This applies to the background as well.Mithost wrote:
t's like going to an art museum and ripping up half of their painting, just because you feel you can appreciate the work better without the part you removed.
Soulclenz wrote:
I miss the days when people didn't mind having backgrounds displaying while they played =(.
I'm still here...enjoying myselfSoulclenz wrote:
I miss the days when people didn't mind having backgrounds displaying while they played =(.
That's pretty much it. If you feel a map really can't be played with the visual elements, ask the BAT who ranked it for clarification, and possibly a request to change the visual element.those wrote:
This applies to the background as well.Mithost wrote:
t's like going to an art museum and ripping up half of their painting, just because you feel you can appreciate the work better without the part you removed.
I don't even know where to begin with this. I'm not going to try to contest the rule stating modifying maps will be labelled cheating, but I still disagree with it.Mithost wrote:
It is (or will soon be) against the rules to edit the contents of a beatmap in any way. You cannot argue this fact. We understand that some skins are an issue in maps but as you can see, they are being addressed. Just don't play the maps if you don't want to play them the way the creator intended you to do. For the mapper, it's like going to an art museum and ripping up half of their painting, just because you feel you can appreciate the work better without the part you removed.
Plus it creates an unfair advantage for those who WANT to play the map like it was meant to.If you don't want to get ahead, you deserve to be left behind. That's nobody's fault but your own. Why does imposing a handicap on yourself have to drag down those who don't want to?
You would compare this to hacking? Last I checked, nothing between the client or the server was being altered. Again, this is more along the lines of editing the UI (which WoW players do in fact do) in order to make things like battlegrounds and raids more manageable. That is not against the rules, nor is it unfair—it's available to everybody.Soulclenz wrote:
I guess Blizzard should just stop fixing exploits and allow maphacks to run rampant in their game so that players can be the best.
Why exactly would people not comment on a forum post?ThisManzzz wrote:
Holy crap, even though I said you did not need to reply, so many people replied. Anyway, I REALLY appreciate what Xiao said, as that was EXACTLY what I was thinking, but since I said "you don't need to reply..." I didn't want to reply -.-
And I'd like to go back to what I was saying... Again... I'm not talking about the fucking skins. I don't give a shit about the skins, I can easily beat the map and use "fun spoiler" to get rid of them. I'm talking about the background. I know that you're indirectly talking about it, but why not talk about it plainly? Just say "Why do you want that? Isn't it cheating? etc."
Also, I too do not consider it as cheating, BUT if people say it will be against the rules, or if and admin tells me I can't, or whatever, then I have nothing against it. One more thing, I only asked for a way to remove the playfield permanently on all maps, be it a third-party program or a setting, because I can easily see the notes in that case.
You seriously do not have to comment. I completely understand there is no way to do what it is I wanted to do, and I respect others' opinions on this matter.
Have my babies.Xiao wrote:
I don't even know where to begin with this. I'm not going to try to contest the rule stating modifying maps will be labelled cheating, but I still disagree with it.Mithost wrote:
It is (or will soon be) against the rules to edit the contents of a beatmap in any way. You cannot argue this fact. We understand that some skins are an issue in maps but as you can see, they are being addressed. Just don't play the maps if you don't want to play them the way the creator intended you to do. For the mapper, it's like going to an art museum and ripping up half of their painting, just because you feel you can appreciate the work better without the part you removed.
osu! is still the only rhythm game community I can think of that will frown upon attempting to elevate your gameplay to the next level. I dislike your analogie. osu! is not an art museum; it's a rhythm game with a built-in system for competitive/ranked play. I'd equate your analogy to making an Olympic 100m runner wear a frilly dress and hold streamers because the administration of the games dictates it's more honourable to the games, never mind being a hindrance to the actual finish time. I'm a designer by trade; I appreciate and understand the importance of artistic integrity, values and heritage. Yet I cannot for the life of me see why this has any part in a rhythm game.
DDR/ITG players started holding the bar to clear new boss songs that came along involving strenuous, prolonged movement that were prohibitively difficult without it. FFR players, before speedmods and rotation were enabled, would put pieces of paper on their screen or physically rotate their screen/keymaps to play a chart they'd have difficulty with in order to rank higher. DJMAX Technika players realized you could abuse the infrared sensors to bullshit streams by dragging instead of tapping as intended, or holding notes in order to glitch them causing them to register as hits. I don't even want to get started on O2Jam and double keyboard setups. All these methods were branded undesirable or just outright "cheating"—whether or not they actually were. People used these tactics regardless so long as it wasn't a bannable offense. They understand what it takes to be the best.
Long story short, it's completely absurd to me that so many people believe that impeding ability for a game that's attempting so hard to make ranked play a viable option is less important than forcing people to play with horribly designed imagery that neither adds to gameplay or enjoyment value. I'm sorry if you like watching a pulsating, flashing, rotating background while you're playing—because I sure as hell don't.
My last qualm:Plus it creates an unfair advantage for those who WANT to play the map like it was meant to.If you don't want to get ahead, you deserve to be left behind. That's nobody's fault but your own. Why does imposing a handicap on yourself have to drag down those who don't want to?
I guess my disagreement is why I don't post much on these forums at all. I'm almost tempted to refuse usage of my skins in maps because of this mentality.