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Irreversible
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 14. März 2013 at 22:06:21

Artist: ZUN
Title: Old Yuanshen
Source: Touhou
Tags: Seiga Kaku Irreversible Parachute DakeDekaane
BPM: 174
Filesize: 5722kb
Play Time: 01:38
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dekaane's Hard (4.92 stars, 249 notes)
  2. Easy (1.03 stars, 78 notes)
  3. Normal (3.33 stars, 140 notes)
  4. Overdrive (5 stars, 494 notes)
  5. Para's Lunatic (5 stars, 383 notes)
Download: ZUN - Old Yuanshen
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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:)
Easy - 100%, no hitsounds
Normal - 100%, no hitsounds
Dekaane's Hard (by DakeDekaane) - 100%
Overdrive - 100%
Para's Lunatic (by Parachute)- 100%
Thanks to RLC, Parachute and DakeDekaane
Akareh
Hi!
You called for M4M in-game, let's go!
All my mods are just suggestions, feel free to disagree, but tell me why if you do, please.

  • General

    Remove your nick form the tags, it's not needed. Add Ten Desires to the tags.
  • Easy

    Circle size -1?

    00:10:320 (2) - Overlapping isn't a good idea in lower diffs, I would suggest you to try and not overlap this with the previous slider.
    00:21:355 (1) - Second point of the slider 6 grids left and 1 down.

    nothing more, good diff.
  • Normal

    Since this is a short map you could add +1 to OD, not neccessary, though.

    00:04:803 (1) - You shouldn't make more than 1 repeat on diffs below hard, as it's hard to read for newbies. You can leave 2 repeats at some parts, but it's not recommended.
    00:21:355 (1) - Overlap, you should avoid this.
    00:55:665 (1) - Lots of repeats for a normal, consider changing this to another pattern. If you want to leave it as is (which you shouldn't) end the slider at 00:56:355
    01:06:700 (1) - ^ . If you want to leave it as is, end it at 01:07:389.
    01:13:079 (1) - ^
    01:18:596 (7) - ^
    01:21:700 (5) - Overlap, why don't you move this to x:256 y:240? It fits quite well there.
    01:26:010 (5) - again, lots of repeats
  • Dekaane's Hard

    Drain rate +1, OD +1

    00:19:803 (3) - mmm... why don't you make it like this? http://puu.sh/1TpiA (of course, if you do that you'll have to respace 00:20:894 (1))
    00:52:389 (3) - Something like this? http://puu.sh/1TpkC
    00:55:838 (2) - Remove this, move 3 to 00:55:838 and 4 to 00:56:182 (and respace this pattern)
    01:06:873 (2) - ^
    01:01:527 (1) - End this slider at 01:01:700
  • Para's Lunatic

    Hitsounds are too low, aside from that I can't find anything special to remark. Nice map.
  • Overdrive

    Sorry, but I'm not good enough to play this, much less mod it.
Nice map, good luck with it!
I'll shoot a star when i have it, lol
DakeDekaane

Akareh wrote:

  • Dekaane's Hard

    Drain rate +1, OD +1 /*I'll take HPD +1, I'll keep OD until some one else suggests something about this.

    00:19:803 (3) - mmm... why don't you make it like this? http://puu.sh/1TpiA (of course, if you do that you'll have to respace 00:20:894 (1)) /*I want to keep that symmetric, adding that the flow there is nice.
    00:52:389 (3) - Something like this? http://puu.sh/1TpkC /*Fixed in another way, I found that part a bit squeezed due to it is in the edge of the map
    00:55:838 (2) - Remove this, move 3 to 00:55:838 and 4 to 00:56:182 (and respace this pattern) /*I'm following piano there, and it's a fun and playable pattern.
    01:06:873 (2) - ^ /*^
    01:01:527 (1) - End this slider at 01:01:700 /*Added a repeat instead.
Thanks o/ Update here: http://puu.sh/1UuYJ
Nichiyouki


Hi, Irreversible

M4M request in pm in-game
My map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/70967

Red = Unrankable
Blue = You should modified
Black = My suggestion

General

  1. The bitrate for ZUN - OLD YUANSHEN.mp3 is 320 kb/s. You must adjust this file by it should not exceed 192 kb/s.
  2. Move preview time of all diffs except for Para's Lunatic diff to 18596, to same as Para's Lunatic diff.
  3. Dekaane's Hard diff haven't source name which other diff are have it. You must add "Touhou" in source name on Dekaane's Hard diff.
  4. Tags in Dekaane's Hard s different with other diff, but other diff have you in tags, too. Please change tags in all diffs is "Seiga Kaku Parachute DakeDekaane"
  5. Please resnap 2 green line sections on start and end of kiai time in all diffs, by start on 01:19:286, and end on 01:41:355.

Easy

  1. 00:15:838 (2,1) - Spacing between these is too close, please use spacing is 1.00x

    Comment: Good diff, but I think CS is too high for Easy diff. However, it hasn't problem for what you do.

Normal

  1. 00:15:838 (2,3) - Spacing between these is too close.
  2. 00:21:335 (1) - Slider (3) shouldn't stack with (1) because it will makes the player confused.
  3. 00:26:527 (5) - Same as previously. I suggest that move it to x:316 y:20.
  4. 00:28:596 (3,1) - Spacing is too far. Please fix it.
  5. 00:40:492 (5,1) - Use a slider instead of 2 circles.
  6. 00:43:769 (2) - Same as 00:21:335 (1).
  7. 00:46:182 (1,2,1) - Spacing between (1,2) is too far. Please reduce spacing by move 2nd and last point of this slider. Then try to make 00:48:941 (1) by make to this code.
    336,100,46182,6,0,P|431:96|328:280,1,440
    256,192,47907,2,0,P|256:320,2,110
    176,100,48941,6,0,P|81:96|184:280,1,440
  8. 00:59:796 (8,1) - Add NC on (8), but remove it on (1) to following the rhythm.
  9. 01:18:251 (6) - Same as 00:21:335 (1).
  10. 01:36:010 (2) - I think remove a note be better.

    Comment: This diff has many overlapping notes, and NC I feel that it was not associated with rhythm which on my modding, I will not said NC more than this. So you should consider what I mentioned.

Dekaane's Hard

  1. 00:05:493 (3) - Try to make slider is curve more than this. If you have no idea, may move (2) to x:240 y:172. Then make to this code?
    304,144,5493,2,0,P|364:108|392:44,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
  2. 00:30:665 (1,2) I don't like to put note overlap to slide of slider. I think that you should avoid it.
  3. 00:52:907 (4,5,6) - Speed of slider began to decrease. I think that you should stack these.
  4. 01:01:527 (1) - I try to listen in the rhythm. You should repeat this slider.
  5. 01:02:217 (1) - Remove NC on this, but add it on 01:02:734 (4) instead.
  6. 01:03:941 (7) - Add NC here.
  7. 01:13:079 (2) - ^

    Comment: It's look good, but may want more work.

Para's Lunatic

  1. 00:35:148 (1) - Move to down 1 grid to reduce spacing between this and next note.
  2. 00:42:045 (7) - Add NC here.
  3. 00:47:648 (7,8) - It's weird for me. Please remove this note. Then add NC on next note.
  4. 00:53:079 (5) - Add NC to following the rhythm.
  5. 00:53:769 (9) - Add NC here
  6. 00:54:458 (13) - Add NC?
  7. 00:57:045 (1,2) - Try to stack them because these have spacing 0.02x
  8. 00:58:596 (9) - Same as 00:53:079 (5)
  9. 00:58:769 (10,11) - Move to up 2 grids.
  10. 01:37:303 (9) - It's weird for me. Please remove this note.

    Comment: Same as Normal diff. NC want consider more than this.

Overdrive

  1. 00:24:113 (5) - Add NC to following the rhythm.

    Comment: Awesome

That's all that I can find them, and hope that my mod will be useful for you.
Note: I would not say the hitsound because you said ><

Good luck~
DakeDekaane

Nichiyouki wrote:

Dekaane's Hard

  1. 00:05:493 (3) - Try to make slider is curve more than this. If you have no idea, may move (2) to x:240 y:172. Then make to this code? /*Nice one, done.
    304,144,5493,2,0,P|364:108|392:44,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
  2. 00:30:665 (1,2) I don't like to put note overlap to slide of slider. I think that you should avoid it. /*Moved away.
  3. 00:52:907 (4,5,6) - Speed of slider began to decrease. I think that you should stack these. /*It'd break the flow, it never stopped in parts like this.
  4. 01:01:527 (1) - I try to listen in the rhythm. You should repeat this slider. /*Already reversed (Update pls)
  5. 01:02:217 (1) - Remove NC on this, but add it on 01:02:734 (4) instead. /* (1,2,3,4) are in the same part of the melody, I don't change this.
  6. 01:03:941 (7) - Add NC here. /*Done
  7. 01:13:079 (2) - ^ /*It is already (1) o3o

    Comment: It's look good, but may want more work.

Good luck~
Thanks for modding, update is here: http://puu.sh/1VrKx
Topic Starter
Irreversible
Thanks for the mod, i'll do it tomorrow :3

Also i'll mod your map tomrrow as well :)
NewRulerNA
hi
found some issues. you must change those.

[General]
  1. preview time is not same between diff. you must change it.
  2. tag and source is same as above.
  3. your mp3 is 320kbps. you must change 128~192kbps. use this.
[Normal]
  1. 01:03:078 (2) - unsnapped note.
[Overdrive]
  1. 00:51:700 - two inherited timing sections. you must remove one.

    Ranking Criteria wrote:

    No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.
gl
Parachute

Nichiyouki wrote:



Hi, Irreversible

M4M request in pm in-game
My map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/70967

Red = Unrankable
Blue = You should modified
Black = My suggestion

General

  1. The bitrate for ZUN - OLD YUANSHEN.mp3 is 320 kb/s. You must adjust this file by it should not exceed 192 kb/s.
  2. Move preview time of all diffs except for Para's Lunatic diff to 18596, to same as Para's Lunatic diff.
  3. Dekaane's Hard diff haven't source name which other diff are have it. You must add "Touhou" in source name on Dekaane's Hard diff.
  4. Tags in Dekaane's Hard s different with other diff, but other diff have you in tags, too. Please change tags in all diffs is "Seiga Kaku Parachute DakeDekaane"
  5. Please resnap 2 green line sections on start and end of kiai time in all diffs, by start on 01:19:286, and end on 01:41:355.

Easy

  1. 00:15:838 (2,1) - Spacing between these is too close, please use spacing is 1.00x

    Comment: Good diff, but I think CS is too high for Easy diff. However, it hasn't problem for what you do.

Normal

  1. 00:15:838 (2,3) - Spacing between these is too close.
  2. 00:21:335 (1) - Slider (3) shouldn't stack with (1) because it will makes the player confused.
  3. 00:26:527 (5) - Same as previously. I suggest that move it to x:316 y:20.
  4. 00:28:596 (3,1) - Spacing is too far. Please fix it.
  5. 00:40:492 (5,1) - Use a slider instead of 2 circles.
  6. 00:43:769 (2) - Same as 00:21:335 (1).
  7. 00:46:182 (1,2,1) - Spacing between (1,2) is too far. Please reduce spacing by move 2nd and last point of this slider. Then try to make 00:48:941 (1) by make to this code.
    336,100,46182,6,0,P|431:96|328:280,1,440
    256,192,47907,2,0,P|256:320,2,110
    176,100,48941,6,0,P|81:96|184:280,1,440
  8. 00:59:796 (8,1) - Add NC on (8), but remove it on (1) to following the rhythm.
  9. 01:18:251 (6) - Same as 00:21:335 (1).
  10. 01:36:010 (2) - I think remove a note be better.

    Comment: This diff has many overlapping notes, and NC I feel that it was not associated with rhythm which on my modding, I will not said NC more than this. So you should consider what I mentioned.

Dekaane's Hard

  1. 00:05:493 (3) - Try to make slider is curve more than this. If you have no idea, may move (2) to x:240 y:172. Then make to this code?
    304,144,5493,2,0,P|364:108|392:44,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
  2. 00:30:665 (1,2) I don't like to put note overlap to slide of slider. I think that you should avoid it.
  3. 00:52:907 (4,5,6) - Speed of slider began to decrease. I think that you should stack these.
  4. 01:01:527 (1) - I try to listen in the rhythm. You should repeat this slider.
  5. 01:02:217 (1) - Remove NC on this, but add it on 01:02:734 (4) instead.
  6. 01:03:941 (7) - Add NC here.
  7. 01:13:079 (2) - ^

    Comment: It's look good, but may want more work.

Para's Lunatic

  1. 00:35:148 (1) - Move to down 1 grid to reduce spacing between this and next note.
  2. 00:42:045 (7) - Add NC here.
  3. 00:47:648 (7,8) - It's weird for me. Please remove this note. Then add NC on next note. uhm.. no o: but i added a nc
  4. 00:53:079 (5) - Add NC to following the rhythm.
  5. 00:53:769 (9) - Add NC here
  6. 00:54:458 (13) - Add NC?
  7. 00:57:045 (1,2) - Try to stack them because these have spacing 0.02x
  8. 00:58:596 (9) - Same as 00:53:079 (5)
  9. 00:58:769 (10,11) - Move to up 2 grids.
  10. 01:37:303 (9) - It's weird for me. Please remove this note. this definitely not ^^

    changed all other things i think, thanks :3

    Comment: Same as Normal diff. NC want consider more than this.

Overdrive

  1. 00:24:113 (5) - Add NC to following the rhythm.

    Comment: Awesome

That's all that I can find them, and hope that my mod will be useful for you.
Note: I would not say the hitsound because you said ><

Good luck~
Yuki-kun
Hi~
M4M~ :D

> General <
+ Please note that maximum bitrate of mp3 file is 192 kbps, your current is 320 kbps
+ Please end all diff at same time.
+ Inconsistency in PreviewTime:

- [Dekaane's Hard] : 18591
- [Easy] : 18591
- [Normal] : 18591
- [Overdrive] : 18591
- [Para's Lunatic] : 18596

+ Inconsistency in Source (Check in F4):
- [Dekaane's Hard] :
- [Easy] : Touhou
- [Normal] : Touhou
- [Overdrive] : Touhou
- [Para's Lunatic] : Touhou

+ Inconsistency in Tags:
- [Dekaane's Hard] : Parachute ZUN Touhou 13 Irreversible Old Yuanshen DakeDekaane
- [Easy] : Seiga Kaku Irreversible Parachute DakeDekaane
- [Normal] : Seiga Kaku Irreversible Parachute DakeDekaane
- [Overdrive] : Seiga Kaku Irreversible Parachute DakeDekaane
- [Para's Lunatic] : Seiga Kaku Irreversible Parachute DakeDekaane


+ Inconsistency in Kiai Times:

- [Dekaane's Hard] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:288, ends on 01:41:357

- [Easy] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:288, ends on 01:41:357

- [Normal] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:288, ends on 01:41:357

- [Overdrive] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:288, ends on 01:41:357

- [Para's Lunatic] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:281, ends on 01:41:350

+ Consider adding "Dekaane" to all of your tags

> My mod <
[Dekaane's Hard]
- Non-Downbeat Kiai Times:
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:288, ends on 01:41:357. Move to 01:19:286 and 01:41:355
01:35:665 (1) - Remove NC
01:35:838 (2) - NC here.

[Para's Lunatic]
- Non-Downbeat Kiai Times
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:281, ends on 01:41:350. Move to 01:19:286 and 01:41:355
- OD +1 please. Do not use low OD in Lunatic diff.
00:13:079 (1) - Unecessary timing point (start of slider)
00:15:148 (4) - ^ (at the repeat)
00:45:838 (2) - Add whistle here.
00:50:320 (8) - NC here.
00:51:010 (1) - Remove NC.
00:51:355 (4) - NC here. This is ex-jumping part.
00:53:769 (1) - NC here. Another jump.
00:58:596 (9) - NC here.
01:13:079 (7) - ^
01:15:838 (9) - ^
01:20:665 (7) - ^
01:26:182 (7) - ^

[Overdrive]
- Non-Downbeat Kiai Times:
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:288, ends on 01:41:357. Move to 01:19:286 and 01:41:355
01:00:665 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Do now reduce volume in this. So weird :o
01:04:458 (1) - Remove NC. Not necessary to NC here.
01:05:148 (8) - ^
01:10:666 (1) - ^
01:15:838 (10) - NC here. Since your OD and drain a bit high, do not use long combo or player can die.
01:19:286 (6) - ^
01:21:355 (7) - ^
01:33:596 (7) - ^

[Normal]
- Same error in Kiat time with those diff above.
- Please add hitsound for this diff.

[Easy]
- Same error in Kiat time with those diff above.
- Please add hitsound for this diff.

That's all i can found.
Good luck.
DakeDekaane

Yuki-kun wrote:

Hi~
M4M~ :D
> My mod <
[Dekaane's Hard]
- Non-Downbeat Kiai Times:
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:19:288, ends on 01:41:357. Move to 01:19:286 and 01:41:355 /*Fixed my Kiai
01:35:665 (1) - Remove NC /*This part (1) and (2) is mapped in 1/3, it's a single part in the melody and it would look weird if (1) belongs to another combo.
01:35:838 (2) - NC here. /*^

That's all i can found.
Good luck.
Thanks for modding, also fixed the source and tags in my diff.

Update here~ http://puu.sh/1Yfdy
Gloria Guard
Hi Irrversilble ^^/

From my modding queue :)

[Easy]

00:15:148 (1,2) This is slider blanket please http://puu.sh/1Z3jF <- this

00:21:010 (2,1) blanket please -> http://puu.sh/1Z3lW

00:23:424 (2,3) blanket too -> http://puu.sh/1Z3nd


[Normal]

00:25:493 (2) stack !

00:26:527 (5) ^

00:47:907 (2) Ctrl+G ? This flow of good leads to more

00:48:941 (1) ^

01:17:217 (3) this is note Slider is obscured -> http://puu.sh/1Z3yy change?

01:32:389 (5) Stack !


[Dekaane's Hard]

00:52:907 (4,5,6) specing -> http://puu.sh/1Z3DH change please

00:53:596 (1) remove slider and add note?

00:59:200 (2,3,4) This beat seems to be more appropriate -> http://puu.sh/1Z3FB

01:03:251 (5) remove slider and add note ?

01:03:941 (7) ^ Hard is difficult for players

01:04:631 (9) ^

01:09:951 (1,2,3,4) specing -> http://puu.sh/1Z3Ld change please

01:26:010 (1) remove slider and add note, Hard is difficult for players

01:31:527 (7) ^

01:31:286 (6) ^

01:35:665 (1) remove slider and add note, Hard is difficult for players.. too


[Para's Lunatic]

Nice diff


[Overdrive]

00:09:976 (7) Stack!

00:20:924 (7,8,9) specing

00:22:389 (2,3) stack!

00:32:045 (6,7) ^

00:43:596 (2) ^

00:46:527 (7) stack!

00:49:286 OMG.. Stack..

00:53:682 (6,7,8) ^ too


Good Luck.
DakeDekaane

Gloria Guard wrote:

Hi Irrversilble ^^/

From my modding queue :)

[Dekaane's Hard]
00:52:907 (4,5,6) specing -> http://puu.sh/1Z3DH change please /*It's already fixed in last version (Irre update pls :c)
00:53:596 (1) remove slider and add note? /*Done
00:59:200 (2,3,4) This beat seems to be more appropriate -> http://puu.sh/1Z3FB /*Done
01:03:251 (5) remove slider and add note ? /*Done
01:03:941 (7) ^ Hard is difficult for players /*Done
01:04:631 (9) ^ /*Done
01:09:951 (1,2,3,4) specing -> http://puu.sh/1Z3Ld change please /*Changed in something like patterns before
01:26:010 (1) remove slider and add note, Hard is difficult for players /*Done
01:31:527 (7) ^ /*I'll keep this as this goes along with the piano
01:31:286 (6) ^ /*^
01:35:665 (1) remove slider and add note, Hard is difficult for players.. too /*^
Good Luck.
Thanks for modding :3

New update: http://puu.sh/1Z7yv
Jinxy
Note: Some of these are repeated from previous mods because they are against ranking criteria and must be changed. Those in bold are important.

[Basic Stuff]
mp3 must be at most 192kbps. You've already been asked to change this four times from previous mods. Check this thread on how to do it.
Audio preview is inconsistent. All should be 18596ms I believe, so it's snapped to the white tick.

[Easy]
01:18:596 (2) - Whoa there, I really don't think this 1/3 is a good idea, tbh. I can hear what it's mapped to, but it's very faint and the 1/3 will catch newbs off guard. I suggest removing it entirely.

[Normal]
...Where are the hitsounds? It sounds very plain with nothing.
01:03:079 (2) - According to AImod, this isn't snapped. Click on the end slider point once to snap it, then run AImod to check if it's fixed.
01:06:700 (1) - Reduce by one repeat, because the tune ends 1/2 a beat earlier.
01:31:700 (3) - This beat is completely off. I suggest removing it and making (2) a slider that ends at 01:31:441.
01:33:079 (1) - Same as above. Maybe make this start at 01:33:424, then make 01:32:389 (5) a slider that ends at 01:32:820.

[Para's Lunatic]
Tick rate 2 isn't necessary. I can count the sliders that are long enough to have a tick on one hand, and all of them don't have an audible beat when the tick happens. Just use tick rate 1.
Kiai isn't snapped to the downbeat (79281ms instead of 79286ms), and doesn't end at the same time as the last beat (101350 instead of 101355).

[Overdrive]
00:51:700 has 2 inherited timing sections. Remove one of them.
Topic Starter
Irreversible
I know, i didn't change anything so far u__u' i ahd no time, and i wanted to concentrate on my dreamin map.
Thanks for the mod, i'll change it asap!
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