22:15 frukoyurdakul: good map
22:15 frukoyurdakul: needs some adjustments though
22:15 Remus: Thanks
22:15 Remus: Sure
22:15 frukoyurdakul: I need to be certain on something, let me ask
22:15 Remus: Also i wanted to ask you about 1 thing here
22:15 frukoyurdakul: oh?
22:15 Remus: It's just really confusing
22:15 Remus: 04:02:032 (1578,1579,1580,1581) -
22:16 Remus: Everyone are confused here
22:16 Remus: I mean
22:16 Remus: Music follows that 1/6
22:16 frukoyurdakul: oh that was just me
22:16 frukoyurdakul: don't worry
22:16 frukoyurdakul: I'm a bit cold lo
22:16 Remus: But most of players can't tap those properly
22:16 Remus: Oh, then fine x)
22:16 frukoyurdakul: although
22:16 frukoyurdakul: I can suggest something like
22:16 frukoyurdakul: 04:01:865 (1576,1577) - kk
22:16 frukoyurdakul: 04:02:032 (1578,1579,1580,1581) - dddk
22:17 frukoyurdakul: will follow the drums better
22:17 Remus: Oh ,wow
22:17 Remus: Really good lol
22:17 Remus: I didn't even think about it
22:17 frukoyurdakul: do you open for irc?
22:17 Remus: omg
22:17 Remus: Thanks, fixed
22:17 Remus: Sure
22:17 Remus: I'll post it on forum then
22:18 frukoyurdakul: no I'll do it, you don't have to do anything
22:18 Remus: Or you can post?
22:18 frukoyurdakul: as long as there is the mod
22:18 Remus: Anyway
22:18 Remus: Okay
22:19 frukoyurdakul: you may need to cut the music
22:19 frukoyurdakul: the map ends on 5:08 but .mp3 goes on for 5:40
22:20 Remus: I tSo i need to cut it at 05:09:698 - or somewhere near?
22:20 frukoyurdakul: I'm asking around
22:21 Remus: Ok
22:22 frukoyurdakul: 00:32:365 - The beginning and the 2nd section doesn't have to be same
22:22 frukoyurdakul: I'll suggest some variations
22:23 frukoyurdakul: 00:34:198 (125) - k, because of the high guitar
22:23 frukoyurdakul: 00:36:448 (138) - k because of variation
22:23 frukoyurdakul: 00:40:198 (165,167) - delete these, they are excessive
22:24 Remus: fixed 36 and 40 second's suggestions
22:24 Remus: 00:34:198 (125,126) - i guess i'll keep that one cause of guitar on both
22:24 frukoyurdakul: 00:34:198 (125) - the pitch on this is really high compared to 126 though
22:25 Remus: Hm
22:25 Remus: Well, your truth, right
22:25 Remus: Changed to kat
22:26 frukoyurdakul: 00:49:615 - how about adding a kat here?
22:26 frukoyurdakul: I can hear a slight snare sound, but up to you
22:27 Remus: Oh, isn't it so quiet?
22:27 frukoyurdakul: Yeah, you skipped all of them
22:27 frukoyurdakul: no need to put one there
22:27 Remus: Ok
22:28 frukoyurdakul: 01:16:365 - you can increase the volume there
22:28 frukoyurdakul: don't need a point on 404th note
22:29 Remus: Ah lol
22:29 Remus: 80 and 90
22:29 Remus: see
22:29 Remus: Fixed
22:29 frukoyurdakul: 01:28:365 - I think starting from here you can add some kats to emphasize the guitar
22:30 frukoyurdakul: The rhythm follows the drums too much, and lacks for variation because of this reason
22:30 frukoyurdakul: (I can't believe I'm the one says that lol)
22:30 Remus: I can convert every don on high guitar sound to kat
22:30 Remus: That's it?
22:30 Remus: Let me try it, sec
22:30 frukoyurdakul: Some of them
22:31 frukoyurdakul: 01:29:698 (487,490) - these two, for example
22:31 frukoyurdakul: Or, no
22:31 Remus: 01:29:532 (483,485) -
22:31 Remus: Oh
22:31 frukoyurdakul: do it on every one of them haha
22:31 Remus: Those one 01:29:532 (483,485) - maybe?
22:31 frukoyurdakul: make it consistent
22:31 Remus: Okay
22:31 frukoyurdakul: does kdk sound good to you?
22:31 frukoyurdakul: I think it's fine
22:35 Remus: Only 01:30:198 (488) - is fine with kat, hahahaha
22:35 Remus: But i'll try to diversify
22:35 Remus: Just need more repeats of listening i guess
22:36 frukoyurdakul: 01:32:365 - 01:32:865 - 01:33:032 - 01:33:532 - those can be emphasized as well
22:37 Remus: Well, with 1+2+4 notes it's good
22:37 Remus: third one breaks emphasizing with kat on it, i guess
22:38 frukoyurdakul: hmm yeah
22:38 frukoyurdakul: 01:40:032 (548,549,550) - I think a finisher instead of a triplet will emphasize the drum sound way better
22:40 Remus: this triplet is kind of building the sound up to this kat
22:40 frukoyurdakul: KAT, specifically
22:40 frukoyurdakul: but what sound is on the kat sound?
22:41 frukoyurdakul: guitar and drums start on 01:40:032 - this and continues for a while
22:41 Remus: See
22:41 frukoyurdakul: mmm?
22:41 Remus: so better to delete note in the mid of triplet
22:41 Remus: make last note don
22:42 Remus: and note after last one to big kat?
22:42 frukoyurdakul: something like this
22:42 frukoyurdakul: 01:40:115 (549,550) - delete those tow
22:42 frukoyurdakul: two*
22:42 frukoyurdakul: and make 01:40:032 (548) - this KAT
22:43 frukoyurdakul: the KAT hitsound also continues with the music if you do that
22:43 Remus: Oh, i see now
22:43 Remus: I just already deleted some notes, so i didn't get which notes to delete lol
22:43 Remus: Fixed
22:44 Remus: Nice one, sounds better
22:44 frukoyurdakul: 01:46:448 - you should add a note here
22:45 frukoyurdakul: to maintain consistency, I suggest deleting 01:46:282 - this one
22:45 frukoyurdakul: or, have a better idea
22:45 Remus: ?
22:46 frukoyurdakul: 01:46:032 - k ddkkd k
22:46 Remus: Yes
22:46 Remus: Changed
22:46 frukoyurdakul: 01:52:365 - kdkdk
22:47 frukoyurdakul: I know it'll be too repetitive
22:47 frukoyurdakul: but it supports the sounds on this case
22:47 Remus: Well, if you said
22:47 Remus: I thought it would be repetitive too
22:47 Remus: But ok, changed
22:47 frukoyurdakul: 01:56:865 - 01:57:365 - finishers on them
22:48 Remus: Won't be so overused of big notes?
22:48 Remus: Or it's fine?
22:48 frukoyurdakul: This is not overusing tbh
22:48 Remus: Okay
22:49 Remus: Two K now
22:49 frukoyurdakul: 02:20:365 - DON
22:49 frukoyurdakul: good way to end a measure, plus the strong crash cymbal
22:49 Remus: Was afraid of big note at the end of stream
22:49 frukoyurdakul: nah, it's 1/3
22:49 Remus: DON now
22:49 frukoyurdakul: totally fine
22:49 Remus: Ok, i'll remember that
22:50 frukoyurdakul: 02:24:365 - here as well
22:50 frukoyurdakul: 02:25:698 -
22:50 frukoyurdakul: 02:27:032 -
22:50 frukoyurdakul: wait
22:50 frukoyurdakul: okay 2:24 only
22:50 Remus: Yes
22:50 Remus: I changed that only
22:51 frukoyurdakul: you should change the similiar notes on what you've changed on 1st kiai
22:51 Remus: 02:32:365 (870) - in this one?
22:51 frukoyurdakul: for the entire kiai
22:52 Remus: They can be different, because music isn't similar
22:52 Remus: It's strange a bit
22:52 Remus: But some of sounds are different
22:52 Remus: But i'll check them again, sure
22:52 frukoyurdakul: I meant the similiar parts
22:52 Remus: Yep
22:54 frukoyurdakul: waiting for you to fix them
22:54 Remus: Done
22:54 Remus: And
22:54 Remus: 02:47:782 (968) -
22:54 frukoyurdakul: ah
22:54 Remus: is it ok to dkd here>
22:54 Remus: ?
22:54 frukoyurdakul: 01:31:782 (501) - put here as well
22:54 frukoyurdakul: then yeah it is
22:55 Remus: Done
22:56 frukoyurdakul: 03:01:698 - I think this stream needs to be simple
22:56 frukoyurdakul: the notes you put don't follow anything, neither guitar nor drums
22:56 Remus: 03:02:698 (1105,1106,1107) -
22:56 Remus: those triples are all followed by drums
22:56 frukoyurdakul: not really
22:57 frukoyurdakul: try putting kkdddd
22:57 Remus: 03:02:032 (1097) - and this for deaf drum
22:57 frukoyurdakul: from the beginning
22:57 frukoyurdakul: 03:03:698 - to there
22:57 Remus: Ok, 1 sec
22:58 Remus: Well, looks easier and more rhytmical, ok
22:58 Remus: 03:01:032 (1086,1087,1088,1089,1090,1091) - should i change it then?
22:58 Remus: To not repeat so much?
22:58 frukoyurdakul: good point yeah
22:59 Remus: Ah, they are totally similar
22:59 Remus: Don't know how to change lol
23:00 frukoyurdakul: 03:01:282 (1093) - do this kat
23:00 frukoyurdakul: and the last note don
23:00 Remus: Ok
23:01 frukoyurdakul: 03:04:365 - I think I have something for those variations
23:01 frukoyurdakul: 03:07:032 - since these section has a pitch difference, I think we can adjust the kat density
23:01 frukoyurdakul: Something along like this:
23:01 frukoyurdakul: 03:04:365 - kdkdd
23:02 frukoyurdakul: 03:04:865 - kdddk
23:02 frukoyurdakul: kdkdd
23:02 frukoyurdakul: 03:05:365 - kdkdd
23:02 frukoyurdakul: 03:05:865 - kdddk
23:02 frukoyurdakul: 03:06:532 - d
23:02 frukoyurdakul: 03:08:282 - k
23:02 frukoyurdakul: etc.
23:03 Remus: I made them different only because of diversifying
23:03 Remus: Because
23:03 Remus: Putting 10 secs of similar stuff is...
23:03 Remus: Kind of boring
23:03 Remus: But i'll try to change them, sec
23:03 Remus: YOur option is almost the same i thought about
23:04 Remus: i can change 1,3 parts, but keep 2,4 the same
23:04 Remus: I mean
23:05 frukoyurdakul: I'll look at it after the update then
23:05 Remus: 03:04:365 (1124) - 03:06:198 (1143) - is 1 part, 03:07:032 (1152) - 03:08:865 (1171) - the second and e.t.c.
23:05 Remus: Okay
23:06 Remus: Changed as you said 1,3 part of this
23:06 Remus: And to not repeat, saved 2,4 parts
23:06 frukoyurdakul: 03:33:532 - why do you have a finisher on this? you don't have on the others
23:06 Remus: 03:36:198 (1389) - i have here too
23:07 frukoyurdakul: 03:44:198 - then you need here
23:07 Remus: Better to delete?
23:07 frukoyurdakul: I'm mostly asking "why"
23:07 frukoyurdakul: because I can't hear a special sound
23:08 Remus: 03:33:532 (1369) - it will be so hard to explain due to lack of vocabulary in English
23:08 Remus: But it smth like sudden change of tonality and volume
23:08 Remus: Or kind of
23:09 Remus: It also emphasizes that long sound by gap after it
23:09 Remus: 03:33:698 -
23:09 Remus: We did the same in the beginning
23:09 Remus: YOu said me
23:09 Remus: Sec
23:09 Remus: I'll found it
23:09 frukoyurdakul: 03:44:198 (1443) - That sound (sort of) exists on there as well
23:09 frukoyurdakul: and you need a finisher to keep them consistent
23:10 Remus: Oh, okay
23:10 Remus: Then i can add D here and it'll be fine?
23:10 frukoyurdakul: yep
23:10 frukoyurdakul: 03:49:532 - those should be on 1/3
23:11 Remus: I discussed this moment with others
23:11 Remus: They said, that it's clearly 1/4 03:49:532 - to 03:49:698 -
23:11 Remus: But
23:11 Remus: 03:49:448 - here should be 1/3 too
23:11 Remus: And i was thinking about it
23:12 Remus: So i decided to make it 1/3 then 1/4, and gap to give player time to adapte to this rhythm change
23:12 Remus: Or i can be wrond D:
23:12 Remus: Wrong*
23:12 frukoyurdakul: if you are following the guitar
23:12 frukoyurdakul: they should be 1/3
23:12 frukoyurdakul: I listened it with 50% speed now, and I still think the same
23:12 Remus: I tried to mix
23:12 frukoyurdakul: tbh I noticed this one on testplay
23:13 frukoyurdakul: ah
23:13 Remus: Try on 25%
23:13 Remus: I mean
23:13 Remus: Listen to guitar
23:13 frukoyurdakul: the drums are 1/4 yeah
23:14 frukoyurdakul: but the guitar is 1/3 I'm certain of it
23:14 Remus: To be true
23:14 Remus: I had them all 1/3 before
23:14 Remus: But after 5 mods, that said me about this moment
23:14 frukoyurdakul: really?
23:14 frukoyurdakul: let me look
23:14 Remus: I became a bit afraid of that i am wrong
23:14 Remus: Sure
23:15 Remus: Testplayers also pointed that
23:15 Remus: Like
23:15 Remus: "uhm, is it all 1/3 or 1/4?"
23:15 frukoyurdakul: lol I've mentioned that on my mod too
23:15 Remus: true
23:16 frukoyurdakul: as "you should keep it as 1/3"
23:16 frukoyurdakul: instead of combining them
23:16 Remus: Okay, i changed then
23:17 frukoyurdakul: 04:12:365 (1648) - I think this one should be kat
23:17 frukoyurdakul: there is a snare on it
23:18 Remus: Oh, sure
23:18 Remus: And emphasize drums after it
23:18 frukoyurdakul: the last kiai should be changed as well as the 1st and 2nd one
23:19 Remus: Sec
23:20 Remus: Done
23:20 frukoyurdakul: that's all from me :3
23:20 Remus: Oh, you did very BIG work for me
23:20 Remus: Thanks a lot!
23:21 frukoyurdakul: np, update and I'll check once more
23:21 Remus: Sure, sec
23:21 frukoyurdakul: btw, will you mod Kantan and Futsuu on my map?
23:21 Remus: I can, but i am very bad at modding low diffs
23:21 Remus: But i can, if you want
23:22 Remus: Maybe you'll find my suggestions useful
23:22 Remus: Also
23:22 Remus: 05:08:198 (2030,2031,2032,2033) -
23:22 frukoyurdakul: You'll learn in time
23:22 Remus: is it fine with 1/6?
23:22 frukoyurdakul: totally fine
23:22 Remus: Okay
23:22 frukoyurdakul: it's not the only occurence eventually
23:22 Remus: Uploading
23:23 Remus: Oh
23:23 Remus: my
23:23 Remus: GOD
23:23 Remus: MAP LIMIT WTF
23:23 Remus: Hahaha
23:23 Remus: Sec, i'll purchase supporter than lok
23:23 Remus: lol
23:23 frukoyurdakul: Okay I'm waiting
23:26 Remus: Done
23:27 frukoyurdakul: okay let's test it again
23:32 frukoyurdakul:
23:32 frukoyurdakul: rip those shitmisses
23:32 Remus: oh nooooooooo
23:32 Remus: D:
23:32 Remus: Anyway holy acc
23:32 Remus: UR 74 :0
23:33 frukoyurdakul: yeah my acc is good haha
23:33 Remus: wut
23:33 frukoyurdakul: well, noticed a few things
23:33 frukoyurdakul: first of all
23:33 Remus: ?
23:33 frukoyurdakul: where is that damn 1/4 1/6
23:33 frukoyurdakul: not the last one, the first one
23:34 Remus: 03:39:365 (1404,1405,1406) -
23:34 Remus: ?
23:34 frukoyurdakul: nope
23:34 Remus: Oh well...
23:34 frukoyurdakul: 05:08:198 (2030,2031,2032,2033,2034,2035) - something like this one
23:35 frukoyurdakul: the one you changed
23:35 Remus: Ah
23:35 Remus: Sec
23:35 Remus: 04:02:032 (1574,1575,1576,1577) -
23:35 Remus: this?
23:36 frukoyurdakul: 04:02:143 (1576) - change this one to d
23:36 frukoyurdakul: for a better playability
23:36 Remus: Done
23:36 Remus: Easier to play?
23:36 frukoyurdakul: and follows the drums too
23:36 Remus: Sure
23:36 frukoyurdakul: now, I see you ended some kiais before the section changes
23:36 frukoyurdakul: 04:02:143 (1576) -
23:36 frukoyurdakul: not that one whoops
23:36 frukoyurdakul: 01:35:032 -
23:36 frukoyurdakul: this spot
23:37 frukoyurdakul: 02:51:032 - and this spot ends before the other section starts
23:37 frukoyurdakul: while 04:46:865 (1869) - this section ends late
23:37 Remus: 04:02:143 (1576) - move first one to here?
23:37 Remus: 02:53:532 - second one to here?
23:37 frukoyurdakul: wrong timestamp?
23:37 frukoyurdakul: haha
23:38 Remus: Oh wow
23:38 frukoyurdakul: well, make them similiar
23:38 Remus: 01:37:532 - *
23:38 frukoyurdakul: either end the first one 01:37:532 (531) - here
23:38 Remus: Got it
23:38 frukoyurdakul: yeah, do it to the 2nd one as well
23:39 Remus: Done
23:39 frukoyurdakul: some finisher usages are a bit inconsistent
23:39 frukoyurdakul: I noticed that as well
23:40 Remus: First or second part of map?
23:40 frukoyurdakul: Let me demonstrate this way
23:40 frukoyurdakul: 00:56:198 - this one doesn't have finisher while
23:40 frukoyurdakul: 00:45:532 -
23:40 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:198 -
23:40 frukoyurdakul: these ones do
23:41 Remus: So, better to D 56:198
23:41 Remus: I guess
23:41 Remus: Did it big
23:42 frukoyurdakul: That's not the only occurence though
23:42 frukoyurdakul: 02:04:198 -
23:42 frukoyurdakul: 02:12:198 -
23:42 frukoyurdakul: those are inconsistent as wel
23:42 frukoyurdakul: well*
23:42 Remus: Sure, i am checking already them
23:43 Remus: Fixed all same spots
23:44 frukoyurdakul: okay, update then
23:44 frukoyurdakul: oh
23:44 frukoyurdakul: anyway screw it lol
23:45 Remus: Done
23:46 frukoyurdakul: okay looks good
23:47 frukoyurdakul: let me save log
23:47 Remus: So, about mp3 editing
23:48 frukoyurdakul: it's not important
23:48 Remus: Sure
23:48 frukoyurdakul: it should be 20% longer
23:48 frukoyurdakul: or it's acceptable
23:48 frukoyurdakul: 32 seconds is not that long
23:48 Remus: Okay then
23:49 frukoyurdakul: do you want to change anything else?
23:50 Remus: I was thinking about diff name
23:50 Remus: Like
23:50 Remus: Inner Oni is a bit common
23:50 Remus: Or it's fine?
23:50 Remus: If fine, so that's all
23:50 frukoyurdakul: Totally up to you
23:50 frukoyurdakul: If you want to change it to something relative, you can do it
23:50 Remus: I guess it's fine then
23:50 frukoyurdakul: something like
23:50 frukoyurdakul: Taiko stage i guess?
23:50 Remus: Oh
23:50 Remus: Hm
23:50 frukoyurdakul: because of touhou stuff
23:51 frukoyurdakul: It's just a suggestion though
23:51 frukoyurdakul: You don't have to do it
23:51 Remus: Sec
23:51 Remus: Nice suggest tho
23:51 Remus: You know, i'll pick your suggest
23:51 Remus: Sounds good :p
23:52 frukoyurdakul: Okay, update with the new diffname then
23:52 Remus: Changed
23:52 Remus: Already
23:53 frukoyurdakul: okay, anything else?
23:53 Remus: That's all, i think
23:53 Remus: If you have no other suggestions about map
23:53 Remus: I feel fine with that
23:54 frukoyurdakul: good, let's take it further then