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Wham! - Last Christmas

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Symbolic
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Symbolic
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on maandag 27 april 2009 at 20:54:44

Artist: Wham!
Title: Last Christmas
BPM: 106,83
Filesize: 4559kb
Play Time: 02:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,45 stars, 107 notes)
  2. Hard (4,39 stars, 299 notes)
  3. Normal (3,2 stars, 198 notes)
Download: Wham! - Last Christmas
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New beatmap of mine, felt like mapping a gaysong for christmas xD
Enjoy! :]

Monday 2 March 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Followed some of Saturos-fangirl's comments.

Thursday 5 March 2009 - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed mrtn's comments.

Monday 9 March 2009 - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed some of al2e10's comments.

Saturday 28 March 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Used foulcoon's timing.
Sunday 19 April 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Followed Skyripper's comments + added Skyripper's offset.
Sunday 5 April 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Followed CheeseWarlock's comments.
Sunday 5 April 2009 - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed Seibei4211's comments.

Thursday 9 April 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Used awp's timing.
Thursday 9 April 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Inserted the trimmed mp3 with the new timing :).

Sunday 19 April 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Now really inserted the trimmed mp3 with the new timing :).

Tuesday 21 April 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Added foulcoon's timing.

Sunday 26 April 2009 - Edit: [Normal] Followed Agent Spin Here's comments.

Monday 27 April 2009 - Edit: [Easy/Normal/Hard] Followed RemmyX25's comments.
Last edited by Symbolic , edited 18 times in total.
m980
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m980
Revived since I can..

Also Symbolic wanted it revived.
Yuukari-Banteki
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Yuukari-Banteki
[Easyl]
spacing is EXTREMELY claustrophobic, please widen. its quite unreadable as is
01:01:80 (5) - dont bother with this break, just delete it
01:43:22 (5) - this sounds weird
01:49:68 (2) - start this 1/4 later


[Normal]
spacing is still too close for my tastes
01:02:08 (1) - this sounds weird being this short
01:03:06 (3,4) - ^
01:43:22 (7) - ^
01:49:68 (2) - this should start 1/4 later


[Hard]
00:37:93 (3,4) - line these up vertically with 2
00:54:35 (2) - this sounds weird
01:02:08 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^

overall you did a good job imo. hard is a bit slow, but so is the song :P
mrtn
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mrtn
I agree with the spacing on Easy.
On normal I think it's ok though.
Symbolic
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Symbolic
[Easy]

Re-spaced.
01:01:80 (5) - Deleted the break.
01:43:22 (5) - Disagree sorry :(.
01:49:68 (2) - ^

[Normal]

Spacing is ok imo.
01:02:08 (1) - Disagree sorry :(.
01:03:06 (3,4) - ^
01:43:22 (7) - ^
01:49:68 (2) - ^

[Hard]

00:37:93 (3,4) - Done.
00:54:35 (2) - Disagree sorry :(.
01:02:08 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^

Thanks for modding :]
mrtn
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mrtn
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Symbolic
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Symbolic
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
AgentSieg
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AgentSieg
First of all:
Organize the timing.
The offset is right. The only problem you have is the BPM. Change that.
BPM = 107
Also, BPM are almost always entire numbers (107 112 168 NOT 123,876 198,327 230,934)
Redo the timing and then I'll take a look at it again.

By the way, you don't need to change between Soft and Normal it every 20 seconds. Wouldn't it be easier to use whistle effects for it? I'll leave that to your own criteria.
Symbolic
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Symbolic
The timing is fine.

Whistle's aren't the same as soft sounds, not even close to it. I have the timing sections to make it sound nice. :)
al2e10
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al2e10
I have some opinon went to give you~~
I think the song is to long!! You can go to Helping betmap to find some one to help you cut the song shorter~

[Hard]
*00:54:359 (2) move to 54:500
#02:45:996 (7) can change to finish

[Normal]
#Timing settion~
Slider Tick Rate can change to 1
#02:01:341 Can change to finish~

[Ease]
It is great!!

[ALL]
It is good but you can find someone to help you cut the song~
A bit wrong of the map~

(* You MUST change)

(#You CAN change)
Symbolic
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Symbolic
[Hard]
00:54:359 (2) - Didn't move it because it sounds wrong then.
02:45:996 (7) - Done.

[Normal]
Didn't change Slider Tick Rate.
02:01:341 (5) - Done.

Thanks for modding.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
Hmmmmm its 3 AM so take it or leave it.

BPM: 106.85
Offset: 27,825
Symbolic
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Symbolic
Took it :)

Thanks for modding
CheeseWarlock
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CheeseWarlock
In Easy and to a lesser extent Normal, it feels like the notes are placed such that the slider ends and repeats are on the stronger notes, while the slider starts are quieter notes. It sounds fine in the editor but doesn't play very well. It's something to consider. As for actual mistakes...

[Easy]
The close spacing in this map gets problematic at times. Maybe map it a bit simpler, following the rhythm of the song more and the vocals less?

[Normal]
01:02:07 (1,2,3,4) - Visually, this is a mess.

[Hard]
02:51:29 (1,2) - The rest of this difficulty is pretty tame by the end, making this jump a bit out of place. I like the jump, but not the lead-in to it.
Symbolic
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Symbolic
[Easy]

I respaced Easy.


[Normal]

01:02:07 (1,2,3,4) - Changed this.


[Hard]

Added more jumps through the whole map so that 02:51:29 (1,2) - would fit in.



Thanks for modding :)
m980
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Christmas Present
Seibei4211
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Seibei4211
I will throw my timing into the mix.

BPM: 106.35
Offset: 27,815

Normal
01:15:27 (4) - Make this repeat once more?

Also, is it just me since I'm on Test, but is it really hard to 300 the very first slider if you hit it perfectly? I can only 300 it if I hit it slightly off sync.

I say get rid of the countdown, too. It's ruining the mood, man! And please...never use such close spacing for an Easy/Normal again. And I guess that's it aside from the changes we made in IRC.
Symbolic
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Symbolic
I don't really like that timing, I think it's better as it is now.

[Normal]

01:15:27 (4) - Done.


I think it's you because you are on test. Seems fine to me actually.
Okay, removed countdown.

Thanks for modding :)
awp
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Timing request: I've got a BPM of 106.827 and an offset of 27830. I don't think it's perfect, but imo it's damn well close enough. Here's where the bad news comes in. The song is nearly 7 minutes long, and you're only using the first 3 minutes. It's gotta be cut down. And when it gets cut down, you'll likely need to find a new offset.

But this map can't be ranked with the excessive amount of unused mp3. If you need help trimming the mp3 and calculating the new offset, just say the word.
Symbolic
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Symbolic
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Symbolic
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Symbolic
Added the trimmed mp3 with new timing :).
Skyripper
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Skyripper
The mp3 isn't trimmed? Not only is it still 7 minutes, it's a mind boggling 15 Mb. Did you do a full submission?

Offset for trimmed mp3: 27,889

[Easy]
Fine

[Normal]
01:56:92 - get rid of this break
02:01:41 (5) - I'd prefer you unstack this since earlier in the song you only stack the blue tick faster notes

[Hard]
00:53:45 (5,6) - take the whistles off these
01:00:74 (5) - kill this whistle too (the volume is just too extreme in my opinion, sounds better without)
01:47:37 (7) - new combo
01:57:06 - kill this break
Symbolic
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Symbolic
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Skyripper
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offset: 27,873

I had a change of heart on the offset. It's tricky on this song

We need another BAT to check this when you get that offset updated. I want to make sure it's right :D.

If it is, I'll gladly bubble
Symbolic
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Symbolic
Added new timing.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
With new cut mp3...
as accurate as it gets in one section methinks

BPM: 106.83
Offset:27,880

got me 2 100s, so meh
Symbolic
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Symbolic
Added the timing, thanks for checking timing :)
Mashley
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Mashley
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Symbolic
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Symbolic
Followed your comments, thanks for modding :)
mtmcl
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I like! No complaints from me, sir. bubb'd+star'd
RemmyX25
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~Pop~

Easy:
01:27:696: is the break here really necessary? The break is so short that it really doesn't affect HP Drain, but im sure you could map something here instead.

Normal:
Just a suggestion, turn the slider tick value up to 1.

Hard:
You might be able to get away with the .5 slider tick value, but I still think it should be 1. Feel free to argue against me about this though.

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Symbolic
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Deleted the break, changed the slider tickrates. Thanks for modding. :)
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Echo
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OK, I'm going for the rank.
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