HOW TO STREAM?!

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lolcubes

kriers wrote:

I remember thinking that I could learn slow streams by learning fast streams, but it just doesn't work like that.
It's the other way around if you wish for a respectable accuracy.
I did absolutely the same. Also couldn't have said it better myself. :)
Heh.

I used http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43582 though. It's mapped like 130bpm and it's insanely hard to get awesome accuracy on. The streams aren't long, but if you can hold 99+ accuracy here, streaming low bpm won't be that hard anymore, atleast it wasn't for me.
Neruell
Try that with Hardrock xD Then it is really hard to get a good accuracy xD
Zelmarked
I find it fairly easy. I have to play it a couple times to get down the tempo, and then it comes natural. I just play in my head "da da da da da da da da", like a metronome, to help time my s/d. Sometimes I'll bob my head left and right to physically replicate a metronome.
thelewa
I find it easier to stream low bpm if I just increase the force that I smash the buttons with

works pretty fine taking into consideration that I can do stuff like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39194
ziin
you get better at aspects of osu the same way you get better at any instrument: play etudes. Stuff like chipstream is perfect for streaming practice, though the song itself could be a little bit better designed since the bpm jumps up way too fast.

You can also make your own etudes if you really want to get better. That's probably the best way as it lets you choose the song, the difficulty, the bpm, and all the rhythms you need, so you don't have to learn some other song.

stuff like shoreline is probably a bad idea. rhythms are painfully stupid.
kriers

ziin wrote:

stuff like shoreline is probably a bad idea. rhythms are painfully stupid.
there is nothing wrong with the rythm in shoreline :( why does it make sense to me?

For good players who want to learn streaming, it's not just massive stream practice. It's also an excellent way to start adapting to old style beatmaps with lower approach rates and I don't see why that wouldn't be a good thing?
Just consider that all the players out there, who work hard to become better in every aspect, still whine when they see anything lower than AR9. :lol:
Haseo
smash z/x
Espionage724

kriers wrote:

Neruell wrote:

a good sense of rhythm helps A LOT.
this.
Even if you suck at streams, you can still use your sense of rythm to force it over to your fingers if you actually listen to the hitsounds
This

Although sometimes this doesn't work too well for me. It seems like I'm following the beat, but I see a bunch of 100's, 50's then eventually X's sometimes (I don't think I have an audio/video desync thing either). Probably just me following the wrong beat or something :p

Then there are some songs where this works perfectly :)
SOUND HOLIC - Earthquake Super Shock
Tamura Yukari - Endless Story

In any case though, I used to practice streaming endurance on O-Life Japan - Yakujinsama no Couple Dance
Jalatiphra

Zelmarked wrote:

I find it fairly easy. I have to play it a couple times to get down the tempo, and then it comes natural. I just play in my head "da da da da da da da da", like a metronome, to help time my s/d. Sometimes I'll bob my head left and right to physically replicate a metronome.
this is what neruell called : good sense of rythm..

also': play this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25127 for improving with slow bpm streams
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Colored
so guys thank you for tips and beatmaps \:D/
Neruell
I wouldn't recommend you to make a live blog out of this thread though.
thelewa
Just pointing one thing out in here, most of the people who can stream low bpm well are people who had weak fingers and couldn't play faster streams when they begun playing.

So basically it takes time and proves that just playing the hardest and fastest maps ever isn't the best way to improve, especially if you want to have good overall accuracy.
Neruell
Nothing against anyone, but in osu! accuracy doesn't matter if you can't keep the combo. So people who get a fc even with spamming and low accuracy > top accuracy but 1 or 2 misses. So basically speed > accuracy. Can't stream low bpm, do it like cookiezi and play with dt. xD
lolcubes

Neruell wrote:

Nothing against anyone, but in osu! accuracy doesn't matter if you can't keep the combo. So people who get a fc even with spamming and low accuracy > top accuracy but 1 or 2 misses. So basically speed > accuracy. Can't stream low bpm, do it like cookiezi and play with dt. xD
If you care about the score and the ranking atleast. I play this game for fun, and accuracy play is fun for me. Obviously FCing is a thing you should be doing always haha.
Also if you have godlike accuracy, HD HR can have pretty awesome score too.
-Ryosuke
Otherwise i offers that for you : http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27754
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Colored

Neruell wrote:

Nothing against anyone, but in osu! accuracy doesn't matter if you can't keep the combo. So people who get a fc even with spamming and low accuracy > top accuracy but 1 or 2 misses. So basically speed > accuracy. Can't stream low bpm, do it like cookiezi and play with dt. xD
oh i just know one thing - man, who have fast fingers must can play low streams and control low speed for play 160bpm+dt with awesome accuracy :3
and cookie can play low streams i know )


-Kamui- wrote:

Otherwise i offers that for you : http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27754
yeah, im playing it too. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/244835 shitty acc:D but nice map
kriers
Cookiezi played tons of marisa before venturing into high bpm (or so he says when interviewed by KRZY). He probably learned low bpm and built up his speed gradually.
lolcubes
You can also try this map here: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/65417.
Or MENDES, although that one is more about stamina rather than low bpm.

Also try to avoid low OD (7 and under) maps if you want to train your accuracy on, because they give you too much of "free space" where you can be wrong in clicking and still get 300s. Lixaxil is a good example of that problem. But it's not a bad thing to start training on I suppose.
Neruell
I would consider myself as more or less good in low bpm streams but I actually never had any special practice for it. In opposite I always went for as fast as I can. Also I wouldn't call Marisa low bpm, it's more like fast bpm to me. Also as far as I know cookiezi trained his stamina rather than speed with it.
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Colored

lolcubes wrote:

You can also try this map here: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/65417.
Or MENDES, although that one is more about stamina rather than low bpm.

Also try to avoid low OD (7 and under) maps if you want to train your accuracy on, because they give you too much of "free space" where you can be wrong in clicking and still get 300s. Lixaxil is a good example of that problem. But it's not a bad thing to start training on I suppose.
oh ok. i'll try
oh MENDES D: hate mendes lol http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/244861
thnx :D
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