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Unread post behavior in threads is inconsistent [confirmed] [resolved]

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Derekku
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1) Thread behavior was changed to automatically direct to the first unread post. However, new posts on the main forum index always point to the latest post instead (e.g. using /p/ links [incorrect] instead of /t/ links [correct]).

For example, let's say I'm in General Development and I'm looking at the Achievement Graphics thread. It has a link of t/80448 and will redirect me to the first unread post. However, if I'm on the Main Forum Listing, and the newest post in all of General Development is in the Achievement Graphics thread, then the newest post will look something like this: p/1464101

2) Egosearch still has 'last unread' icons which (incorrectly) link to things like: t/80448&view=unread#unread

The same behavior also still exists for:
search.php?search_id=newposts
search.php?search_id=active_topics
search.php?search_id=unanswered

EDIT: Just noticed something else...

3) If clicking on a thread takes you to the first unread post, then if the thread is currently read I would expect to be taken to the very last (i.e. newest) post. Instead, the current behavior (when clicking on a fully-read thread) takes you to the first post of the first page.
Derekku
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Related to #3 above:

4) Open a thread with new posts (and multiple pages); refresh; observe that you're now on the next page; refresh; you're on the next page; continue until the last page is reached; refresh; observe that you've rolled over to the first page.

This refreshing behavior really makes no sense to me >.>
peppy
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peppy
This is correct behaviour (the links from the main page). The refresh -> next page is unavoidable with the "load latest post" logic, and I agree it is annoying so will probably remove that.
Luna
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Luna
Well, it always assumes you have read the current page, so after refreshing it skips to the first unread post > next page
Once you reach the last page, there are no unread posts and thus it redirects to the first page since it's just the thread link without page specification
So the behavior makes sense - if it's ideal is another question though

/E: peppy-ninja :<
Derekku
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I understood why it happened, but yeah, I meant that it wasn't ideal. :p
Sakura
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Sakura
Maybe if refreshing would make it mark the same unread posts back to unread?
peppy
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peppy
This now works as it used to.
Sakura
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Now it always opens the first post instead of the first unread post, is there any way to put the "first unread post" button? or any way to make it go to the first unread post? since i dont remember in which page i was at of every thread.
peppy
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We'll see. I'm not sure how to do this design-wise yet.
Sakura
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I got an idea, how about clicking on the thread icon:
Kitsunemimi
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I think it'll probably work best if you reintroduce the "Jump to last unread post" button. However, I take it that peppy clearly didn't want it there because maybe it was bothersome/cluttering, so perhaps it can be reimplemented in a different way.

However, no matter how much you don't want the button there, without it, there simply won't be any sort of clearcut way to specify whether you want the latest post or the thread OP (by clicking the page 1 link itself). And even then, whenever I open a thread from a link, I've noticed that more times that not, it's directed me to the last unread post when I didn't want it to. And of course, you'd still have the refresh-page jumping to deal with. I just think it would make our lives easier to get the jump to first unread post button back, albeit probably in a nicer, more subtle way.
peppy
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peppy
I'm just wondering if making the "jump to last post" go to the last unread instead would be a bad idea right now :p.
Sakura
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peppy wrote:

I'm just wondering if making the "jump to last post" go to the last unread instead would be a bad idea right now :p.
Who knows, i for one never use that "Jump to last post" button but i dunno if others use it.
Kitsunemimi
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Kitsunemimi
I never ever use it either and wouldn't mind if it got switched. Though it may be a little confusing if you just change it without telling anyone.
Mercurial
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I miss the old way.
Derekku
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Derekku

Sakura Hana wrote:

Who knows, i for one never use that "Jump to last post" button but i dunno if others use it.
I did, quite frequently. :c
Derekku
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Just noticed refreshing behavior is still broken like I mentioned in the OP (i.e. scrolling through unread pages and then rolling over to page 1).
peppy
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You'll need to be more specific.
Derekku
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1) Click on an unread link from the list of threads on any board.
2) As expected, "&view=unread" gets appended to the thread's url.
3) However, if the thread has multiple pages, upon refreshing you will be cycled to the next unread page and then finally back to page 1.
peppy
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I guess I can think of a solution to this one. Will look into it soon.
Sakura
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Sakura
I guess this would be kind of obvious, since when you open a page, it marks all posts on that page (and whatever previous pages if they had) as read, so naturally refreshing would go to the next page.
Derekku
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The thing is, peppy was reverting back to the old behavior, and this is definitely *not* the old behavior. :p
peppy
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Pagination issues should now be resolved.
Derekku
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Yep, looks good.

Although, should unread URLs have two forward slashes in them?

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum//p/1550408
"//p/" Not sure if it was intentional to fix things or not!
peppy
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Removed the slash.
Derekku
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Derekku
All good now (:
Derekku
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1) Page n has full replies, is fully read, and there are no new pages.
2) New replies are added, thus creating page n+1 (with unread replies).
3) Use the unread button (from the thread listings) to go the first unread post.
4) Observe that you're directed to page n, which was already fully read, and thus has no unread replies.
5) Observe that page n+1 has new/unread replies, and thus you were taken to the wrong page.
6) Observe that the /p/ url of the first unread post is correct; just the page is incorrect.

Unfortunately, I cannot replicate this. It's only happened to be a handful of times, but I can recall that there were very few replies on the next page (2 or 3 at most). ?____?

EDIT: It seems like this happens when there are new replies on both page n and n+1, but you only read the ones on n and then leave the thread. Later, when checking for unread posts (which are now just on page n+1), you are redirected to the bottom of page n.
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