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yaspo
Hi, from my queue!
holy city of redlines

[Golden Fairy]

Overall, I personally don't like some of the rhythms in this difficulty. At times you follow the vocals faithfully, but then you suddenly switch for sounds that don't seem very important.
Variation can be nice, but there needs to be a good reason to use it; one that players and modders can recognise, which I don't feel is often the case here.
I suggest that you go through this map again and see what instrument you're following, and if the variations on rhythm you make are justified.
Your Insane has very similar problems in my opinion, so I suggest you look at that as well.

  1. 00:16:399 (2) - there is a vocal on the end of this slider, which I feel would be better of as a circle instead
    you could turn 00:16:037 (1) - into a 1/2 repeat or a 1/1 slider to make that happen
    I can see that you want some variation in your rhythm, but since you're following the vocals perfectly right before 00:14:591 (1,2,3,4,1) - and after 00:16:760 (3,4,1) - , it really feels as if you randomly switched rhythm for this 1 slider
    same here 00:19:290 (2) -
  2. 00:20:013 (4,5) - I think ctrl + g'ing these notes would work well
    currently the movement is a bit intense http://i.imgur.com/OA8S3Bf.png in comparison with what you already have in this section, while the music implies the opposite, since the vocal line pauses for a moment
  3. 00:28:314 (3,4) - I feel like a 1/2 slider would fit better here, 4 doesn't seem like it falls on an important sound
    it would also better represent the held vocal on 00:28:314 (3) - and help transitioning from vocals to the drum 00:28:678 (5) -
    aside from that, cutting up those jump patterns might better separate this section from the first part of the kiai in terms of rhythmic intensity
    same applies here 00:31:384 (4,5) - 00:34:095 (3,4) -
  4. 00:29:769 (3,4) - while this is mostly fine, be careful with these patterns. The player will most likely try to abuse slider leniency to hit 4 http://i.imgur.com/Vw9O3UW.png
    in cases like this, that might cause the player to sliderbreak, while I don't think that is what you intended
    same applies here 01:16:378 (1,2) -
  5. 00:36:274 (1) - you could try turning this into two 1/2 sliders and remove 00:36:813 (2) -
    this way the drum and high pitched guitar on the sliderend would be brought out more,
    you'd keep the momentum you built up here 00:34:821 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ,
    you wouldn't miss out on the sound here 00:36:453 - ,
    and 00:36:813 (2) - seems like the least important sound in this combo 00:36:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , so a sliderend would be fitting there
  6. 00:45:135 (2) - I feel like a more intense rhythm would be better here, it would be a better buildup towards the stream here 00:46:034 (4,5,6,7,1) -
    you would also avoid skipping on the both guitar and vocals here 00:45:316 -
    something like this could work http://i.imgur.com/Wl3kzcl.png
  7. 00:53:436 (1) - this is really underwhelming for how much there is going on
    I suggest trying a more active rhythm, or at least a 1/2 repeat to represent the difference better
  8. 01:00:677 (7) - it might be interesting to separate this slider visually, since it has a vocal on it while the others don't


Outside of that, this looks like a pretty good set, good luck!
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yaspo wrote:

Hi, from my queue!
holy city of redlines timing check soontm

[Golden Fairy]

Overall, I personally don't like some of the rhythms in this difficulty. At times you follow the vocals faithfully, but then you suddenly switch for sounds that don't seem very important.
Variation can be nice, but there needs to be a good reason to use it; one that players and modders can recognise, which I don't feel is often the case here.
I suggest that you go through this map again and see what instrument you're following, and if the variations on rhythm you make are justified.
Your Insane has very similar problems in my opinion, so I suggest you look at that as well.

  1. 00:16:399 (2) - there is a vocal on the end of this slider, which I feel would be better of as a circle instead
    you could turn 00:16:037 (1) - into a 1/2 repeat or a 1/1 slider to make that happen possible but would make me miss the very obvious sound on 00:16:399 (2) - 's head rn which I also value
    I can see that you want some variation in your rhythm, but since you're following the vocals perfectly right before 00:14:591 (1,2,3,4,1) - and after In the first version of this map it was exactly like you just said, following vocals by using circle + 1/1 slider and it was awfully dull and uninteresting to play so after an Irc with some people I changed some stuff in the first half to not make it so monotonous, I can see the desire to be consistent but be being too consistent isn't fun to play
    00:16:760 (3,4,1) - , it really feels as if you randomly switched rhythm for this 1 slider
    same here 00:19:290 (2) - I wouldn't really call it random when it happens twice on the exact same time in comparison to the downbeats but yeah, same as above
  2. 00:20:013 (4,5) - I think ctrl + g'ing these notes would work well
    currently the movement is a bit intense http://i.imgur.com/OA8S3Bf.png in comparison with what you already have in this section, while the music implies the opposite, since the vocal line pauses for a moment ctrl+g would cause for a really large gap between 00:20:194 (5,1) - which I don't want, also this section has been nerfed to be less harsh and imo your version is alot harsher to play with the really sharp angles
  3. 00:28:314 (3,4) - I feel like a 1/2 slider would fit better here, 4 doesn't seem like it falls on an important sound
    it would also better represent the held vocal on 00:28:314 (3) - and help transitioning from vocals to the drum 00:28:678 (5) -
    aside from that, cutting up those jump patterns might better separate this section from the first part of the kiai in terms of rhythmic intensity
    same applies here 00:31:384 (4,5) - 00:34:095 (3,4) - The sounds of the guitar and drum, especially the guitar get louder at the end of each measure which made me want to reflect that by switching to those and mapping their repretetive nature with back and forths.
    While the last circle is different form the rest in this case 00:28:860 (6) - to show the rhythm switching back to vocals again
  4. 00:29:769 (3,4) - while this is mostly fine, be careful with these patterns. The player will most likely try to abuse slider leniency to hit 4 http://i.imgur.com/Vw9O3UW.png
    in cases like this, that might cause the player to sliderbreak, while I don't think that is what you intended
    same applies here 01:16:378 (1,2) - A sliderbreak can't happen beacause there are no sliderticks inside it for the players to miss on, I might chagne the pattern for reduced slider leniency stuff if it gets brought up again
  5. 00:36:274 (1) - you could try turning this into two 1/2 sliders and remove 00:36:813 (2) -
    this way the drum and high pitched guitar on the sliderend would be brought out more,
    you'd keep the momentum you built up here 00:34:821 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ,
    you wouldn't miss out on the sound here 00:36:453 - , I want to use 1/1 rhythms when focussing on instrumentals in this part so it's consistent with stuff like 00:29:042 (1,2,3,4,1) - which wasn't only meant for the vocals
    If it gets brought up more then I will prob change it to 3/4 + circle as I am not a fan of usign 2 1/2's

    and 00:36:813 (2) - seems like the least important sound in this combo 00:36:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , so a sliderend would be fitting there
  6. 00:45:135 (2) - I feel like a more intense rhythm would be better here, it would be a better buildup towards the stream here 00:46:034 (4,5,6,7,1) -
    you would also avoid skipping on the both guitar and vocals here 00:45:316 -
    something like this could work http://i.imgur.com/Wl3kzcl.png yupyup, did not map the vocal first time round, way better now
    Also changed for the insane
  7. 00:53:436 (1) - this is really underwhelming for how much there is going on
    I suggest trying a more active rhythm, or at least a 1/2 repeat to represent the difference better In the kiai I focus almost all the time on instrumentals so when a part with only a few intrumentals comes by then ofcourse the object density lowers
    Your point is perfectly valid in the way you see the song, when I listen I actually feel a decrease in intensity here beacause the usual instrumentals on the red and white tick fall away
  8. 01:00:677 (7) - it might be interesting to separate this slider visually, since it has a vocal on it while the others don't again like the previous one, the focus is on the instruments and beacause those only change at 01:00:856 (1) - I want the impact to be felt there


Outside of that, this looks like a pretty good set, good luck!
Tbh, most of the points you brought up are valid and I really did not expect this level of modding form someone with that postcount but what it basically comes down to is that I see the song differently which is most obviously noticed at 00:53:436 (1,2,3,4) - where you feel like it gets more intense while I feel it lowers in intensity
Hopefully you understand most of the reasoning I made when mapping it this way and why I did not choose for your options

@aigoh I asked a few people under which a bn for the repeat through a timing point and the general consensus was to change the rhythm used beacause it's actually impossible to snap both reverse and sliderend
removing the point which I thought about also isn't that great an idea
aigoh

gottagof4ast wrote:

@aigoh I asked a few people under which a bn for the repeat through a timing point and the general consensus was to change the rhythm used beacause it's actually impossible to snap both reverse and sliderend
removing the point which I thought about also isn't that great an idea
Makes sense. I changed the rhythm!

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109,6,10615,1,8,0:0:0:0:
211,6,10796,2,0,B|277:22|277:22|343:6,1,136,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,73,11338,2,0,L|480:53,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,129,11700,6,0,P|313:65|343:6,1,136,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,73,12242,2,0,P|419:136|390:196,1,136,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
375,204,12694,1,8,0:3:0:0:
360,212,12784,2,0,L|227:244,1,136,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,220,13326,1,8,0:3:0:0:
143,220,13417,1,4,0:3:0:0:
143,220,13507,2,0,L|93:168,1,68,12|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
205,158,13868,1,8,0:0:0:0:
165,306,14049,1,8,0:0:0:0:
165,306,14591,6,0,L|270:331,1,108.8,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
337,282,15133,1,0,0:0:0:0:
346,363,15314,2,0,L|451:337,1,108.8,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
511,281,15856,1,0,0:0:0:0:
433,255,16037,6,0,P|406:208|412:155,1,108.8,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,76,16579,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,90,16760,2,0,P|332:89|307:80,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,57,17121,2,0,P|224:30|210:6,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,107,17483,6,0,P|120:133|67:125,1,108.8,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
25,57,18025,1,0,0:0:0:0:
106,54,18206,2,0,L|125:161,1,108.8,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
139,241,18748,1,0,0:0:0:0:
170,317,18929,6,0,P|209:280|218:228,1,108.8,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
205,148,19471,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,179,19652,2,0,L|333:183,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,240,20013,2,0,P|388:266|376:291,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,161,20374,6,0,P|396:111|416:61,1,108.8,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
495,33,20917,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,115,21097,2,0,L|371:105,1,108.8,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
291,99,21640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,151,21820,6,0,P|181:177|128:172,1,108.8,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
57,133,22362,1,0,0:0:0:0:
59,215,22543,2,0,P|55:241|60:268,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
134,303,22905,2,0,P|139:329|135:356,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
243,343,23266,6,0,P|292:323|343:338,1,108.8,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,281,23808,2,0,P|453:295|502:276,2,108.8,2|2|0,2:0|2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
415,201,24712,6,0,L|423:147,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
494,107,25073,2,0,L|486:53,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
411,20,25435,1,2,0:0:0:0:
330,31,25605,1,8,0:0:0:0:
298,107,25775,2,0,P|307:133|323:154,1,54.4,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
249,42,26133,6,0,B|144:55|144:55|115:77,1,136,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,139,26678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
131,196,26860,2,0,P|136:229|130:263,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
59,316,27223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
46,229,27405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
130,263,27587,6,0,B|177:271|177:271|218:266|218:266|264:274,1,136,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,288,28133,1,0,0:0:0:0:
422,336,28314,2,0,P|433:305|434:271,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,288,28678,2,0,P|337:319|337:353,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
434,270,29042,6,0,L|417:135,1,136,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
406,46,29587,1,0,0:0:0:0:
489,15,29769,2,0,P|494:48|487:81,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,135,30133,1,8,0:0:0:0:
334,100,30314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
322,10,30496,6,0,L|259:37,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,4,30851,1,8,0:0:0:0:
120,66,31029,1,0,0:0:0:0:
165,144,31206,2,0,L|130:202,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,279,31562,1,8,0:0:0:0:
42,202,31739,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,280,31917,6,0,B|217:302|217:302|258:312|258:312|298:333,1,136,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
390,376,32461,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,380,32643,2,0,P|480:347|465:317,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
454,222,33006,1,8,0:0:0:0:
368,183,33187,1,0,0:0:0:0:
290,240,33369,6,0,B|228:209,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
147,169,33732,1,8,0:0:0:0:
183,89,33913,1,0,0:0:0:0:
267,107,34095,2,0,P|267:72|255:40,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
178,3,34458,1,8,0:0:0:0:
105,51,34640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
147,169,34821,6,0,B|95:213|95:213|28:227,1,136,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,307,35366,2,0,B|33:367,1,68,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,324,35729,2,0,P|144:327|175:341,1,68,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,378,36092,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,340,36274,6,0,P|366:327|400:323,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
479,367,36632,2,0,B|512:307,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
495,220,36994,1,2,0:0:0:0:
412,189,37171,1,8,0:0:0:0:
332,225,37349,2,0,P|324:191|329:158,1,68,8|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
479,132,37706,6,0,B|493:94|493:94|435:42|359:74,1,163.2,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
298,79,38463,2,0,P|274:68|247:64,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,39,38820,2,0,L|116:54,1,54.4,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,76,39157,5,2,0:0:0:0:
36,76,39348,2,0,P|17:126|35:176,1,108.8,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
115,198,39878,2,0,L|219:227,1,108.8,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
298,249,40424,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,313,40606,6,0,P|377:268|371:215,1,108.8,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,134,41154,2,0,L|409:125,1,54.4,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
409,44,41517,2,0,L|355:35,1,54.4
273,22,41879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
198,54,42059,5,2,0:0:0:0:
198,54,42240,2,0,P|145:43|97:66,1,108.8,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
155,122,42782,2,0,P|177:170|167:222,1,108.8,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
97,180,43327,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,284,43509,6,0,P|152:320|232:307,1,163.2,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,279,44231,2,0,L|359:264,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
425,311,44593,2,0,P|449:322|476:326,1,54.4,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,244,44954,5,2,0:0:0:0:
472,244,45135,2,0,L|465:127,1,108.8,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,97,45677,2,0,L|343:129,1,54.4,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
367,205,46034,2,8,L|393:218,2,27.2
264,190,46381,6,0,P|232:198|198:198,1,68,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
113,175,46765,1,8,0:0:0:0:
219,112,46942,2,0,P|156:94|122:37,1,136,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
121,22,47384,1,8,0:0:0:0:
123,9,47465,1,8,0:0:0:0:
277,43,47657,6,0,L|414:38,2,136,6|8|12,0:0|0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
122,37,48549,1,8,0:0:0:0:
42,169,48719,1,8,0:0:0:0:
42,169,49285,6,0,L|30:261,1,68,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
22,324,49649,1,8,0:0:0:0:
99,365,49832,2,0,P|131:374|165:371,2,68,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
141,287,50379,1,8,0:0:0:0:
247,342,50561,6,0,B|295:346|295:346|336:337|336:337|382:341,1,136,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
470,349,51103,1,8,0:0:0:0:
502,264,51286,2,0,P|530:204|510:141,1,136
449,80,51838,1,8,0:0:0:0:
363,103,52014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,167,52190,6,0,P|481:159|509:141,1,68,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
449,80,52538,1,8,0:0:0:0:
363,103,52717,2,0,L|341:16,2,68,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
366,193,53256,1,8,0:0:0:0:
244,262,53436,1,4,0:0:0:0:
164,219,53615,6,0,P|153:186|153:153,1,68,8|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
241,172,53974,1,8,0:0:0:0:
167,310,54136,2,0,P|218:350|285:343,1,136,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
386,280,54691,1,12,0:0:0:0:
459,329,54872,1,0,0:0:0:0:
465,241,55053,6,0,P|464:207|452:175,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
431,88,55413,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,78,55593,2,0,P|342:44|354:12,2,68,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
309,160,56134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
372,246,56314,6,0,P|308:268|245:245,1,136,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,197,56852,1,8,0:0:0:0:
98,148,57031,2,0,P|75:84|97:21,1,136,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
185,8,57570,1,8,0:0:0:0:
259,57,57750,1,8,0:3:0:0:
365,105,57930,6,0,L|448:76,1,68,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,52,58299,1,8,0:0:0:0:
494,171,58484,2,0,B|395:206|395:206|370:234,1,136,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
321,300,59039,1,2,0:0:0:0:
430,374,59224,6,0,L|408:310,1,68,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
321,300,59585,1,8,0:3:0:0:
250,355,59766,2,0,P|217:355|184:345,1,68,8|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
126,280,60131,1,8,0:3:0:0:
60,339,60335,1,4,0:3:0:0:
2,274,60506,2,0,P|1:240|11:207,1,68,8|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
118,115,60856,6,0,L|196:104,1,68,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
233,180,61217,2,0,L|300:189,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,145,61579,2,0,L|443:135,1,68,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,78,61941,1,8,0:0:0:0:
510,194,62114,6,0,P|498:225|497:259,1,68,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
505,348,62481,2,0,L|420:360,1,68,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
378,291,62843,2,0,P|346:279|312:278,1,68,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
258,349,63208,2,0,L|190:358,1,68,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
106,330,63574,1,2,0:0:0:0:
32,379,63755,6,0,P|19:347|19:313,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,245,64118,2,0,P|92:217|100:184,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
35,121,64481,2,0,P|33:88|43:55,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,19,64839,1,8,0:0:0:0:
173,131,65017,1,6,0:0:0:0:
265,144,65197,6,0,P|299:139|329:124,1,68,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
406,79,65553,1,8,0:0:0:0:
491,183,65731,1,6,0:0:0:0:
420,233,65910,2,0,P|407:202|405:169,2,68,8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
501,269,66457,1,2,0:0:0:0:
415,355,66640,6,0,L|347:366,1,68,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,328,67001,2,0,L|211:366,1,68,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,302,67362,2,0,L|84:289,1,68,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,343,67724,1,8,0:0:0:0:
21,227,67905,6,0,P|34:195|34:161,1,68,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,72,68266,2,0,P|60:48|91:35,1,68,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,54,68630,2,0,L|245:45,1,68,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,102,68997,2,0,L|380:93,1,68,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,32,69339,1,0,0:0:0:0:
450,148,69517,6,0,P|446:181|455:214,1,68,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,299,69872,1,8,0:0:0:0:
373,250,70049,2,0,B|327:258|327:258|286:253|286:253|240:261,1,136,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,276,70598,1,8,0:0:0:0:
265,346,70792,6,0,B|311:338|311:338|352:343|352:343|399:335,1,136,0|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
480,299,71337,2,0,L|509:237,1,68,12|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
512,146,71703,1,8,0:3:0:0:
431,184,71877,1,4,0:3:0:0:
438,94,72051,2,0,P|433:60|442:27,1,68,8|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
334,60,72417,6,0,B|257:90|275:55|202:83,1,136,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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202,83,73507,2,0,L|223:153,1,68,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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273,333,74572,2,4,P|280:354|284:376,2,45.3333333333333,4|4|4,0:3|0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
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280,66,76378,2,0,P|212:62|152:31,1,136,4|8,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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6,185,77300,1,12,0:3:0:0:
6,185,77477,2,12,L|26:144,2,45.3333333333333,12|12|12,0:3|0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
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242,174,81998,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,84076,12,0,89408,0:0:0:0:
Rakuen
(◕ᴗ◕✿) Rakuen Diva Trap Modding Queue [osu!standard]

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

Metadata

  1. Change the song title to "Destin Histoire -TV size-" as latest ranked version in 2014 may not be accurate
    Here's your source: http://columbia.jp/prod-info/COCX-36662/

Timing

  1. We don't need that amount of red timing points, try make one with 166 BPM and 120 offset
    I'll still mod based on your original timing since you may not agree with this

Crimmi's Normal

  1. 00:00:134 - Why not map this part too? This is the only diff left out for this part
  2. 01:04:839 (3,4,5) - The vocal's not on 1/2s, probably just cover it with slider from 01:04:481 -

Insane

  1. 00:05:013 - Missed a hit for piano here

Golden Fairy

  1. 00:05:013 - Piano

Everything looks ok except for timing XD

Good luck!
~(=^・ω・^)/。・:*:・゚★,。・:*:・゚☆
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Rakuen wrote:

(◕ᴗ◕✿) Rakuen Diva Trap Modding Queue [osu!standard]

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

Metadata

  1. Change the song title to "Destin Histoire -TV size-" as latest ranked version in 2014 may not be accurate
    Here's your source: http://columbia.jp/prod-info/COCX-36662/ yeah, this one should be more correct ~changed~

Timing

  1. We don't need that amount of red timing points, try make one with 166 BPM and 120 offset
    I'll still mod based on your original timing since you may not agree with this a timing check is coming soon (hopefully) which will make sure that the timing is correct

Insane

  1. 00:05:013 - Missed a hit for piano here mapping the piano here would take away a ton of the emphasis which I want to give to 00:05:194 (1,2) - so I like it more like this

Golden Fairy

  1. 00:05:013 - Piano same thing as above

Everything looks ok except for timing XD

Good luck!
~(=^・ω・^)/。・:*:・゚★,。・:*:・゚☆
Thanks for the mod
Topic Starter
Stack
Also updated Crimmi's Normal which he sent with pm as he doesn't have the time to reply to all the mods individually
Icekalt
Hey~ (Coming from Q)

Most random mod you will see zzzz

[Golden Fairy]
- 00:08:628 (6,1) - from this jumpsection on this flow to the sliderbody isnt really smooth ~
- 00:11:338 (6) - this slider seems very random to me (from the shape) and dont fit in there imo
- 00:12:242 (1,2,3,1) - maybe make that "line" parallel to 00:11:700 (1,2) - like you did at 00:10:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - (rip blanket then)
- 00:13:326 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - i would take another rythm at 00:13:688 (5,6,1) - and not the same as 00:13:326 (2,3,4) -
i know what you want to emphasize but the first triple emphasizes a clearly a 3 drum beat while the other triple a very fading background triple sound
so i would space the 1st triple a bit and let the second triple unspaced
- 00:20:013 (4,5,1) - at 00:20:013 (4,5) - you have a 2,0 DS while 00:20:194 (5,1) - has a shorter DS while it should have a larger one cause new upbeat etc
- 00:24:170 (4,1) - the spacing is a bit too high /surprising for a few players imo
- 00:25:073 (2,3,4) - this feels too high too - my solution that you would put 00:25:254 (3) - on the follow line between 00:25:605 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8687410
- why is the spacing at 00:26:860 (3,4,1) - so little in comparison with the rest
- 00:50:561 (1) - i would suggest you to make a round slider out of it like the rest 1/1 slider in this section (it flows better and consistency)
- 01:06:640 (1) - that would sound a bit stupid but this slider flows too well
- lets see it that way - when such a strong upbeat is coming you mostly turn the slider >90° in comparison with the other jump (00:55:953 (5,6,1) - / 00:50:379 (5,1) - well its like every silder) but this slider isnt turned so heavily (and btw the shape feels random imo)
- 01:02:481 (2,3) - would make the jump in a straight line with the sliderbody
- you mostly did it in other sections like here 01:04:118 (2,3) -
- 01:13:890 (1,2,3) - theese overlaps are looking ugly ~ (sry but i hate this xD)
- 01:17:300 (3) - would NC this (because of changing bpm and different pattern) (idk it would just fit better imo)

~Good luck with you set~ :)
Topic Starter
Stack

IceKalt wrote:

Hey~ (Coming from Q)

Most random mod you will see zzzz

[Golden Fairy]
- 00:08:628 (6,1) - from this jumpsection on this flow to the sliderbody isnt really smooth ~ moved stuff arround and curved slider
- 00:11:338 (6) - this slider seems very random to me (from the shape) and dont fit in there imo normal curve then
- 00:12:242 (1,2,3,1) - maybe make that "line" parallel to 00:11:700 (1,2) - like you did at 00:10:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - (rip blanket then) fixed and still ahve blanket
- 00:13:326 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - i would take another rythm at 00:13:688 (5,6,1) - and not the same as 00:13:326 (2,3,4) -
i know what you want to emphasize but the first triple emphasizes a clearly a 3 drum beat while the other triple a very fading background triple sound
so i would space the 1st triple a bit and let the second triple unspaced Will think about it, I really dislike moving triples and thought the nc would be enough to signify the difference together with the increase in spacing
- 00:20:013 (4,5,1) - at 00:20:013 (4,5) - you have a 2,0 DS while 00:20:194 (5,1) - has a shorter DS while it should have a larger one cause new upbeat etcIt used to be higher but a lot of people complained that this aprt felt too intense beacause of the increase in object density so I made it like it is now
- 00:24:170 (4,1) - the spacing is a bit too high /surprising for a few players imo It's the same as for multiple other downbeats so should be fine
- 00:25:073 (2,3,4) - this feels too high too - my solution that you would put 00:25:254 (3) - on the follow line between 00:25:605 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8687410 Would cause for too large a difference between this and 00:25:605 (1,2,3) - and I can't size that one down or it loses it's intensity
- why is the spacing at 00:26:860 (3,4,1) - so little in comparison with the rest oops should have been 2x
- 00:50:561 (1) - i would suggest you to make a round slider out of it like the rest 1/1 slider in this section (it flows better and consistency) I really like the way it contrasts the rest as the sound is also completely different, aslo another straight slider is used at 00:54:136 (3) -
- 01:06:640 (1) - that would sound a bit stupid but this slider flows too well made the jump larger as changing slider shape would cause it to be really weird for the next jumpsection
- lets see it that way - when such a strong upbeat is coming you mostly turn the slider >90° in comparison with the other jump (00:55:953 (5,6,1) - / 00:50:379 (5,1) - well its like every silder) but this slider isnt turned so heavily (and btw the shape feels random imo) shape fits for me
- 01:02:481 (2,3) - would make the jump in a straight line with the sliderbody If the flow was circular than I probably would have changed it so it would not imply counterclockwise flow but the flow is linear so this is good (also on purpose)
- you mostly did it in other sections like here 01:04:118 (2,3) - made it not in a straight line here for consistency then
- 01:13:890 (1,2,3) - theese overlaps are looking ugly ~ (sry but i hate this xD) If others also complain then I'll maybe change it but it fits the song with the repetetive shapes so keep for now
- 01:17:300 (3) - would NC this (because of changing bpm and different pattern) (idk it would just fit better imo) feels like too many NC's after eachother

~Good luck with you set~ :)
Thanks for the mod
Ametrin
as your req, 2.7* Advanced :3
osu file format v14

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i have no idea about these unsnap in aimod... if possible could you fix it for me? ;-;
also no hitsound since im kinda sleepy now... i'll update it when i reply to mod (pm me if i need change something)
shoot a star (((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))
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Ametrin wrote:

as your req, 2.7* Advanced :3
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i have no idea about these unsnap in aimod... if possible could you fix it for me? ;-;
also no hitsound since im kinda sleepy now... i'll update it when i reply to mod (pm me if i need change something)
shoot a star (((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))
Thanks for the GD :), fixed unsnaps and added hs from the other diff
Ringer
hi, M4M from your queue
General


?? These timing points

Golden Fairy


00:21:097 (3) - can blanket 00:21:820 (1) - a bit more (it's not perfect)
00:25:435 (4,1) - swap NC
00:46:294 (8) - move to 364/88 ?
00:57:930 (1,2,3) - space the stream a bit more ?
01:22:359 (1) - start it at 01:22:540 - instead ?

Insane


00:36:994 (3,1) - blanket ?
00:58:484 (4) - shape could be prettier (not curvy enough imo)
01:15:857 (2,4) - blanket could be better
01:22:359 (1) - start it at 01:22:540 - instead ?

aigoh's Hard


HS are a bit loud ?
01:22:359 (1) - shape can be clearly better (to blanket more 01:23:444 (2) - for example)

Ametrin's Advanced


00:04:471 (1) - end it at 00:05:194 instead of 00:05:374
00:31:739 - Note here like before?
01:11:703 (6) - Avoid doing that on advanced

Crimmi's Normal


00:04:290 (3,4) - why not doing like 00:01:399 (3,4) - for example ?
00:12:784 (4) - blanket is off
00:14:591 (1) - blanket is off
00:16:037 (3) - blanket could be a bit better
00:27:587 (3) - blanket is off
00:29:042 (1) - ^
00:47:657 (3) - that whistle is not enjoyable
00:51:470 (5) - curve that one a bit more to blanket more, prettier
00:55:413 (2) - blanket
00:59:224 (3) - blanket (not sure about this one as yours seems good too, curve it a bit more around the approach circle maybe)
01:16:920 (2,3) - maybe a bit hard for beginners ?

Not much more to say, hope it helps, nice map tho :)
Topic Starter
Stack

Ringer wrote:

hi, M4M from your queue
General


?? These timing points I will be changing timing soon to a better one by Goldenwolf

Golden Fairy


00:21:097 (3) - can blanket 00:21:820 (1) - a bit more (it's not perfect) wasn't really meant to be a blanket and its really far so it doesn't really matter
00:25:435 (4,1) - swap NC The sound drastically changes on 00:25:605 (1) - so I wanted the nc there
00:46:294 (8) - move to 364/88 ? I get what you meant bu moved it somewhere else or the ds would be inconsistent
00:57:930 (1,2,3) - space the stream a bit more ? Don't really see a reason to do that its already spaced wnough
01:22:359 (1) - start it at 01:22:540 - instead ? has probably changed between these 2 positions about 4 times now so I am kjeeping it here and saying its preference

Insane


00:36:994 (3,1) - blanket ? yup
00:58:484 (4) - shape could be prettier (not curvy enough imo) I really don't want it curvier, I tired and don't really like it
01:15:857 (2,4) - blanket could be better looks on point to me
01:22:359 (1) - start it at 01:22:540 - instead ? same as the other diff
Not much more to say, hope it helps, nice map tho :)
Thanks for the mod :)
Mazziv
hey,i dont have much time and i try to do as much as i can so sorry if its short D;


[Normal]

00:10:796 (4,2,3) - idk why you chose to overlap this,i mean it doesnt effect gameplay but it just doesnt look clean
00:33:369 (3) - why a reverse slider here instead of the usual 2 1/2?`
00:37:706 (1) - why dont copy paste this slider? 00:39:157 (2) -
00:51:470 (5) - mimimi blanket
01:04:839 (3,4,5) - what are you trying to follow here? i think you should try the slider rhythm which you used before here again


[Hard]
00:25:435 (1,2,3) - maybe emphasize this with a bigger spacing since the music gets loud
01:16:378 (3,1) - this seems a bit too close even doe you end at the slidertail of 3 it looks visually too close
i really like this diff! simple and clean

[Insane]
00:09:531 (3,4,5,1) - the slider going upwards kills the flow imo maybe change it
Crimmi

Ringer wrote:

Crimmi's Normal


00:04:290 (3,4) - why not doing like 00:01:399 (3,4) - for example ?
00:12:784 (4) - blanket is off
00:14:591 (1) - blanket is off
00:16:037 (3) - blanket could be a bit better
00:27:587 (3) - blanket is off
00:29:042 (1) - ^
00:47:657 (3) - that whistle is not enjoyable
00:51:470 (5) - curve that one a bit more to blanket more, prettier
00:55:413 (2) - blanket
00:59:224 (3) - blanket (not sure about this one as yours seems good too, curve it a bit more around the approach circle maybe)
01:16:920 (2,3) - maybe a bit hard for beginners ?

Not much more to say, hope it helps, nice map tho :)
Hmm okay, i'll post soon.
aigoh

Ringer wrote:

HS are a bit loud ? Fixed to soft sampleset!
01:22:359 (1) - shape can be clearly better (to blanket more 01:23:444 (2) - for example) I like it this way. Sorry :'(

Mazziv wrote:

00:25:435 (1,2,3) - maybe emphasize this with a bigger spacing since the music gets loud There is slight difference in increased spacing, so I don't want to change anything. I did it to keep down the star rating.
01:16:378 (3,1) - this seems a bit too close even doe you end at the slidertail of 3 it looks visually too close Tried something else
i really like this diff! simple and clean Thanks :D

Thanks for mods guys! :D

Hey Fast, can you delete normal-hitwhistle11, then change my normal sampleset to soft? For example:
normal-hitclap --> soft-hitclap
normal-hitwhistle --> soft-hitwhistle


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Noobie me used the normal sampleset hahah
Ametrin

Ringer wrote:

hi, M4M from your queue

Ametrin's Advanced


00:04:471 (1) - end it at 00:05:194 instead of 00:05:374
00:31:739 - Note here like before?
01:11:703 (6) - Avoid doing that on advanced

Not much more to say, hope it helps, nice map tho :)
all fixed
osu file format v14

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Topic Starter
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updated, will do the hitsound thingie later as I don't have that much time now
Sinnoh
late mod
the advanced is cool

General
Ranking criteria needs you to normalise the slider velocities on normal/advanced/hard. Doing top diffs would be a good idea too but that's optional. basically what I mean from pishi
http://zardoru.github.io/sv-tools/ - use the second tool to save a couple hours
00:13:326 (2,3,4) - timing is off. If needed, use a reverse slider instead of triple if you think the bpm change might be hard to read.
01:00:127 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - These hitsounds are too quiet

Expert
00:00:134 (1) - This section could just be all circles, would reflect piano better + harder than insane + allows for more interesting spacing variation
00:13:688 (5,6,1) - Stronger emphasis on 1 with this pattern, since not really mapped rn

00:14:591 (1) - This section should be low spacing, but I think this is too low spacing for top diff. Using 1.7x distance snap would be much better
00:26:133 (1) - Same thing, but SV could be raised a little, too small compared to jumps. 00:05:917 (1) - Has smaller jumps in general, but has identical SV. Both of these issues are hard to fix, but they would really improve flow/playability
00:25:946 (3) - Would be way more comfortable to play at 180,320
00:28:133 (2,3,4,5,6) - These jumps map the guitar, but the same guitar isn't even mapped for 00:29:587 (2,3) - . Would suggest to decrease spacing on the jumps, or to map more guitar on the easier parts so that it can be a little more consistent with each other.
00:36:813 (2,3,4,5,6) - + reducing the jumps on the previous point would increase emphasis on these drums, since they have almost same spacing as guitar before, but have crescendo.
00:39:157 (1) - Compare timeline to 00:44:954 (1,2) - , be consistent with mapping that drum because it's a unique part
00:46:942 (3,4,5,6,1) - Really hard to play this, partially because of timing, but part because the patterns here are kinda weird. 00:46:942 (3,1) - Remove overlap since none was introduced really, so not ideal to do at a hard point.
00:47:657 (1) - I feel like this could almost be a 3/4 slider, it would make playing 00:48:018 (2,3,4) - easier because 1/4 gap is smaller and easier to read when guessing weird bpm.
00:48:549 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/x87mZ/efdfc7a3ce.png Try playing this pattern, it's a lot easier to read that 2,3 is a 1/1 gap this way + 1 still has sufficient emphasis because the position is wider angle
00:49:649 (2,3) - ctrl-g would have better rhythm to avoid vocals on slider ends
00:50:379 (5,1) - Don't really need this much angle emphasis,
01:00:856 (1) - Try rotating this -35 degrees, current angle you need to kind of go out of the way to do the slider body
01:02:114 (1) - I'm kinda getting the feeling that while most of these straight 1/2 sliders are symmetrical with each other, almost all of them are on different angles. I would suggest making stuff like 01:03:755 (1,2) - and the rest of the 1/2s more similar to each other. Fewer kinds of angles used would improve aesthetic consistency.
01:16:378 (1) - Extending this slider + deleting 01:16:920 (2) - might be an option. Removes unmapped slider end + makes reading next section easier with 1/1 gap. That or make it clear 01:16:378 (1,2) - is 1/2 by pointing slider end at it
01:17:300 (3,4,5,6,7) - There's a lot of unmapped drum here :/
01:18:193 (8) - Making these slider arts might be an idea here, maps the extra hi hat sounds on tail + guitar is held sound so makes more sense.

applying some of the general things to the other diffs would be dandy

Insane
00:05:917 (1) - holy cow this section is way clearer on what it's following compared to top diff. Maybe try removing the 3/4 sliders on top diff and ask someone if they think it's following the song's rhythm better. Right now Insane is really easy to understand.
00:25:946 (3,1) - Yeah general thing is that putting sliders at this angle from a jump is really hard to do. Putting 3 on the left side of 00:25:605 (1) - would fix it, but that's just one case here. should be a general thing to fix. Like, compare to 00:28:860 (6,1) - is much easier. Less emphasis but less stressful to play
00:48:549 (1,2,3) - again, really hard to read 1/1 since spacing is similar to previous section's 1/2 jumps
00:53:256 (4,1,2,3) - compare emphaisis on two finishes, second one is much weaker. Use larger distance or angle or something
01:09:162 (6,7,1) - bit too jumpy, could nerf a little
Topic Starter
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Sinnoh wrote:

late mod
the advanced is cool

General
Ranking criteria needs you to normalise the slider velocities on normal/advanced/hard. Doing top diffs would be a good idea too but that's optional. basically what I mean from pishi
http://zardoru.github.io/sv-tools/ - use the second tool to save a couple hours I will be changing the timing soon so I'll fix this after thats done
00:13:326 (2,3,4) - timing is off. If needed, use a reverse slider instead of triple if you think the bpm change might be hard to read.^
01:00:127 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - These hitsounds are too quietIll fix this laso after timing stuff as I would otherwise have to do some parts twice

Expert
00:00:134 (1) - This section could just be all circles, would reflect piano better + harder than insane + allows for more interesting spacing variation I don't want to up the object density too much so I tried to make it so that the downbeat stood out beacause it was a reverse, I tried circles only at first but it didn't work for me (maybe beacause I mapped it bad back then but still)
00:13:688 (5,6,1) - Stronger emphasis on 1 with this pattern, since not really mapped rn Ill apply it on this diff for know but am not that big a fan of how 00:13:326 (2,3,5,6) - are the same sounds but mapped differently

00:14:591 (1) - This section should be low spacing, but I think this is too low spacing for top diff. Using 1.7x distance snap would be much better I'll think about it as I dont really see the problem of the ds being so low
00:26:133 (1) - Same thing, but SV could be raised a little, too small compared to jumps. 00:05:917 (1) - Has smaller jumps in general, but has identical SV. Both of these issues are hard to fix, but they would really improve flow/playability upping the sv here would cause almost no difference between the sv here and that in the kiai time and I honestly want to prioritize the intensity change there more
00:25:946 (3) - Would be way more comfortable to play at 180,320 ok
00:28:133 (2,3,4,5,6) - These jumps map the guitar, but the same guitar isn't even mapped for 00:29:587 (2,3) - . Would suggest to decrease spacing on the jumps, or to map more guitar on the easier parts so that it can be a little more consistent with each other. The guitar is only the focus in the last half of each downbeat section(?) as it gets way louder there, while in the first half the vocals imo overpower the guitar completely and mapping the guitar there would feel more like ignoring the vocals
00:36:813 (2,3,4,5,6) - + reducing the jumps on the previous point would increase emphasis on these drums, since they have almost same spacing as guitar before, but have crescendo. imo the cresendo is actually mapped correctly beacause the ds gets alot bigger alot more quickly at the end with the last jump 00:37:527 (6,1) - having 5x ds while the previous ones max out a t 3,2x
00:39:157 (1) - Compare timeline to 00:44:954 (1,2) - , be consistent with mapping that drum because it's a unique part yup, my bad fixed now
00:46:942 (3,4,5,6,1) - Really hard to play this, partially because of timing, but part because the patterns here are kinda weird. 00:46:942 (3,1) - Remove overlap since none was introduced really, so not ideal to do at a hard point.
00:47:657 (1) - I feel like this could almost be a 3/4 slider, it would make playing 00:48:018 (2,3,4) - easier because 1/4 gap is smaller and easier to read when guessing weird bpm.
00:48:549 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/x87mZ/efdfc7a3ce.png Try playing this pattern, it's a lot easier to read that 2,3 is a 1/1 gap this way + 1 still has sufficient emphasis because the position is wider angle
00:49:649 (2,3) - ctrl-g would have better rhythm to avoid vocals on slider ends
00:50:379 (5,1) - Don't really need this much angle emphasis,
01:00:856 (1) - Try rotating this -35 degrees, current angle you need to kind of go out of the way to do the slider body
01:02:114 (1) - I'm kinda getting the feeling that while most of these straight 1/2 sliders are symmetrical with each other, almost all of them are on different angles. I would suggest making stuff like 01:03:755 (1,2) - and the rest of the 1/2s more similar to each other. Fewer kinds of angles used would improve aesthetic consistency.
01:16:378 (1) - Extending this slider + deleting 01:16:920 (2) - might be an option. Removes unmapped slider end + makes reading next section easier with 1/1 gap. That or make it clear 01:16:378 (1,2) - is 1/2 by pointing slider end at it
01:17:300 (3,4,5,6,7) - There's a lot of unmapped drum here :/
01:18:193 (8) - Making these slider arts might be an idea here, maps the extra hi hat sounds on tail + guitar is held sound so makes more sense.

applying some of the general things to the other diffs would be dandy

Insane
00:05:917 (1) - holy cow this section is way clearer on what it's following compared to top diff. Maybe try removing the 3/4 sliders on top diff and ask someone if they think it's following the song's rhythm better. Right now Insane is really easy to understand.
00:25:946 (3,1) - Yeah general thing is that putting sliders at this angle from a jump is really hard to do. Putting 3 on the left side of 00:25:605 (1) - would fix it, but that's just one case here. should be a general thing to fix. Like, compare to 00:28:860 (6,1) - is much easier. Less emphasis but less stressful to play
00:48:549 (1,2,3) - again, really hard to read 1/1 since spacing is similar to previous section's 1/2 jumps
00:53:256 (4,1,2,3) - compare emphaisis on two finishes, second one is much weaker. Use larger distance or angle or something
01:09:162 (6,7,1) - bit too jumpy, could nerf a little
i'll finish later
Silence1020
From your modding queue. Please note that this is my first mod so take my ideas with a grain of salt :) .

Golden Fairy

00:13:326 (2,3,4) - reduce spacing as it's bigger than the spacing in some of your jump sections
00:19:648 (3,4,5,1) - this doesn't really flow well
00:21:094 (3,4) - curve the slider more or move the circle higher and more to the right to improve flow
00:32:641 (3,4,1) - again, flow. The cursor in this setup makes a reversed '3' and it doesn't really flow well
00:34:449 (5,6,1) - perhaps curve the slider as the player's cursor is moving rapidly down and forming a near right-angle during this fast movement. This isn't very comfortable and can lead to an easy slider break
00:35:172 (2) - unintuitive and uncomfortable
00:37:161 (2,3,4) - perhaps curve this down ever so slightly to improve flow
00:39:149 (5,1) - the previous slider dictates some form of downward movement whilst this is just a straight slider so again I would give a curve
00:39:692 (2,3) - same as above (just this time the previous slider suggests some movement/curve to the left). This would also make the movement to the next slider more natural
00:40:234 (4) - alter the position of the slider tail so it's more directly pointing to the next slider
00:40:596 (1) - perhaps curve the tail (like you did here 00:41:319 (3,4) ) for similar reasons as above
00:43:127 (4,1) - why is the slider leading the player away from the next clickable thing?
00:47:646 (1,2,3) - this doesn't flow well. Maybe try something like this
00:48:550 (1,2) - the angle here seems excessively sharp. Perhaps move the circle more to the left and maybe a bit up
00:56:312 (1) - perhaps change it to something like this (
) so the slider points more in the direction of the next circle.
01:00:486 (6,7) - perhaps give more space so the sliders don't create right-angles and there's more room for circular movement. (
) something like this?
01:07:534 (4,5,1) - perhaps make the angles sharper and move the slider down like this (
)? The sharp angles will make it more similar to the jump section right after.
01:09:341 (8) - perhaps move this a bit down and to the right
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