22:33 Touhou: 617 offset seems better
22:33 Beleth: aight ty
22:33 Touhou: when you time, go for the peak of the beat, not the start
22:33 Beleth: anything else?
22:34 Beleth: ohhhh
22:34 Beleth: ok
22:34 Beleth: tyty
22:34 Touhou: and try to find short, snappy sounds
22:34 Touhou: like snares if possible
22:34 Touhou: bass is often a bit delayed
22:34 Beleth: aight
22:34 Beleth: yeah
22:35 Beleth: tyty
22:35 Beleth: is my maps spread alright?
22:36 Touhou: spread?
22:36 Touhou: you mean diff settings?
22:36 Beleth: nono
22:36 Beleth: i meant
22:36 Beleth: is it too centred
22:36 Beleth: like
22:36 Beleth: spacing
22:36 Touhou: 00:01:256 (9) - new combo here
22:36 Touhou: new combo always at the start of a new sound pattern
22:36 Beleth: ok
22:36 Touhou: 00:01:901 (4) - this slider end is too intense
22:37 Touhou: it must be a clickable object
22:37 Beleth: should i change it to a stream?
22:37 Touhou: sliders should always have a louder start than finish
22:37 Beleth: ok
22:38 Beleth: i shortened that slider and put another slider where that other bass sound was up towards the bigger circle slider
22:38 Touhou: stream wouldn't fit
22:38 Touhou: it's not 1/4
22:38 Touhou: it's probably 1/8
22:38 Touhou: from how fast it sounds
22:38 Beleth: 1/6*
22:38 Beleth: i think
22:38 Beleth: xd
22:39 Touhou: ya first is 1/6
22:39 Touhou: second is 1/4
22:39 Beleth: yeye
22:39 Touhou: mate what is this
22:39 Touhou: 00:04:643 (1) -
22:39 Touhou: slider start super silent
22:39 Touhou: slider end super loud
22:39 Touhou: not like this
22:39 *Beleth is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1308269 BlackY - Harpuia [MASTER]]
22:39 Beleth: oh god
22:40 Beleth: 00:11:987 (1,2,3,4) - is this ok?
22:40 Touhou: 00:04:481 (3) - slider here
22:40 Touhou: 00:04:804 - and slider here
22:40 Touhou: 00:05:127 - slider here
22:40 Touhou: 00:05:288 (1,2) - no sound here
22:40 Touhou: delete those 2
22:40 Touhou: listen to the song at 25% speed
22:40 Beleth: there is a sound
22:40 Touhou: then lower effect volume to zero
22:41 Touhou: what sound is there
22:41 Beleth: oh shit
22:41 Beleth: o/
22:41 Touhou: am I deaf
22:41 Touhou: what is going on xd
22:41 Beleth: new combo on the stream?
22:41 Touhou: yeah new combo
22:41 Touhou: new kind of sound pattern
22:41 Beleth: aight
22:41 Touhou: 00:07:062 (13) - new combo
22:41 Beleth: (also do you mind putting all this onto the map's thread later?
22:41 Touhou: 00:06:578 (7) - new combo, pitch change
22:41 Touhou: eh sure
22:41 Beleth: tyty
22:42 Beleth: it just helps
22:42 Beleth: for referring
22:42 Beleth: 00:09:004 (3) - new combo?
22:42 Touhou: yeeeee
22:42 Beleth: aighttt
22:42 Touhou: ok look at the top left side
22:42 Touhou: see the +
22:42 Beleth: 00:10:294 (3) - and here?
22:42 Touhou: please click it a few times
22:42 Touhou: it's nearly impossible to see anything
22:42 Touhou: so stacked like it is
22:42 Beleth: lol i did
22:43 Beleth: sorry
22:43 Beleth: i didn't know what that did
22:43 Beleth: xd
22:43 Touhou: btw
22:43 Touhou: when you make streams
22:43 Beleth: ya?
22:43 Touhou: try to look for pitch changes / melody changes or simply where you put new combo
22:43 Beleth: okok
22:43 Beleth: so like
22:43 Beleth: when there is a bass interrupting the piano
22:43 Touhou: try to give it some kind of emphasis
22:43 Touhou: when the stream changes
22:44 Beleth: 00:10:778 (3,6) - so new combos?
22:44 Touhou: you could make it turn the opposite direction for example
22:44 Touhou: or just use a loop / line / curve that could reflect it
22:44 Touhou: 00:08:514 (1) - no new cb
22:44 Touhou: 00:08:998 (3) - nc here
22:44 Touhou: 00:10:288 (3) - nc here
22:44 Touhou: 00:09:804 (1) - no nc
22:44 Beleth: okok tyty
22:44 Touhou: 00:07:707 (1) - new combo
22:45 Beleth: also
22:45 Beleth: since that sream at the beginning starts on a blue tick
22:45 Beleth: should i start the stream there
22:45 Beleth: also
22:45 Touhou: 00:10:610 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - listen to this at 25% speed
22:45 Touhou: no stream here
22:45 Touhou: 00:10:610 (2,3,4) - triplet is okay
22:45 Touhou: 00:10:852 (5) - no
22:45 Beleth: errr?
22:45 Beleth: 00:12:229 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - why no stream?
22:46 Touhou: you gave me wrong time
22:46 Beleth: is it because it's not fast enough?
22:46 Beleth: ohhhhhhhh
22:46 Beleth: wait
22:46 Beleth: same section tho
22:46 Touhou: 00:10:610 - listen closely to this pattern
22:46 Beleth: oh
22:46 Beleth: i removed the stream already
22:46 Touhou: what do you want to emphasise
22:46 Beleth: lol
22:46 Touhou: like
22:46 Touhou: I would go for the foreground melody
22:46 Beleth: should i do
22:46 Beleth: triples
22:47 Beleth: slider
22:47 Beleth: triples
22:47 Beleth: slider
22:47 Beleth: ?
22:47 Touhou: eh
22:47 Touhou: tricky part
22:47 Touhou: there is much going on
22:47 Touhou: you could just map the bass
22:47 Touhou: and use circles if the background has something to support it
22:48 Beleth: i mapped the bass
22:48 Touhou: there is something else you could do
22:48 Beleth: so circle, 1/2 slider, circle, 1/2 slider
22:48 Touhou: since there is background piano
22:48 Touhou: you could literally put a stream to it
22:48 Beleth: circles emphasing the piano sliders emphasing the bass
22:48 Beleth: really?
22:50 Touhou:
http://puu.sh/w6W1N/9cdd652adb.jpg22:50 Beleth:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8229559 this seems to work
22:50 Touhou: 00:11:256 - onwards
22:50 Touhou: to make transitions into streams, you could use a 1/4 slider at the end of a stream
22:50 Touhou: 00:11:578 - could have a kick slider to allow for a better transition between the next stream patterns
22:51 Touhou: aka jump
22:51 Beleth: yeah
22:51 Beleth: spaced triples or stacked?
22:52 Touhou: eh try this
22:53 Touhou:
http://puu.sh/w6WcY/b6e6f21623.jpg22:53 Touhou: screenshot first circle starts: 00:10:288 -
22:53 Touhou: that way you map to the bass I guess
22:53 Touhou: which is the loudest element there
22:53 Touhou: second important would be the melody imo
22:53 Touhou: but the melody has a tricky part there
22:54 Touhou: so you have to stick to what you mapped to before
22:54 Touhou: if you mapped bass, keep doing that
22:54 Touhou: if you mapped melody, do that
22:54 Beleth: the melody seems to be
22:54 Beleth: on circle emphasis
22:54 Beleth: triple
22:54 Beleth: single
22:54 Beleth: triple
22:54 Beleth: single
22:54 Beleth: double?
22:55 Touhou: the melody is somewhere on the blue tick
22:55 Touhou: which is aids in streams
22:55 Beleth: yeah
22:55 Beleth: xd
22:55 Touhou: 00:11:175 (5) - there is the melody
22:55 Touhou: idk what to do
22:55 Touhou: not my map
22:55 *Touhou runs
22:56 Touhou: oh about your spacing
22:56 Touhou: spacing should be done to emphasise parts of the song
22:56 Touhou: loud parts = strong emphasis = large spacing
22:56 Touhou: easy
22:56 Touhou: parts that are less important, less spacing
22:56 Beleth: updating the map quickly
22:57 Touhou: 00:00:611 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'd stack this more
22:57 Touhou: v00:01:256 (9,1,2,3) - and make this larger and EQUAL spacing
22:57 Touhou: m8
22:57 Beleth: FUCKING HELL EDITOR
22:57 Touhou: I didn't want to mod
22:57 Touhou: now you made me semi mod
22:57 Touhou: plz
23:00 Touhou: damn lags