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Lincolm
@Mod : May you please put this in your (most first) post?
Players ISO :
1. johnmedina999
2. Zexion
3. Dawnsday
4. Foxtrot
5. Hika
6. [ - Zekks - ]
7. Lincolm
8. abraker
9. rEdo

Mod ISO :
beeboy123
abraker

Lincolm wrote:

@abraker :
Why did you not join RVS? What do you think about me?
I am considering to vote for myself if I cannot come up with any conclusions in the next couple days because fuck RVS

You remind me of Sakura (who turned out to be town) from the previous game in some aspects. You seem to take the initiative, and I learned that if someone is pushing opinions or pulling strings here and there, it doesn't imply mafia.
Zexion
Too soon to be wallin'. Too much newbhunting and too little scumhunting.

Lincolm wrote:

That's logical answer. And no, I just ask if you get red or green colour, hoping you to answer red somehow.

Well-written flavour, though.
Lincolm plz, even the role PM's are up.

johnmedina999 wrote:

I purposely did not give out any information because there was no real reason to. If someone asks for your credit card info, would you give it to them on the spot? I thought so. Also, I voted for him because RVS: there was no one to really vote for, no evidence to analyze yet, but the second he started fishing for an easy noob kill, it seems suspicious to me, and I voted.

Foxtrot, you confuse me. Hopping onto the first bandwagon that seemed plausible would be a scum thing to do (redo and Hika bandwagons are based on nothing), but I see you are starting to hop off it with your post, and going more neutral. My instincts tell me this is not a scum move, but there is also the possibility of you being Mafia and Lincolm being your partner: as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.

I still hold my vote against Lincolm, though, because even if going after fresh meat is a plausible thing to do, trying to create a bandwagon is scummy to me.
It's way too soon to be assuming bandwagons mean something. I've seen games when players get to L-1 and it doesn't mean anything in particular. Also why do you assume rEdo and Hika wagons are "based on nothing"? Have you ever asked the reasons why is that?
johnmedina999
Well, I guess I meant nothing in this game. The first vote was for redo by Hika with no reasoning or previous posts, and you voted for Hika because she "didn't like my bastard game", which (to me) is not based on anything. Sure, cross-game interactions are valuable, but the reasoning isn't there. Now that you're here, may I ask if you have a different reason for voting for Hika?
Topic Starter
beeboy123
Day 1, VC 1

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch!

Hika (3) - Zexion, Lincolm
Lincolm (1) - Foxtrot, johnmedina999
rEdo (2) - Hika, [ - Zekks - ]
[ - Zekks - ] (1) - rEdo
Not Voting (2) - Dawnsday, abraker

Mod Notes -

Deadline: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/g ... nt=cursive
Hika
L0L
Dawns
Hello! Sorry for the delay. Catching up on everything now and will do the do
Hika
I read this when I get on my laptop! Eating dinner rn
Dawns
A Brief History of this mafia game thus far, authored by me.
https://image.prntscr.com/image/-UQ7l4aYRG6knsiOOuxHTA.png

Judging that I didn't skip a post/some super relevant info I'm in the neutral party currently: Lincolm attempted a..? Thing? and John responded with the choice to abstain from any info rather than straight up claiming his PM text was green.

John also seems to be willing to progress other lines of reading (see; his most recent post) whereas Lincolm has stuck to explaining his play. Nothing solid for me atm

My entire opinion on the entire "PM color" thing is that no matter what John responded (even red?), it couldn't be taken at face value ever. He responds green? Duh he's scum, or town. Leaving you with nothing. He responds with nor green nor red? Great, he's given you nothing. He responds red? He can simply claim he was trying to see how far you'd push him as a newb and how devoted you'd be to taking such info at face value. (Though I'm not sure I'd even consider this a possbility in hindsight, just pointing out that even in the most extreme of responses it could be played off.) therefore I think the entire concept of asking for his PM color was flawed in response.

Again, siding with neither of you on this one.

Foxtrot did the same amount of nosing around on the subject as I did so, neutral on her.
Dawns
Zexion

johnmedina999 wrote:

Well, I guess I meant nothing in this game. The first vote was for redo by Hika with no reasoning or previous posts, and you voted for Hika because she "didn't like my bastard game", which (to me) is not based on anything. Sure, cross-game interactions are valuable, but the reasoning isn't there. Now that you're here, may I ask if you have a different reason for voting for Hika?
My vote may have been RVS, but that doesn't mean I keep it for the same reason.

I missed Dawnsday image-posts.

This is going to be a fun game.
Zexion

Dawnsday wrote:

My entire opinion on the entire "PM color" thing is that no matter what John responded (even red?), it couldn't be taken at face value ever. He responds green? Duh he's scum, or town. Leaving you with nothing. He responds with nor green nor red? Great, he's given you nothing. He responds red? He can simply claim he was trying to see how far you'd push him as a newb and how devoted you'd be to taking such info at face value. (Though I'm not sure I'd even consider this a possbility in hindsight, just pointing out that even in the most extreme of responses it could be played off.) therefore I think the entire concept of asking for his PM color was flawed in response.
I think you're just overanalyzing a bad newb-test Lincolm did.
Foxtrot
interesting that you mention a connection between Lincolm and Zekks, Dawnsday

Zekks recently wrote this

Zekks wrote:

idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
and I asked her to clarify on this, but she hasn't told me anything yet. I know, I might be looking too hard for clues, but that is such an odd thing to say
Dawns

Zexion wrote:

Dawnsday wrote:

My entire opinion on the entire "PM color" thing is that no matter what John responded (even red?), it couldn't be taken at face value ever. He responds green? Duh he's scum, or town. Leaving you with nothing. He responds with nor green nor red? Great, he's given you nothing. He responds red? He can simply claim he was trying to see how far you'd push him as a newb and how devoted you'd be to taking such info at face value. (Though I'm not sure I'd even consider this a possbility in hindsight, just pointing out that even in the most extreme of responses it could be played off.) therefore I think the entire concept of asking for his PM color was flawed in response.
I think you're just overanalyzing a bad newb-test Lincolm did.
I'm looking at it critically but maybe you're right. I stand by that the concept was flawed, I have no idea as to Lincolm's experience but I'm just giving my opinion on the matter. I stand by that it COULD potentially have been a scum play but I agree that it's just a shortsighted newb test.
Dawns

Foxtrot wrote:

interesting that you mention a connection between Lincolm and Zekks, Dawnsday

Zekks recently wrote this

Zekks wrote:

idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
and I asked her to clarify on this, but she hasn't told me anything yet. I know, I might be looking too hard for clues, but that is such an odd thing to say
It is odd agreed. It's possible this is just fluff memery (however inappropriate one may deem it in a thread). I'm also quite eager to hear the reasoning for it but on the whole I don't think there's too too much that can be read into.
Foxtrot
well, at least everybody showed up by now. that's very good.
johnmedina999

Foxtrot wrote:

interesting that you mention a connection between Lincolm and Zekks, Dawnsday
It doesn't help that both times he asked someone about me he asked Zekks.
Foxtrot
honestly, that can also be seen as his way to shift attention to the newbies like he tried to do with you. too early to tell, though.
Zekks
Who's her?
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

Who's her?
are you deliberately avoiding my question?
Topic Starter
beeboy123

Lincolm wrote:

@Mod : May you please put this in your (most first) post?
Players ISO :
1. johnmedina999
2. Zexion
3. Dawnsday
4. Foxtrot
5. Hika
6. [ - Zekks - ]
7. Lincolm
8. abraker
9. rEdo

Mod ISO :
beeboy123
Updated, thank you.
Zekks

Foxtrot wrote:

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

Who's her?
are you deliberately avoiding my question?
what was your question 'w'
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

what was your question 'w'
did you ready my post?

idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
what did you mean by this?
Zekks

Foxtrot wrote:

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

what was your question 'w'
did you ready my post?

idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
what did you mean by this?
As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me ;)
Hika
maybe cuz u r scum smh ^

Unvote
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me ;)
really now? interesting
Zekks

Foxtrot wrote:

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me ;)
really now? interesting
Yes, very interesting
Hika
why the fuck are there three votes on me that's crazy as fuck
Hika
also zekks, stop that its annoying u scum
Foxtrot
you're acting very scummy, zekks. if you're town, i advise you to stop it. you're most likely not.
johnmedina999

Hika wrote:

why the fuck are there three votes on me that's crazy as fuck
The votecount is wrong, I didn't vote for you.
Hika
Oh alright I was just wondering cause I only remember getting voted twice
Hika
Oh also I forgot to hit submit but if someone asks for reads or opinions, it's probably better to reveal them in a timely matter and in complete honesty because it definitely can shape a better opinion of you for someone else. In this case, if you're scum/town. @john
Hika
p.s. RVS is over imo
abraker

Zexion wrote:

I missed Dawnsday image-posts.

This is going to be a fun game.
I thought I was the only one who made charts and stuff and over analyzed everything.


johnmedina999 wrote:

as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.
Zekks was onto both on Foxtrot and Lincolm. What difference does it make who gets the vote? It doesn't make sense for Foxtrot to go easier on Lincolm if Foxtrot himself ends up on the end of the voting stick instead.

Speaking of that,

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

I might vote for Foxtrot, since she is trying to pin everyone on Lincolm, but that seems kinda weak, but I'll still hold onto that

Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
My scum detector is getting a faint reading here. Attempting to justify the no change in vote using indecisiveness between the two most active members? By what I see Lincolm was trying to break RVS and caught the attention of Foxtrot in the processes. Why even mention a change in vote before the dust has settled a bit is beyond me.

abraker wrote:

Zekks, why do you think Lincolm is asking you so many questions?
And you ignored my question too, what gives? Answer mine and Lincolm's questions already!


Zekks - is the most suspicious one for giving the weirdest responses and ignoring questions. Such crude indecisiveness and accumulation of mishaps is what killed Dawnsday day 1 last game.

Lincolm - don't want to draw any conclusions just yet, but is slightly on my radar

Foxtrot - My personal BS detector from now on

John - Poor guy. He needs more heat lol

The rest are null
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

Yes, very interesting
you know what would be more interesting?

Unvote

Vote: Zekks
Zekks
I'm just confused, I'm too lazy to look over things asdf. If I die the mafia will have a higher chance of living, so if you decide to kill me off, good luck!
Dawns
Vote: Zekks

Maybe this gives you the incentive to "look things over". You're setting off my scumdar now.
Foxtrot

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

I'm just confused, I'm too lazy to look over things asdf. If I die the mafia will have a higher chance of living, so if you decide to kill me off, good luck!
nice taunt
Hika
need vote count b4 I vote Zekks
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