looks... random. uhh actually i think that's only on easy and that was my mistake xD oops

>Easy

1. 00:08:819 (1) - Make it look like this to create a better flow to 00:10:061 (2) and to blanket 00:08:406 (5) so the designing here will look neater overall? l
2. 00:49:371 (2,3) - Rotate them 10 degrees counter clockwise and move them to (216,68) to, again, make a better flow from 00:48:544 (1)? hmm k fixed
3. 01:23:302 - 01:24:957 - Map this part so the break after the chorus begins at 01:24:957? It really feels more natural, because the song's rhythm structure changes from there (I hope you know what I'm talking about lol). Just try it first. ehh i disagree, and i'd like the break times to be somewhat consistent :X
4. 03:10:061 (1,3) - Swap NC and remove the NC at 03:11:302 (1)? Since you use an NC every two stanzas (usually), I think it's more logical if you did everything that I said, as it'll make the combo pattern consistent.agree, fixed

>Hard

1. 00:11:302 (2,1) - Inconsistent spacing? lol whoops fixed these thanks
2. 00:15:440 (1,2) - ^
3. 00:33:232 (5,1) - ^. I know why is this one inconsistent, but you shouldn't sacrifice gameplay with something as small as having a slider's head stacked on another slider's...
4. 00:42:337 (3,4,5) - ^ (Suddenly using 1.0x?) fak forgot to change this. (i had all 1.0 before but changed to 1.1 since overlaps n stuff)
5. 00:48:957 (2,3) - I just realized something from here: You don't have any (even slightly) jumpy pattern until now. Maybe try to add some jumps so the diff will be a little more fun? Alright i added a few small jumps where i think is appropriate ^o^
6. 00:59:302 (2,3) - Same as 00:33:232 (5,1). yep
7. 01:00:750 (6,7,8) - Try to make the rhythm look like this? Fits with the vocal pretty nicely, IMO. Here's a pattern suggestion if you want. hmm nice rhythm! applied.
8. 01:03:440 (3,4,1) - I know you want to make a nice-looking pattern here, but I think you don't need to use 0.8x. Using 1.1x is possible here, and I recommend it so this pattern won't feel awkward to play.k after a bit of rearranging i got it to work
9. 01:19:992 (1,2,3,4) - This honestly doesn't look too neat lol. Try to make something like this by copy-pasting (1) and flipping it?ahh i really like this tho idk why x.x ill keep for now until someone else tell me to change :X
10. 01:36:544 (1,2) - 1.04x spacing? uhh lol. k i fixed all the spacing issues
11. 01:39:440 (4,5,1) - Make it look like this (remember that (4) is stacked below (3)) for a better flow? Currently, the cursor movement feels kinda forced... alright
12. 01:53:095 (1,2,3,4) - Suddenly using 1.2x? What about making them look like this (this is just a rough illustration) with 1.1x spacing? Feels more consistent overall. i thought it might look neater with 1.2 but u know what? i think it works fine with 1.1 too
13. 02:31:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The spacing here is very inconsistent. Consider using one single DS value.
14. 02:52:681 - 03:07:578 - ^

>Insane

1. 01:13:578 (4,5) - The direction of the curve is breaking the flow from (3)'s curve. Maybe copy-paste (3) and rotate it counter clockwise a little to replace (4,5). Their curve and the direction of the rotation here doesn't seem to go along well. (I hope you get what I meant lol) hmm, i don't really see TOO much of a problem, and i like this :X
2. 01:17:095 (2) - What about simply using a copy-pasted and 180 degrees-flipped version of 01:16:681 (1) instead for, again, a better flow? hmm i've considered this too, fixed!
3. 01:21:647 (1) - Move to (184,356) so it'd look neater because this isn't overlapped below 01:21:233 (4)? fixed
4. 01:54:750 (1) - I think this is too close to 01:54:337 (5)... Try moving it to (392,152)? i didnt use ur coordinates but i spaced them out
5. 01:59:509 (4,1) - The anti-jump here doesn't really work well since you're going on a constant 1/2 rhythm for the map (by this, I mean the gap between objects are mainly 1/2), and there's nothing that really indicates the need of it... So make the spacing consistent?kk
6. 02:44:199 (3) - Similar to the first two suggestions; I think you should be able to get the idea from there. ^
7. 03:20:819 (3,1) - Swap NC? I can't see what is the current combo pattern following... kk fixed these ncs
8. 03:27:440 (3,1) - ^

Yep, quite a nice map (as expected from Canadians)lolwat? are Canadians suppose to be good at mapping xD?. Insane's pretty fun actually, but it still looks a little messy. I tried to keep my urge from giving placement suggestions because I'd use my own style lol

Good luck on the way! TYVM! for mod! it was very helpful, i wish i could give me more than just 1 kudos for it haha

KiyoshiX101 wrote:

Hello~

[General]
You have inconsistent kiai times. o:
02:14:613 (3) - Favorite part T_T lel i didnt map this part on easy eheh..

[Easy]
00:05:095 (5,1) - The blanket could be better o3o nazi.exe bleh k i tried my best >_< (fixed the rest as well)
00:05:509 (1,3) - ^
00:10:061 (2,3) - ^
00:17:923 (5,1) - ^ ._.
00:59:716 (3,1) - ^
And goes on like this, nothing else than those nazi o: Good job :3

[Hard]
02:53:923 (5,1) - Nazi blanket .-. mmk
03:03:854 (7,1) - Make this blanket better, just for the looking part .-.

[Insane]
02:50:612 (4,5,1) - Inconsistent spacing. fixed

That aside, have a star and good luck :3.

pkmnyab wrote:

[Hard]
Just some suggestions. If I straight-up tell you to do something, keep in mind that it's a suggestion. I'm not saying you have to do it! but seriously do it or I will hunt you down


00:03:647 (5,1) - this is a bit awkward in terms of flow, right now I think there are two things you can do to make it better:

1.
00:03:233 (3,4,5) - arrange like this

SPOILER

00:03:854 (1) - ctrl+g
00:04:681 (3) - ctrl+g

By rearranging (3,4,5), it transitions well into 00:03:854 (1) - (assuming that you already ctrl+g'd it). Test it out and see if it flows better.

2.
00:03:233 (3,4,5) - arrange like this (I also moved (2) down a little)

SPOILER

00:03:854 (1,2,3,4) - use 1.1x distance snap to increase space between each slider and make it look less cluttered

SPOILER

The first change allows a smooth transition from (5) into (1). Second change makes it look neater and also a bit more difficult/less easy since the movement created from dragging a slider to the end then going to the next slider seemed a little tight/cramped.


...moving on, 00:07:164 (1,2,3,4) - you can also apply 1.1x distance snap here

00:11:095 - consider adding a note here, feels sort of empty given the note density before this part

00:14:199 (2) - flow improvement, ctrl+g
00:15:026 (4) - ctrl+g, also curve downwards (position is at x 412 y 296)
00:15:440 (1) - also move this if you applied the last change, the position is in the last screenshot

00:26:819 (4,1) - move (4) down and (1) up a little because current flow feels a bit awkward

SPOILER

01:05:095 (1,2,3) - hm flow feels a bit awkward, maybe you can curve (1) downwards or something. Alternatively if you want to keep the shape of (1), you can ctrl+g (3) and reposition (2,3) a bit

SPOILER

You'll have to worry about (4) and all the notes after this though

01:11:095 (3,4) - try placing it like this instead

SPOILER

01:37:578 (3) - ctrl+g, move 01:37:992 (4) - to somewhere around x 320 y 140. This change creates some nice flow~

01:46:888 (2) - ctrl+g
01:47:302 (3,4) - position it something like this

SPOILER

These changes create circular motions when going from slider to slider, not sure if you'd like this though.

01:52:888 (4,1) - this transition is a bit awkward, and since you're running out of room, I suggest stacking 01:52:681 (3,4) - so (4) will flow well into (1)

I feel that hit circle and slider will help bring out the vocal more (vocal sounds really nice here~!)
01:55:578 (2,1) - delete
01:55:572 - add hitcircle
01:55:992 - add slider here that ends on 01:56:406 -

02:05:923 (4) - I would have liked this ctrl+g'd, but you would have to rearrange 02:06:337 (1,2,3,4) - , etc

02:11:095 (3) - consider extending this to 02:11:509 - to match vocal
02:16:061 (5,4) - consider extending each of these to the next white tick to match vocal

Looking good! Keep up the good work bring home the gold for your good ol' buddy pk

1. 00:08:820 (1) - finish here sounds so weird
2. 00:14:613 (5,3) - arrange notes so they can stack?
3. 00:23:716 - i prefer having slider here to emphasize guitar same with any of the other guitar sounds. try to make it so that there's a slider where the guitar plays.
4. 01:51:440 - ^ guitar here again, map these out with sliders please
5. 00:36:544 (3,2) - why aren't these stacked??
6. 00:36:131 (2,3) - ^
7. 00:43:165 (2,4) - ^
   so many things you can stack, why not?
8. 00:51:854 (1) - looks kinda bad, change design
9. 00:56:406 - pls can u add stuff to the places like here, the missing clap sound just sounds soo weird ;-;
10. 02:42:337 - ^ yah u get the point.
11. 00:59:924 (1,2,3) - i'd honestly prefer you map out the drums instead just so we can get the clap sound again lol.
12. 01:13:165 (1,2,3) - ^
    same goes with other similar rhythms. pls, the missing hitsounds just sound so weird >_<
13. 01:17:510 (5,1) - these are not the same shape, if you know what i mean here. pm me in game if u don't understand
14. 01:19:165 (3) - curve this the other way?
15. 01:19:165 (3,4) - something like this might look better
    
    SPOILER

    
16. 01:35:302 - can probably map this out too, maybe use a 1/2 slider going into 01:35:510 (2) -
17. 01:37:786 (6,4) - could stack
18. 01:59:717 (5) - kinda ugly lol
19. 02:03:026 (4) - ^ basically give these curves a less sharp on the inside. see how this little inner curve looks sharp?
    
    SPOILER

    
20. 02:07:993 (1,2,4) - im not sure if you did, however, making these kind of triangular things, use the rotate tool (ctrl shift r) and rotate the sliders by 120 each time.
21. 02:12:958 (1) - remove last clap
22. 02:36:131 (1,2,3,4) - i think you should replace with 2 sliders
23. 02:38:612 (2,5) - i THINK you can stack? if not, rearrange a bit. looks messy
24. 02:39:027 (3,6) - ^
25. 02:54:337 (2,3) - idk perfectly vertical or horizontal just looks ugly to me lmao.
26. 03:00:337 (4,2) - oh god this overlap..
27. 03:05:923 (1) - you totally don't need this spinner
28. 03:11:302 (2,4) - u can stack lol
29. 03:31:578 (3,3) - ^
30. 03:29:095 (3,4) - they touch. space out, besides, this design doesn't look that good overall imo.
31. 03:33:233 (3,4) - i think you can use a 1/1 slider for drum roll. or maybe even a 1/2 slider repeated twice

Vita-VVA wrote:

Hello!From your queue for M4M
[Tips]
mod with light blue just is a suggestion or silly mod which made me uncomfortable personally
mod with purple is what I strongly suggest to do
mod with red is advise that I think should be changed
meanwhile, I was not a pro modder, so all of above is basing my individual opinion Ignore them if you think they are helpless

[General]
break should start and end at white lines (I remember a BAT told me...) ok ill keep that in mind!
Tell me the secret for so many BAT mod..... uhh this map has been out for a long time? iunno lol BD m4m, zero liked the song, and ike was from a queue

[Insane]
00:05:095 (6) - I prefer to use a single note instead of slider in order to make it different from the 2nd section and 4th section,or another way is add a note at here 00:14:923 - like drums: do ta do ta~~~chinese:动次大次 hm i was going for trying to map the instrument sound and here it has a long sound soo no change.
00:11:716 (5) - ^
01:36:337 (4) - I heared nothing follow this note....maybe delete it ?
01:45:233 (2,5) - Not necessary and I'll delete them
01:57:233 (3) - too much triangle jumps....maybe try few this

reverse and blanket

i like triangle jumps and i have no creativity '^'
02:11:095 (5) - Better a NC? k
02:48:130 (1) - May divide into two notes hmm ok
03:07:578 (1) - the difficult could be harder from here...(I love this part) i unno, this is kinda like the outro and the song kinda gets quieter.

[Hard]
00:05:095 (4) - As insane
nothing more

[Easy]
excellent

[Finally]
it's hard to mod such a map(nearly perfect),And I began to love DECO27 since 妄想税
Shoot for rank earlier~

Kibbleru wrote:

So im actually going to mod the Normal GD lol.. so yeah
Please DO consider these suggestions. Trust me, i want this to get ranked more than u do lel

>Normal

1. 00:08:820 (1) - finish here sounds so weird removed
2. 00:14:613 (5,3) - arrange notes so they can stack? fixed
3. 00:23:716 - i prefer having slider here to emphasize guitar same with any of the other guitar sounds. try to make it so that there's a slider where the guitar plays. fixed
4. 01:51:440 - ^ guitar here again, map these out with sliders please fixed
5. 00:36:544 (3,2) - why aren't these stacked?? fixed
6. 00:36:131 (2,3) - ^
7. 00:43:165 (2,4) - ^
   so many things you can stack, why not? fixed
8. 00:51:854 (1) - looks kinda bad, change design you look bad loljk don't kill me please
9. 00:56:406 - pls can u add stuff to the places like here, the missing clap sound just sounds soo weird ;-;
10. 02:42:337 - ^ yah u get the point. fixed
11. 00:59:924 (1,2,3) - i'd honestly prefer you map out the drums instead just so we can get the clap sound again lol. fixed
12. 01:13:165 (1,2,3) - ^
    same goes with other similar rhythms. pls, the missing hitsounds just sound so weird >_< fixed
13. 01:17:510 (5,1) - these are not the same shape, if you know what i mean here. pm me in game if u don't understand fixed
14. 01:19:165 (3) - curve this the other way? fixed
15. 01:19:165 (3,4) - something like this might look better fixed
    
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16. 01:35:302 - can probably map this out too, maybe use a 1/2 slider going into 01:35:510 (2) - added note instead
17. 01:37:786 (6,4) - could stack fixed
18. 01:59:717 (5) - kinda ugly lol you're kinda ugly i lie
19. 02:03:026 (4) - ^ basically give these curves a less sharp on the inside. see how this little inner curve looks sharp? fixed
    
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20. 02:07:993 (1,2,4) - im not sure if you did, however, making these kind of triangular things, use the rotate tool (ctrl shift r) and rotate the sliders by 120 each time. fixed
21. 02:12:958 (1) - remove last clap this is intentional, it's to match the snare/drum roll in the music fixed
22. 02:36:131 (1,2,3,4) - i think you should replace with 2 sliders done
23. 02:38:612 (2,5) - i THINK you can stack? if not, rearrange a bit. looks messy fixed
24. 02:39:027 (3,6) - ^
25. 02:54:337 (2,3) - idk perfectly vertical or horizontal just looks ugly to me lmao. moved second one left a bit
26. 03:00:337 (4,2) - oh god this overlap.. fixed
27. 03:05:923 (1) - you totally don't need this spinner you see, this is intentional. This is to transition from kiai time to the non-kiai time. This separates the two different melodies/sections of the music, so it's fine.
28. 03:11:302 (2,4) - u can stack lol fixed
29. 03:31:578 (3,3) - ^
30. 03:29:095 (3,4) - they touch. space out, besides, this design doesn't look that good overall imo. fixed
31. 03:33:233 (3,4) - i think you can use a 1/1 slider for drum roll. or maybe even a 1/2 slider repeated twice fixed

booo i cant give myself kudos. lel

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Jemmmmy wrote:

hi,from my M4M queue
[easy]
00:42:750 (3,4,5) - little change of the shape of slider and placement ok fixed
02:32:406 (2,3) - better blanket hmm i see what you're getting at but i like this
[hard]
00:13:785 (1,2,3) - same distance,2 to 3 is 1.03 lol whoops fixed all these ty
00:18:130 (2,3,1) - ^
02:07:992 (1,2,3) - ^
02:15:233 (2,3,4) - ^
03:25:785 (1) - hm ok changed
03:26:612 (3) - nah not this one
[insane]
00:26:199 (4) - ctrl+g hmm no
other are just good

nice map

Raiku wrote:

Raiku mod!

[Easy]

00:23:716 (3) - I personally feel that this slider would do nicely if the head were to be aimed directly out of the flow line of the preceding note for enhanced flow like so (http://puu.sh/7TZYl.jpg). Maybe soften the curve of the succeeding slider to match. k fixed

00:53:509 (3) - I recommend aiming this repeat slider for progressive flow towards the next note (http://puu.sh/7U05s.jpg). hmm ok!

01:13:371 (3,4) - I suggest rotating these sliders on their selection centre at about -20 degrees (http://puu.sh/7U0bN.png) so that the first slider flows out of the preceding note and the second slider flows directly into the slider after (http://puu.sh/7U0hO.jpg). fixed!

03:05:923 (1,2) - I felt that this blanket was slightly off and could benefit with slider 1 being moved to the right a few pixels and the tailpoint of slider 2 being moved down by literally pixels at a time until you see perfection (http://puu.sh/7VjDn.jpg). ehh not exactly trying to blanket but adjusted a bit



[Hard]

00:07:164 (1,2,3,4) - Perhaps you can make the spacing of the blankets of these notes to be the same as the same pattern before for continuity. they are?

00:12:130 (1) - I recommend exposing the tail end of the body of this slider slightly (http://puu.sh/7Vl8D.jpg). brilliant. taken

00:13:578 (5,1) - There seems to be a big spacing change between the blue combo and the next combo, in fact the slider leading in to the circles moving down the screen to the slider coming out of them sees this spacing change. Then again I can see what you are doing, it is a kind of pattern symmetry involving spacing changes a little like 00:41:923 (1,2,3,4,5). uhh not exactly sure what u meant but fixed?

00:16:268 (4) - I suggest moving the tail point of this slider up a little to see a neater blanket (http://puu.sh/7Vld3.jpg). k lel

00:44:406 (3) - I think you should move the kink forward a little so the slider is symmetrical and the kink is exactly on the slider tick a little bit something like this (http://puu.sh/7Vlki.jpg). hmm ok

01:19:992 (1,2,3,4) - If there are going to be changing gradients in this array of sliders, either make the spacing inbetween them perfectly symmetrical and even or make it so they are all the same gradient in my opinion, they look a little chaotic at the moment. Alternatively you could just move the tail point of slider 2 down so that all spacings remain even (http://puu.sh/7Vm1U.jpg). uh took second suggestion

01:40:681 (3) - I'm not too sure how to feel about the kink of this slider, maybe you should keep with the kink on the tick thing you were going with for a little continuity, we don't want to go too 0108 up in here, unless of course you want to k fixed

01:46:888 (2,3,4) - Perhaps even out the blankets between these sliders to improve the symmetry (http://puu.sh/7Vmdz.jpg). i tried my best xD

02:06:957 (4,5,6) - There is a large spacing change between the circles preceding these notes and the spacing between these notes themselves. nah not here, the jumps are meant to play out the guitar thing idk what u call it

02:17:716 (4) - I feel that this slider is too long to be bland, but then again it could fit for the drawn out vocals in this section. Anyway either way, here is a fun alternative (http://puu.sh/7Vmpm.jpg). i feel like smooth sliders work well in the smooth, calm zone of the music


[Insane]

00:08:406 (6) - I feel this will play better if you flip it on its end using ctrl+g like so (http://puu.sh/7Vnbj.jpg). brilliant. fixed

00:19:578 (4,5,1) - You could even the blanket here by moving the headpoint of slider 1 down a little (http://puu.sh/7VnfY.jpg). k

00:21:854 (4) - I recommend moving this note so that the preceding note in more or less the same position stacks on it preventing an overlap. I moved it to x:172 y:180 (http://puu.sh/7Vo97.jpg). k

00:22:681 (3,4,5,6) - The spacing between 4 and 5 is greater than the spacing between 5 and 6, so in effect if you were to make the spacing equidistant you can also benefit from improving the blanket between 6 and 1 (http://puu.sh/7VoeS.jpg). ok fixed

00:34:268 (2,4) - I recommend making these two stack to prevent an overlap for beauty. x:324 y:192. kk

01:21:647 (1) - Why not place this note where the previous combo's slider 2's head was to continue with the backtracking pattern you had going on, its a nice flair to have it in the centre before the spinner (http://puu.sh/7Vom4.jpg). This plays really well. hmm good idea fixed

02:57:026 (2,4) - This blanket could be improved somewhat (http://puu.sh/7VorY.jpg). eh i wasn't really aiming for blankets here but i suppose i could blanket yah

02:58:681 (3) - You could ctrl+g this slider to keep the progressive to the right of the screen spacing going on. The doublebacking flow works really well here too (http://puu.sh/7Votc.jpg). no i don't think it flows really well if i do this

Brilliant mapset, well done and I hope you get some bat attention now! Good luck!

Raiku wrote:

Raiku mod!

[pkmnyab's Normal]

00:02:613 (2) - I personally feel that you can get a more exciting flow by flipping the curve of this slider around so that the tail is facing in the opposite direction like so (http://puu.sh/7Vkes.jpg). good catch, fixed

00:07:993 (5) - I suggest bringing the tail of this slider down a pixel to improve the blanket (http://puu.sh/7Vkne.jpg). fixed

00:18:751 (1) - This slider seems to have a harsher curve than the rest, perhaps soften for continuity? fixed

00:36:958 (1) - I recommend lowering the angle of this slider so that the flow into and out of it is enhanced. Also remember to keep the spacing between the slider and the note (http://puu.sh/7VkvX.jpg). fixed

00:51:854 (1) - Perhaps make the first curve of this slider reduced in curve acuteness to match the last curve which seems to be a little softer. All in all I think this slider would look nicer with softer curves (http://puu.sh/7VkCt.jpg). Something like that but perfectly symmetrical. fixed

01:15:855 (3,5) - I believe you could stack the tail and head of these sliders pixel perfect, a little nazi I know. Coordinates for slider 5 would now be x320 y220 (http://puu.sh/7VkI2.jpg). fixed

01:35:717 (4) - Maybe expose the head side of the body of this slider a little more to avoid slider length confusion for beginners, I know this is a small change but every little helps with a beginner player in mind. Just make it so there is no overlap with the slider head and the body. fixed

01:49:786 (3) - Same here, notice how you can see a little bit of body under the head now (http://puu.sh/7VkOr.jpg). fixed

01:57:648 (2) - Coordinates for this stack to be pixel perfect are x:301 y:71 (http://puu.sh/7VkSN.jpg). fixed

02:09:647 (4) - Perhaps soften this slider curve so that it flows directly into the succeeding note (http://puu.sh/7VkU3.jpg)? fixed

02:11:096 (3) - This slider could be symmetrical in curve angle at either side to promote beauty. fixed

02:36:957 (5,2) - I'm not completely sure about this overlap, It seems a little messy (http://puu.sh/7VkXQ.jpg).

02:38:612 (2,5) - Here too. stacked instead

02:39:027 (3,6) - And here, which leads me to say this section could be a little too clustered in one part of the screen. fixed


Brilliant mapset, well done and I hope you get some bat attention now! Good luck!

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FlawlessTea wrote:

I don't know rhythm T_T
All I can mod is lame layout


[Insane]
00:02:819 (3,4,5,6,1) - THIS SHALL BECOME A BEAUTIFUL STAR. You're stopping it from reaching it's highest potential ;-; wahh i dun really want a star ;-; ill consider

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see how the 4 isn't too close to the 6? so pretty *-* (You could probably move 00:04:061 (2) to a better location if you use this code)

00:11:716 (5) - try ctrl+G for better flow k

00:22:061 (1,2,3,4,5) - very very small suggestion: I think the 1 slider should lead into the 2 circle for better flow. right now 2 seems out of place. maybe 00:22:475 (2,5) - switch places and then 00:22:681 (3,4) - switch places as well (fix hitsounds if you do this.. actually hitsounds don't sound quite bad, but for consistency i guess) mmk done


I see you're trying to stack 01:42:130 (3) with 01:43:164 (1) and 01:42:337 (4) with 01:43:785 (2), but then 01:41:923 (2,3,4,5) looks weird
temporary fix might be to ctrl+G 01:42:130 (3,4), but i suggest making the distances equal or making them a "random" jump fixd

01:44:406 (4,1) - looks odd. maybe something like

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k
This creates partial symmetry so that it looks nicer, while maintaining the blanket and the flow. Although it makes an overlap with 01:43:164 (1) , it's not even noticeable, compared to what you had before which is much more noticeable (actually, I'm probably the only person to get bothered by this kind of stuff...)

01:46:475 (1,2,3) - this also looks strange because you're using two different sliders in the same combo. perhaps maybe either

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k

or anything else with identical sliders that has 1000x better flow than what i came up with

01:48:957 (3,4,5,1) - also looks strange. here's something I came up with:

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I rotated 01:48:957 (3) because 01:48:130 (1,2,3) also looked a little strange + this way there's better flow. The 3 slider leads into the 4 hitcircle, then copy paste 01:48:957 (3,4) and rotate 180 to make 01:49:578 (5,1). This way there's a little fun jump from 4 to 5, and then 5 leads into the 01:49:785 (1) kickslider which maintains the flow. Then move 01:50:406 (2) to blanket with the 1 slider, and distance from 2 to 01:50:819 (3) should be ok kk

02:02:819 (7,1) - bad flow here. 1 slider should turn the other way. try: fak reading this mod made me realize how ugly my patterns are on insane. brb gunna farking rearrange the whole diff

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This will create better flow while keeping your triangle pattern. careful not to overlap 02:04:681 (1)

[Hard]

00:11:302 (3,1) - ahhhh... these sliders should have been the same. it would have made such pretty symmetry ;-; you COULD try something like

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and then move 00:13:785 (1,2,3,4,1) accordingly. (the only thing that would be affected is the distance 00:15:440 (1,2). which is not a big deal at all) brilliant. fixed

00:19:371 (2) - very subtle: slider head to 168,264. this will make 00:18:543 (3,1,2) a triangle, which is much more pretty in my opinion. k
00:39:233 (2,4) - too close. 4 goes to 136,264 kk

00:41:302 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - distance? maybe move 00:42:957 (4,1,2,3) - left a little i dont understand lel

01:19:992 (1,2,3,4) - right now 01:19:992 (1,2) and 01:20:819 (3,4) appear to look too close while 01:20:406 (2,3) appear too far. make it so that they appear to look the same distance apart by ignoring distance snap.

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then fix 01:21:647 (1) obviously k

02:03:440 (2,3) - i think these should blanket. I don't see why they shouldn't k

[pkmnyab's Normal]
fine lies ;o

[Easy]

00:42:337 (2,3) - for some reason these appear closer than the rest. I think 00:42:337 (2) one grid down to 352,240 k
03:02:612 (2,4) - maybe make these blanket? No one will ever notice when they actually play, but just because...you know..prettiness k


I skipped lunch to mod this ;w; I hope you're happy yes im happy <3

Kibbleru wrote:

00:41:302 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - distance? maybe move 00:42:957 (4,1,2,3) - left a little i dont understand lel

Kibbleru wrote:

[pkmnyab's Normal]
fine lies ;o

examination wrote:

Hihi~~ From my modding Queue~

[pkymnab's Normal]
03:16:267 (5) - Aimod says it is not snapped! oops, I don't know how this happened, but fixed


01:09:233 (2) - Make it a 1/2 slider to feel more comfortable. alright, done
01:51:233 (5,6,7) - Maybe it feels better in this way.

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I want to keep it the way it is because I like the normal difficulty repeat sliders to have no more than one repeat
02:33:648 (4) - Make it 2 circles to follow the pattern here 02:31:993 (1,2) And after that also consider change the patterns following 02:34:475 (5,1,2,3,4,5) I have slider instead of two circles because the vocal is noticeably different. For the two circles the vocal isn't stretched while during the sliders the vocal is stretched,
03:19:164 (5) - After my calculate It should be at x:376 y:240 ('w') fixed
03:27:854 (1,2,3) - Oh a regular triangle ;w; ;o;

No big problems ~~~ Good Job~
I'll shoot a star here ww~
I can't wait to see it ranked ;w;

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