XVoIR wrote:

pre-qualification mod
04:01:006 (1,1) - spacing tutaj jest dosyć brzydki ma być readable xd
01:45:055 (1,2,3,4,5) - zrób idealne odbicie lustrzane oke
02:09:933 (1) - x:392 y:193 high effort :^)
02:24:567 (2,3) - jak na moje to bym wyrównał spacing nieee jest zajebiście
02:49:738 (3,4,5) - tutaj tak samo ok tutaj wyrównane
02:57:348 (3) - lekko w prawo daj końcowy tick, coby była równa linia oke
03:32:103 (1,2) - ze dwa razy ctrl + strzałka w dół i m a f r a i d t o d o i t
03:38:616 (1,2,1,2) - IMO za ostry kąt, ale to moja opinia, gdybym ja to mapował to bym lekko wygładził zrobiłbym tak (moje na niebiesko) ogólnie zremapiłem to wszystko teraz jest bardziej geometrycznie xD

owo

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Ok rechecked, Fixed a big amount of NC's and some other stuff.

Log

16:59 deadpon3: hey
17:00 DeRandom Otaku: hi hi
17:00 deadpon3: have some time?
17:00 deadpon3: or am I too early
17:00 DeRandom Otaku: i can recheck in 20 minutes
17:01 deadpon3: alright I'll stay online then
17:01 DeRandom Otaku: ye just poke me in 20-30 minutes cuz i m p sure i will forget lol
17:01 deadpon3: k owo
17:27 *deadpon3 pokes
17:30 DeRandom Otaku: a
17:30 DeRandom Otaku: let me re dl it quick just in case xd
17:30 deadpon3: yeah the mp3 is different that's a good idea xd
17:31 DeRandom Otaku: max bg res is 1920x1200 btw
17:31 DeRandom Otaku: yours is much bigger than that
17:32 deadpon3: wait I think I changed it already, did I not upload it or what :o
17:32 deadpon3: it should be on my hard drive
17:32 deadpon3: sec
17:33 DeRandom Otaku: it was fine when i modded it yesterday lol
17:33 DeRandom Otaku: now i redl'd it and its different
17:34 deadpon3: oh I know why
17:34 deadpon3: XVoIR sent me mapset with different offset
17:34 deadpon3: so I won't need to fix it myself xd
17:34 deadpon3: probably had old bg
17:34 deadpon3: before I fixed it
17:35 DeRandom Otaku: can u fix this and update just to make sure
17:36 deadpon3: yes give me a second pls
17:37 deadpon3: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9406184 yo it looks weird
17:37 deadpon3: xD
17:37 DeRandom Otaku: wheres the bg that i saw yesterday lol
17:37 deadpon3: looking for it
17:38 deadpon3: ok got it
17:39 deadpon3: uploading
17:39 deadpon3: it's good now
17:41 DeRandom Otaku: alright guess we can move on
17:42 deadpon3: yep
17:43 DeRandom Otaku: 00:33:350 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:34:521 (2,3,4,5,6) - 
17:43 DeRandom Otaku: They are still different lol
17:43 DeRandom Otaku: just a tiny bit
17:44 DeRandom Otaku: you can just copy paste the first one and paste it on the second spot
17:44 deadpon3: hmm I wouldn't even notice they're different honestly
17:44 deadpon3: but okay gonna copy and check hs
17:45 DeRandom Otaku: ye it doesnt hurt to fix when the fix is easily do able 
17:45 deadpon3: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9406244
17:46 DeRandom Otaku: 03:21:204 (2,1,5,6,7) - what i meant by messy is that you suddenly started to make your patterns with silly overlaps that are easily noticeable
17:46 DeRandom Otaku: like 03:21:204 (2,1,6) - and its kinda messy 
17:47 deadpon3: 03:21:789 (5,7) - ah this overlap, well imo it's deeply overlapped and looks nice, though the forth 'n' back really emphasizes the song nicely :3
17:47 deadpon3: it's pretty much same as 03:18:570 (2,1,2,1) - but closer to each other
17:47 DeRandom Otaku: i wouldnt call this nice lol
17:48 DeRandom Otaku: well w/e it doesnt much anyway
17:49 DeRandom Otaku: 00:18:131 (2) - the finish is p loud tho
17:49 deadpon3: and do you agree with me about 03:15:789 (1,2) - ?
17:49 DeRandom Otaku: could do whistle instead
17:49 DeRandom Otaku: i will get to that soon
17:49 deadpon3: could be whistle but it's really massive kick
17:49 deadpon3: why not finish?
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: e wait
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: nvm lol
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: i am deaf sometime
17:50 deadpon3: xd
17:52 deadpon3: also can I put username of a friend that gave me the mp3 file into tags?
17:52 DeRandom Otaku: its totally unnecessar
17:52 DeRandom Otaku: y
17:52 deadpon3: ok :/
17:52 DeRandom Otaku: 01:19:594 - the song pitch is continuously decreasin so it would be cooler to decrease hs volume as the song goes on
17:52 DeRandom Otaku: until 01:24:131 - 
17:53 DeRandom Otaku: also u can have higher Hs volume than 69% because the song is louder 
17:53 deadpon3: from 69% to 80% maybe?
17:53 deadpon3: cause 81 is too much imo
17:54 DeRandom Otaku: what
17:54 DeRandom Otaku: 01:19:594 - for this, i actually am talking about decreasing volume not increasin lol
17:54 deadpon3: oh shit I missread that
17:54 deadpon3: sry
17:54 deadpon3: >.<
17:56 DeRandom Otaku: 02:43:887 - decrease volume here 
17:56 DeRandom Otaku: you have the same volume throughout the whole set lol
17:56 DeRandom Otaku: you can adjust it from part to part yourself
17:57 deadpon3: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/wByzjKn.png
17:57 DeRandom Otaku: cool
17:58 deadpon3: changed to 50%
17:58 DeRandom Otaku: 02:46:814 (2,3) - this rhythm sounds kinda random for some reason lol The vocals land on 02:47:106 - 02:47:253 - so can just do this 
17:58 DeRandom Otaku: http://puu.sh/y8q9u/27938d3812.jpg
17:58 DeRandom Otaku: or u can just silence the end of 02:46:814 (2) - 
17:59 DeRandom Otaku: 03:02:911 (1) - you can remove this nc
18:00 DeRandom Otaku: 03:05:838 (1) - and this
18:00 deadpon3: yeah I'll silence the slider end, don't want a regular circle
18:00 deadpon3: and 03:09:497 (1) - this too
18:00 DeRandom Otaku: ye that
18:01 DeRandom Otaku: 03:11:399 (4,5,6,7) - the bassline faints, almost totally so the spacing between 03:11:399 (4,5) - feels too high
18:01 deadpon3: I wanted every 1/8 repeater to have nc to be readable more, turned out to be bad idea xd
18:01 deadpon3: hmm I'd need to break the triange pattern here
18:02 DeRandom Otaku: emphasiz > traingle
18:02 deadpon3: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/AQViV7M.png
18:02 DeRandom Otaku: 03:13:082 (1) - 03:14:033 (1) - 03:14:033 (1) - 03:15:424 (1) - 03:18:058 (1) - NCsssss
18:03 DeRandom Otaku: Ye thats cool
18:03 DeRandom Otaku: 03:14:765 (1) - NC thing
18:04 DeRandom Otaku: 03:24:790 (1) - aa this could totally be read as 1/2 because of spacing between 03:24:570 (6,1) - these
18:04 DeRandom Otaku: 03:24:790 (1) - remove the nc would make it more easier to read
18:05 deadpon3: 03:25:741 (1) - can I keep this one? it's a really hard read part without nc
18:05 DeRandom Otaku: ye that ones fine thats why i didnt point it lol
18:06 DeRandom Otaku: 03:52:375 (1,1) - The slider heads really need some HS for the kicks
18:06 DeRandom Otaku: 03:57:643 (1,1,1) - Also remove that nc spam
18:07 deadpon3: added whistle there
18:07 DeRandom Otaku: 04:01:155 (1) - 04:02:180 (1) - 04:04:521 (1) - 04:05:838 (1) - 04:06:863 (1) - 04:08:033 (1) - 04:09:350 (1,1) - 04:11:692 (1) - 04:12:131 (1) - 04:12:570 (1) - 
18:07 DeRandom Otaku: You know what to do
18:08 deadpon3: ;w; ye
18:08 DeRandom Otaku: 04:17:838 (1) - 04:19:887 (1) - 04:21:058 (1) - 04:24:424 (1) - 04:29:253 (1,1) - 04:30:424 (1,1) - same
18:09 DeRandom Otaku: 05:04:375 - And ye same in the whole kiai here
18:10 DeRandom Otaku: 05:23:399 (3) - This could be 2 circles because the sound on slider end is really emphasized in the song too
18:11 deadpon3: sec I'm thinking about the nc's in the last kiai
18:11 deadpon3: xd
18:11 DeRandom Otaku: tell me if u cant figure it out]\
18:11 deadpon3: should it be 2/1?
18:11 deadpon3: like 05:04:960 (4) -
18:11 deadpon3: and then 05:05:545 (2) -
18:12 DeRandom Otaku: what do u mean
18:12 deadpon3: I mean if the nc's should be on 2/1 white beats
18:12 deadpon3: and remove every others
18:12 deadpon3: each 2 white tick u know what I mean
18:14 deadpon3: ok I'm just gonna make NC on every big 1/1
18:14 DeRandom Otaku: in that case
18:14 DeRandom Otaku: do it through the whole difficulty
18:15 deadpon3: I don't think that would work, too long combos
18:15 deadpon3: okay tell me how to locate them here pls
18:17 DeRandom Otaku: 05:05:106 (1) - 05:04:814 (1) - 05:06:277 (1,1) - 05:07:155 (1) - 05:07:448 (1) - 05:08:033 (1) - 05:09:204 (1,1) - 05:09:789 (1) - 05:10:960 (1) - 05:11:253 (1) - 05:12:131 (1) - 05:12:424 (1) - 05:12:716 (1) - 05:13:887 (1) - 
18:18 deadpon3: that's where nc has to be, not which to remove right? just to make it clear xd
18:18 DeRandom Otaku: 05:16:228 (1) - 05:18:058 (1) - 05:20:399 (1) - 05:20:911 (1) - 05:21:204 (1) - 
18:18 DeRandom Otaku: Remove from these
18:21 deadpon3: ok done, though I broke some stuff by the way here, but you'll tell me if it's good after I'll submit right
18:22 DeRandom Otaku:  ya
18:22 DeRandom Otaku: 05:23:399 (3) - did u change this to circles
18:22 deadpon3: 2 triples I guess?
18:22 DeRandom Otaku: exactly
18:23 DeRandom Otaku: 05:32:326 (1) - 05:32:911 (1) - 05:37:082 (1) - d
18:23 deadpon3: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/5JmC2nT.png good or too sharp?
18:24 DeRandom Otaku: good
18:24 deadpon3: done
18:24 DeRandom Otaku: update
18:25 DeRandom Otaku: 05:39:058 (1) - remove this nc before that
18:25 deadpon3: ok here comes update
18:26 deadpon3: done, check the last kiai for nc's especially pls, I know I screwed it up
18:26 deadpon3: :D
18:29 DeRandom Otaku: 02:08:911 (2,3) - the spacing here shouldnt be too big lol
18:29 DeRandom Otaku: atleast not bigger than the spacing between 02:08:765 (1,2) - 
18:30 deadpon3: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9406534
18:30 deadpon3: thought
18:30 deadpon3: thoughts*
18:30 DeRandom Otaku: fine
18:30 DeRandom Otaku: 02:56:765 (1) - remove this nc
18:31 deadpon3: ok
18:32 DeRandom Otaku: 04:20:911 (1,2) - could make them overlap?
18:32 DeRandom Otaku: because the gap between them is only 1/8
18:32 DeRandom Otaku: 04:24:424 (4,1) - sam
18:32 DeRandom Otaku: e
18:33 deadpon3: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/r7Emyvj.png should be enough
18:33 DeRandom Otaku: 05:21:497 (1) - ye nc remove thing
18:33 deadpon3: done same with 04:19:741 (1,2) -
18:33 DeRandom Otaku: Uh a bit move overlap would be much niver
18:33 DeRandom Otaku: nicer*
18:34 DeRandom Otaku: 05:24:277 (1) - remove nc
18:34 deadpon3: 04:24:424 (4,1) - I think this is better not overlapped because of the slider
18:34 deadpon3: in a case of circle it's hard to single tap with 1/8 gap
18:34 deadpon3: but slider is fine imo
18:34 DeRandom Otaku: nah overlap would be coolver
18:34 DeRandom Otaku: but w/e
18:34 DeRandom Otaku: ye for cirlce part its important
18:34 DeRandom Otaku: u can leavethe slider part as it is
18:35 DeRandom Otaku: 05:49:009 (1) - remove nc
18:37 deadpon3: so the kiai is fine?
18:38 DeRandom Otaku: looks like it
18:38 deadpon3: nice
18:38 DeRandom Otaku: 06:09:570 - btw i would like to see this clickable instead of 06:09:497 - 
18:38 DeRandom Otaku: because the song emphasizes that sound
18:41 deadpon3: made 06:09:350 (4,5,6,7,8) - that's a whole stream now :^)
18:42 DeRandom Otaku: alright update again
18:42 deadpon3: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/GpZy87x.jpg
18:43 deadpon3: done

Bubbled.

Lenfried- wrote:

hi im really happy to see an odax map going for ranked for std tho you might want to add DANCE CORPS to tags when you get your quali check

good luck~

deadpon3 wrote:

Lenfried- wrote:

hi im really happy to see an odax map going for ranked for std tho you might want to add DANCE CORPS to tags when you get your quali check

good luck~

I wanna add beef stew to tags

Unpredictable wrote:

actually quite happy you mapped a song from odax, finally get to see artists from dance corps on osu. wish it was for mania though

Hydria wrote:

Unpredictable wrote:

actually quite happy you mapped a song from odax, finally get to see artists from dance corps on osu. wish it was for mania though

📝
#stealingthunder

Hydria wrote:

Unpredictable wrote:

actually quite happy you mapped a song from odax, finally get to see artists from dance corps on osu. wish it was for mania though

📝
#stealingthunder

somebody teach me mapping mania fellas

Unpredictable wrote:

somebody teach me mapping mania fellas

ok first you need to get song from sound voltex

then you just make it spammy

and then done. that's the ranked section for ya

-Mo- wrote:

Snapping issues:
== 00:36:863 (2) - Should end on the blue tick. fixed
== 04:46:539 (3) - Snapped to 1/16 for some reason. fixed

Other stuff:
- 00:59:692 (1) - This is misleading since it looks exactly the same as the 1/1 slider from 00:58:521 (1) - (the slider tick is hidden in game because it overlaps with the tail). I would've mapped this by shortening this to 1/2 so as to emphasise the silence from the vocals, and then place a circle on 01:00:131 like all of the other similar drum sounds in this diff. Remapped this part, the slider is now 1/2 with volume set to 40% on it's end, also it's ctrl+g'd so it flows nice with circle stacked on 01:00:277 (3) - aaand also done the same on 04:58:521 (1,2) -
- 02:35:692 (3) - I'd move the NC to start here instead so that it's a bit easier to read the timing (02:34:521 (1,2) is 1/2 apart, seperated by a 1/1 gap, then 02:35:692 (3,1,2) is 1/2 apart). done

- Some of the NCing for the burst sections after the first kiai feels kind of inconsistent, some parts you're using long combos and other times they're short. I'll try to make suggestions from what seems to me fits with the NC pattern you were going for.
- 02:26:765 (5) - +NC
- 02:29:106 (5) - +NC
- 03:02:033 (3) - +NC
- 03:24:790 (7) - +NC
- 03:32:106 (1) - -NC
- 03:33:497 (1) - -NC no reason for these single circle combos imo
- 03:42:863 (1) - -NC
(then again I just checked you went through some NC stuff with DRO so idk how much this conflicts with that) Fixed all mentioned above,
also I've modified some NC's while the map was bubbled and now it's submitted, should be way better but I'll look for some more single NC notes

- 03:08:619 (2) - This seems to be following the same sounds as 03:08:326 (2,1) but one has a circle under it and the other doesn't. Up to you I guess. Big white tick, I think that the sound is important enough to be clickable, don't wanna spam 1/8 without main rhythm fundamentals
- 03:53:546 (1) - Similar to before, I think keeping this to 1/1 is better for emphasising the silence in the song. I wanted a really slow slider here exactly for the silence's emphasize, it looks cool and imo doesn't mislead to any shitmisses, testplayed by a lot of people, they didn't say a bad word about his concept :3
- 03:54:424 (2,1) - 03:55:594 (2,1) - These might as well be arranged close to each other so that the rhythm is easier to read through spacing. It doesn't feel like this sort of patterning is used beforehand, and reading approach circles isn't reasonable since your attention is moved away from the next combo due to how 2 is placed near the edge. They're triangles now, nerfed enough :p

- 04:26:911 (1) - Single circle NC thing. removed nc
- 04:29:399 (3) - +NC somewhere around here. done
- 04:58:521 (1) - Misleading slider thing from before. yup fixed

- 05:04:375 - This kiai section (and a little after it) feels more underwhelming compared to your others, especially given that this is leading up to the map finale. I expected a lot more active 1/4 rhythms, but you ended up replacing quite a few of them with 1/4 and 1/4 reversing sliders instead. Stuff like 05:14:911 (1,2,3) would feel a lot better as a stream given how the rest of this map went. I'd recommend just buffing this final section a bit in general by doing this. Personally I like the copy paste idea on this kiai, the point was to make the triples similiar to each other as the beat stays the same, also the vocals repeat the very same "lalala" for the whole time. Each of the triple is supposed to give the player feel of hitting separated patterns without smooth flow, 05:05:399 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - has a smooth flow because of the drums continuity. It is supposed to repeat untill the song changes into more difficult thing. The first part is supposed to be simple, repetitive just to grow harder in the second one. Not changing it :3

DRO can rebubble once the snapping issues are addressed. Good luck.

1. 03:01:448 (5,1) - Swap NC's because 03:01:448 (5,6,1,2) - They should all be in same combo
2. 00:28:667 (1) - 00:29:838 (1) - Don't need NC's on these 00:31:009 (3) - 00:32:180 (3) - Didn't have any
3. 03:08:326 (2,1,2) - Kinda agree with mo here, circle at 03:08:765 - would be better because the sounds on 03:08:765 - 03:08:472 - are similar
4. 03:24:790 (1,2,3,4) - 03:24:570 (6) - should be parts of same combo since the stream sounds start on 03:24:716 -
5. 03:53:838 - Add a timing point to silence that slider tick
6. 05:20:399 (3) - Two circles just like 05:08:692 (6,7) - because same thing is going on in song

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

1. 03:01:448 (5,1) - Swap NC's because 03:01:448 (5,6,1,2) - They should all be in same combo done
2. 00:28:667 (1) - 00:29:838 (1) - Don't need NC's on these 00:31:009 (3) - 00:32:180 (3) - Didn't have any done
3. 03:08:326 (2,1,2) - Kinda agree with mo here, circle at 03:08:765 - would be better because the sounds on 03:08:765 - 03:08:472 - are similar oki
4. 03:24:790 (1,2,3,4) - 03:24:570 (6) - should be parts of same combo since the stream sounds start on 03:24:716 - alright
5. 03:53:838 - Add a timing point to silence that slider tick done
6. 05:20:399 (3) - Two circles just like 05:08:692 (6,7) - because same thing is going on in song aand done

Preview point was cooler before lol

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Lets give it another shot

Sinnoh wrote:

can you add a silent sliderslide

Guideline:
Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.

03:08:326 (2,3) - 1/8 buzz slider gaps at 205 bpm is a bit iffy, should nerf them so they're all with two repeats or four repeats.
There's a lot of 1/8 gaps in the map, can you remove them since there's too many to count fixed

01:32:911 (2) - 01:48:570 (4) - Sounds like a triple here okay now there's 3 triples lol
03:53:546 (1) - Sound stops on the white tick, slider should too k
05:13:302 (1,2,3) - maybe change this for consistency, since it's the only triangle triple in the map No it has to be special, changes whole kiai mapstyle

will need to rebub if the slider thing is applied

Sinnoh wrote:

When life gives you lemons you make beef stew

XVoIR wrote:

finally some GOOD song is getting close to ranked

XVoIR wrote:

o kurw

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

ok

Mishima Yurara wrote:

buffer sliders

Mishima Yurara wrote:

ohNvm they alrdy r

Sinnoh wrote:

Guideline:
Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.

03:08:326 (2,3) - 1/8 buzz slider gaps at 205 bpm is a bit iffy, should nerf them so they're all with two repeats or four repeats.
There's a lot of 1/8 gaps in the map, can you remove them since there's too many to count

deetz wrote:

one of your BNs told you to change these, why did you say "fixed" if you didn't?