5050 - Jungle P (TV Size) · forum

bossandy

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Joined May 2010

bossandy 2012-07-27T10:02:30+00:00

AIR315 wrote:
Hello~

From bossandy is request

[Boss Taiko Oni]

建議SV調成1.4......因為這首歌的BPM不算很慢lol 所以建議用1.4就好了>_>

00:05:535 (3) - 改成k感覺比較好:33 感覺d比較合音樂 lol

00:18:052 (1) - 改成d感覺比較好:33 摁我覺得k感覺比較順的說

00:23:535 - 加一個k? 這裡我是跟音樂的說算了加個k跟vocal >w<b

00:32:225 (1) - 感覺用d好很多呢=w= 恩... 這裡用k是跟著vocal 所以覺得k應該還好的說

00:32:639 (1) - 用k吧:33 (上面的有改這個再改>_>) 恩~

00:33:259 (1,1,1) - dkd感覺較好:33 恩感覺不錯 xD

00:43:604 (2) - 改成d吧~ 哇你這mod提醒到我 00:43:397 (1,2) - 改成dk比較好的說跟著vocal :3

00:50:225 (2) - 用d試試看? 跟vocal的說 :3

01:29:949 (2) - d感覺比較好>_> 01:29:742 (1,2) - dk here xD

01:47:328 (1,1,2,1,1,2,1) - kdddkdd比較好吧lol kddkddk感覺有點怪...... 其實本來沒有01:47:535 (2,1) - 的說但是BARRY覺得加了比較好所以...略

01:49:708 - 加個k在這感覺打起來更好:33 沒跟到音樂或vocal咱是不會加note的 (~~本人不喜歡rendom put lol!~~

01:51:363 - ^ same~

01:53:018 - ^ same too ~

01:54:673 - 加個d嗎? same~

01:54:777 (2) - 改成k感覺較好>_> (上面的有改這個在改:33) 上面雖然沒改但是這改成k感覺不錯 xD

01:56:328 - 加個d吧:33 same

01:56:432 (1) - 改成k? (上面的有改這個在改:33) 我改!

01:57:777 - 加個d在這嗎? 恩恩! 這抓的好

01:58:190 - 加個k在這? 沒加的說 ~~我有家xD! (被打~~

02:13:087 - 加個k在這裡吧~ 恩恩少加了

02:26:742 - 加個d? 音樂沒有所以沒加 >_<~

02:27:983 - ^ 這個加了

大概就這樣lol

恩......整體來看還算不錯~ \:D/

不過有些地方我覺得再加些note會更好xD

祝早日Ranked拉=w=~

Thanks for your Taiko mod !!! ~~

P.S to BARRY : 對了順便加Boss進去tags裡面 :3 nickname

Boss Taiko Oni

osu file format v9

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Title:Jungle P (TV Size)
Artist:5050
Creator:12BARRY21
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Tags:Five Zero Fifty Opening Luffy Zoro Nami Usopp Sanji Chopper Robin Franky Brook L_P No_Gu bossandy

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Dino99

1,811 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Dino99 2012-07-27T10:17:05+00:00

Updated~~

Sun Rainbow

1,383 posts

Joined January 2011

Sun Rainbow 2012-07-28T01:52:25+00:00

我是骗KD的大笨蛋（逃

09:39 Sun_Rainbow: : 昨天真是对不起啊
09:39 Sun_Rainbow: : 因为我老妈突然回来
09:40 12BARRY21: : 恩..
09:40 Sun_Rainbow: : 我们昨天是到NORMAL吧？
09:40 Sun_Rainbow: : 不是
09:40 Sun_Rainbow: : 是INSANE吧……
09:41 12BARRY21: : 好像是>_> 我沒savelog耶..
09:41 Sun_Rainbow: : 00:23:535 (1,2,3,4) - 这里
09:41 Sun_Rainbow: : 我被吐槽过说是UNRANKBLE……
09:42 Sun_Rainbow: : 00:28:501 (4) -
09:42 Sun_Rainbow: : 这里我完全听不出来是1/8QAQ
09:42 Sun_Rainbow: : 00:35:535-
09:42 Sun_Rainbow: : 这里开始的音效你可以用纯白ED那个咚咚咚的
09:43 Sun_Rainbow: : 00:41:742 (5) -
09:43 Sun_Rainbow: : 还是听不出来是1/8
09:43 12BARRY21: : 恩..
09:44 12BARRY21: : 你聽力太差了=w=
09:44 Sun_Rainbow: : 01:19:604- +Note?
09:44 12BARRY21: : 呵呵
09:44 12BARRY21: : 等等喔..
09:44 Sun_Rainbow: : 不然好空= =
09:44 Sun_Rainbow: : 我不是用耳机的= =
09:44 Sun_Rainbow: : 可能是效果音大过音乐了吧
09:45 12BARRY21: : 0.0
09:45 Sun_Rainbow: : 01:55:811 (4,5,6) - 这里你是想坑死多少新手
09:46 Sun_Rainbow: : 01:58:708 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 同
09:46 12BARRY21: : 這是I..
09:46 12BARRY21: : 是給觸手玩的啦=w=
09:46 Sun_Rainbow: : 02:28:087 (7) - 这里
09:47 Sun_Rainbow: : 滑条我觉得折返两次然后NOTE就好啦
09:47 Sun_Rainbow: : 不然不像I了
09:47 Sun_Rainbow: : 还有
09:47 12BARRY21: : 可是這樣挺不錯呀0.0
09:47 Sun_Rainbow: : 要不要在这里多个烟花？
09:47 12BARRY21: : 加速..
09:47 Sun_Rainbow: : ...
09:47 Sun_Rainbow: : 要不要在这里多个烟花？......
09:47 12BARRY21: : 應該不用吧>_>
09:47 Sun_Rainbow: : 要是我我觉得我会用
09:48 Sun_Rainbow: : 你做I好厉害
09:48 12BARRY21: : 恩~ 再想想看><
09:48 12BARRY21: : 謝誇獎:3
09:48 Sun_Rainbow: : 我昨天就被说我作图好挤= =
09:48 Sun_Rainbow: : 郁闷死我了
09:48 12BARRY21: : 多做吧>_>
09:48 Sun_Rainbow: : = =
09:48 Sun_Rainbow: : 昨天一个小时的时间都用来上FIONANA的课了= =
09:49 12BARRY21: : =3=
09:49 Sun_Rainbow: : 我记得我有做过海贼王的OP3
09:49 Sun_Rainbow: : OP7
09:49 12BARRY21: : 你savelog貼上去唄0.0 我給kd~
09:49 12BARRY21: : 是喔0.0

those

3,136 posts

Joined November 2010

those 2012-07-29T17:31:08+00:00

Thanks for the mod! Higher bpm songs fit your mapping style more

[General]

Minor thing about the first break - see if you'd like to make the break end at 00:21:466 - by dragging the end to that white; it's the beginning of the triplet rhythm and it would make sense to have the break end there.

[Easy]

Diff is mostly 1/1 patterns, and ticks give 143 of the 443 combo. I would reduce tick rate to 1 for both reasons.
00:58:708 (1) - A little bit more accuracy in placing your anchor would be nice. Time is 00:59:121 - , or center on slider tick.
01:40:087 (3) - Same with this one; time for anchor is 01:40:914 - .
02:08:225 (1,2) - Corresponding sliders like these would look great if they were symmetrical.

[Normal]

Like the suggestions for Easy, check which anchored sliders have anchors that can be placed at a better place in time and space. For example, 01:20:225 (3) - should be anchored at 01:20:639 - .

[Hard]

00:30:156 (4,1) - Blanketing. http://puu.sh/MKTl
00:31:811 (5,1) - After two 1.6x jumps, stacking these cause a stalling effect, whereas repositioning (1) elsewhere may be more beneficial to overall flow.
00:36:570 (3,1) - Use 1.25x spacing like you have for 00:37:604 (1,2,3) - .
00:50:225 (1) - Try setting curving node to x:364 y:180 for better effect.

[Insane]

00:27:880 (3) - Something that irks me is that this isn't nearly similar to the configuration of (1) in any way, while you have 00:23:742 (2,4) - lining up nicely. If it were up to me I'd make (1,3) a 180 degree rotation of each other.
00:40:501 (1) - Peculiar thing about this stream is even though there's a section of overlap between (4,1), the slider will cause you to jerk in the opposite direction of the stream. If you participated in the discussion on Philippines' map Ubertreffen, there's a good example why it's not great. It's fine to move the stream sideways, but not in the opposite direction of the general stream direction.
00:44:225 (2,3,4,5,6) - Let's regulate your stream spacing throughout your map.
01:11:949 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Music doesn't exactly suggest that you use (1,2) (3,4) (5,6) as a threefold repeated pattern. Stresses are placed on each white tick, but the way you have it you emphasize every third beat, which means you are emphasizing white-red-white.
01:14:225 (1) - Best if this was made into a slider so it doesn't have to stack with (2) for that unwanted stalling, or stack a circle with (7) at 01:14:432 - .
02:00:983 (1) - Straight slider seems kinda bland.

Dino99

1,811 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Dino99 2012-07-30T10:39:49+00:00

those wrote:
Thanks for the mod! Higher bpm songs fit your mapping style more

[General]
Minor thing about the first break - see if you'd like to make the break end at 00:21:466 - by dragging the end to that white; it's the beginning of the triplet rhythm and it would make sense to have the break end there. Can't drag the break end...Orz
[Normal]
Like the suggestions for Easy, check which anchored sliders have anchors that can be placed at a better place in time and space. For example, 01:20:225 (3) - should be anchored at 01:20:639 - . Sorry but I think now is good!! I follow 01:20:845 -
[Insane]
00:27:880 (3) - Something that irks me is that this isn't nearly similar to the configuration of (1) in any way, while you have 00:23:742 (2,4) - lining up nicely. If it were up to me I'd make (1,3) a 180 degree rotation of each other. I think it's fine~ x3
00:40:501 (1) - Peculiar thing about this stream is even though there's a section of overlap between (4,1), the slider will cause you to jerk in the opposite direction of the stream. If you participated in the discussion on Philippines' map Ubertreffen, there's a good example why it's not great. It's fine to move the stream sideways, but not in the opposite direction of the general stream direction. Hmm...Here I want to symmetry. I think the stream is okay. Not really in opposite direction.. and not really bad.. So I don't want to fix this sorry.. :<
00:44:225 (2,3,4,5,6) - Let's regulate your stream spacing throughout your map. okay fixed the DS. change 0.6 DS (Same as 00:31:190 (3,4,5,6,7) - )
01:11:949 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Music doesn't exactly suggest that you use (1,2) (3,4) (5,6) as a threefold repeated pattern. Stresses are placed on each white tick, but the way you have it you emphasize every third beat, which means you are emphasizing white-red-white.
Sorry but I like now, I think it plays fun~
01:14:225 (1) - Best if this was made into a slider so it doesn't have to stack with (2) for that unwanted stalling, or stack a circle with (7) at 01:14:432 - .
Sorry but I think stack here fit tht music~
02:00:983 (1) - Straight slider seems kinda bland. oh, But I think it's okay x3

Thanks mod!!~

Last edited by Dino99 2012-07-31T03:52:50+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

L_P

1,370 posts

Joined July 2011

L_P 2012-07-31T03:03:25+00:00

those wrote:
[Easy]
Diff is mostly 1/1 patterns, and ticks give 143 of the 443 combo. I would reduce tick rate to 1 for both reasons.
ok, good one...never think of it before...
00:58:708 (1) - A little bit more accuracy in placing your anchor would be nice. Time is 00:59:121 - , or center on slider tick. orz
01:40:087 (3) - Same with this one; time for anchor is 01:40:914 - . orz
02:08:225 (1,2) - Corresponding sliders like these would look great if they were symmetrical. no for this, it is still pretty nice to play for me..

http://puu.sh/NdeB

thanks for the mod, updated barry

Dino99

1,811 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Dino99 2012-08-02T22:43:46+00:00

those wrote:
[Hard]
00:30:156 (4,1) - Blanketing. http://puu.sh/MKTl fixed
00:31:811 (5,1) - After two 1.6x jumps, stacking these cause a stalling effect, whereas repositioning (1) elsewhere may be more beneficial to overall flow.
Sorry but I think it's fine now, fit the music~
00:36:570 (3,1) - Use 1.25x spacing like you have for 00:37:604 (1,2,3) - . no..
00:50:225 (1) - Try setting curving node to x:364 y:180 for better effect. Okay~

Because Gu is AFK now.. I help him to fix the mod~ (With my opinion)

Last edited by Dino99 2012-08-04T18:56:24+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

wmfchris

osu! Alumni

5,072 posts

Joined March 2008

wmfchris 2012-08-04T12:21:19+00:00

~

[Taiko]
00:01:604 - vocal starts here so d here?
00:07:811 - don't feel like it's accent here, remove finish
00:54:156 - ^
01:37:397 - unlike other 2-plets this is placed in the ending of a sentences and hence sounds odd there
01:47:328 - patterns 3 in a group does not fit 1/4 based songs, try kkddkdk

被串限制了大圓的擺法不過聽上去ok

bossandy

osu! Alumni

1,665 posts

Joined May 2010

bossandy 2012-08-06T14:59:56+00:00

wmfchris wrote:
~

[Taiko]
00:01:604 - vocal starts here so d here? I follow music here
00:07:811 - don't feel like it's accent here, remove finish ok
00:54:156 - ^ same
01:37:397 - unlike other 2-plets this is placed in the ending of a sentences and hence sounds odd there changed
01:47:328 - patterns 3 in a group does not fit 1/4 based songs, try kkddkdk ok sounds not bad

被串限制了大圓的擺法不過聽上去ok

謝了x2

Boss Taiko Oni

osu file format v9

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 48052
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4

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Title:Jungle P (TV Size)
Artist:5050
Creator:12BARRY21
Version:Boss Taiko Oni
Source:One Piece
Tags:Five Zero Fifty Opening Luffy Zoro Nami Usopp Sanji Chopper Robin Franky Brook L_P No_Gu bossandy Boss gudbye

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:2

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
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Breeze 2012-08-12T04:43:10+00:00

2min30s TV size, whao

I just don't agree with the timing
I've got a offset 770(-7 from yours)

If you agree with this timing, resnap all notes and timing sections, then PM me for a rebubble

EDIT : Since it's a timing change, so sorry I could only rebubble it

Dino99

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Dino99 2012-08-12T13:09:57+00:00

Thanks Breeze!!~~ x33

grumd

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grumd 2012-08-19T09:35:02+00:00

I've found some readability and note placement issues in Insane so let's mod it.

Insane

— Mapping

00:04:494 (4) - If you listen to vocals at this slider, you will hear that they are going louder at the slider end. But when you are playing, you press the button at slider start and almost do nothing at slider end. You must emphasize the vocals and place the slider at 00:04:701. You placed another slider very well at 00:03:873 (1) - it fits the vocals perfectly, but this one misses much of good possibilities. Try something like this: (hope this screenshot is useful at least a bit)
SPOILER
00:50:425 (1) - After this note, you place your triple on the different from first kiai place. The same happens on the first measure of the second kiai, but that one fits anyway. Here, I suggest you to move the triple because it matches vocals very good in first kiai. Remove note from here 00:51:149 - and add it here 00:50:735. Possible pattern for this: stack the triple under 00:50:632 (2) - , stack 00:51:045 (5) - under the sliderend of 00:50:011 (6) -
SPOILER
00:53:735 (1,2) - This part is a lack of readability. You firstly use white-to-white tick slider, and suddenly start the stream at the offbeat blue tick. You must change few things here in my opinion.
1. 00:53:942 this place need a note due to vocals. I can hear "tee~" on this red tick.
2.1. I suggest you to watch Charles' video about changins "polarity" − changing from white to blue tick rhythm. You must start a slider at the white tick and end it at 00:54:356 to make it more readable. Here is the video: p/886070
2.2. This is alternative. As I could hear, there is also a drum sound (pretty quiet) at 00:54:356, so you surely could add a note there. But then you will mis that awesome blue tick rhythm, so I suggest 2.1.
To sum up, this part can be played if you know that here starts offbeat blue tick stream, but most of players don't know this at their first play and sometimes can't get the rhythm at even 3-4 reties. You surely must make this clear for everyone. And again screenshot with my pattern suggestion: this plays really better.
SPOILER
01:00:356 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Just my opinion, but these jumps don't fit here. Just look somewhat plain and not interesting compared to everything else in this map :S I'd suggest you to map something more creative here, like:
SPOILER
01:19:597 - In my opinion you need a note here, no reason to use doubles, the song calls for 5-note little stream :c
01:27:666 (9) - This slider is wrong, really. It must be 1/2 to fit vocals. Also add a note at 01:28:287 after this fix.
01:58:701 (3,4,5,1,2) - Will look neat and epic if you make this all symmetrical like that:
SPOILER
02:08:838 - Imo you need a note here to fit vocals.

Gu's Hard

— Mapping

00:14:114 - Increase this green line volume to 60% please. 40% sounds empty and silenced.
00:14:942 (5,6) - This was pretty confusing for me :s I could not expect the number of repeats in the longer slider so.. I suggest you to use just a triple here:
SPOILER
00:27:045 (3,4,5) - Very weird stacks here, it would be good to place then with a bit bigger spacing, like this:
And oh well, firstly I made this screenshot manually without grid snapping and only after that noticed that 00:28:494 (6,7,1) - has the same spacing. Hm, thinking about this, it could be fine to make that spacings the same, but it also can be confusing to read. Try also this one: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/407299
But I'm pretty sure that current placing is quite bad.
SPOILER
00:40:494 - Please increase volume to at least 45%, this slider start is almost silenced.
01:08:632 (1,2) - This encircling is pretty bad, try making it better. At least like this.
01:09:252 (3,4) - 01:14:218 (3,4) - Just imo, but this looks better.
01:20:838 - If you make this one green point SV 0.9x or 0.85x, it would fit the music better. The sound is not going slower instantly, it is decreasing over time. So making the SV decreasing over time would be a nice decision too.
01:32:218 (2) - Try to encircle it better, at least like this.
01:46:494 - You need a note here because of vocals :s
02:00:976 (4) - It was very confusing to hit, really. I could not recognize the rhythm and almost missed a slider. And that's just because you overlapped it. Try this:
SPOILER
02:21:459 (1,2) - This is the first time you use such a pattern for 1/4 spacing. You always did it like this 01:47:114 (2,3,4) - so I thought that current one is 1/2 not 1/4. You must fix it, something like this?
SPOILER
02:28:080 (1,2,3) - And finally this pattern. Every time you used 1/3 you made repeating sliders. Like here 00:00:770 (1,2) - and somewhere in the middle of the map (lazy to find it), so consider remapping this a bit:
SPOILER

Normal

— Mapping

00:50:218 (3) - You must rework rhythm after this note. This one fits much better with vocals and everything:
SPOILER
00:55:390 (1) - Here too. Try this.
SPOILER
01:18:563 (1) - Rhythm again. Don't skip these, try the rhythm suggestions and consider what is best. (Or is that obvious?)
SPOILER

Easy

— Overall
AR-1 :v
I wish I could see the next two objects while playing, not only one. This would help beginners.

— Mapping

01:52:494 (2,2) - Avoid this overlap please.
02:20:632 (4) - Try to rework this rhythm a bit:
SPOILER

Dino99

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Dino99 2012-08-19T10:39:44+00:00

@grumd:

Because of bubbled
I'll fix your mod when a BAT come~
Anyway, Thanks your mod~

grumd

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grumd 2012-08-19T10:49:41+00:00

Please read Breeze's userpage.

If the mod post after I bubbled your map is useful or important, don't hesitate to fix it. It's not a good reason to reject mod just because map is bubbled, and after you done changes, feel free to ask me for a recheck. I could learn what I've missed or something others on improving map

You can pop this bubble and easily ask Breeze to recheck. This is better way o/

Dino99

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Dino99 2012-08-19T11:53:09+00:00

grumd wrote:
I've found some readability and note placement issues in Insane so let's mod it.

Insane

— Mapping
00:04:494 (4) - If you listen to vocals at this slider, you will hear that they are going louder at the slider end. But when you are playing, you press the button at slider start and almost do nothing at slider end. You must emphasize the vocals and place the slider at 00:04:701. You placed another slider very well at 00:03:873 (1) - it fits the vocals perfectly, but this one misses much of good possibilities. Try something like this: (hope this screenshot is useful at least a bit) I think it's fine >.< Sorry~
SPOILER
00:50:425 (1) - After this note, you place your triple on the different from first kiai place. The same happens on the first measure of the second kiai, but that one fits anyway. Here, I suggest you to move the triple because it matches vocals very good in first kiai. Remove note from here 00:51:149 - and add it here 00:50:735. Possible pattern for this: stack the triple under 00:50:632 (2) - , stack 00:51:045 (5) - under the sliderend of 00:50:011 (6) -
Hmm... I really think the beat is fine now... Sorry >_<"
SPOILER
00:53:735 (1,2) - This part is a lack of readability. You firstly use white-to-white tick slider, and suddenly start the stream at the offbeat blue tick. You must change few things here in my opinion. Hmm... okay~ Add a note at 00:54:356 -
1. 00:53:942 this place need a note due to vocals. I can hear "tee~" on this red tick.
2.1. I suggest you to watch Charles' video about changins "polarity" − changing from white to blue tick rhythm. You must start a slider at the white tick and end it at 00:54:356 to make it more readable. Here is the video: p/886070
2.2. This is alternative. As I could hear, there is also a drum sound (pretty quiet) at 00:54:356, so you surely could add a note there. But then you will mis that awesome blue tick rhythm, so I suggest 2.1.
To sum up, this part can be played if you know that here starts offbeat blue tick stream, but most of players don't know this at their first play and sometimes can't get the rhythm at even 3-4 reties. You surely must make this clear for everyone. And again screenshot with my pattern suggestion: this plays really better.
SPOILER

01:00:356 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Just my opinion, but these jumps don't fit here. Just look somewhat plain and not interesting compared to everything else in this map :S I'd suggest you to map something more creative here, like: Changed to more creative~ :>
SPOILER
01:19:597 - In my opinion you need a note here, no reason to use doubles, the song calls for 5-note little stream :c I think Doubles is fine~ =P
01:27:666 (9) - This slider is wrong, really. It must be 1/2 to fit vocals. Also add a note at 01:28:287 after this fix.
Hmm.. But I think it fits the music.. Sorry >.<
01:58:701 (3,4,5,1,2) - Will look neat and epic if you make this all symmetrical like that: fixed~
SPOILER
02:08:838 - Imo you need a note here to fit vocals. Hmm... no~
Normal

— Mapping
00:50:218 (3) - You must rework rhythm after this note. This one fits much better with vocals and everything: Hmm.. I follow the music, and the beat is fine now IMO.
SPOILER
00:55:390 (1) - Here too. Try this. ^
SPOILER
01:18:563 (1) - Rhythm again. Don't skip these, try the rhythm suggestions and consider what is best. I think it's fine now!!~~(Or is that obvious?)
SPOILER

Thanks~
Wait Gu & L_P to fix!!~~

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No_Gu

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No_Gu 2012-08-19T12:36:52+00:00

00:40:494 change this line to N:C1 30%.
As for the others,I don't agree.

Mismagius

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Mismagius 2012-08-19T14:38:18+00:00

If you think something "is fine, so I won't change it >.<" please EXPLAIN why.

Cyclohexane

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Cyclohexane 2012-08-19T20:28:00+00:00

(If it's hard to explain why you think something is fine, ask someone speaking english to help you, or PM the modder in-game)

Dino99

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Dino99 2012-08-19T22:00:21+00:00

Blue Dragon wrote:
If you think something "is fine, so I won't change it >.<" please EXPLAIN why.

Actually, most of the mod is about beat.. I said "I think It's fine now" is mean the beat is fine now. So I don't want to change it ._.

Edit: helped L_P to fix the mod~

grumd wrote:
Easy

— Overall
AR-1 :v
I wish I could see the next two objects while playing, not only one. This would help beginners. Sorry But I think AR2 is too slow =(

— Mapping
01:52:494 (2,2) - Avoid this overlap please. fixed~
02:20:632 (4) - Try to rework this rhythm a bit: The beat is good now IMO. Sorry~
SPOILER

L_P

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L_P 2012-08-20T11:19:06+00:00

12BARRY21 wrote:
Blue Dragon wrote:
If you think something "is fine, so I won't change it >.<" please EXPLAIN why.
Actually, most of the mod is about beat.. I said "I think It's fine now" is mean the beat is fine now. So I don't want to change it ._.

Edit: helped L_P to fix the mod~

grumd wrote:
Easy

— Overall
AR-1 :v
I wish I could see the next two objects while playing, not only one. This would help beginners. Sorry But I think AR2 is too slow =(

— Mapping
01:52:494 (2,2) - Avoid this overlap please. fixed~
02:20:632 (4) - Try to rework this rhythm a bit: The beat is good now IMO. Sorry~
SPOILER

yeah, nice fix,
what i think about AR for beginner is like this: beginners just have to focus the next note to hit instead of planning out how your mouse are going to move...
just exactly the same as driving for beginners: focus on the nearest car at first

overlap > thx

rhythm : same as barry, i think it is good and easy enough for now

thx for the mod :3

Breeze

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Breeze 2012-08-20T12:24:32+00:00

Rebubbled

Nessuka

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Nessuka 2012-08-21T21:28:20+00:00

This is not TV Size. just saying.

Dino99

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Dino99 2012-08-22T10:09:28+00:00

Twilight Sparkle wrote:
This is not TV Size. just saying.

See This & This. It's TV Size~ :3

Jenny

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Jenny 2012-08-23T23:37:46+00:00

Random Bubble-Insane-Check!

Insane:

Drain 8 is a bit high, isn't it? Escpeccially for such a not-so-fast song.

00:01:597 (3) - I think this note could use more volume since it's like the finishing note of the first soundpattern and the musical basis on which it is mapped has more power aswell
00:02:735 (2,3) - not properly stacked on 1's end
00:03:873 (1) - sliders starting on red ticks are a thing you know? rethink this, it felt somewhat awkward to play
00:06:563 (1) - it feels better if you make this a 1/2-slider, in the previous combo there was feedback in the music for 3/4-slider + circle, here it isn't
00:10:597 (2,4) - I'm sceptic about these, but it seems to be okay
00:15:252 (7) - it'd look better if the reverse-arrow was pointing back in the stream and not just randomly to the side
00:22:907 (2,3) - the slider starts on a red tick and feels awkward, I'd suggest swapping those two objects so you got circle-slider, fits better imo
00:29:528 (2,3) - again, the sliders on the red ticks feel awkward to play :/
00:32:838 (4) - *cough* red tick *cough*
00:33:873 (1,2,3,4) - it'd be better if those built a straight line
00:38:632 (4,1) - that jump is HUGE for such a slow part of the song
00:42:770 (3) - it'd really feel better if you replaced that slider with two circles since it feels like two hits more than a hold/drag-note, also it starts on a red tick and thus feels awkward to hit
00:47:942 - missing a note here?
00:52:907 (1) - a 1/2 slider feels better and suits the vocals, the feedback in the music changed from the last combo so the same soundpattern won't work out
"Nazi" but it feels better
00:55:183 (2) - NAZI: 1 grid left
00:55:287 (3) - NAZI: 1 grid down
01:00:356 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this feels too move-stop-move-stop-ish, you should adjust the jumps to the hitsounds, not just build stacks, right now that's awkward to play (also, a new combo per stack [after rearrangement] wouldn't hurt) (also, hard to read because of AR8, so the NCs would really do good)
01:01:597 (1) - shorten by one tick and add a note then, suits better imo
01:30:356 (2,3) - redtick sliders are still meeh :/
01:31:597 (2) - ^ (the two before were not as bad as this one)
01:34:287 - missing note?
01:39:252 (2) - 1/2 slider fits better, same reason as similar ones before
02:18:976 (2) - ^
02:28:080 (7) - splitting this into 2 1-time-reverse-sliders and a single circle seems to compliment the song better, at least to me

Map looks neat, though those things I pointed out where stuff that poked my eye and I'd like to see that improved - I am used much worse from bubbled maps so you could say, I support this map even though I'd like you to better those points out; a rebubble shouldn't be the problem if MAT agrees with the stuff, feel free to ask someone about that before applying.

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I'd like a response

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Dino99

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Dino99 2012-08-25T03:32:19+00:00

Jenny wrote:
Random Bubble-Insane-Check!

Insane:

Drain 8 is a bit high, isn't it? Escpeccially for such a not-so-fast song. Sorry but I think drain 8 is more challengel

00:01:597 (3) - I think this note could use more volume since it's like the finishing note of the first soundpattern and the musical basis on which it is mapped has more power aswell Hmm... I think the volume is enough~
00:02:735 (2,3) - not properly stacked on 1's end fixed
00:03:873 (1) - sliders starting on red ticks are a thing you know? rethink this, it felt somewhat awkward to play
Why start on red ticks is bad.... When I play the map... It's fine~
00:06:563 (1) - it feels better if you make this a 1/2-slider, in the previous combo there was feedback in the music for 3/4-slider + circle, here it isn't
I think the beat is fine.
00:10:597 (2,4) - I'm sceptic about these, but it seems to be okay
00:15:252 (7) - it'd look better if the reverse-arrow was pointing back in the stream and not just randomly to the side
I didn't randomly to the side.. I follow the stream~
00:22:907 (2,3) - the slider starts on a red tick and feels awkward, I'd suggest swapping those two objects so you got circle-slider, fits better imo Sorry no :<
00:29:528 (2,3) - again, the sliders on the red ticks feel awkward to play :/ Hmm... sorry
00:32:838 (4) - *cough* red tick *cough* I really think start on red ticks is fine.. sorry.
00:33:873 (1,2,3,4) - it'd be better if those built a straight line Here is a straight...
00:38:632 (4,1) - that jump is HUGE for such a slow part of the song Maybe the jump is huge.. But I really think it's okay.
00:42:770 (3) - it'd really feel better if you replaced that slider with two circles since it feels like two hits more than a hold/drag-note, also it starts on a red tick and thus feels awkward to hit No.
00:47:942 - missing a note here? No~ I don't want to add a circle here >_>
00:52:907 (1) - a 1/2 slider feels better and suits the vocals, the feedback in the music changed from the last combo so the same soundpattern won't work out
I think now is suit the music too~ sorry.. I prefer now~
"Nazi" but it feels better
00:55:183 (2) - NAZI: 1 grid left
00:55:287 (3) - NAZI: 1 grid down But I think it's better now Orz.. sorry.
01:00:356 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this feels too move-stop-move-stop-ish, you should adjust the jumps to the hitsounds, not just build stacks, right now that's awkward to play (also, a new combo per stack [after rearrangement] wouldn't hurt) (also, hard to read because of AR8, so the NCs would really do good)
Hmm.. add NC at 01:00:976 (1) -
01:01:597 (1) - shorten by one tick and add a note then, suits better imo I prefer use 1/8 slider~ sorry.
01:30:356 (2,3) - redtick sliders are still meeh :/ .....Sorry
01:31:597 (2) - ^ (the two before were not as bad as this one) o.o
01:34:287 - missing note? No.
01:39:252 (2) - 1/2 slider fits better, same reason as similar ones before I really really think the beat is fine... Sorry. OTL
02:18:976 (2) - ^ ^
02:28:080 (7) - splitting this into 2 1-time-reverse-sliders and a single circle seems to compliment the song better, at least to me
I think here is fine.. The 1.5x of 02:28:080 (7) - Could emphasize the music. Maybe a bit boring, but I like this do~
Map looks neat, though those things I pointed out where stuff that poked my eye and I'd like to see that improved - I am used much worse from bubbled maps so you could say, I support this map even though I'd like you to better those points out; a rebubble shouldn't be the problem if MAT agrees with the stuff, feel free to ask someone about that before applying.

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I'd like a response

Thanks mod!!~
Sorry for my insist~ =(

Breeze

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Breeze 2012-08-25T07:32:12+00:00

Oh well

SapphireGhost

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SapphireGhost 2012-08-27T01:12:39+00:00

Finally, a TV Size that isn't too short.

[Insane]
00:46:701 (5,1) - Putting notes under kicksliders is tough to read on Hidden, maybe do something like this? (Then fix the symmetry afterwards)
01:33:045 (6,1) - Same here.

[L_Ps Easy]
- Why not use "L_P's Easy"?

Seems I never find much in maps nowadays. Anyway, poke me after fixes.

Dino99

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Dino99 2012-08-27T03:05:04+00:00

SapphireGhost wrote:
Finally, a TV Size that isn't too short.

[Insane]
00:46:701 (5,1) - Putting notes under kicksliders is tough to read on Hidden, maybe do something like this? (Then fix the symmetry afterwards)
01:33:045 (6,1) - Same here.

[L_Ps Easy]
- Why not use "L_P's Easy"? I think it's fine~ He like use this~ xP

Seems I never find much in maps nowadays. Anyway, poke me after fixes.

Done!!~

SapphireGhost

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SapphireGhost 2012-08-27T03:21:22+00:00

Alright. One day I will have tea with L_P and he will explain why he doesn't like apostrophes to me in great detail.