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Nippon Gakuon Noise Kyoukai - Igomoyos=Omul no Thema ni yoru

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2018年3月6日 at 15:50:13

Artist: Nippon Gakuon Noise Kyoukai
Title: Igomoyos=Omul no Thema ni yoru Buyobuyo Sketch no Kokoromi
Source: SOUND VOLTEX II -infinite infection-
Tags: Soyomogi Lumo theme Tokyo Θinema Paradiso コードなき時代の楽団 nihon Independent Research Original Song Contest 夏だ!休みだ!自由研究オリジナル楽曲コンテスト yassu- komasy
BPM: 200
Filesize: 4722kb
Play Time: 01:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Inner Oni (5.32 stars, 741 notes)
  2. komasy's Oni (4.5 stars, 627 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (3.26 stars, 480 notes)
  4. yassu-'s Futsuu (2.71 stars, 295 notes)
  5. yassu-'s Kantan (1.6 stars, 157 notes)
Download: Nippon Gakuon Noise Kyoukai - Igomoyos=Omul no Thema ni yoru Buyobuyo Sketch no Kokoromi
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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←TJBC#4 TJBC#6→
yassu-'s Kantan - by yassu-
yassu-'s Futsuu - by yassu-
Muzukashii - by me
komasy's Oni - by me komasy
Inner Oni - by me (osu!taiko Japanese Beatmap Contest#5 1st place)

Special Thanks

  • [modders]
  1. yassu-
  2. TKS
  3. tasuke912
  4. JUDYDANNY ありがとうございました

    [nomination]
  5. tasuke912
  6. JUDYDANNY
  7. tasuke912
  8. tasuke912
  9. Fycho

    [banner]
  10. tasuke912


tjbc のタグ付けるの忘れた
forum/p/6335518/
yassu-
tagに”yassu-”を加えておいてください。

それとmuzukashiiが難しいので易化した方が良いかもしれません。

yassu-'s Kantan
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ArtistUnicode:日本楽音ノイズ協会
Creator:uone
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Source:SOUND VOLTEX II -infinite infection-
Tags:Soyomogi Lumo Tokyo Θinema Paradiso コードなき時代の楽団 nihon
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yassu-'s Futsuu
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IRC mod
01:52 yassu-: muzukashiiはかなり局所難になってしまっているので、難所を易化して他を少しだけ詰めた方が良いかと
01:53 uone: なるほど
01:53 uone: 最後はやっぱまずいですか?
01:55 yassu-: 最後もそうかとおもいますが、
01:56 yassu-: 00:38:740 (166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217) -
01:56 yassu-: この配置でこの配色が許容されるかどうか。。。
01:57 uone: たしかに混ぜ混ぜですね
01:57 yassu-: とくにkdkkd(1/3)はまずいとおもいます
01:57 uone: たしかに...
01:58 uone: muzuじゃ見たことないですね たぶん
01:58 yassu-: ハネリズムにするならもうすこし単色寄りにした方が良いかと
01:59 uone: そうします
01:59 yassu-: 01:18:340 (343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354,355) - ここも
02:00 uone: kkkdとかkkkkdってありですかね?
02:00 uone: 1/3で
02:01 yassu-: 単色ならありだと思いますが、bpmが200なのでそれでも怪しいですね、、、
02:02 uone: ちょっとパパッと変えてみますね
02:02 uone: いろいろなとこ
02:07 uone: muzukashii更新しました!
02:08 uone: 結構無理やりノリで変えました
02:08 uone: 00:27:840 (113,114,115,116) - dkddkから変更
02:09 uone: 00:29:940 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - kkを増やした
02:09 uone: 00:36:640 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160) - とりあえずイントロと同じにしてみた
02:10 uone: 00:38:740 (162) - 00:50:140 (212) 単純にしました
02:11 uone: 01:18:340 (338) - 01:22:690 (364)
02:11 uone: 単純にしました2
02:12 uone: 俺から聞くのも変ですがこれってあれになります?
02:13 uone: IRC
02:13 yassu-: まあkdsは貰えるとおもいますw
02:13 yassu-: これだけ変更があれば
02:13 uone: ぜひどうぞ
02:14 uone: muzukashiiとか初めて作るので聞くこと全部参考になります
02:15 yassu-: 00:27:840 (113) - 00:28:140 (115) - これけして00:28:240 - ここkkk(1/4)にしませんか?
02:16 yassu-: そしたら00:27:940 - d?
02:16 uone: さっきよりしっくりくるのでそれでいきます
02:17 uone: 00:28:540 (117) いまinnerの名残でdだけどDでもいいですかね
02:17 yassu-: 00:31:440 (129) - delete? ここだけkdがあるのも違和感があるとおもう
02:18 yassu-: いいとおもいます
02:18 uone: すっきりした...
02:18 uone: Dりょうかいです
02:19 uone: kけしました
02:19 yassu-: 00:48:840 - これも?
02:22 uone: とりあえず消しときました
02:22 uone: ここメロディとドラムがぶつかってるからのちのちにも指摘されそうですね
02:23 uone: innerばりばりドラム寄りだったけどメロディよりの方が色を簡略化できて叩きやすく作れそう
02:24 yassu-: 00:48:840 - del 01:18:640 (338,339,340) - d?
02:25 yassu-: 01:19:940 (344,345,346) - このkkkto
02:25 yassu-: 対になる感じで
02:26 uone: 個人的には対ってより同じって感じでした
02:27 uone: するんだったらkkkkにしたいですね
02:27 yassu-: まかせます
02:27 uone: りょうかいです
02:30 yassu-: あと1/4が少ないような気もする。
02:31 uone: 遠慮して入れませんでした
02:31 uone: よくわからんだったので
02:32 yassu-: 00:36:190 (150,151,152) - ここ1/4いれるなら00:34:240 - ここもkkk?
02:33 uone: kkkいれました
02:34 uone: 00:34:090 - ここdいれました
02:37 yassu-: とりあえずこのくらいで、
02:37 uone: いや~
02:37 uone: 超ありがとうございました!
02:37 uone: たすかりました
02:37 yassu-: いえいえ~
Topic Starter
uone

yassu- wrote:

tagに”yassu-”を加えておいてください。

それとmuzukashiiが難しいので易化した方が良いかもしれません。

yassu-'s Kantan
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256,192,78040,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,78340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,78640,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,78790,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,78940,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,79240,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,79690,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,79990,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,80140,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,80440,1,6,0:0:0:0:
248,192,80740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,80890,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81040,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81640,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81940,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,82090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,82240,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,82540,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,82690,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,83140,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,83740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84190,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84640,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86440,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86890,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,87340,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,87790,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,88240,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,88690,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,89140,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,89590,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,89890,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,90040,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,90490,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,90940,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,91090,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,91390,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,91840,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,92290,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,92740,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,93190,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,93640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,94090,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,94390,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,94540,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,94840,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,94990,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,95290,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,95440,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,96340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,96790,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,97240,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,97690,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,98140,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,98290,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,98440,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,98590,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,99040,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,99490,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,99940,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,100390,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,100540,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,100690,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,100840,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101290,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,101740,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102190,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,102940,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,103090,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,103540,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,192,103840,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,192,103990,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,104440,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,104740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,104890,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,105190,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,105340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,105640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,105790,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,106240,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,106540,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,106690,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,106990,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,107140,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,107440,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,107590,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,107740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,107890,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,110140,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,112240,12,4,115240,0:0:0:0:

IRC mod
01:52 yassu-: muzukashiiはかなり局所難になってしまっているので、難所を易化して他を少しだけ詰めた方が良いかと
01:53 uone: なるほど
01:53 uone: 最後はやっぱまずいですか?
01:55 yassu-: 最後もそうかとおもいますが、
01:56 yassu-: 00:38:740 (166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217) -
01:56 yassu-: この配置でこの配色が許容されるかどうか。。。
01:57 uone: たしかに混ぜ混ぜですね
01:57 yassu-: とくにkdkkd(1/3)はまずいとおもいます
01:57 uone: たしかに...
01:58 uone: muzuじゃ見たことないですね たぶん
01:58 yassu-: ハネリズムにするならもうすこし単色寄りにした方が良いかと
01:59 uone: そうします
01:59 yassu-: 01:18:340 (343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354,355) - ここも
02:00 uone: kkkdとかkkkkdってありですかね?
02:00 uone: 1/3で
02:01 yassu-: 単色ならありだと思いますが、bpmが200なのでそれでも怪しいですね、、、
02:02 uone: ちょっとパパッと変えてみますね
02:02 uone: いろいろなとこ
02:07 uone: muzukashii更新しました!
02:08 uone: 結構無理やりノリで変えました
02:08 uone: 00:27:840 (113,114,115,116) - dkddkから変更
02:09 uone: 00:29:940 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - kkを増やした
02:09 uone: 00:36:640 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160) - とりあえずイントロと同じにしてみた
02:10 uone: 00:38:740 (162) - 00:50:140 (212) 単純にしました
02:11 uone: 01:18:340 (338) - 01:22:690 (364)
02:11 uone: 単純にしました2
02:12 uone: 俺から聞くのも変ですがこれってあれになります?
02:13 uone: IRC
02:13 yassu-: まあkdsは貰えるとおもいますw
02:13 yassu-: これだけ変更があれば
02:13 uone: ぜひどうぞ
02:14 uone: muzukashiiとか初めて作るので聞くこと全部参考になります
02:15 yassu-: 00:27:840 (113) - 00:28:140 (115) - これけして00:28:240 - ここkkk(1/4)にしませんか?
02:16 yassu-: そしたら00:27:940 - d?
02:16 uone: さっきよりしっくりくるのでそれでいきます
02:17 uone: 00:28:540 (117) いまinnerの名残でdだけどDでもいいですかね
02:17 yassu-: 00:31:440 (129) - delete? ここだけkdがあるのも違和感があるとおもう
02:18 yassu-: いいとおもいます
02:18 uone: すっきりした...
02:18 uone: Dりょうかいです
02:19 uone: kけしました
02:19 yassu-: 00:48:840 - これも?
02:22 uone: とりあえず消しときました
02:22 uone: ここメロディとドラムがぶつかってるからのちのちにも指摘されそうですね
02:23 uone: innerばりばりドラム寄りだったけどメロディよりの方が色を簡略化できて叩きやすく作れそう
02:24 yassu-: 00:48:840 - del 01:18:640 (338,339,340) - d?
02:25 yassu-: 01:19:940 (344,345,346) - このkkkto
02:25 yassu-: 対になる感じで
02:26 uone: 個人的には対ってより同じって感じでした
02:27 uone: するんだったらkkkkにしたいですね
02:27 yassu-: まかせます
02:27 uone: りょうかいです
02:30 yassu-: あと1/4が少ないような気もする。
02:31 uone: 遠慮して入れませんでした
02:31 uone: よくわからんだったので
02:32 yassu-: 00:36:190 (150,151,152) - ここ1/4いれるなら00:34:240 - ここもkkk?
02:33 uone: kkkいれました
02:34 uone: 00:34:090 - ここdいれました
02:37 yassu-: とりあえずこのくらいで、
02:37 uone: いや~
02:37 uone: 超ありがとうございました!
02:37 uone: たすかりました
02:37 yassu-: いえいえ~

ありがとうございます!Kantan、Futsuu追加しました!
muzukashiiは見直します → modありがとうございました!助かりました
tasuke912
modded on modding V2
JUDYDANNY
No kudosu.
Because of too much mods, I post v1. (mapper can easy to see maybe)
I'll write v2 same contents too.  →Done. https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/690019/discussion
[Mapset overall]
  1. Kantan~Muzukashiiにおいて、全体的にまだムラが見られます。繋げる必要のない箇所が多いこと、1パターン毎の変化ではなく、1パート毎の変化形に甘さが見られます。
  2. MuzukashiiがMuzukashiiです、1/3の作り・1/4の繋ぎは修正してよりシンプルにしてあげた方がいいです。
  3. 00:07:840 - ~00:15:040 - (Kantan~Muzukashii)と00:15:040 - ~00:22:240 - (Kantan~Muzukashii)の作りに関して流れがどの難易度も整っていません。Originalの関してもTJBCの感想で述べたように、ここの作りに疑問が強く残ります。
  4. 01:02:140 - ~01:11:140 - Kantan~Muzukashiiにおいてもっと密度は落とせると思います。
[Kantan]
Comment
  1. 全体的に疎の部分がなさすぎて物量が多すぎます。ゆとりをもたせるべき個所はより持たせた方がいいと思います。
    :!: 00:15:040 - ~前パートより音の種類が増えているのに対し物量が少ないです、要修正。
  1. 00:06:940 - k? 高音ピアノフォローが綺麗に拾えると思います
  2. 00:08:290 - , 00:10:090 - , 00:11:890 - , 00:13:690 - remove, 00:12:340 - d?
    - 00:07:840 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ~と00:15:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ~とで物量のバランスが気になります、前者の物量を叩いたのちに15:040の物量は、メロディラインが加わっているのに落差が見られます。
  3. 00:16:390 - , 00:19:990 - add d? 理由は前述。
  4. 00:24:940 - バスドラは鳴っていますがメロディラインを考慮すると削ってもよいと思います。
  5. 00:55:390 - , 00:57:190 - , 00:58:990 - same, remove?
  6. 01:04:540 - , 01:06:040 - , 強くremove推奨。KantanのCalmパートにしてはゆったりとした流れとしてもう少し3/1のリズムを続かせておきたいところです
  7. 01:18:040 - , 01:20:140 - removeして01:20:740 - add kを代替案としてはどうでしょうか、リズムがややこしいので
  8. 01:16:540 - ~ 01:22:690 - において、TJBCの譜面評価から気になってわざわざゲーム動画見て疑問でしたが、そもそも公式である拍設定のワルツ自体が怪しく、リズムの設定がいやらしいです。
     ただ、Kantanとしてはもう少し簡略化できるはずです。現状はリズムがややこしすぎて難易度が跳ねあがりすぎです。
     8分の使用を極力さけるように、例えばこのようにしてみてはどうでしょうかhttp://puu.sh/yACz1/a31372ab33.jpg
     特に01:22:240 - 強くremove推奨、その後の繋ぎの流れをぶった切る変化をハッキリさせるためにもメリハリが欲しいです。
  9. 01:24:640 - 個人的なことですが、シンバルの余韻はすぐ分ちぎられてるのでfinishにしなくてもよいと思います。 
  10. 01:31:840 - D? (or01:31:840 (1,2) - D-K?) 3/1拍子でのd-d-k-dの流れが01:28:240 - ~で作られているので音の変化が強くないので同様にdフロー開始でいいと思います。
  11. 01:41:290 - , 01:44:890 - add? 全体量を比較すると物量が不足してるように感じます。
  12. 01:45:340 - change normal?
  13. 01:40:840 - change normal, 01:46:240 - add finish? 盛り上がり度を考えたらこちらの方が幾分fitすると思います、ただspreadを考慮するならfinish自体なくてもいいという考え方もできます。どちらも合うと思うのでお任せします。
[Futsuu]
Comment


  • :!: 00:15:040 - ~前パートは伴奏音、バスドラ音に対して沿っているのに対し、こちらは バスドラ・伴奏音が中途半端、かといってスネア・メロディライン拾いも中途半端なリズムです。要修正。
  1. 00:06:040 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - 盛り上がるパートでもないのと、物量自体が次のパートの00:07:840 - より上であること。よって1/1は無理して続けなくてよいと思います。00:06:340 (14,17) - remove?
    1. 00:06:640 (14,15) - またKantanでも述べたようにピアノ拾いでdkがよいと思います。
  2. 00:09:340 - , 00:11:140 - ,00:12:640 (1,3) - remove? Futsuuの音の粒が少ないパートにしてはやけにリズムがややこしいです。
  3. 00:14:440 - only, remove? こちらは音の粒が増えるので2連打も合うと思います。
    :?: 00:15:040 - ~ D--d-kd-kd--k--dk-d-kd--?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745531 
    大がかりな変更案を出していますが、既存の00:54:940 - ~のパターンも参考にしています。
    どこを捨てるかという選択肢になりますが、前パートの流れを乗せたまま変化させるならこのようになると思います。
    音取が違うってのもわかるのですが、現状スネア・クラップの目立たない音とメロディを混ぜると前パートの目立った配置が混ぜられないので違和感がバリバリ残ります。
    よって目立たないクラップ・スネアを切っていいと感じました。

    :?: 00:18:640 - ~ D--d-kd-kd--d-kdk-k-dkd-? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745544
  4. 00:22:990 - 同じ理由で目立つピアノに合わせてmove to 1/2 left?
  5. 00:24:340 - and 00:25:240 - , same as 00:06:040 - suggestion。またKantanでも述べたようにメロディラインが一度止まってるので休息を兼ねてremove?
  6. 00:28:090 - add d? 音不足に感じる..
  7. 00:32:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 宵。
  8. 00:05:740 - add k? 後述のmod参照。
  9. 00:39:040 - change to k , 00:39:640 - add k? メロディ少し乗せで。
  10. 00:41:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 長いのが少しだけ気になります、とはいえ削りにくいので。。。00:44:440 (11,12,13) - change normalはどうですか?
  11. 00:48:940 - ここから1/1のddkkdと繋げ、00:50:440 - remove, 00:50:890 - move to 00:52:090 - , 00:53:590 - move to 00:52:990 - ?
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745722
    • *-1 48:940からの音の量が明らかに多いので繋ぎがほしい
      *-2明らかに長いので00:50:140 - で一度区切って、緩和
      *-300:50:890 - 1/2をスルーして、他に1/2を混ぜることでより音の粒が増えたことがハッキリします。
  12. 01:03:340 - ,01:04:540 - ,01:06:040 - , 01:06:190 - , 01:06:490 - ,01:09:640 - remove? より休息を...https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745730
  13. 01:20:140 (1,2,3) - Kantanでも配色変更案を出していましたが、kdk? スネア音も目立ちますし、雰囲気変わるのででkスタートのフローがよくfitすると思います。
  14. 01:22:540 - Kantanでも説明しましたが、切った方がいいと思います。
  15. 01:24:640 - 個人的なことですが、シンバルの余韻はすぐ分ちぎられてるのでfinishにしなくてもよいと思います。 


[Muzukashii]
Comment
  1. リズム難の箇所がシンプルでなく、また余裕をもった状態でプレイできない為難易度が跳ねあがっています。
  2. 00:07:840 - ~ バスドラ・伴奏音を確実に拾って曲の持ち味であるリズムをしっかり刻んでください。
  1. 00:03:040 - k? to make a consistent with 00:36:940 - ?
  2. 00:09:190 - add, 00:09:940 - remove, ,00:11:290 - add k ,00:12:790 - add d, 00:13:540 - remove? 伴奏音がものすごく中途半端
  3. 00:16:390 - add, 00:17:290 - add ,00:18:190 - add don? 伴奏音・バスドラ
  4. 00:18:940 - remove, to make a consistent with 00:15:340 - .
  5. 00:19:990 - add,00:21:340 - change to k(ピアノ高音)00:21:640 - change to 1/2 ddkkd?
  6. 00:24:340 - 長く詰まってマラソン状態になってるのでメロディラインが一旦とまったここで小休止の目的でremove? 若しくは1/2 right?(バスドラ)
  7. 00:25:990 - remove? 1/2接合finishが他にあまり見られないので。 追加で 00:26:290 - add k して D-kkdでもいいかもしれません。
  8. 00:30:640 - ,00:32:440 - 1/3のリズムを見やすくする為、また全体的に音の粒の種類が多くないので物量緩和でremove?
  9. 00:33:490 (4,5) - dkも合いそうな気がしました。
  10. 00:40:440 - 2連をremoveして、00:40:740 - add don? 00:05:740 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - のメロディラインに沿って
  11. 00:45:340 - ~リズムがややこしいのでもう少し区切らせてほしいですhttps://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745828
  12. 00:45:640 - ,00:45:940 - remove? スネア焦点 というよりは00:49:240 - のドラムのビルドアップを考慮すると切ってもいいと思います。
  13. 00:46:740 (195,196) - d?
  14. 00:47:340 (198,199,200,201) - リズムが謎... change to kk-dd----(1/3)?
  15. 00:49:240 - k? の方が愛想...
  16. 00:52:390 - removeして,00:52:690 - donはどうですか?
  17. 00:53:590 - 長くなるのでremoveしてみては...?00:54:790 - も同様.
  18. 00:56:290 - add, 00:56:590 - add k?
  19. 00:58:840 - remove, 00:59:890 - add d?
  20. 01:01:915 - 難度を考慮すると1/4は必要性が薄く感じます,remove?
  21. 01:03:940 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - change to... d--kd-k-k? or d-kd--k-k? 01:02:590 (2,3,4) - の流れを汲んだらそういった変化の方がよりしっくりきます、また些細なことですが物量緩和にも繋がってます。ここのパートはより物量を減らしていいと思います。
  22. 01:07:240 - 個人的なことですが削った方がメロディラインにも沿ってる、目立つ拍音も弱いので意図的に削った方が好きです。
  23. 01:07:840 - ,01:08:290 - remove? ...01:08:890 - にこそadd d?
  24. 01:12:940 (314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327) - change to ...D-k-dkd-kd-dk-kddkd? リズムがややこしくなってますのでより分かり易いリズムを提案します。
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9746035
  25. 01:17:890 - ..remove?
  26. 01:18:340 (11,12,13,14,15,16) - 1/3繋ぎがややこしいのでdddd--dかdddk--dといった形を強く推奨します。
  27. 01:19:240 - どういった意図のアクセントかイマイチわかりませんでした,remove finish?
  28. 01:19:740 - 非常に迷いますが、kkkkの1/3の4連でごまかしちゃってもいいかもしれません。
  29. 01:21:440 (7,9) - なくてもいいと思います。その後の1/4もあるので難度は十分ありましたし、
  30. 01:21:940 - kの方が愛想。
  31. 01:24:640 - , 01:35:440 - 個人的なことですが、シンバルの余韻はすぐ分ちぎられてるのでfinishにしなくてもよいと思います。
  32. 01:27:440 - , 01:27:940 - 1/3のつながりが中途半端でプレイ感がイマイチです、finishのみにしてシンプルにまとめることを強く推奨します。
[Oni]
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  1. 1/3+1/4の接合が必要な流れにも感じなかったのでここは削除してよいと思います
  2. 01:47:815 - 等、Verseの8分土台に関して気になったので言及しています。
  1. 00:06:640 - remove? calmでありながらメロディラインをフルでフォローしてるので削った方がむしろメリハリがつきそうです。
  2. 00:40:540 - 鮫。
  3. 00:08:890 - (move to 00:09:490 - ), 00:10:690 - ,remove?
    他の音の種類が少ないうちからの物量としてパーカッションがさして目立ってないので必要性が薄く感じます(TJBC版見たときもそうだったけど)、Oniなら削ってもいいのでは?
  4. 00:55:990 - (move to 00:55:240 - ), 00:57:790 - (move to 00:57:040 - ), 鮫、 00:58:840 -  add k ?
  5. 00:27:565 - 見栄えとしてもかなり浮いてるので削ってシンプルに見やすくした方がいいと思います。
  6. 01:18:265 - 鮫。
  7. 00:34:390 - ピアノ高いのでk?
  8. 00:41:940 - add k?
  9. 00:49:640 - remove...? 00:49:740 (28,29) - and change+add to..1/3 dkkkd?http://puu.sh/yCynK/c05496f8d1.jpg
  10. 00:52:390 - remove...? ドラム焦点なら...
  11. 01:03:790 - and 01:07:390 - remove? calmだし、少し多く感じますし、またバスドラ自体もあまり強く響かないのでremoveしてごまかすことで、後ろのピアノ変化(01:05:590 - )がより目立ちよくなると思います。
  12. 01:03:940 (8,9,10,11,12) - d-kkd(or kdd?)-k? メロディラインも気にした形の方が愛想
  13. 01:10:390 - move to 01:10:840 - ...? 01:03:040 (4,5,6,7) - のカッカッカッのリズムを気にしてほしいかなーと...
  14. 01:24:640 - , 01:35:440 - 個人的なことですが、シンバルの余韻はすぐ分ちぎられてるのでfinishにしなくてもよいと思います。
  15. 01:46:165 - シンバルカバーでaddk?
  16. 01:47:365 - move to 01:47:665 - ,01:47:815 - change to d? でddd-k-ddkdkkはどうですか?
個人的なことですが優勝譜面こそ、ありのままの状態でランクドしてほしいです。とはいえmodを集めるなとは言ってません、modは集まってほしいものです。
ですが、それ以外の難易度は優勝してるわけではないので そちらをより重点的に、次回から低難易度もmodder募ってください。
全てが解決したら声をかけてください、長いこと待たせてしまってスミマセンでした :|

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[Kantan]
01:21:040 - ~01:21:640 - ノーツが流石に欲しいです 1か2ノーツ程追加してください。

[Muzukashii]
00:14:290 - or00:14:590 - にadd、00:10:090 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - と00:11:890 (44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51) - よりノーツは最低でも同じ量はほしいです。

00:40:540 - 前回も言ってますが、物量の少ないパートと比べると少し長いです、メロディ意識で切っていいと思います

01:31:690 - ここよりも01:29:890 - ここを繋げた方がしっくりくると思います、finishの手前に繋ぐと少し見栄えもですが フレーズの区切りも現状最適かどうか微妙..

01:14:590 - 単純な好みの話ですが1/2leftの方が個人的により愛想です
yassu-
JUDYDANNY
[Kantan]
Comment
  1. 全体的に疎の部分がなさすぎて物量が多すぎます。ゆとりをもたせるべき個所はより持たせた方がいいと思います。
    :!: 00:15:040 - ~前パートより音の種類が増えているのに対し物量が少ないです、要修正。
  1. 00:06:940 - k? 高音ピアノフォローが綺麗に拾えると思います
  2. 00:08:290 - , 00:10:090 - , 00:11:890 - , 00:13:690 - remove, 00:12:340 - d?
    - 00:07:840 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ~と00:15:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ~とで物量のバランスが気になります、前者の物量を叩いたのちに15:040の物量は、メロディラインが加わっているのに落差が見られます。
  3. 00:16:390 - , 00:19:990 - add d? 理由は前述。
  4. 00:24:940 - バスドラは鳴っていますがメロディラインを考慮すると削ってもよいと思います。
  5. 00:55:390 - , 00:57:190 - , 00:58:990 - same, remove?
  6. 01:04:540 - , 01:06:040 - , 強くremove推奨。KantanのCalmパートにしてはゆったりとした流れとしてもう少し3/1のリズムを続かせておきたいところです
  7. 01:18:040 - , 01:20:140 - removeして01:20:740 - add kを代替案としてはどうでしょうか、リズムがややこしいので
  8. 01:16:540 - ~ 01:22:690 - において、TJBCの譜面評価から気になってわざわざゲーム動画見て疑問でしたが、そもそも公式である拍設定のワルツ自体が怪しく、リズムの設定がいやらしいです。
     ただ、Kantanとしてはもう少し簡略化できるはずです。現状はリズムがややこしすぎて難易度が跳ねあがりすぎです。
     8分の使用を極力さけるように、例えばこのようにしてみてはどうでしょうかhttp://puu.sh/yACz1/a31372ab33.jpg
     特に01:22:240 - 強くremove推奨、その後の繋ぎの流れをぶった切る変化をハッキリさせるためにもメリハリが欲しいです。
  9. 01:24:640 - 個人的なことですが、シンバルの余韻はすぐ分ちぎられてるのでfinishにしなくてもよいと思います。 
  10. 01:31:840 - D? (or01:31:840 (1,2) - D-K?) 3/1拍子でのd-d-k-dの流れが01:28:240 - ~で作られているので音の変化が強くないので同様にdフロー開始でいいと思います。
  11. 01:41:290 - , 01:44:890 - add? 全体量を比較すると物量が不足してるように感じます。
  12. 01:45:340 - change normal?
  13. 01:40:840 - change normal, 01:46:240 - add finish? 盛り上がり度を考えたらこちらの方が幾分fitすると思います、ただspreadを考慮するならfinish自体なくてもいいという考え方もできます。どちらも合うと思うのでお任せします。
[Futsuu]
Comment


  • :!: 00:15:040 - ~前パートは伴奏音、バスドラ音に対して沿っているのに対し、こちらは バスドラ・伴奏音が中途半端、かといってスネア・メロディライン拾いも中途半端なリズムです。要修正。
  1. 00:06:040 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - 盛り上がるパートでもないのと、物量自体が次のパートの00:07:840 - より上であること。よって1/1は無理して続けなくてよいと思います。00:06:340 (14,17) - remove?
    1. 00:06:640 (14,15) - またKantanでも述べたようにピアノ拾いでdkがよいと思います。
  2. 00:09:340 - , 00:11:140 - ,00:12:640 (1,3) - remove? Futsuuの音の粒が少ないパートにしてはやけにリズムがややこしいです。
  3. 00:14:440 - only, remove? こちらは音の粒が増えるので2連打も合うと思います。
    :?: 00:15:040 - ~ D--d-kd-kd--k--dk-d-kd--?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745531 
    大がかりな変更案を出していますが、既存の00:54:940 - ~のパターンも参考にしています。
    どこを捨てるかという選択肢になりますが、前パートの流れを乗せたまま変化させるならこのようになると思います。
    音取が違うってのもわかるのですが、現状スネア・クラップの目立たない音とメロディを混ぜると前パートの目立った配置が混ぜられないので違和感がバリバリ残ります。
    よって目立たないクラップ・スネアを切っていいと感じました。

    :?: 00:18:640 - ~ D--d-kd-kd--d-kdk-k-dkd-? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745544
  4. 00:22:990 - 同じ理由で目立つピアノに合わせてmove to 1/2 left?
  5. 00:24:340 - and 00:25:240 - , same as 00:06:040 - suggestion。またKantanでも述べたようにメロディラインが一度止まってるので休息を兼ねてremove?
  6. 00:28:090 - add d? 音不足に感じる..
  7. 00:32:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 宵。
  8. 00:05:740 - add k? 後述のmod参照。
  9. 00:39:040 - change to k , 00:39:640 - add k? メロディ少し乗せで。
  10. 00:41:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 長いのが少しだけ気になります、とはいえ削りにくいので。。。00:44:440 (11,12,13) - change normalはどうですか?
  11. 00:48:940 - ここから1/1のddkkdと繋げ、00:50:440 - remove, 00:50:890 - move to 00:52:090 - , 00:53:590 - move to 00:52:990 - ?
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745722
    • *-1 48:940からの音の量が明らかに多いので繋ぎがほしい
      *-2明らかに長いので00:50:140 - で一度区切って、緩和
      *-300:50:890 - 1/2をスルーして、他に1/2を混ぜることでより音の粒が増えたことがハッキリします。
  12. 01:03:340 - ,01:04:540 - ,01:06:040 - , 01:06:190 - , 01:06:490 - ,01:09:640 - remove? より休息を...https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9745730
  13. 01:20:140 (1,2,3) - Kantanでも配色変更案を出していましたが、kdk? スネア音も目立ちますし、雰囲気変わるのででkスタートのフローがよくfitすると思います。
  14. 01:22:540 - Kantanでも説明しましたが、切った方がいいと思います。
  15. 01:24:640 - 個人的なことですが、シンバルの余韻はすぐ分ちぎられてるのでfinishにしなくてもよいと思います。 

だいたいfixed
個人的な変更も入っているので確認お願いします><

kantan
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Title:Igomoyos=Omul no Theme ni yoru Buyobuyo Sketch no Kokoromi
TitleUnicode:イゴモヨス=オムルのテーマによるブヨブヨ・スケッチの試み
Artist:Nippon Gakuon Noise Kyoukai
ArtistUnicode:日本楽音ノイズ協会
Creator:uone
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Source:SOUND VOLTEX II -infinite infection-
Tags:Soyomogi Lumo Tokyo Θinema Paradiso コードなき時代の楽団 nihon Independent Research Original Song Contest 夏だ!休みだ!自由研究オリジナル楽曲コンテスト yassu- komasy
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