tatatat wrote:

Why? Freedom, and memorization. Having the OPTION to be able to use up to 20x SV only gives you the freedom to use it. You don't have to use 20x SVs if you don't want to (and you likely won't). The main reason to being able to use 20x SVs (at least in my opinion) is being able to make memorization gimmicks. Where a section repeats itself, but on the repeat it uses unreadable SVs. Right now, thats severly limited. simple patterns at 4x SV are still quite possible to read, and the same goes for 10x. While 10x is pushing the limit for what is readable, the point of having a memorization gimmick is to have the repeated part be nearly/completely unreadable. 10x SV doesn't cut it.

Faputa wrote:

In my defense, tatatat, your mapset https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/960656#taiko/2011221 builds in the assumption that people are prepared for repeating patterns. In fact, no. Unless you give accurate vocal or graphical instructions to the players, they can never understand such patterns without checking replays and the editor or wild-guessing.

And to elaborate, no another mode allows it doesn’t mean this mode should allow so. That is a faulty logic. We can put notes within spinner in taiko if we follow this logic. Mania have hold notes + press notes, technically taiko *can* have spinners + hitting notes, but does that make sense for this mode? Some gameplay concepts are suitable for different modes but some aren’t.

Backing to my first paragraph, no if the music doesn’t specifically instruct to repeat ‘dons’ and ‘kats’ or it will lead to confusion. ‘Right’ doesn’t specifically mean to hit don.

And what about abekobes? Players are either trying to repeat notes or reverse notes, or they just don’t understand what the map is doing when they first try it, which I will not accept as it is unclear for players, similar to burai sliders in STD