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Kawada Mami - Initative (Short Ver.)

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Konei
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Samstag, 23. Juni 2012 at 15:06:13

Artist: Kawada Mami
Title: INITIATIVE (Short Ver.)
Source: Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate
Tags: visual novel pc game eroge hentai Mitsuneko Hinsvar Nich95 nekonomitsu sprite
BPM: 134
Filesize: 21264kb
Play Time: 01:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,29 stars, 90 notes)
  2. Hinsvar's LOVE (5 stars, 396 notes)
  3. Mitsuneko's Hard (4,32 stars, 173 notes)
  4. Nich's Insane (4,97 stars, 366 notes)
  5. Normal (2,91 stars, 126 notes)
Download: Kawada Mami - INITIATIVE (Short Ver.)
Download: Kawada Mami - INITIATIVE (Short Ver.) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Opening of the Eroge: "Koi to senkyou to chocolate" (Love, Election and Chocolate)

Ready for mods~


Easy: 100% Remaped

Normal: 100% ^

Hard: 100% (By Mitsuneko)

Insane: 100% (by Nich95)

Insane2: 100% (By Hinsvar)


Added new BG's because I felt boring~
Last edited by Konei , edited 63 times in total.
Evil_Twilight
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Evil_Twilight
BPM : 134
offset : 462
Konei
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Konei
@Evil_Twilight


Arigatou!
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
(Easy) Oh, your beat misses! I fixed it and resize something.
See attach.

Download: Kawada Mami - Initative - short Ver. (Konei) [Easy (edited)].osu
Konei
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Konei

Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

(Easy) Oh, your beat misses! I fixed it and resize something.
See attach.


Thank you very much :D

Could you tell me what I did wrong for me making it better next time? :D
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
Yes. Some basics:

At first you must determine BPM and Offset. You can do it manually, if you have good hearing, otherwise ask someone. When this parameters will be right, you can start mapping.

For mapping you should use your hearing, but right BPM and Offset will make mapping easier. With right parameters you should just follow white "ticks" on top bar and snap notes on it. However music specifics can don't hit on it, here you should use you hearing. Also turning on sound effects may help you follow the rythm.
BeatofIke
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BeatofIke
Pretty much this. Also reading the FAQs helps as well.
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
Yeah, you can read wiki. Start from here [link].
Konei
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Konei

Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

Yes. Some basics:

At first you must determine BPM and Offset. You can do it manually, if you have good hearing, otherwise ask someone. When this parameters will be right, you can start mapping.

For mapping you should use your hearing, but right BPM and Offset will make mapping easier. With right parameters you should just follow white "ticks" on top bar and snap notes on it. However music specifics can don't hit on it, here you should use you hearing. Also turning on sound effects may help you follow the rythm.

Okay. So are every notes, that don't land on a white tick wrong?
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
Not every. Music is written for humans and may shifts sometimes. But normal music keeps it rythm and almost all white ticks will be right. Here you should use your hearing. I recomment set tickrate to 1/2 at first time and listen, then with expirience you may set it on 1/4.
_____
(Thanks at Hanabashi!)
Oh, this is mistake in my nickname =) And "thanks to"
Konei
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Konei

Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

Not every. Music is written for humans and may shifts sometimes. But normal music keeps it rythm and almost all white ticks will be right. Here you should use your hearing. I recomment set tickrate to 1/2 at first time and listen, then with expirience you may set it on 1/4.
_____
(Thanks at Hanabashi!)
Oh, this is mistake in my nickname =) And "thanks to"


I'm sorry for mistake >.<

Could you check my other diffs too, when I finished them?
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
I will try,i'm not ideal mapper.
Konei
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Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

I will try,i'm not ideal mapper.

I would thank you if you check my normal :D
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
Here.
Also sliders should ends on white ticks too.
And you can set up video just dragging it in editor window.

Download: Kawada Mami - Initative - short Ver. (Konei) [Normal (edited)].osu
Konei
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Konei

Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

Here.
Also sliders should ends on white ticks too.
And you can set up video just dragging it in editor window.

On hard may I use red ore blue ticks?
What do you mean by setting up video?


But thanks like always :D I would like to make it alone, but it seems I wont :(
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
On hard may I use red ore blue ticks?
Of course, in combinations like such as many fast buttons.

What do you mean by setting up video?
You put video file in folder, but did not attach it in game.

I would like to make it alone
Just do it! Listen music and snap notes until it sounds good.
Konei
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Konei

Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

On hard may I use red ore blue ticks?
Of course, in combinations like such as many fast buttons.

What do you mean by setting up video?
You put video file in folder, but did not attach it in game.

I would like to make it alone
Just do it! Listen music and snap notes until it sounds good.


That means insane and hard are the one I may use every tick?


So what should I do now? I think the video is ok like it is, isn't it?

I will try do it alone, if you would fix it for me :D Thank you very much for this! :D
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
So what should I do now? I think the video is ok like it is, isn't it?
Hmm, last time it isn't working for me.

Good luck!
Konei
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Konei

Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

So what should I do now? I think the video is ok like it is, isn't it?
Hmm, last time it isn't working for me.

Good luck!

I did some on hard, but it doesnt sound good, am I wrong?
DeletedUser_783518
DeletedUser_783518
Try move notes that its hit in rythm. Enable hitsounds and listen.
Konei
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Hanabishi_aka_iRecca wrote:

Try move notes that its hit in rythm. Enable hitsounds and listen.


Like this?
Flask
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Flask
Kawada Mami - Initative - short Ver.
must be
Kawada Mami - Initative (Short Ver.)
Konei
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Konei

ay6859 wrote:

Kawada Mami - Initative - short Ver.
must be
Kawada Mami - Initative (Short Ver.)

Thank you!
Mitsuneko
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Mitsuneko
Here's your diff. Hope you like it.
http://puu.sh/z26o
Konei
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Mitsuneko wrote:

Here's your diff. Hope you like it.
http://puu.sh/z26o

Yup~ Thanks :D

I wait Nich to finish Insane and then I can move to pending.
Hinsvar
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Hinsvar
The title of the song should be "INITIATIVE", according to the already ranked mapset using this song.

Also, can I make another Insane diff? :P
Konei
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Hinsvar wrote:

The title of the song should be "INITIATIVE", according to the already ranked mapset using this song.

Also, can I make another Insane diff? :P

Sure :)
Hinsvar
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Hinsvar
Eh, not really sure if this is an Insane. I might label this as either Insane+ or even Extra, but whatever.

8-5-9-8 for the diff settings. Filled with some (possibly bad) jumps and (possibly overmapped) streams. Also, many triplets and an experimental hitsound pattern.

I just hope that this diff is actually playable and no one will force me to remap this...

http://puu.sh/zw0v
Nichiyouki
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Nichiyouki
I made my diff complete.

My advice
  1. Audio Lead-In use to 2000 be better.
  2. Add "Mitsuneko nich95 Hinsvar" in tags
My diff and soft-hitwhistle
http://puu.sh/zzsW
Konei
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Allright~ Moved to pending!
My Angel Kitteh
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My Angel Kitteh
Requested mod :3

Now let's see~

[Easy]

00:00:462 - 00:01:805 will be better if you add spinner here, i guess :3
00:02:700 empty place, add circle to x:256 y:160
00:23:297 ^ to x:384 y:288
00:25:088 ^ to x:192 y:160
00:26:879 ^ to x:256 y:64
00:28:670 ^ to x:320 y:224
00:46:133 ^ to x:160 y:96
00:48:372 ^ to x:448 y:224
01:15:238 ^ to x:448 y:256
01:16:133 i think for easy map it's quite confusing part, will be better if you put this slider to 01:16:357
01:18:372 empty place, add circle to x:192 y:192
01:34:939 ^ to x:192 y:224
01:36:730 ^ to x:160 y:96
01:38:521 ^ to x:384 y:96
01:40:312 ^ to x:256 y:256
01:42:103 ^ to x:128 y:64

[Normal]

Put large circle size.
00:00:462 - 00:01:805 spinner?
00:10:088 end slider at 00:10:312
00:10:760 and then fill empty place with circle here
00:38:297 instead of reversed slider put circle
00:38:521 - 00:38:969 add slider
like this
00:57:775 instead of circle put spinner till 00:58:670
01:06:059 add circle, it's empty without it
01:17:812 add circle to the end of slider
01:19:491 ^ to x:320 y:304

[Hard]

00:04:939 feels empty, add circle to x:472 y:200
00:13:670 ^ to x:256 y:252
00:32:029 ^ to the end of reversed slider

[Insane]

00:01:357 feels empty, add circle to the end of slider
00:03:148 ^
00:04:939 ^
00:06:730 ^
00:08:297 ^ to x:256 y:192
00:11:879 ^
01:12:999 add circle
01:20:163 ^

[Insane 2]

Nothing to cavil, but small circle size is really annoying D:

Cute song and map, good luck :3
Konei
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Konei

hichman wrote:

Requested mod :3

Now let's see~

[Easy]

00:00:462 - 00:01:805 will be better if you add spinner here, i guess :3
00:02:700 empty place, add circle to x:256 y:160 Fix
00:23:297 ^ to x:384 y:288 No, because I want to keep some space :/
00:25:088 ^ to x:192 y:160
00:26:879 ^ to x:256 y:64
00:28:670 ^ to x:320 y:224
00:46:133 ^ to x:160 y:96
00:48:372 ^ to x:448 y:224
01:15:238 ^ to x:448 y:256
01:16:133 i think for easy map it's quite confusing part, will be better if you put this slider to 01:16:357
01:18:372 empty place, add circle to x:192 y:192
01:34:939 ^ to x:192 y:224
01:36:730 ^ to x:160 y:96
01:38:521 ^ to x:384 y:96
01:40:312 ^ to x:256 y:256
01:42:103 ^ to x:128 y:64

[Normal]

Put large circle size.
00:00:462 - 00:01:805 spinner?
00:10:088 end slider at 00:10:312
00:10:760 and then fill empty place with circle here
00:38:297 instead of reversed slider put circle
00:38:521 - 00:38:969 add slider
like this
00:57:775 instead of circle put spinner till 00:58:670
01:06:059 add circle, it's empty without it
01:17:812 add circle to the end of slider
01:19:491 ^ to x:320 y:304

[Hard]

00:04:939 feels empty, add circle to x:472 y:200
00:13:670 ^ to x:256 y:252
00:32:029 ^ to the end of reversed slider

[Insane]

00:01:357 feels empty, add circle to the end of slider
00:03:148 ^
00:04:939 ^
00:06:730 ^
00:08:297 ^ to x:256 y:192
00:11:879 ^
01:12:999 add circle
01:20:163 ^

[Insane 2]

Nothing to cavil, but small circle size is really annoying D:

Cute song and map, good luck :3

Thank you very much :)
Nichiyouki
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Nichiyouki

hichman wrote:


[Insane]

00:01:357 feels empty, add circle to the end of slider
00:03:148 ^
00:04:939 ^
00:06:730 ^
00:08:297 ^ to x:256 y:192
00:11:879 ^
01:12:999 add circle
01:20:163 ^

Cute song and map, good luck :3
Thanks for mod, hichman :) but I don't change it, sorry.
Hinsvar
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Hinsvar

nich95 wrote:

Thanks for mod, hichman :) but I don't change it, sorry.
It's rare to see you rejecting someone's suggestions, you know :P

Also, where's my Hard diff? D: (Nah, don't worry, I'll wait for it patiently \:D/)

Oh, and I'm feeling so stupid for not realizing it quickly, but you should change the source to "Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate". If that's not obvious enough, capitalize "s" and the first "c".

Plus, you may want to change the lead-in on all diffs to 2000. nich's choice is pretty good for me, since I think that 3s is a bit too long \:D/

k; out

\:D/
cRyo[iceeicee]
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cRyo[iceeicee]
Hi~
Modding because i love Kawada Mami (ღ˘˘ღ)♥


[General]
You got inconsistency in AudioLeadIn, plz check [Hinsvar's LOVE] diff, it must be same with others
Since you got video its better to remove letterbox during breaks
Also according to new rule t/89198
you must remove (Short Ver.) from title, this thread will help you viewtopic.php?f=56&t=24443



[Nich's Insane]
00:12:999 (1) - whistle
00:13:670 (6) - whistle tail
01:24:641 (1) - finish ?



[Hinsvar's LOVE]
00:48:372 (4,5,6,7) - better to fix this spacing, its quite unreadable now
00:59:566 (4) - NC here cause rhytm changes
01:06:282 (1) - RNC
01:06:730 (4) - NC here cause rhytm changes
01:08:521 (5) - NC here cause rhytm changes
01:17:476 (8) - NC here
01:27:551 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - combine them in 1 combo color
01:31:805 (1,2,1,2) - combine them in 1 combo color



[Mitsuneko's Hard]
00:13:670 - note
00:14:790 (1) - finish
00:21:954 (1) - finish
00:29:118 (1) - finish
00:32:253 (1) - finish tail 50% volume
00:36:059 (1,2,3,4,5) - try this http://puu.sh/Fug7
00:39:864 (3) - finish 50% volume
00:47:029 (1) - finish 50% volume
00:50:611 (1) - finish 50% volume
00:54:193 (1) - finish 50% volume
00:59:566 (3) - finish 50% volume
01:10:312 (1) - finish 50% volume
01:24:641 (4) - finish 50% volume
01:44:342 (1) - whistle
01:47:253 - note



[Normal]
00:14:118 (5) - clap tail
00:30:909 (3) - try this http://puu.sh/FujP and delete #4 note
00:34:044 (4,5) - this http://puu.sh/Fukl
00:46:133 (1) - mb just slider ? http://puu.sh/FukW
00:48:596 (2,3,4,5,6) - wow this is a bit hard for N diff mb this ?http://puu.sh/Fulx
00:50:611 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - same here http://puu.sh/Fum0
00:54:641 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - mb smth simple like this http://puu.sh/FumD ?
00:59:566 (1) - end slider at 01:00:238



[Easy]
00:02:253 (1,1) - try to adjust ur NC to avoid this kind of NC spam
00:15:462 - 00:29:118 add whistles every where imo sounds better o.o
00:34:491 (1) - RNC
00:53:745 (4) - finish tail
01:16:581 (1) - start spinner here 01:17:476 and do this http://puu.sh/FupB
01:29:118 - note
01:30:014 (5) - finish
01:33:596 - 01:46:133 all whistles o.o

Thats all, good luck :)
Hinsvar
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Hinsvar

cRyo[iceeicee] wrote:


[General]
You got inconsistency in AudioLeadIn, plz check [Hinsvar's LOVE] diff, it must be same with others I'm sure enough I used 2000... well, I'll fix it myself.

[Hinsvar's LOVE]
00:48:372 (4,5,6,7) - better to fix this spacing, its quite unreadable now I added NC to (5) instead. This spot is a good one to make an anti-jump, IMO, so I made it like this.
00:59:566 (4) - NC here cause rhytm changes Done.
01:06:282 (1) - RNC ^
01:06:730 (4) - NC here cause rhytm changes ^
01:08:521 (5) - NC here cause rhytm changes ^
01:17:476 (8) - NC here ^
01:27:551 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - combine them in 1 combo color ^
01:31:805 (1,2,1,2) - combine them in 1 combo color ^ (Also moved some stuff here.)
k, thanks for that ;)

I seriously thought someone will ask me to remap this.

Dammit.

http://puu.sh/Fvqg

Also, if anyone asks me about why am I naming my diff "LOVE", I took the name from the VN's title, and this is used to denote that this diff is the hardest in the mapset... well, at least I think it's the hardest.

And, uh, Konei... why do Mitsuneko, nich, and my diffs don't have a BG? I know there's a BG change here, but I didn't even see a second background. Full submit? *Yes, I already downloaded the latest version of this mapset.

Plus, I just played nich's diff and... dude, you should really make it AR8. AR7 is too low, y'know.
Konei
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Konei
Sorry for this late reply :lol:

I fixed all and I'm going to fullsubmit it, if I don't graveyard this for a while

The thing is I don't know wether I do it. :(

I will see in some days.
Kanari
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Joined June 2011
Kanari
Halloww ~
Kawada Mami ~ Yay !


[General]
- .osb not in use so remove it.
- Remove short ver. from the title.
- Change the thread name from Initative to INITATIVE like the title of the map.


[Easy]
- Approach Rate -1
00:48:820 (2) - Make it like (1)
01:46:133 (3) - Line with (1) x:344 y:312
01:47:029 (1) - Move to 01:47:924 and end at 01:51:506 and silence the spinner.


[Normal]
00:12:551 (3) - I think its better to make (1) and this the same ~
01:23:297 (1) - End this at 01:23:745
01:24:193 - Copy the slider from ^ and end at 01:24:641
01:26:208 (3) - Move to 01:26:432 and reverse.
01:26:879 (4) - Move to 01:27:775
01:30:238 - Spinner here and end at 01:32:700
01:47:476 (1) - Move to 01:47:924 and end at 01:51:506 and silence the spinner.


[Mitsuneko's Hard]
00:59:566 (3) - Extend this slider a tick forward.
01:33:708 - Insert break. owo
01:48:148 (1) - End at 01:51:506


[Nich's Insane]
01:48:036 (1) - End at 01:51:506


[Hinsvar's LOVE]
- I feel that your over using the claps. ><
- Same thing about the spinner too ~


That's it ~
Good luck ! >w<
Nichiyouki
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Joined August 2011
Nichiyouki
Fixed all...

Thank you for mod, cRyo[iceeicee] and xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx :)

http://puu.sh/Iqew

Note: Don't forget remove (Short Ver.) like what cRyo[iceeicee] and xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx said. Because it's rule for now.
Hinsvar
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Hinsvar

xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx wrote:

[Hinsvar's LOVE]
- I feel that your over using the claps. >< I'm experimenting hitsound patterns here, actually. And I think the current overall pattern is pretty good.
- Same thing about the spinner too ~ Moved to 01:51:394 instead.
Okay; thanks, I guess.

http://puu.sh/Iqps
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