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Tablet Purchase Guide for osu!

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thelewa

Zelmarked wrote:

I can't reason buying a peripheral at that price to do better for one application. I have no interest in pursuing digital art. I'd buy a joystick so I can have better control in the multitude of games involving flying; makes sense. But I can't see any application of a tablet outside of Osu!. No offense to those more dedicated to the game.

Good guide. Very thorough.
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Hiyorin
I use a bamboo with a very small active area. I have never used it for anything outside of osu! so naturally there would be areas (the active area and where I rest my hand) that would experience more wear. You can see this as it turns from matte (unused) to glossy (most used), will this affect the functionality of my tablet? I'm assuming your tablet is like that since you have used it for four years, but as mentioned works like new, so am I only wearing away at the aesthetic value?
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Daru

FruitTingles wrote:

I use a bamboo with a very small active area. I have never used it for anything outside of osu! so naturally there would be areas (the active area and where I rest my hand) that would experience more wear. You can see this as it turns from matte (unused) to glossy (most used), will this affect the functionality of my tablet? I'm assuming your tablet is like that since you have used it for four years, but as mentioned works like new, so am I only wearing away at the aesthetic value?
The overlay sheets and pen nibs are made to be replaceable. If you run your fingernail along the side, you can lift it up and remove it to replace it. The only difference that you'll see from the more worn areas is a different "feel" when the pen draws over it. It'll feel a bit more slippery, especially if you're using a second or third generation bamboo with the textured overlay sheet.

The tablet's working bits are all on the inside, and have nothing to do with the contact of the pen on the tablet surface. If you place a piece of cardboard on the tablet and then start to draw, it will still work. The overlay sheet is just a piece of plastic, and so are the tablet nibs.


(My overlay sheet actually has gashes and holes in it... They're pretty expensive so I'm looking for a cheap material that has the same feel, though in the mean time the only difference I feel is the occasional small bump when the pen runs over a scratch or holel. Protip for the pen nibs, you can use plastic wire from a weed whacker that's the same diameter of the nib for a cheap, effective replacement.)
Hiyorin
Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. I knew the nibs could be replaced because I had to insert one when I initially got it but I didn't know about the overlay sheet. The "feel" shouldn't be an issue because the only time my pen contacts the pad is when I change songs haha.
Meowcenaries
Great guide
Sander-Don

Daru wrote:

For osu!, you are very unlikely to need a Cintiq or Intuos
I use an intuos 3. :<
kriers

Sander-Don wrote:

Daru wrote:

For osu!, you are very unlikely to need a Cintiq or Intuos
I use an intuos 3. :<
I used intous 4 /o/ lool
ShangMing

Zelmarked wrote:

I can't reason buying a peripheral at that price to do better for one application. I have no interest in pursuing digital art. I'd buy a joystick so I can have better control in the multitude of games involving flying; makes sense. But I can't see any application of a tablet outside of Osu!. No offense to those more dedicated to the game.

Good guide. Very thorough.
I can't reason buying a hockey stick at their prices to do better at that one sport. I can't reason buying a pair of running shoes at that price just to do better at running. etc. etc.

Maybe once you stop being a noob or closed minded, you wouldn't make such idiotic comments. Also, when you say "no offense", that pretty much says that you know that your comment was going to be offensive.
Zelmarked

ShangMing wrote:

Zelmarked wrote:

I can't reason buying a peripheral at that price to do better for one application. I have no interest in pursuing digital art. I'd buy a joystick so I can have better control in the multitude of games involving flying; makes sense. But I can't see any application of a tablet outside of Osu!. No offense to those more dedicated to the game.

Good guide. Very thorough.
I can't reason buying a hockey stick at their prices to do better at that one sport. I can't reason buying a pair of running shoes at that price just to do better at running. etc. etc.

Maybe once you stop being a noob or closed minded, you wouldn't make such idiotic comments. Also, when you say "no offense", that pretty much says that you know that your comment was going to be offensive.
My preference to not buy a object for one particular app is offense? I typed no offense because obviously there exist those who care about doing really good at one thing over others. "I", as I typed, do not.
Lesjuh
Great guide! I wouldn't recommend buying a tablet just for osu! since it doesn't make alotta difference when you practice enough, and it's expensive. I'd say don't give up on mousing too early and don't be fooled by statements as "all good players are tablet players".

Ofcourse if you're very dedicated to the game, wouldn't mind missing some money and would like to try tabletting, by all means do get one \o/
Gonzvlo
Great guide, changed to sticky.
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Daru

Sander-Don wrote:

Daru wrote:

For osu!, you are very unlikely to need a Cintiq or Intuos
I use an intuos 3. :<
Haha, so do I. :)

Of course, I use my Intuos 3 for art as well, where it is a significant improvement upon the Bamboo. Strictly for osu!, however, the Intuos3 won't be any better than a Bamboo.
_lain
I had my Intuos 3 stolen a while back, and went to mouse, then to a bamboo, I can proudly say there is no difference while playing Osu!.
Drawing, on the other hand...
[Kanzaki Ranko]
Very nice and accurate guide. Though, there's something that's wrong, from my point of view.

Daru wrote:

In Short: Wacom's the recommend brand. Cintiq and Intuos tablets are too expensive and give no real advantage over Bamboo for osu!. See the recommend options above for the recommend models. Also try your luck at a used Intuos3 if you're also into art.
A Cintiq tablet is probably much better than a Bamboo/Intuos one for osu!, resembling the DS gaming experience. If you have someone on your family that has a professional use for a Cintiq and has a old one (if this person bought a bigger one, for example), it's actually better than the other two lines.
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Daru

Maav wrote:

Very nice and accurate guide. Though, there's something that's wrong, from my point of view.

Daru wrote:

In Short: Wacom's the recommend brand. Cintiq and Intuos tablets are too expensive and give no real advantage over Bamboo for osu!. See the recommend options above for the recommend models. Also try your luck at a used Intuos3 if you're also into art.
A Cintiq tablet is probably much better than a Bamboo/Intuos one for osu!, resembling the DS gaming experience. If you have someone on your family that has a professional use for a Cintiq and has a old one (if this person bought a bigger one, for example), it's actually better than the other two lines.
I say "give no real advantage" with respect with the price. The small bamboo can be had for $70, whereas Cintiqs start at $1000. I feel that it's very hard to justify buying a Cintiq if you're going to use it for only osu! at this price difference. Furthermore, the advantages of playing on a screen are, for some, countered by the disadvantage of having your hand and arm covering a good bit of your play area, so I don't think it's right to say that Cintiqs are objectively better than the tablets without screens. From my personal experience I've found this disadvantage to be very significant (I've played osu! on a friend's 12" Cintiq, as well as Tablet PCs).

As for getting things from relatives, note that this is a tablet purchase guide. ;)
I'm trying to weigh price relative to functionality in osu!, and paying upwards of $1000 for a device that you're only going to use for osu! would be, in my opinion, a complete waste of money.

Though, thanks for the input. :)
nVidi4x
Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a GOOD tablet go for BAMBOO CONNECT (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 3 tablets was the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 2nd and 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 1or 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio (AR) 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me. This is very helpful because you can decide your area with numerical values.

EDIT

Active areas for tablets
you obtain the aspect ration in full area dividing long by high

Intuos4 = 6.2" x 3.9" in AR= 1.59
2nd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61
3rd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61

so as you can see, all wacom tablets*were made for AR 16:10, consider this to play in a good "rectangular proportion" ingame, you shouldn't try to introduce a square into a rectangle, that's why AR is sooo important.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
LnDSuv

nVidi4x wrote:

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
MMzz

LnDSuv wrote:

nVidi4x wrote:

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
Pen and touch just has a feature where you can use your finger.
Buy the pen.
nVidi4x

LnDSuv wrote:

I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
I edited the info, all tablets were made for ar 16:10.
Pen and Touch is White and (just) Pen is Black.
Touch must be disable to play osu well, but is the same tablet, it has the same spech techs. just buy the color that u want :)
Topic Starter
Daru
Actually the older tablets are 4:3. ;)
Basically everything before the Bamboo tablets are 4:3, and most everything after is 16:10. There is still a Cintiq that's 4:3, I believe. My intuos3 is 9x12", or 4:3.

I didn't put any info about actually playing with a tablet because that would require a thread in and of itself, I think - this is strictly a purchase guide that weighs the various benefits of certain tablets against the prices, plus some basic info.

@LnDSuv:
The majority of monitors nowadays are 16:9, though most "art" class monitors that focus on color reproduction above all else are 16:10, which is part of the reason why the tablets are made in that aspect ratio. I'd personally recommend remapping it to have 1:1 vertical:horizontal movement, even if it means you're cutting off a bit of the active area to do so. My tablet is 4:3, but I have a 16:10 monitor, so there's a slice at the bottom that's not used.

The difference between Pen&Touch and Pen models is really just the "touch" function. I really don't think it's worth it, but that's just from my personal experience.

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Oh, and to answer that question from a while ago about overlay sheets...

I've found that a piece of plexiglass cut to the correct dimensions, then sanded down with very fine sandpaper (600+ grit) makes for a suitable, cheap replacement for your overlay sheet. The sheet can then be adhered to the tablet with some double-sided tape. It's quite a bit thicker than the regular sheet, which is the only drawback, but you can get decently sized pieces for under $4, which is much cheaper than Wacom's $30 replacement sheets.
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