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Yuukari-Banteki
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 9:51:20 PM

Artist: T.A.T.U.
Title: Stars
BPM: 90
Filesize: 6422kb
Play Time: 03:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0.95 stars, 130 notes)
  2. Hard (4.8 stars, 376 notes)
Download: T.A.T.U. - Stars
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Both difficulties completed, but need to be modded for timing and spacing. Should I rename "Hard" to "Insane"?

Edit: Retimed, needs modding for spacing tho (i know i have a few rough spots but im not sure what to do with them)

Edit: respaced...

Edit: MM201's edits on [Hard]

Edit: [Easy] respaced~

Edit: Matty's edits on both diffs (excepting the break in easy)

Edit: Matty's second wave of edits done.

Edit: All right, have a background. That's the onlyyyy chaaaaaaaaange

Edit: Max's edits done~
Behon
Needs moar Normal.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
awp
BPM: 90
Offset: 44,430

gl hf
mm201
BPM: 90, Offset: 1750 is what works best for me. (And it makes all the times even %250ms numbers!)

Please ignore all readability comments if you're doing this on purpose to try to make the stage more difficult.

Hard:
  1. 0:58:750 (1): I hate sliders that are curled into themselves in an overlapping kind of way. Making the whole thing a little bigger (spiraling is fine) would go a long way.
  2. 1:00:250 (5): Spaced like a 1/2. Move closer to the yellow 4.
  3. 1:07:750 (8): Readability. This note is covered up by the score of a previous note, rendering it unseeable.
  4. 1:14:750 (5): Spaced like a 1/2. Move further away from the yellow 4. (drag the whole group)
  5. 1:16:083 (1): Move closer to the yellow 8.
  6. 1:16:xxx: This whole group seems to be spaced just a bit wider than it should be. (All your other 1/4s overlap, while these ones just barely touch.)
  7. 1:20:750 (8): Readability. Perfectly covered by the 6 and 7.
  8. 1:21:416 (1): Spacing. Move further from the end of the blue slider (8).
  9. 1:22:416 (5): Moving this closer to the end of the previous slider should fix both the spacing issues associated with this note.
  10. 1:23:xxx (7, 8, 9): Spaced far too wide apart for 1/4s.
  11. 1:30:916 (5): Spacing. Move closer to the red 4.
  12. 1:31:250 (6): Spacing. Move closer to the previous slider.
  13. 1:32:416 (2): Spacing. Move closer to the previous slider. Loads more of these up ahead I won't mention. You should get the drill.
  14. 1:34:083 (7): Should be closer to the end of the previous slider and the following 8. Move this and the next one closer together.
  15. 1:41:416 (3): Spacing. Move further from the yellow 2. (This has the same time difference as 2 to 1, but is much closer for some reason.)
  16. 1:43 - 1:49: No complaints about the James Spacing here from me. :P
  17. 1:53:750 (4): I think it's an important readability rule to make all notes in a stack have the same time difference between them. This one doesn't. Either add a note at 1:53:583 or move this one off of the stack.
  18. 1:57:416 (10): ^ First solution non-applicable.
  19. 1:58:416 (3): Major readability with this slider crossing under the 1/2, then under itself and ending beneath the 1 again.
  20. 2:04:250 (2) and 2:04:583 (3): Both the uneven stack issue seen at 1:53:750, plus these notes don't seem to be synched to anything.
  21. 2:08:749 (2): Move closer to the end of the yellow slider (1).
  22. 2:09:916 (6): Readibility. This stack is covered up by the score bubble of the 3.
  23. 2:10:416 (8): Spacing. Move just a touch further away from the 7.
  24. 2:16:750 (7): Spacing. Move further away from the green 6.
  25. 2:18:xxx (8, 9, 10): Spacing. Move these closer together.
  26. 2:20:416 (4): Spacing. Move further from the blue 3. (This whole stream seems much more squished than the rest of the level.)
  27. 2:21:416 (7): Same stacking consistency issue from 1:53:750.
  28. 2:49:083 (7): Spacing. Move closer to the end of the previous slider.
  29. 3:12:916 (2): Spacing. Tuck this closer to the 1 and the 3 and all should be well.
  30. 3:15:750 (7): Spacing. Move closer to the end of the previous slider.
  31. 3:16:083 (8): ^
  32. 3:17:083 (1): See 0:58:750.
  33. 3:18:916 (3) and 3:19:083 (4): Spacing. Move closer together and to the end of the previous slider.
  34. 3:20:083 (6): Spacing. Reverse the direction of this slider. Then switch the places of 7 and 9.
  35. 3:24:250 (3): Spacing. Tuck in closer to the 1 and 3. I'd suggest also moving this note to the outside of the big mess here for readability.
  36. 3:32 - 3:34: A messy beast, but everything checks out from a technical standpoint. The starting points of the sliders do overlap a little bit, which is good.
  37. 3:36:416 (3): Spacing. Move closer to the green 2. All these overlapping endpoints are very hard to read.
  38. 3:40 - 3:42: Classic example of newbie spacing. (Not saying that you are; this is a good map.) Each of these notes has identical spacing but vastly different timing.
  39. 3:43:xxx (6, 7, 8, 9): Big case of that stacking issue from 1:53:750.
  40. 3:47:083 (6): Spacing. Move further away from the red 5.
  41. 3:48:083 (9): Spacing. Move closer to the red 8.
  42. 3:49:083 (2): Spacing. Move closer to the yellow 1, or move it closer to this.
  43. 3:52:250 (2): NO!! This note occurs at the SAME TIME the previous slider ends, rendering it impossible.
  44. 3:53:583 (2): Spacing. Move closer to the end of the previous slider.
  45. 3:54:250 (2): Spacing. Tuck in closer to the green 1 and the blue 1.
  46. 3:54:416 - 3:54:916 (1-3): Spacing. Tighten the spacing on this whole combo so they all overlap.
Will take a look at Easy later. :P
ash
something i noticed

MetalMario201 wrote:

[*]3:52:250 (2): NO!! This note occurs at the SAME TIME the previous slider ends, rendering it impossible.

it's not impossible; it's a game element that would be interesting (imo) but is not allowed

yeah it isn't impossible

will mod later, sfg <3
mattyu007
Timing
44,430 / 99 sounds good, not much to say here
44,424 / 99

Easy
The spacing on this difficulty is a little inconsistent, but it's not THAT bad..... :|

00:53:09 (1) - Maybe it's just me, becuase I like pwetty sliders :3, if you could even out the spaces in between the spiral that would be nice~
00:59:09 (2) - Should be moved farther away from the end of (1)
01:27:76 (2) - ^
01:39:59 (4) - Move farther from (3)
02:49:43 - Just saying, this is a REALLY long break...
03:28:93 (5) - Shift 1/4 forward
03:39:59 (1) - Shift 1/4 forward
03:41:42 (2) - Move closer to the end of (1)

Hard
Why soft sampleset on this and normal set on easy?

01:05:43 (1,2) and 01:06:09 (3,4) and all other sets like these - They should be seperated apart a little more, or the beat that comes after the 1/4 slider should be moved away from the next set
02:01:43 (8) - New combo
02:25:09 (1) - Ends 1/4 too early, fix, remove break and place the break again
02:26:76 - This break is excessively long, maybe map something in it?
02:52:09 - ^
03:38:76 (7) - Should be a little closer to (6)
03:48:93 (1) - Should be closer to (2)


Fix those and I'll bubble (I hope), but for now...
s
(lol pun)
mattyu007
You're soooo close to a bubble~

Easy
01:39:59 (4) - Should be an even distance between (3) and the next (1)
02:41:75 (1) - Could you possible make the space between the slider and the slider start a little more even? ^^;;
03:16:09 (3) - A little farther from (2)

Hard
00:58:76 (1) - Could you possible make the space between the slider and the slider start a little more even? ^^;;
01:40:93 (2) - Should be evenly spaced between the end of (1) and the start of (3)
01:48:09 (3,4) - Should be spaced about as far as (2) and (3) are
02:04:26 (2) - Possible remove it? It doesnt go very well with the beat
02:08:76 (2,3,4) - Should be spaced evenly apart
02:49:92 (1) - Spinner should start 1/4 beat earlier and end 3/4 beat earlier(or end 1/2 earlier, if you adjusted the start of the spinner)
02:52:09 - Remove and re-set the break


Just as a little side note, any plans for a background for this song? I'm sure Google Images would be able to find something that you could use...
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
No, I'm not adding an image. Sorry.
ash
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki

Ash wrote:

I was going to bubble it, but this just turned me away

also, the difficulty jump between easy and hard makes me sadface

are you really not going to make a normal? :(

1. I'm not putting a background image because I only rarely have access to both an image and the map at the same time. It's a matter of wtfmyschoolblockedEVERYTHING and my not being on osu :/ I suppose if I really wanted to I could find an image on this computer, put it on my osUSB key, bring it to school, put it in there, then come BACK here and wait for the next time I can get onto osu to put the new map up, but thats just overly headachey :(

2. No normal because that would vastly increase the amount of time until this thing gets ranked and I need those slots. Badly.
ash

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

1. I'm not putting a background image because I only rarely have access to both an image and the map at the same time. It's a matter of wtfmyschoolblockedEVERYTHING and my not being on osu :/ I suppose if I really wanted to I could find an image on this computer, put it on my osUSB key, bring it to school, put it in there, then come BACK here and wait for the next time I can get onto osu to put the new map up, but thats just overly headachey :(

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

2. No normal because that would vastly increase the amount of time until this thing gets ranked and I need those slots. Badly.
more effort usually = more time
if you don't want to put in the effort, well, okay that's your decision
mattyu007
alrite then, time to go drown~
MaxwellDemon
Hard
01:07:43 (7,8) - Beatspacing? :( Too close
02:20:09 (3,4) - Feels too close?
02:21:09 (6,7) - Too close again?
(Note: Generally, I think I know you are trying to fluctuate between beatspacing, but some of these turned out quite confusing as it seems to happen too frequently)
02:21:43 (7,8) - This is definitely too far compared to the previous ones XD
02:46:76 (1,2,3) - Almost no beatspacing differences
03:19:09 (4,5,6) - More beatspacing issue... the distance between 5 and 6 is farther than 4 and 5. ;X
03:24:09 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again, almost no beatspacing differences :(
03:43:59 (8,9,10,11) - I generally disagree with stacks that have different time intervals. XO

I probably missed a bit... but generally, go over your map again and try to build a concrete amount of beatspacing and try not to fluctuate it. I hope you aren't discouraged by me popping your bubble! Fix this up, and I'll come back and rank it since beat placements are generally fine.
MaxwellDemon
Everything is fixed, since I am the one who bursted the bubble~ Ranked.
dymo
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
RemmyX25
ow my fingers pain.


love ya, SFG, but...



Ow...
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