A maximum of three slider velocities should be used (including 1x). For example, you could have a single map using 0.6x, 0.8x, and 1x; or 0.75x, 1x, and 1.5x; etc. If more than three slider velocities are used, then they should make sense and be intuitive. If slider velocity changes are able to be merged (e.g. close values like 0.8x and 0.7x) while still flowing/working correctly, then they should be.

Blue Dragon wrote:

If there is something wrong with different sliderspeeds being abused, please make "Disable Distance Snap" unrankable too because too many people use jumps and abuse it.

Shiirn wrote:

the rule isn't about abusing silderspeeds at all

Soaprman wrote:

Focusing on how many speeds are used rather than how they are used does nothing to make a map better. This guideline should be deleted entirely.

Also, seconding Blue Dragon's entire post.

Slider velocity changes should fit the music. If the music feels significantly slower or faster, but the BPM doesn't actually change, then it's recommended to use a slider velocity change to reflect this change in the music. It is also not recommended to use slider speed changes as "traps", or just because you feel like it; this is not fun, and will secretly make many people want to kill you in your sleep.

Slider velocity changes should fit the music. If the music feels significantly slower or faster, but the BPM doesn't actually change, then it's recommended to use a slider velocity change to reflect this change in the music. You should avoid over-representing the change in the feel of the music because of using multipliers that are too high or too low (x2 or x0.5). As well, a maximum of three slider velocities should be used in most cases, as situations in which you use more than that would most likely involve actual BPM changes.

Shiirn wrote:

Slider velocity changes should fit the music. If the music feels significantly slower or faster, but the BPM doesn't actually change, then it's recommended to use a slider velocity change to reflect this change in the music. You should avoid over-representing the change in the feel of the music because of using multipliers that are too high or too low (x2 or x0.5). As well, a maximum of three slider velocities should be used in most cases, as situations in which you use more than that would most likely involve actual BPM changes.

Feel free to make it more concise, but in all reality that's probably as close as we're going to get to something that is functionally covering most arguments.

Ekaru wrote:

About the only real situations where more than 3 make sense shouldn't even be attempted by newer mappers anyways, and since it's a guideline, experienced mappers can still use as many changes as they wish. This also gives newbie mappers good advice at the same time that can add more variety to their maps without destroying them by accident. This is pretty close to perfect IMO.

Shiirn wrote:

This is already functionally a guideline rather than a rule. What the last line is attempting to state is that if you have 0.75 and 0.8, say, in two entirely separate sections of the map, to switch one to the other since it's needlessly strange to have a 0.05x difference in slider velocity.

Rena-chan wrote:

(2) is made with a 1,20x section instead of 1,25x to make the sliderend land exactly on (4). Without this, it would be slightly off and look ugly.

Shiirn wrote:

Additionally, can't you just re-make (2) so that it still uses 1.2? It's not difficult to make sliders perfect as far as osu!pixels go...

Larto wrote:

I'm still completely against even having this guideline. Slider velocities can be used terribly even if you only have three different velocities. The amount of slider velocities has nothing in common with how well used they are. You could make a similar guideline about the volume settings per section, and it would make similarily litle sense.

Edit: And how much does it actually matter if you have 0.7x and 0.8x or if you have just 0.75x? Why is this important?

Shulin wrote:

Agree with this, you could use 1 slider velocity terribly. I think the guideline would be better if it suggested all slider velocity changes should be intuitive rather than focusing on the number used.

Slider velocity changes should fit the music. If the music feels significantly slower or faster, but the BPM doesn't actually change, then it's recommended to use a slider velocity change to reflect this change in the music. You should avoid over-representing the change in the feel of the music because of using multipliers that are too high or too low (x2 or x0.5). As well, a maximum of three slider velocities should be used in most cases, as situations in which you use more than that would most likely involve actual BPM changes.