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@ osu! Standard mode players: Why don't you play Taiko?

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Why don't you play Taiko?

Lack of beginner maps that are meant for Taiko mode.
67
14.99%
The game mode doesn't look fun to me.
112
25.06%
I tried playing it, but was having difficulties learning so I gave up / quit.
202
45.19%
Other (Please Specify / Post in the thread your reason)
66
14.77%
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lepidopodus
3,548 posts
Joined November 2009
lepidopodus
I see, there are lots of people saying 'Taiko is hard'. At least we can do something about this

Players said 'Taiko isn't fun', hmm, I guess this is a problem of player's preference...
Mithos
636 posts
Joined February 2011
Mithos
As soon as I find a song to map I'm making a Kantan (easy) taiko difficulty along with an Oni taiko difficulty. I wanna see a pie chart with the amount of Kantan/Fuutuu maps to the amount of Muzhachii (Defs didn't spell that right) and oni maps.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
I think Kantan would be unnecessary. People would find it boring and it'd discourage them from playing taiko.
You need to make low-BPM maps that are stacked with lots of notes, so that it's not too hard to follow for a beginner but at the same time doesn't have "dead spots" or basically blank parts where you don't do any thinking at all because that would bore players trying to learn.
I found that doing low-BPM oni difficulties with HalfTime and various Muzukashii maps either normally or with HalfTime if they're high-BPM is the best way to learn this game type quickly and in a fun way.

I don't think I'm any more skilled than anybody else so as long as it's low-BPM muzukashii it's good enough for a beginner to start learning on; I guess high BPM futsuu would be good too. But stuff below that would just be boring for beginners and would discourage them from learning.
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
karterfreak
@Aqo:

I don't really agree with that for the mere fact that some player's starting level is much lower than others. Take for example guitar hero. I know some friends who are given a challenge by easy songs. Who am I to say that because when I started I was able to play hard / expert that nobody needs normal / easy difficulties?

The idea of a kantan difficulty would more be for players who are entirely new to Taiko and are still having a hard time differentiating between don and kat. There's nothing 'boring' about it for players who are actually new to it.
Elfuun_old
276 posts
Joined May 2012
Elfuun_old
I try to, but it is really hard, much harder than the original Taiko games.

Plus most of the maps I have sucks badly.
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
I had no fun playing it.
creativ_old
64 posts
Joined March 2010
creativ_old
I tried but it was kinda hard and confusing to be switching from blue to red and so on, i sometimes play on relax just for the fun :3
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
@ karterfreak:

I only recently started taiko and I agree that the 100% first thing a beginner needs to focus on is differentiating don and kat. HOWEVER, when I started, a lot of easy maps I wanted to use for practice had simply different-timing patterns for only dons or only kats, or just a don-kat-don-kat-etc alternation with no variations in it, and I felt like I'm not learning anything like that. The maps should be slow enough to give beginners a chance to follow their reading, but not too SIMPLE because then it won't teach anything and it'll be boring to play.

i.e.: for beginner: Fast slider speed + high bpm + simple patterns = very bad, won't teach you much at all.
Slow slider speed + low bpm + somewhat complex patterns = very good, it's fun to play for beginner, playable, and teaches him the game.
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
Taiko sucks, don't play it.
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
Believe it or not, there is a psychological aspect dividing people playing osu! but not enjoying Taiko.
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,812 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito

lepidopodus wrote:

I see, there are lots of people saying 'Taiko is hard'. At least we can do something about this
p/1508310
Help me with this idea if you like it lepidopodus.
After my exams are over I will start this project.
NamidaRain
4 posts
Joined May 2012
NamidaRain
the stream thing makes me mad, I can play 32th notes fine but when I see the stream I have a tendency to mash/spam as fast i can = =.. weird bad habbit that I cant get rid of. also the red blue thing at high speeds kinda makes me dizzy
Drafura
osu! Alumni
2,621 posts
Joined April 2010
Drafura
4) After one year standard i was borred with it, I had the choice to go Taiko or CtB, and learning a mod while playing the most insane maps of osu! was most attractive in my eyes. But I still have in mind to learn Taiko one day.

Edit : Oh and @Shiirn I think the lack of hard maps for CtB makes me don't go for this mode before. I mean I've started CtB with AR9, and before Val, there wasn't really a lot of AR9 ranked maps for CtB. For me (since the time I started CtB) playing CtB in a map wich don't require rythm at all is just uninterresting and borring, and if I didn't find those kind of maps when I've started it i'll propably get borred of the mode and just look for taiko instead.
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Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa
My eyes hurt when i play taiko. And i need myperfect 20/20 vision for a certain school
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg
My eyes hurts. :(
Senhime
5 posts
Joined October 2011
Senhime
Having difficulties learning it. Maybe it's because I haven't played the right maps yet, I dno. I cba to bother with Taiko anyway.
Yakuyan
129 posts
Joined November 2011
Yakuyan
Dont have good motion vision so cant focus unless I blink every beat. Including that I see red but i press blue. But I play Taiko from time to time.
rickyboi
rickyboi
I am color blind.

Please don't laugh.
Anzo
762 posts
Joined December 2010
Anzo

rickyboi wrote:

I am color blind.

Please don't laugh.
^that's not a laughing matter anyways, but I don't know if some taiko players are color blind.

Can't play taiko because of my hands, it gets too tired so easily.
And I'm not good at things that are moving fast in motion.
Posse
33 posts
Joined September 2010
Posse
I don't play it just because I don't have the drums (when I played it in Japan it was fucking awesome), playing it with the keyboard is like playing guitar hero with a joystick, it definitely doesn't appeal to me.
Xaffy
88 posts
Joined October 2010
Xaffy
Those sideways moving circles make me sick/dizzy/hurts my eyes. I can't even spec someone playing taiko.
Yuugo
129 posts
Joined July 2011
Yuugo
I usually end up drumming my own rhythm instead of following the real notes.. and my eyesight gets really weird when I'm done with a taiko map (same happens when playing guitar hero)
KinomiCandy
798 posts
Joined June 2010
KinomiCandy
Because Taiko sucks.
Hydra
34 posts
Joined July 2011
Hydra
Becouse Taiko sucks.
laport
1,239 posts
Joined June 2010
laport
I consider standard the only game that matters to me.
taiko/ctb are jokes to me, both can be fun for 1 minute with relax mod.
I delete taiko maps because they get in the way.
But at least in taiko hidden flashlight records are legit and not cheated like 99.9% of them all are in osu.
YayaBunWa
34 posts
Joined June 2010
YayaBunWa
Hurts my eyes too much to keep up. The amount of reflex/pattern training I'd have to do to get even slightly good is ridiculous.

Tl;dr More interest in Standard.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
For all the people who say taiko makes their eyes dizzy: make sure your frame limiter is set to UNLIMITED, with 60/vsync it's literally unwatchable and with 120 limit only the slower maps will be watchable. Also, use a small window for taiko. On my laptop's LCD, I play standard fullscreen but taiko on 640x480 window, because taiko is easier on the eyes with smaller screen size. Try it.
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

Aqo wrote:

For all the people who say taiko makes their eyes dizzy: make sure your frame limiter is set to UNLIMITED, with 60/vsync it's literally unwatchable and with 120 limit only the slower maps will be watchable. Also, use a small window for taiko. On my laptop's LCD, I play standard fullscreen but taiko on 640x480 window, because taiko is easier on the eyes with smaller screen size. Try it.
You're funny. I can't play without vsync, 60fps limiter. Taiko is also not easier on the eyes with a smaller screen size. I don't know where you get your info from.
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow

laport wrote:

But at least in taiko hidden flashlight records are legit and not cheated like 99.9% of them all are in osu.
I lol'd so hard.
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

BrokenArrow wrote:

laport wrote:

But at least in taiko hidden flashlight records are legit and not cheated like 99.9% of them all are in osu.
I lol'd so hard.
Not sure if srs
Sander-Don
1,282 posts
Joined March 2010
Sander-Don

laport wrote:

But at least in taiko hidden flashlight records are legit and not cheated like 99.9% of them all are in osu.
LOL
Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire

Sander-Don wrote:

laport wrote:

But at least in taiko hidden flashlight records are legit and not cheated like 99.9% of them all are in osu.
LOL
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

those wrote:

Aqo wrote:

For all the people who say taiko makes their eyes dizzy: make sure your frame limiter is set to UNLIMITED, with 60/vsync it's literally unwatchable and with 120 limit only the slower maps will be watchable. Also, use a small window for taiko. On my laptop's LCD, I play standard fullscreen but taiko on 640x480 window, because taiko is easier on the eyes with smaller screen size. Try it.
You're funny. I can't play without vsync, 60fps limiter. Taiko is also not easier on the eyes with a smaller screen size. I don't know where you get your info from.
I guess you must see things very differently? On all 3 of the monitors I use taiko is much easier to follow with a smaller screen size, a bigger one makes it hard on the eyes with high slider speeds
Minty Gum
298 posts
Joined June 2011
Minty Gum
I just prefer standard. Taiko is fine occasionally, like if I'm sitting on an airplane and can't plug in my tablet. I like standard because it combines drawing and music into 1 product. It's artistic to me.
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
other: never tried it.
Garven
osu! Alumni
5,857 posts
Joined January 2010
Garven
I play at a Muzu level in TnT.

I find most Oni difficulties to be ridiculously overmapped to be unappealing to even listen to against the music (same extends to a lot of osu! standard Insane maps, but I digress...)
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

Aqo wrote:

I guess you must see things very differently? On all 3 of the monitors I use taiko is much easier to follow with a smaller screen size, a bigger one makes it hard on the eyes with high slider speeds
Once again, I don't know where you get your info from.
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow

those wrote:

Aqo wrote:

I guess you must see things very differently? On all 3 of the monitors I use taiko is much easier to follow with a smaller screen size, a bigger one makes it hard on the eyes with high slider speeds
Once again, I don't know where you get your info from.
I guess from his own experience, isn't that obvious?
Da7shadow
57 posts
Joined July 2011
Da7shadow
:x
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nikoniko777
15 posts
Joined April 2012
nikoniko777
I get so confused about when to hit red, when to hit blue and when to hit both keys when there's a big drum! Though when I get around to practising Taiko mode more perhaps I will (slowly) get better!
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