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Hollow Delta

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Hollow Delta 2018-01-22T23:20:04+00:00

@Mentai do you want me to apply the kiai lines?

Mentai

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Mentai 2018-01-22T23:26:32+00:00

i don't think i want kiai in my diff, but if there is any unsnapped lines or anything i missed i'd appreciate any fixes for those

Hollow Delta

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Hollow Delta 2018-01-22T23:30:32+00:00

understood

updated

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2018-01-23T07:12:20+00:00

jokes on you i made a new post

topdiff

00:35:657 (1,2) - the fact that 1 goes back and forth fast as fk and it goes the opposite way makes it all the more harder to play, i rather you ctrl+G 2
same with 01:04:101 (1,2) -

fuckign hell this diff is rainbows as always
well your ncing has improved so i got nothin much to say

HC

00:07:212 (7,8,9,10) - is it me or is this slightly rotated for no reason? i rather u just keep it the same slider since the sounds are similar, and that the change in angle isnt enough to bring an impact to the visuals
00:08:990 (7,8) - visual spacing reEEEE
00:12:212 (5,1) - fix dat overlap

its ok

chalwa

fix all dem useless lines, its cuz of these that notes like 00:19:101 (2) - become unheard for no reason
seems ok, a lot of copypaste ;v

alphabet

get trolled theres nothing here
means good job owo)b

cant find much since u people r gud mappers
reEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hollow Delta

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Hollow Delta 2018-01-24T00:13:11+00:00

I would respond rn if a cat didn't break my headset.

When I borrow speakers I'll get back to this.

Chalwa

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Chalwa 2018-01-24T08:46:03+00:00

fixed all in both mods, ty
https://chalwa.s-ul.eu/NYxEnkyP

zev

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zev 2018-01-24T19:40:11+00:00

Ultimatum

00:06:545 (4) - make this double like 00:06:212 (2,3) - the snare doesn't change, so why would that be halved in emphasize rhythm-wise? I Can't Believe This.
i suggest stacking 00:07:879 (2) - on the sliderhead of 00:07:990 (3) - and also same thing with 00:08:212 (4,5) - it would make the punch sound more emphasized and be more easy to read especially when introducing a new phase of the song
i liked the snappy 1/4 rhythms then this felt a little 00:08:990 (1) - underwhelming, i'd say buff spacing or perhaps making this 3/4 slider 00:08:657 (7) -
i'm sure it will play.
00:11:879 (4) - there is no sound on the blue tick here and isn't in any way smiliar to this 00:11:657 (3) - i would say just make this a slider so it feels mapped to the punch. reverse sliders are suggestive that something is happening on blue ticks so as a player that's weird for me.
00:12:768 (2) - pitch increases so maybe you could make this an 1/4 slider instead of 1/8, it's just one of those niche things you might want to try out sometime.
00:13:990 (5) - can't you like move this on the blue tick punch and just space it more
00:20:990 (1,2,3,4) - i don't like how these are all straight sliders pointing down, while those follow different things 00:21:434 (3,4) - a different sliderdesign/direction would raise song expression,
00:22:323 (2) - I would do something different here, https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/1HgbZkt.png the 1/16 noise sound spawns on the blue tick and
it feels better imo because you have two birds in one stone
00:23:212 (1,2) - these could easily be spaced a bit more with the 1/16 gap you made and the relatively low bpm
00:27:879 (2) - this is just a punch with more reverb(echoey sound) i suggest making it land on a sliderend since there is technically no beat/punch there
or nerfing the spacing because noway that impact is stronger then that impact 00:28:323 (2) -
00:28:545 (1) - 00:33:879 - soft-hitfinish?
song sections repeat themself so needless to say rather a general mod

HC insane
00:05:434 (7) - this reverse slider would feel better on the blue tick because the stream melody is emphasizing the blue tick.
00:07:212 (1) - maybe nc to indicate this unique row of streams
01:01:434 (3) - yoo. this looks like nonsense tohugh
00:28:545 (3) - what are those finishes based on, can't tell. finish.
00:56:990 (3) - finish
01:00:545 (6) - finish
seems you sometimes preserve the soft-hitfinish for intense sections but also want to hitsound the clap which kind of clashes i guess? try figuring out something?

chalwa light insan
00:00:546 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ooww this intro kinds of maps everything in a way i can't tell why you would want to do that ;w;
i think you mapped the synth which is an interesting choice
you could make the synth stand out more by making these 00:00:990 (2) - 00:02:768 (2) - an 1/2 slider instead of 1/1
players can keep track better what is happening if you don't map everything(melody on sliderend)

mentai's normal

01:04:101 (2,1) - to me this seems like it sort off ignores the song, because the song the quadruples in beats, i'd say just go full on 1/2 it's fine, right now this is really Easy like rhythm.
00:35:657 (2) - ^

alphabet hard
00:25:434 (1) - i'd make this a reverse slider for these so when you start clicking objects again it happends when the melody is standing out in it's phrase 00:26:323 -

yehaj

Hollow Delta

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Hollow Delta 2018-01-24T21:47:58+00:00

@_Meep_
I didn't apply that because having the heads overlap like that turns it into a static pattern, which wouldn't play right relative the the kiai. I feel it fits better with the extra motion.

zev wrote:

Ultimatum
00:06:545 (4) - make this double like 00:06:212 (2,3) - the snare doesn't change, so why would that be halved in emphasize rhythm-wise? I Can't Believe This. Because it doesn't sound the same to me. 00:06:212 (2,3) - Here it sounds like 2 distinct beats while in the second point it sounds like the first beat has more strength over the 2nd, which is why I didn't map them the same way.
i suggest stacking 00:07:879 (2) - on the sliderhead of 00:07:990 (3) - and also same thing with 00:08:212 (4,5) - it would make the punch sound more emphasized and be more easy to read especially when introducing a new phase of the song I feel like the muscle memory created by the stack still creates the same punchy effect, but I'll keep note of this as I feel it's good.
i liked the snappy 1/4 rhythms then this felt a little 00:08:990 (1) - underwhelming, i'd say buff spacing or perhaps making this 3/4 slider 00:08:657 (7) -
i'm sure it will play. I'm not sure what's different about it, it still has the snappy 1/4 motion along with 1-6. Increasing the spacing would make the whole pattern off because the idea is it's fixed into place.
00:11:879 (4) - there is no sound on the blue tick here and isn't in any way smiliar to this 00:11:657 (3) - i would say just make this a slider so it feels mapped to the punch. reverse sliders are suggestive that something is happening on blue ticks so as a player that's weird for me. The reverse is actually 1/6, but while there is no sound there, that doesn't mean it's wrong. Because of leniency it still plays as 1/2, so it's not that weird to play. The reverse is there because it contrasts this part from the 1/2, which I feel is more engaging to play.
00:12:768 (2) - pitch increases so maybe you could make this an 1/4 slider instead of 1/8, it's just one of those niche things you might want to try out sometime. I feel that would make this part confusing to play, because while I am creating variation, I have separate concepts for the 1/4 and 1/8 patterns, so placing 1/4 here might misdirect the player. The 1/8 plays more consistently.
00:13:990 (5) - can't you like move this on the blue tick punch and just space it more
I'm not sure why I would. It's a long and emphasized sound, so I feel the length fits.
00:20:990 (1,2,3,4) - i don't like how these are all straight sliders pointing down, while those follow different things 00:21:434 (3,4) - a different sliderdesign/direction would raise song expression,
I changed the pattern slightly to compliment those subtler parts.
00:22:323 (2) - I would do something different here, https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/1HgbZkt.png the 1/16 noise sound spawns on the blue tick and
it feels better imo because you have two birds in one stone That would lower the density heavily because the song is more intense here, so I feel it'd be underwhelming to simplify it to that extent. I broke the pattern down into 1/2 jumps because you can't just throw in 270bpm streams suddenly, yet you want it dense enough to fit the kiai.
00:23:212 (1,2) - these could easily be spaced a bit more with the 1/16 gap you made and the relatively low bpm
I tried to consider how 1/8 distance along with slider leniency would work out. I felt this distance for a start was okay.
00:27:879 (2) - this is just a punch with more reverb(echoey sound) i suggest making it land on a sliderend since there is technically no beat/punch there
or nerfing the spacing because noway that impact is stronger then that impact 00:28:323 (2) -
I think this rhythm still fits because the quick motions fit the snappy feel.
00:28:545 (1) - 00:33:879 - soft-hitfinish?
I'm not entirely mapping the beat, so placing the soft-finish would feel out of place because that's not what the focus is.
song sections repeat themself so needless to say rather a general mod
yehaj

Thanks for the mod
Also updated diff @Chalwa

Vespirit

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Vespirit 2018-01-24T22:04:10+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
jokes on you i made a new post
HC
00:07:212 (7,8,9,10) - is it me or is this slightly rotated for no reason? i rather u just keep it the same slider since the sounds are similar, and that the change in angle isnt enough to bring an impact to the visuals ok fixed it
00:08:990 (7,8) - visual spacing reEEEE rreeeeeeeeee
00:12:212 (5,1) - fix dat overlap ok best i could do

its ok
cant find much since u people r gud mappers
reEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

zev wrote:

HC insane
00:05:434 (7) - this reverse slider would feel better on the blue tick because the stream melody is emphasizing the blue tick. disagree,
would make more sense imo to split up the stream at the white tick since each white tick the increase in pitch resets
00:07:212 (1) - maybe nc to indicate this unique row of streams ok
01:01:434 (3) - yoo. this looks like nonsense tohugh i cant find anything really wrong with it personally
00:28:545 (3) - what are those finishes based on, can't tell. finish. hs copied from other diff, gonna keep consistency for these
00:56:990 (3) - finish
01:00:545 (6) - finish
seems you sometimes preserve the soft-hitfinish for intense sections but also want to hitsound the clap which kind of clashes i guess? try figuring out something?
yehaj

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303,283,32101,1,6,2:0:0:0:
281,19,32323,1,2,0:0:0:0:
13,356,32545,6,0,L|170:347,1,157.499998855591,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
287,333,32879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
199,204,32990,2,0,P|194:234|198:252,6,39.3749997138977
214,180,33434,1,0,0:0:0:0:
333,228,33545,1,0,0:0:0:0:
333,228,33657,2,0,P|368:233|416:214,1,78.7499994277954,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,180,33879,2,0,P|175:175|138:188,1,78.7499994277954,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
362,139,34101,2,0,P|385:107|392:69,1,78.7499994277954,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,258,34323,6,0,B|264:382|264:382|283:336,1,157.499998855591,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
290,168,34657,1,0,0:0:0:0:
290,168,34768,2,0,B|235:173,3,39.3749997138977,4|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,88,34990,2,0,B|218:94,3,39.3749997138977,4|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
310,85,35212,1,0,0:0:0:0:
405,162,35323,1,0,0:0:0:0:
330,261,35434,2,0,L|243:257,1,78.7499994277954,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
157,143,35657,2,0,P|176:150|193:159,3,39.3749997138977,0|0|0|0,3:0|3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
247,219,35879,2,0,P|250:238|251:257,3,39.3749997138977,0|0|0|0,3:0|3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
273,141,36101,6,0,P|328:130|404:162,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,341,36434,1,4,3:0:0:0:
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411,91,36768,2,0,L|395:162,1,65.6249970197678,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,236,36990,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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246,301,37434,2,0,P|216:262|212:226,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,236,37657,2,0,P|362:259|373:290,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,103,37879,6,0,B|419:203|419:203|388:173,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,32,38212,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,32,38323,2,0,B|337:38,1,65.6249970197678,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
493,108,38545,2,0,B|427:102,1,65.6249970197678
339,120,38768,1,4,3:0:0:0:
512,197,38879,2,0,P|483:254|411:274,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
293,223,39212,2,0,L|372:216,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,304,39434,2,0,L|317:309,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
275,120,39657,6,0,P|214:147|190:215,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,80,39990,2,0,P|293:40|222:53,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,177,40323,1,8,3:0:0:0:
125,285,40545,1,0,0:0:0:0:
125,285,40657,2,0,L|266:295,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
391,248,40990,2,0,L|325:252,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,359,41212,2,0,L|255:293,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,116,41434,6,0,L|193:246,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
354,140,41768,2,0,P|409:124|499:158,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
318,249,42101,2,0,P|255:265|193:246,1,131.249994039536,0|4,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
392,212,42434,2,0,L|401:342,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
354,140,42768,2,0,P|386:129|428:139,1,65.6249970197678,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
474,253,42990,2,0,P|485:223|481:191,1,65.6249970197678,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,267,43212,6,0,L|175:261,1,131.249994039536,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,175,43545,1,4,3:0:0:0:
0,175,43657,2,0,P|50:159|79:160,1,65.6249970197678,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,324,43879,2,0,P|174:292|175:260,1,65.6249970197678,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,172,44101,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,264,44212,2,0,L|257:280,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,177,44545,2,0,P|415:183|443:198,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
434,341,44768,2,0,P|458:319|474:290,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,200,44990,6,0,L|314:342,1,131.249994039536,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,154,45323,1,0,0:0:0:0:
219,154,45434,2,0,L|227:88,1,65.6249970197678,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,246,45657,2,0,P|83:248|52:237,1,65.6249970197678,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
98,162,45879,1,4,0:3:0:0:
156,357,45990,2,0,P|132:290|152:226,1,131.249994039536,8|4,3:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
285,284,46323,2,0,L|220:291,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,207,46545,2,0,L|258:200,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
391,351,46768,6,0,L|403:220,1,131.249994039536,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
425,23,47101,2,0,P|376:75|385:147,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
485,288,47434,1,4,3:0:0:0:
195,226,47657,1,4,3:0:0:0:
195,226,47768,2,0,P|251:257|316:249,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
210,147,48101,2,0,L|141:153,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
290,141,48323,2,0,L|284:72,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
178,249,48545,6,0,B|184:345|184:345|212:376,1,131.249994039536,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,197,48879,2,0,P|178:171|119:197,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
283,280,49212,2,0,P|341:305|400:279,1,131.249994039536,4|4,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
370,105,49545,2,0,B|347:132|347:132|341:228,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
442,143,49879,2,0,P|451:111|447:79,1,65.6249970197678,4|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,213,50101,2,0,P|449:216|480:207,1,65.6249970197678,4|0,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,188,50323,6,0,L|117:194,1,131.249994039536,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
209,301,50657,2,0,L|340:295,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,178,50990,2,0,P|401:222|499:238,1,131.249994039536,0|4,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
319,125,51323,1,0,0:0:0:0:
319,125,51434,1,4,0:3:0:0:
157,384,51657,1,4,3:2:0:0:
216,127,51879,1,4,0:3:0:0:
451,360,52101,6,0,P|486:304|481:225,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,151,52434,2,0,P|366:206|366:271,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
434,373,52768,1,2,0:0:0:0:
388,55,52990,1,4,3:0:0:0:
254,266,53212,1,4,3:0:0:0:
478,23,53434,1,4,3:2:0:0:
344,234,53656,1,4,3:0:0:0:
81,45,53879,6,0,B|146:27|146:27|226:38,1,131.249994039536,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,107,54212,2,0,P|334:178|304:234,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,152,54545,1,0,0:0:0:0:
499,18,54768,1,4,3:0:0:0:
234,38,54990,1,4,3:0:0:0:
486,248,55212,1,4,3:2:0:0:
221,228,55434,1,4,3:0:0:0:
466,22,55657,6,0,L|458:160,1,131.249994039536,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,301,55990,2,0,P|400:292|372:275,1,65.6249970197678,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,165,56212,2,0,P|326:173|354:190,1,65.6249970197678,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
354,190,56657,5,2,0:0:0:0:
257,324,56768,2,0,L|177:320,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,275,56990,2,0,L|437:271,1,65.6249970197678,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,234,57212,1,2,0:0:0:0:
257,324,57323,1,0,0:0:0:0:
305,187,57434,6,0,P|249:150|181:164,1,131.249994039536,4|0,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
115,263,57768,2,0,P|178:271|231:235,1,131.249994039536,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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241,66,58434,1,0,0:0:0:0:
241,66,58545,1,4,3:0:0:0:
479,293,58768,1,4,3:2:0:0:
231,235,58990,1,4,3:0:0:0:
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496,25,60545,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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183,230,61879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
93,333,61990,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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105,77,62323,2,0,P|131:106|142:143,1,78.7499994277954,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Lafayla

Beatmap Nominator

348 posts

Joined December 2014

Lafayla 2018-01-25T20:12:49+00:00

Not placeholder anymore

[Mentai's Normal]

right off the bat, why such contrast in slider shapes 00:00:546 (1,2) - if for aesthetics please change because subjective but vertical wave sliders are meh
00:12:990 (1) - moving it up a bit while keeping same ds would make visual spacing cuter, however; i disagree that visually you should have objects in different parts of the timeline so close to eachother since most players at this level suck at reading and instead will reccomend something like [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10106905]this] but this occurs many times throughout this difficulty so I won't say anything else about it
00:56:768 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - this chain is very long, i would suggest leaving some breathing room around 00:59:879 (2) -
00:28:323 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - similar to what i mentioned above, i know 135 bpm isn't alot but considering its the lowest difficulty in the set I don't really agree that players should have to chain this long considering most other rhythms are 3 objects maximum
00:33:657 (2) - did you get trapped here? this overlap is pretty messy considering everything else in this difficulty is pretty clean, i think 00:30:768 (1,2) - are the objects mainly trapping you here, adjusting their placements will help you clean this up

[abc]

00:27:657 (2) - what happened here lol, im sure theres something fancier you can do here
00:50:323 (1,2) - visual spacing is really tight here which makes this appear as 1/2 spacing instead, adjust it would be a good idea
01:02:768 (1) - might want to flip this so 01:02:545 (6,1) - is a smoother transition, it feels pretty rough currently even if done intentionally for emphasis

[chalwa's light insane]

00:00:546 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm is a bit awkward, im not sure what you are following, it seems like melody but why did you leave 00:01:434 - for a slider end
00:02:323 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:03:434 (3,4) - is 1/2 spacing from 00:02:768 (2) - yet 00:03:434 (3,4,1) - is also 1/2 spacing but its 1/1 gap, making spacing more distinguishable would be a good idea.
00:18:990 (1,2) - too close, appears as 1/4 when actually 1/2
00:32:545 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why didn't you apply the concept here? it doesn't look like you dodge the concept anywhere else in the map
I see the concept being applied throughout this diff with the 180 degree rotates but it seems like a tough reading challenge, nonetheless consistently done so it should be fine

[HC's Insane]

00:09:212 (8,4) - noticable overlap in gameplay which doesn't look too pretty
up until here > 00:21:879 - and later on in the diff , aside from a couple of placements, almost all objects are in the bottom right margin D: its not really a "problem" just feels a bit constricted meanwhile left playfield recieves close to no attention
00:19:657 (6,7) - adjusting these so that 00:20:768 (3) - can overlap 00:19:879 (7) - would fix this minor overlap
personal opinion> 00:57:323 (5) - stacking this on the head in this case makes it quite a reading challenge, making this clean by placing anywhere around 331,351 or something would make this more readable, also gives better emphasis for 00:57:434 (1) -

[Ultimatum]

00:12:768 (2) - doing a ctrl g on this would be nice, it wouldn't break the concept either because you do something similar with 00:17:879 (1,2) - and 00:19:657 (1,2) -
will players be okay with accurately hitting 00:26:323 (1,2,1,2) - ? i got alpha to testplay it a few times and he couldn't get a combo while trying to hit them at all because of the tiny hit window (he could just be bad xd) but i also couldn't combo them, to top it off hitting 00:27:212 (1) - is even greater of a struggle. just seems like playability is very harsh
00:27:545 (2,1,2) - i find this extremely difficult to read, this is pretty subjective though tbh
kiai volumes to be pretty loud, a bit painful
double check your inherited timing points, 2 of them are on 00:32:545 -

GoodLuck

Last edited by Lafayla 2018-01-26T22:39:17+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2018-01-25T20:55:22+00:00

@zev although you are right, i have to maintain that i am currently anchoring the set in difficulty, so my 1/2 spam up to this point needs relief. i think the 1/1 actually represents the unique moving line the best because of that

no change then

i'll try and keep up with this thread on my own, since i don't get email notifications for osu

Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2018-01-25T23:33:37+00:00

@zev I won't change since i wasn't really focusing on emphasizing the pitch, but rather representing each section of the song consistently with slidershapes

blobdash

912 posts

Joined April 2016

blobdash 2018-01-26T22:04:01+00:00

M4M return
General
Difficulties end time is not consistent:
01:04:545 - Mentai's Normal
01:08:101 - Other diffs
Double green lines on Ultimatum diff (check AIMod)
AIBat also reports a lot of unsnapped sliders.

AIBat Report

Snapping
00:11:657 (3) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:11:657 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:11:879 (4) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:11:879 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:18:768 (3) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:18:768 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:18:990 (4) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:18:990 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:20:545 (3) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:20:545 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:20:768 (4) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:20:768 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:22:268 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:268 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:268 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:990 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:990 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:22:990 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:23:212 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:23:212 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:23:212 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:23:434 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:23:434 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:23:434 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:25:768 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:25:768 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:25:768 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:25:768 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:323 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:323 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:323 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:545 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:545 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:545 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:990 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:990 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:26:990 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:29:379 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:29:379 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:29:379 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:29:879 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:29:879 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:29:879 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:101 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:101 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:101 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:323 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:323 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:323 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:545 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:30:545 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
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These may be wrong as you use 1/8, but eh idk, just pasting it here.

Applies to all diffs

00:00:546 - Maybe you could add some impact to this. Maybe hitsound volume change?

Ultimatum

00:22:545 (1,2,3,4,1) - This goes for every pattern ; They flow good but they look misaligned. 1/8 also feels uh, overmapped? I don't know, adding 270bpm streams while the diff is 4.7* is weird.
00:09:768 (3,6) - Not properly parallel
00:17:545 (6,1,2) - ^
00:23:212 (1,2) - Overlap? Why?

HC's Insane

00:12:212 (5,1) - Non proper stack (don't forget to restack 00:13:990 (4,6) - and everything else)
00:19:879 (7) - Maybe stack 7 with 00:18:657 (2) - and it'd give something like this (move 6 too) https://i.imgur.com/zwybaTH.jpg
00:39:657 (1,2) - Blanket seems off.
00:49:545 (4,5,6) - Not the same blanket spacing, feels weird visually

Alphabet's Hard

00:00:546 (1,2,3,4) - Here Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V but 00:02:323 (1,2,3,4) - here Ctrl+J on the 2nd circle+slider. Feels inconsistent visually so maybe 00:00:546 (1,2) - Ctrl+J this one?

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2018-01-28T00:48:21+00:00

FruityEnLoops wrote:
M4M return
General
Difficulties end time is not consistent: The difference between other diffs and mentai's diff is the spinner, but besides that everything ends at 01:04:545 (1) - there aren't any other strong notes worth mapping after this due to the fade-out, which is why I feel this ending isn't inconsistent/
01:04:545 - Mentai's Normal
01:08:101 - Other diffs
Double green lines on Ultimatum diff (check AIMod) Fixed
AIBat also reports a lot of unsnapped sliders. I saw those when I checked it myself a while back b4 I made the 2 green lines. Everything looks fine, but to be safe I re-snapped all the notes.
AIBat Report
Snapping
00:11:657 (3) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
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00:58:545 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
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00:58:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
00:58:768 (1) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
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00:58:990 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
These may be wrong as you use 1/8, but eh idk, just pasting it here.

Applies to all diffs

00:00:546 - Maybe you could add some impact to this. Maybe hitsound volume change? I think it's okay, as there is no other sampleset hitsound applied to the other three sliders, so the finish by itself already provides the impact.

Ultimatum

00:22:545 (1,2,3,4,1) - This goes for every pattern ; They flow good but they look misaligned. 1/8 also feels uh, overmapped? I don't know, adding 270bpm streams while the diff is 4.7* is weird. Im not sure what about the stream looks misaligned. Relative to what note / angle does this note look misaligned? While generally it's not convenient to map 270bpm streams in a map under 5* combined with the low OD it should be playable for the short amount of time it lasts.
00:09:768 (3,6) - Not properly parallel It looks okay to me, but maybe I'm missing something. Could you explain how to fix it?
00:17:545 (6,1,2) - ^
00:23:212 (1,2) - Overlap? Why? The first pair of 1/16 reverse sliders were overlapped because I didn't want to throw 1/8 spacing out of no where at the player, but at the same time I wanted to gradually amp the difficulty along with the kiai to keep this part engaging to play. I thought the overlap fit here because of that concept.

Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2018-01-28T11:06:40+00:00

@FruityEnLoops sure why not

osu file format v14

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blobdash

912 posts

Joined April 2016

blobdash 2018-01-28T18:07:21+00:00

@Bubblun :
https://i.imgur.com/e5RrFsE.png this is what I was talking about. it's minor tho

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2018-01-29T01:18:07+00:00

Lafayla wrote:
[Ultimatum]

00:12:768 (2) - doing a ctrl g on this would be nice, it wouldn't break the concept either because you do something similar with 00:17:879 (1,2) - and 00:19:657 (1,2) - I feel the patterns are okay as is because the directions are for more of an aesthetic. The actual part you click is still similar, so it's not inconsistent.
will players be okay with accurately hitting 00:26:323 (1,2,1,2) - ? i got alpha to testplay it a few times and he couldn't get a combo while trying to hit them at all because of the tiny hit window (he could just be bad xd) but i also couldn't combo them, to top it off hitting 00:27:212 (1) - is even greater of a struggle. just seems like playability is very harsh I think it's okay as the hitwindow is meant to be tight since there really wouldn't be much of a challenge of it was all consistent density and snappings.
00:27:545 (2,1,2) - i find this extremely difficult to read, this is pretty subjective though tbh I feel the reading gimmick makes this pattern even more snappy to play, which fits because of the emphasized clicks where you highlighted.
kiai volumes to be pretty loud, a bit painful I think it's okay. I keep everything at 100% to make sure the volume is balanced.
double check your inherited timing points, 2 of them are on 00:32:545 - fixed

GoodLuck

Thanks for the mod

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2018-01-29T01:28:56+00:00

Lafayla wrote:
[notice]Not placeholder anymore

[Mentai's Normal]

right off the bat, why such contrast in slider shapes 00:00:546 (1,2) - if for aesthetics please change because subjective but vertical wave sliders are meh two interesting sounds get two interesting sliders
00:12:990 (1) - moving it up a bit while keeping same ds would make visual spacing cuter, however; i disagree that visually you should have objects in different parts of the timeline so close to eachother since most players at this level suck at reading and instead will reccomend something like [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10106905]this] but this occurs many times throughout this difficulty so I won't say anything else about it i'm pretty confident simple geometry won't kill the player, it's a triangle that i've done in similar ranked normals of mine
00:56:768 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - this chain is very long, i would suggest leaving some breathing room around 00:59:879 (2) - you're right, although i made the break earlier
00:28:323 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - similar to what i mentioned above, i know 135 bpm isn't alot but considering its the lowest difficulty in the set I don't really agree that players should have to chain this long considering most other rhythms are 3 objects maximum done as above
00:33:657 (2) - did you get trapped here? this overlap is pretty messy considering everything else in this difficulty is pretty clean, i think 00:30:768 (1,2) - are the objects mainly trapping you here, adjusting their placements will help you clean this up snaking sliders + AR make it fine, i did testing on the map to make sure any of the placement overlaps i did were fine, and this one is pretty inconsequential

thank you!

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Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2018-01-29T01:42:14+00:00

Lafayla wrote:
Not placeholder anymore

[HC's Insane]

00:09:212 (8,4) - noticable overlap in gameplay which doesn't look too pretty idk looks alright to me
up until here > 00:21:879 - and later on in the diff , aside from a couple of placements, almost all objects are in the bottom right margin D: its not really a "problem" just feels a bit constricted meanwhile left playfield recieves close to no attention i see what u mean, but it isnt a huge deal
00:19:657 (6,7) - adjusting these so that 00:20:768 (3) - can overlap 00:19:879 (7) - would fix this minor overlap would break visual spacing between (1), (2) and (3), the overlap is not that noticeable either
personal opinion> 00:57:323 (5) - stacking this on the head in this case makes it quite a reading challenge, making this clean by placing anywhere around 331,351 or something would make this more readable, also gives better emphasis for 00:57:434 (1) - ok, fixed the other one too

GoodLuck

FruityEnLoops wrote:
M4M return
HC's Insane

00:12:212 (5,1) - Non proper stack (don't forget to restack 00:13:990 (4,6) - and everything else) fixed
00:19:879 (7) - Maybe stack 7 with 00:18:657 (2) - and it'd give something like this (move 6 too) https://i.imgur.com/zwybaTH.jpg ok,
but made it a slightly improper stack to account for visual spacing (pretty much unnoticeable in gameplay)
00:39:657 (1,2) - Blanket seems off. made it nicer
00:49:545 (4,5,6) - Not the same blanket spacing, feels weird visually k should be better now

update

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Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2018-01-29T11:26:02+00:00

updated both

Chalwa

1,105 posts

Joined August 2014

Chalwa 2018-01-29T17:25:23+00:00

fixed everything except this one point in Lafayla's mod:
00:18:990 (1,2) - too close, appears as 1/4 when actually 1/2
That's true, but there's a quiet sound in the backgroung of song, so it['s not overmaped. I've mad ethat, cause for rhythm it's much greater than when yu'll put just 1/2

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tyty

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Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2018-01-30T08:55:56+00:00

updated

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2018-01-31T20:31:22+00:00

Hello Bubblun !

[General]

Background are ok, the only thing thats hurt me is the fact the BG is 1.1mb, this is a lot even for a jpg imagem. here the bg with the same quality and with 280kbps now
MP3 ok
I think the gap of the normal to hard its GREAT, u should see the possibility of a advanced in the set, even that , there 2 hard, and the gap each others its 0.50..., its strange the spread. My recommend: Buff normal or add a advanced diff in something like 2.35~2.55

[Mentai's Normal]

00:24:323 - i don't like how u ignore that beat , he is so evident that the fact of being ignored makes the patten 00:24:545 (2,3) - weird. Since its a normal, u can just put a single circle 00:24:323 - in the way that not need a hotfix or anything, just a click xD. And also, don't have problem because u prepared the player with 00:16:323 (3,1) - and even 00:21:879 (1,2) - prepare to. This happen here to 00:52:768 - .

This happen similar in 00:26:101 - to, but here its not soo evident the song so i belive u can let then like u made.
00:27:212 (1,2) - [color=#0000FF] Here you follow good, i like xD/color]
00:28:990 (1,2,3) - i don't feel if is good to do a differentiation here, for me, seems like u want to do different from 00:21:879 (1,2,3) - , u can do a slider but with a different shape, that serves as differentiation to(if you agree with that, i will let to you with the shapes xD) . The same point here 00:57:434 (1,2,3) - .

Good easy, safe , my points are more aesthetic to, the rhythm its good xD/i]

[Alphabet's Hard]

00:08:545 (3) - i don't know the purpose of that slider, okay, follow the drum in the music, but this 00:07:657 (1,2) - follow the [i]'laser' sounds, this seems like u decide to ignore just to follow a drum thats don't ever evident in the music.

If me, i would move one tick the 00:08:657 (3) - (to follow the 'laser' sounds) and let the 00:08:990 (4) - close to the 00:08:657 (3) - (example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10146999)

Or if you want to preserve that drum, i can do the same ^ but will add a note here 00:08:545 (3) - in the white tick(the drum tick xD) , theres no problem for a double to cuz i have made a lot before xD

This happen in the rest of the map, so i don't want to timestamp all, so i will stop here, if you explain here all the purpose of these 'now i follow laser, now i follow drum' i will do a recheck for u diff.

[Chalwa's Light Insane]

Wow nice diff, to be since i don't found nothing to say, the all diff its in the mapper's purpose and no one wrong ideias in my see... good job xD

[HC's Insane]

00:32:990 (3) - these kinda of slider its so sudden, yeah, u follow the song correctly, but more than that, u do 2 of the same type in 00:34:768 (3,4) - , this kinda of sliders its hard to play and easy to miss, even the diff is 4.6... i recommend to do one long slider like u made here 00:32:990 (3) to all moments like 00:34:768 (3,4) - and 00:35:657 (8,9) - or do a stream like 00:07:212 (1,2,3,4) - . The same points here 01:03:212 (3,4) - 01:04:101 (8,9) -

[Ultimatum]

00:32:545 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - its like the one moment of your map that i dislike, u follow all '00:29:379 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ' sound making the most different map of the set, and the best moment of this part (00:32:101 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ) u decide to follow the 'laser' sounds ? there's a purpose greater than the '00:29:379 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - ' sound to follow the lasers back ? The same point here 01:00:545 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) -

Rest is good

Good map, i like to much the ideia of follow the '00:25:768 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1) - ' sound. If you want , i can do a recheck before mod application.

Sorry if appears rude my mod, thats not my intention

Last edited by Ataraxia 2018-01-31T22:03:50+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2018-01-31T21:24:08+00:00

Ataraxia wrote:
Hello Bubblun !

[HC's Insane]

00:32:990 (3) - these kinda of slider its so sudden, yeah, u follow the song correctly, but more than that, u do 2 of the same type in 00:34:768 (3,4) - , this kinda of sliders its hard to play and easy to miss, even the diff is 4.6... i recommend to do one long slider like u made here 00:32:990 (3) to all moments like 00:34:768 (3,4) - and 00:35:657 (8,9) - or do a stream like 00:07:212 (1,2,3,4) - . The same points here 01:03:212 (3,4) - 01:04:101 (8,9) - this should be fine, it flows well and to me, it is not very hard to play
Sorry if appears rude my mod, thats not my intention don't worry, it did not appear rude

Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2018-01-31T21:29:59+00:00

Ataraxia wrote:
[Alphabet's Hard]

00:08:545 (3) - i don't know the purpose of that slider, okay, follow the drum in the music, but this 00:07:657 (1,2) - follow the 'laser' sounds, this seems like u decide to ignore just to follow a drum thats don't ever evident in the music.

If me, i would move one tick the 00:08:657 (3) - (to follow the 'laser' sounds) and let the 00:08:990 (4) - close to the 00:08:657 (3) - (example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10146999)

Or if you want to preserve that drum, i can do the same ^ but will add a note here 00:08:545 (3) - in the white tick(the drum tick xD) , theres no problem for a double to cuz i have made a lot before xD

This happen in the rest of the map, so i don't want to timestamp all, so i will stop here, if you explain here all the purpose of these 'now i follow laser, now i follow drum' i will do a recheck for u diff. I get where you're coming at but for a hard, I think it's a little too complex. Constantly using off-beat rhythms to suit the synth also kinda ruins the spread between the normal since it's supposed to introduce 1/4 and other snapping when also using 1/2 to a more extent, also making it become too much like Chalwa's Light Insane. It can essentially be considered filler rhythm due to the snapping coming to a compromise between the drums and the synth, so it still makes sense whilst being more friendly towards newer players.

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2018-01-31T22:27:17+00:00

Ataraxia wrote:
[Mentai's Normal]

00:24:323 - i don't like how u ignore that beat , he is so evident that the fact of being ignored makes the patten 00:24:545 (2,3) - weird. Since its a normal, u can just put a single circle 00:24:323 - in the way that not need a hotfix or anything, just a click xD. And also, don't have problem because u prepared the player with 00:16:323 (3,1) - and even 00:21:879 (1,2) - prepare to. This happen here to 00:52:768 - .remember that this is a lowest diff normal, i must include 1/1 breaks where i can to break up long 1/2 chains. thus i believe this is a better rhythm because i can emphasize the melody AND the drums here 00:24:545 (2,3) -

This happen similar in 00:26:101 - to, but here its not soo evident the song so i belive u can let then like u made.
00:27:212 (1,2) - Here you follow good, i like xD
00:28:990 (1,2,3) - i don't feel if is good to do a differentiation here, for me, seems like u want to do different from 00:21:879 (1,2,3) - , u can do a slider but with a different shape, that serves as differentiation to(if you agree with that, i will let to you with the shapes xD) . The same point here 00:57:434 (1,2,3) - . in a normal diff, i think rhythm should be consitent but the way it is played is unique or interesting since everything is DSd and can become boring. thus higher level slider ideas, patterning, etc, is reserved for insane+ because you can really make a map revolve around those ideas, while i am just making a diff for beginners.

however i did fix the slider a bit to make it play nicer

Good easy, safe , my points are more aesthetic to, the rhythm its good xD

thank you ~

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Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2018-02-02T15:39:07+00:00

Ataraxia wrote:
Hello Bubblun !

[General]

Background are ok, the only thing thats hurt me is the fact the BG is 1.1mb, this is a lot even for a jpg imagem. here the bg with the same quality and with 280kbps now Wow this looks good. Thanks.
I think the gap of the normal to hard its GREAT, u should see the possibility of a advanced in the set, even that , there 2 hard, and the gap each others its 0.50..., its strange the spread. My recommend: Buff normal or add a advanced diff in something like 2.35~2.55
You're right. I'll decide how I'll go about fixing this later though. Good catch xp

[Ultimatum]

00:32:545 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - its like the one moment of your map that i dislike, u follow all '00:29:379 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ' sound making the most different map of the set, and the best moment of this part (00:32:101 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ) u decide to follow the 'laser' sounds ? there's a purpose greater than the '00:29:379 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - ' sound to follow the lasers back ? The same point here 01:00:545 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - You're not wrong, but how I map rhythm is I don't simply focus on 1 layer. I tend to map multiple layers at once as I feel you can make more interesting rhythm that way. 00:32:545 (1) - the NEEEOOOOWW sound goes away, so I stopped using the reverses to compliment that.

Rest is good

Good map, i like to much the ideia of follow the '00:25:768 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1) - ' sound. If you want , i can do a recheck before mod application.
Sorry if appears rude my mod, thats not my intention

Updated diff @Mentai

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Neta 2018-02-27T08:02:41+00:00

Hey M4M here

01:04:657 (1) - reduce spinner's volume here like chalwa's? it's song's end and sounds loud for me

[Alphabet's Hard]

00:28:990 (1,1) - these part sounds unnatural and empty for me, suggesting 00:29:434 - , 00:31:212 - add notes here and make 00:31:434 (2) - to slider ending on 00:31:657 (00:50:768 -, 00:54:323 -, 00:57:879 - same opinion)

[Chalwa's light insane]

00:03:879 (6) - idk if there's difference with former rhythm but i think delete this one sounds better
00:05:323 (3) - i suggest to make this slider end 00:05:323 (3) - and add note on 00:05:323 (3) - so rhythm goes perfect

[HC's Insane]

00:35:212 (5) - , 01:03:657 (5) - i think these two needs NC confusing to read when play

Normal looks great and idk about top diff looks like nothing wrong, i can't even play those repeat sliders properly lol

Net0

1,238 posts

Joined October 2014

Net0 2018-03-01T22:45:27+00:00

m4m

[

Mentai's Normal]

00:07:212 (4,1,2) - I usually don't recommend this type of gap usage in lowest diff. You're going from 1/1 gap to 3/4 gap followed by a 1/2 gap here 00:08:657 (2,3) - . It follows the song perfectly but can be a bit too hard. Not sure since rules for the lower diff changed but yeah, just make sure to check with a higher up person that this is fine.
00:07:657 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Imo you can actually simplify NC here and make this 4 parts into 2 parts like this; 00:07:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - . It will help build up intensity for this section; 00:21:879 - when the NC's on every big white tick makes more sense since the song is constantly changing.

[

Alphabet's Hard]

Your rhythm is currently undermapping the main melody here 00:08:545 (3) - on the blue tick 00:08:657 - . This simplification would work if the normal diff didn't actually mapped it, but since Mentai made a rhythm that made it clickable, it makes a lot of sense that hard would also do it. You can actually make a reverse here 00:08:545 (3) - so instead of https://puu.sh/zyxsX.png you can have this rhythm https://puu.sh/zyxuS.png that would still make the beat clickable but also map the melody or you can make it a denser rhythm like this https://puu.sh/zyxxj.png making both sounds clickable.
Why are you using a 5% inherinted point here 00:10:045 - ? I'm really curious lol . Also some inherinted points are not on snap, stuff like 11731 is really off.
Would probably be better to introduce 1/8 rhythm in the next diff, 00:35:657 (7) - the previous diff barelly had anything on 1/4 and your diff works as way to introduce this rhythn density, at least imo.
So in general, just fix the green lines.

[

Chalwa's Light Insane]

What's the point of the NC here 00:04:101 (1,2,1) - on 00:04:545 (1) - ? It seems like 00:04:101 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - would work better imo.
All the strong melody sounds 00:07:990 - /00:08:323 - /00:08:657 - are being mapped with the sliderends while 00:07:768 (2,4) - follows a somewhat moderate sound and 00:08:101 (3) - a main beat. Are you sure about this rhythm choice? If you check how you mapped this similar section 00:11:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - you made all the sounds I mentioned clickable 00:11:545 (3) -/00:11:879 (1) - /00:12:212 (3) - and it follows the song way better. Instead of https://puu.sh/zyy7X.png try this; https://puu.sh/zyyaa.png
Could be really risky to pick this rhythm for this difficulty 01:04:101 (1,2,3,4,1) - . Some people might question if a 1/8 sliderstream really fits this diff considering this isn't even Insane diff yet.

[

HC's Insane]

I don't think this is 1/8 at all 00:32:990 (3) - . Considering the song has actually 1/8 on it, mapping this with 1/8 without representing anything on the song while other stuff like 00:35:657 (8,9) - actually map 1/8 seems a bit off. You could map that sound on the back using another technique, such as a high sv slider, unusual shape, etc.

[

Ultimatum]

I think this will be really hard to read as an actually 1/8 stream 00:22:545 (1,2,3,4,1) - . My reason for saying it it's mostly because of how you handled 1/4 before on some parts of the diff like; 00:17:434 (5,6) - which is pretty similar distance wise to 00:16:879 (3,4) - that is actually on 1/8, there's also the stack here 00:20:101 (1,2) - .

Someting not as much as mod but mostly advice/mapping comment; you could use a better hitsound compared to the default ones. There are some important kicks on the song and listening drum tom in its place when the song is mostly oriented to eletronic is kinda weird to me. But yeah, you can use it no problem, it's just a matter of taste I'd say.
Very interesting song to map. There's a lot of dense snaps on it and the mapping used for the top diff really embraced the idea of being a different map. Good job on this set, I wish you best of luck ^^

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2018-03-03T12:03:43+00:00

Just responding to the part of the mod affecting my diff xp

I feel the 1/8 distance is readable, as the distance is about halved if you were to line up the stream with the 1/4 stacks in the editor.

Default hitsounds I think are okay because they capture the feel of the song despite being from non-electronic instruments.

Thanks for checking xpp I'll get the guest mappers to look at the mod too

Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2018-03-08T18:12:10+00:00

@Neta I wanted for that section to feel that way to make it unique to the song (also doing this with slider shapes). Mapping it fully would make it more dense than I would like it to be too

@Net0 The melody isn't really undermapped, just more generalized. Mapping it fully would make it too complex and the difficulty is supposed to be an introduction to the harder rhythm like you said. My diff starts to get the player to learn the 1/4 rhythms and the Light Insane starts to add on to the way I chose to represent the melody.

Also I copied the hitsounds so I'll remove the unnecessary inheriting points, but the rest is fixed

https://alphabooty.s-ul.eu/3UUr6e6e
pls add Venax to tags btw

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2018-03-08T18:23:12+00:00

@net0 i feel like there's a compliment hidden in the first point lol, i think my diff should be fine. it's a rhythm game, not a rhythm-simplifying game

made every NC every 2 white ticks because i like it better that way now

thx

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Net0

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Net0 2018-03-09T02:49:51+00:00

Mentai wrote:
i feel like there's a compliment hidden in the first point lol, i think my diff should be fine. it's a rhythm game, not a rhythm-simplifying game

Venax wrote:
The melody isn't really undermapped, just more generalized. Mapping it fully would make it too complex and the difficulty is supposed to be an introduction to the harder rhythm like you said.

So basically you guys want to keep Normal diff with a more complex rhythm compared to hard? lol
@Venax you're not wrong, but in my mod post I specifically explained why the simplification wouldn't work so well and that's because normal diff mapped the rhythm you're undermapping on the hard diff :/

@Mentai about that; I do believe there's a right way to transition between different rhythm emphasis (switch from white->red->blue) without hurting new players, but that's a subjective matter so you're free to disagree with my suggestion ^^.

Again best of luck with set guys and the re-map on top diff was really nice Bubblun, congratz on that.

Mentai

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Mentai 2018-03-09T08:02:24+00:00

i think this is just simply me and alphabet having 2 different viewpoints on how this song's particular structure should be represented. if i'm not mistaken, my diff hard follows that rhythm nearly the entire time, whuich makes it intuitive quite quickly to play, while alphabet uses a lot more variation, which is a more dynamic experience, suited for a harder diff.

in the end, i think it's ok because of simply how the song itself is structured. if new players can't play my map, they still definitely can't play alphabet's map

Hollow Delta

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Joined March 2015

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Hollow Delta 2018-03-09T08:06:29+00:00

updated both diffs. Thanks Net0

Gaia

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Gaia 2018-03-12T01:52:39+00:00

[general]
offset sounds really off to me, try +20?

[normal]
00:21:879 (1) - no idea why u suddenly starting following up/downbeats starting here, but it's quite unintuitive since the main melody is basically the same yet it plays differently. if you ask me i'd change all the 3/4s into these 1/2 patterns since it's a normal so it's easier for noobs to follow lol
00:57:434 (1) - why'd u stop hsing the claps?

[Hard]
00:02:323 (1,2) - y no copy pasta
00:05:434 (4,1) - this looks like a 1/2 jump tbh (i.e. 00:04:101 (1,2) - ) keep ur spacing consistent plz
00:21:879 (1,2) - theres no need for u to break polarity here, just add a circle so u can map that snare too
00:55:212 (4,5,1) - spacing a bit high
00:56:545 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - 01:01:879 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^ this is a bit of a diffspike too cuz triple
01:02:768 (1,2,3,4) - spacing consistency :S

[light insane]
00:20:212 (2) - not stacked if thats what u wanted lol
00:44:545 (1,1) - doesn't represent the music as well as 00:12:545 (5,6) - imo

[insane]
00:11:545 (2,3) - make these closer for better visual spacing
00:34:768 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:03:212 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - a lot of sharp angles here it's quite a diff spike i think

[v2]
00:19:324 (1) - forgot to silence tail?
00:28:212 (3) - nc here or something? otherwise it looks like they're all consecutive jumps
00:42:211 (2) - silenced circle is unrankable
00:49:324 (2) - ^

gl hf

Cheri

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Joined November 2014

Cheri 2018-03-13T02:15:47+00:00

k after looking at it some more I may not feel okay with this but i'll just point 1 thing out in the lowest difficulty

Mentai's -

Hitsounds volume shouldn't be a constant 50% and should be more similar to the top difficulty because imo the song doesn't call for that - you should use higher hitsounds volumes in the more intenses and lower in more calm sections.

sorry

Hollow Delta

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Hollow Delta 2018-03-15T13:36:27+00:00

Gaia wrote:
[general]
offset sounds really off to me, try +20? It seems okay on my side, though I can ask around for test plays and timing checks to be safe.

[v2]
00:19:324 (1) - forgot to silence tail?
00:28:212 (3) - nc here or something? otherwise it looks like they're all consecutive jumps They're meant to be misguiding to force a snappier movement, but the nc pattern is still fair as it groups together the two pairs based on how they play, so it's not completely ambiguous to how they play.
00:42:211 (2) - silenced circle is unrankable
00:49:324 (2) - ^

gl hf

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