ensou ft. GUMI - COMA [CatchTheBeat] · forum

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-11-01T21:18:13+00:00

Nelly wrote:
Im waiting for BN

"Den som venter på noe godt, venter ikke forgjeves"

Cup

00:03:707 (3,1) - swap nc here, i think it fits better
00:15:374 (3,1) - increase a tiny bit of distance, maybe make slider tail end somewhere at x360
00:20:707 (5,1) - same as above but x155
00:20:041 (4) - nc cause all downbeats have
00:22:541 (3,4) - could make 3 a note and have a slider starting 00:22:707 - ending at 4 for consistency, also nc the note here 00:22:707 - if you do
00:34:541 (5,1) - make this distance bigger than the other 1/2 distances cause its a strong beat
00:37:541 (2) - what exactly is this following? sounds very weird cause slider head hits vocal while there's unmapped vocal here 00:37:707 - and slider tail hits drums. Basically sounds messy cause you're shifting what to follow so try to stick to either vocal or drum
00:43:374 (2) - remove repeat and make that a note please, very strong note which you even emphasised with a finisher
01:29:374 (1) - why is this a triplet? sounds better as a 1/1 slider for consistency

Salad

00:20:707 (4) - missing claps
00:34:539 (7,8,1) - dash should be between 7,8 and not 8,1 for proper emphasisement and for consistency with 00:37:374 (1,2) -
00:55:374 - 00:55:707 - I think you should map these vocals and add a dash to 00:56:041 (1) - since that's a pretty strong beat
00:56:041 (1,2,3) - I don't know how i feel about this, firstly because there's a dash between 1,2 that I don't see fitting and secondly because the rhythm seems off on 2,3. To fix this, you can start off by removing the dash between 1,2 and then either try to ctrl+g 2,3 or you can make the rhythm something like you did here 01:02:041 (2,3) - . The same about rhythm applies to similar patterns like 00:59:374 (2,3) - 01:07:374 (2,3) - etc
01:06:040 (2,4) - I would add claps to these notes also
01:13:040 (3,4) - is a dash needed here? don't think it's strong enough for a 1/2 dash at least
01:15:374 (3,1,2,3) - try to remove finisher on 3, add finisher on 1, add claps to 2 (both slider head and tail) and a fnisher on the last 3
01:26:374 (2) - feels weird to me that you map this that hits nothing in particular but ignore vocals here 01:22:374 - 01:23:707 -
01:28:041 (4) - add finisher? also 01:28:041 (4,1) - swap nc here
01:31:374 (2,3,4) - try making the distance equal between these notes
01:37:708 (2,1) - this is extremely long compared to other 1/2 dashes, example 01:27:874 (3,4) - also remove nc on 01:38:041 (1) -

Platter

the first part has more hyperdashes than kiai, intro shouldn't have that many hyperdashes, at least not more than the entire kiai section. Try to keep them at maybe every other downbeat.
00:04:874 (6,7) - did you mean to put claps here? sounds better without and also with consistency with how you hitsounded 00:06:541 (4,5,1) - it sounds better without claps on the two first notes of the triple
00:08:707 (4,1) - I don't think a hyper here is necessary
00:12:707 (2,1) - please reduce the distance a bit and tilt 00:13:374 (1) - a bit upwards as it's quite long of a slider
00:13:374 (1,2) - 00:14:874 (2,3) - why don't you add a bit more movement into this, these are almost standstill
00:15:874 (5,1,2) - ehh I'd say this is hyperdash antiflow which is unrankable, move 00:16:207 (2) - to the left of 00:16:040 (1) - (This might also lead to having to rearrange the upcoming notes cause they'll be placed on pretty much the same grid)
00:18:707 (1,2) - 00:19:540 (4,1) - same issue again as before, add more movement please
00:21:207 (5,1) - and another very hard hyperdash, please point the slider to the left instead
00:37:207 (8,1) - maybe add a hyper here for finisher
00:34:541 (9,10,11) - Would really fit with a hyper to 00:34:707 (11) - so maybe try removing 10 and add a hyper? also swap combo on 00:34:707 (11,1) -
00:47:540 (2,1) - Just because it's a calm part doesn't mean you shouldn't have any dashes! 1 is pretty strong so please at least add a dash!

Rain

00:03:040 (2,3) - should be a hyper considering how you've placed hypers in the rest of the map
00:09:874 (4,5,6) - I think as a Rain, double hypers like this should be kept for kiai, the most intense part of the song.
00:32:874 (4,5,1) - and same here as above
00:52:707 (6,1) - make this hyperdash since you've placed hypers on basically all other finishers
00:55:707 (2) - Would recommend moving this to at least x496 because the RC guideline says something about the destination of a hyperjump should be more than 16 pixels from the border of the playfield
00:56:707 (3) - move to x16 for same reason as above
00:57:707 (2) - same here but move this to x496
01:32:707 (3) - sounds much better with a 1/2 slider

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Nelly 2017-11-02T14:29:27+00:00

Benny- wrote:
Nelly wrote:
Im waiting for BN
"Den som venter på noe godt, venter ikke forgjeves"

Cup
00:03:707 (3,1) - swap nc here, i think it fits better
00:15:374 (3,1) - increase a tiny bit of distance, maybe make slider tail end somewhere at x360
00:20:707 (5,1) - same as above but x155
00:20:041 (4) - nc cause all downbeats have
00:22:541 (3,4) - could make 3 a note and have a slider starting 00:22:707 - ending at 4 for consistency, also nc the note here 00:22:707 - if you do Swapped slider to the note and added NC at (4)
00:34:541 (5,1) - make this distance bigger than the other 1/2 distances cause its a strong beat (1) moved to x:200
00:37:541 (2) - what exactly is this following? sounds very weird cause slider head hits vocal while there's unmapped vocal here 00:37:707 - and slider tail hits drums. Basically sounds messy cause you're shifting what to follow so try to stick to either vocal or drum
00:43:374 (2) - remove repeat and make that a note please, very strong note which you even emphasised with a finisher
01:29:374 (1) - why is this a triplet? sounds better as a 1/1 slider for consistency

Rain
00:03:040 (2,3) - should be a hyper considering how you've placed hypers in the rest of the map
00:09:874 (4,5,6) - I think as a Rain, double hypers like this should be kept for kiai, the most intense part of the song.
00:32:874 (4,5,1) - and same here as above
00:52:707 (6,1) - make this hyperdash since you've placed hypers on basically all other finishers Not working and I do not plan to change this section here
00:55:707 (2) - Would recommend moving this to at least x496 because the RC guideline says something about the destination of a hyperjump should be more than 16 pixels from the border of the playfield
00:56:707 (3) - move to x16 for same reason as above
00:57:707 (2) - same here but move this to x496
01:32:707 (3) - sounds much better with a 1/2 slider

No replies means accepted. Waiting for Paranoid Grapes and Hi_Hello to accept things. Thanks for check!

Sakary

868 posts

Joined July 2013

Sakary 2017-11-03T00:49:35+00:00

Benny- wrote:
Platter
the first part has more hyperdashes than kiai, intro shouldn't have that many hyperdashes, at least not more than the entire kiai section. Try to keep them at maybe every other downbeat. i considered following finish sounds as my basis for applying hdash that's why it seems very few on the kiai part. though, i adjusted and followed this suggestion; applied to some necessary parts on kiai.
00:04:874 (6,7) - did you mean to put claps here? sounds better without and also with consistency with how you hitsounded 00:06:541 (4,5,1) - it sounds better without claps on the two first notes of the triple
00:08:707 (4,1) - I don't think a hyper here is necessary
00:12:707 (2,1) - please reduce the distance a bit and tilt 00:13:374 (1) - a bit upwards as it's quite long of a slider
00:13:374 (1,2) - 00:14:874 (2,3) - why don't you add a bit more movement into this, these are almost standstill
00:15:874 (5,1,2) - ehh I'd say this is hyperdash antiflow which is unrankable, move 00:16:207 (2) - to the left of 00:16:040 (1) - (This might also lead to having to rearrange the upcoming notes cause they'll be placed on pretty much the same grid) what do you mean by hyperdash antiflow? i dont get it. i did apply your suggestion
00:18:707 (1,2) - 00:19:540 (4,1) - same issue again as before, add more movement please
00:21:207 (5,1) - and another very hard hyperdash, please point the slider to the left instead
00:37:207 (8,1) - maybe add a hyper here for finisher
00:34:541 (9,10,11) - Would really fit with a hyper to 00:34:707 (11) - so maybe try removing 10 and add a hyper? also swap combo on 00:34:707 (11,1) -
00:47:540 (2,1) - Just because it's a calm part doesn't mean you shouldn't have any dashes! 1 is pretty strong so please at least add a dash!

Thank you for the BN check!

Platter

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Nelly

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Nelly 2017-11-05T18:09:24+00:00

Salad

00:20:707 (4) - missing claps
00:34:539 (7,8,1) - dash should be between 7,8 and not 8,1 for proper emphasisement and for consistency with 00:37:374 (1,2) -
00:55:374 - 00:55:707 - I think you should map these vocals and add a dash to 00:56:041 (1) - since that's a pretty strong beat
00:56:041 (1,2,3) - I don't know how i feel about this, firstly because there's a dash between 1,2 that I don't see fitting and secondly because the rhythm seems off on 2,3. To fix this, you can start off by removing the dash between 1,2 and then either try to ctrl+g 2,3 or you can make the rhythm something like you did here 01:02:041 (2,3) - . The same about rhythm applies to similar patterns like 00:59:374 (2,3) - 01:07:374 (2,3) - etc
01:06:040 (2,4) - I would add claps to these notes also
01:13:040 (3,4) - is a dash needed here? don't think it's strong enough for a 1/2 dash at least
01:15:374 (3,1,2,3) - try to remove finisher on 3, add finisher on 1, add claps to 2 (both slider head and tail) and a fnisher on the last 3
01:26:374 (2) - feels weird to me that you map this that hits nothing in particular but ignore vocals here 01:22:374 - 01:23:707 -
01:28:041 (4) - add finisher? also 01:28:041 (4,1) - swap nc here
01:31:374 (2,3,4) - try making the distance equal between these notes
01:37:708 (2,1) - this is extremely long compared to other 1/2 dashes, example 01:27:874 (3,4) - also remove nc on 01:38:041 (1) -

I accepted everything and it seems the hitsound generator just made me dummy. Updated Salad and Platter.

Tanomoshii Nekojou

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Tanomoshii Nekojou 2017-11-24T16:21:31+00:00

add 'filipino' in the tags? .w.

Nelly

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Nelly 2017-11-24T18:17:10+00:00

Tanomoshii Nekojou wrote:
add 'filipino' in the tags? .w.

I don't think it should.

Sakary

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Sakary 2017-12-20T10:56:45+00:00

murmur twins

Nelly

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Nelly 2018-03-01T13:06:22+00:00

Changed some patterns in Platter and Rain. Checked hitsounding. Sorry Hi_Hello, I didn't said a permission to change some patterns by myself but it needed to.

Sakary

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Sakary 2018-03-02T12:57:01+00:00

Nelly wrote:
Changed some patterns in Platter and Rain. Checked hitsounding. Sorry Hi_Hello, I didn't said a permission to change some patterns by myself but it needed to.

sure

wonjae

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wonjae 2018-03-07T06:31:57+00:00

3 months

Jemzuu

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Jemzuu 2018-03-09T11:56:49+00:00

As promised~
Don't award kds to this since i've already got before

Platter

00:08:041 (1,2,3,4) - idk man there's just smth that bothers me in this part perhaps make it look aesthetic by moving 00:08:374 (2) - to x128, that would make it clearly walkable.
00:09:374 (2) - there is a clear cymbal sound in this note, add a finish i guess? additionally, since the finish is on (2) i suggest swapping the ncs for 00:08:874 (1,2) -
00:12:707 (2) - this slider feels a bit close with (1) even though it's a downbeat. I suggest adding a dash for this atleast, moving this to x384 feels better imo
00:15:207 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part is pretty meh tbh.. left rights, back and forths.. pretty boring pattern imo and this 00:16:040 (1) - strong downbeat isnt emphasized at all which could've been a hyper so i really suggest changing up the pattern here
00:22:707 (1,3) - swap ncs
00:26:207 (4,5,6) - nazi but visually u could've make the spacing equal xd 00:26:291 (5) - move this to x376 thx
00:26:707 (1) - potentially could add a hyper here since it's a strong downbeat like 00:24:041 (1) - move this 00:26:707 (1,2,3) - together to x167 also remove nc for 00:27:374 (1) - for nc consistency
00:29:374 (1) - should definitely have a hdash imo since there's a present cymbal for it
00:29:707 (3,4) - minor but spacing here feels unexpected, make 00:30:207 (4) - clearly walkable rn it kinda looks like it needs a tap dash
00:31:874 (6,1) - hyper to this seems too strong imo could reduce it a bit
00:33:374 (1,3) - swap ncs cus combos should exceed 12 objects including slider tails
00:35:874 (1,2,3) - nazi again but equalize spacing for this plszz
00:55:374 (4,1) - cross screen hyper feels a bit tight for this kind of diff so perhaps reduce this a bit, move 00:55:374 (4) - to x96
00:57:207 (4) - u could've make this a 1/1 slider if you're going for vocals. The current rhythm feels out of place or smth imo and dont forget to nc this slider as well if you accepted
01:00:707 (5,6,7) - this kinda looks technical for a platter to me tbh why not remove 01:00:957 (6) - this note? there might be sound for it but it isnt that important at all since the most prominent sound is the vocal so that way, this would be more simple to play, just adjust stuff after
01:04:707 (3,4,1) - what is this spacing actually? it seems out of place
01:06:207 (5,6,7) - naziiii 01:06:374 (6) - move this to x232 for aesthetics xdd
01:07:374 (3,4,1,2,3) - uhhhh i dont get the reason for this back and forth movement it looks like the mapper ran out of ideas and placed these random notes in the editor lol but seriously i suggest making this pattern more simple or changing the rhythm perhaps, same suggestion as 00:57:207 btw so just copy the rhythm there
01:13:124 - the sound here isnt that noticable compared to 01:12:624 (2) - so i suggest deleting this note to avoid overmapping
01:14:707 (1,2,3) - nazi yea u already know xd
01:15:873 (1) - remove nc
01:22:374 (1,2) - could add a dash here to emphasize the vocal better
01:31:374 (3,4,1) - not really a fan of this movement since it could confuse the player or smth maybe make one slider vertical or smth just make it more simple like the first one

Rain

00:07:541 (3,4) - i dont really see a reason for this hyper since the sound is repeating so i suggest just make this a simple back and forth like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10429703 just so to be consistent with 00:05:373 (1,2,3,4) -
00:14:374 (4,5) - this looks quite tight to play ingame coming from a hyper on 00:14:041 (3) - so i suggest nerfing this
00:18:041 (3) - this looks too far visually imo move it to x56 pls
00:29:374 (1) - feeeeels kinda awkward to catch i guess atleast for me.. why not make this slider vertical like 00:30:041 (3) - instead?
01:13:707 (2) - any reason for this hyper? the song is starting to get calm so maybe a walk would be better
01:33:041 (4) - replace sliderhead with clap?
01:38:874 (1) - move this to red tick instead to make spinner more dense u know so there would be more score variation dont forget to end on big white tick btw

aight das all i wish u gudluck my fren~

Nelly

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Nelly 2018-03-09T12:54:25+00:00

AJamez wrote:
Rain
00:07:541 (3,4) - i dont really see a reason for this hyper since the sound is repeating so i suggest just make this a simple back and forth like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10429703 just so to be consistent with 00:05:373 (1,2,3,4) -
00:14:374 (4,5) - this looks quite tight to play ingame coming from a hyper on 00:14:041 (3) - so i suggest nerfing this
00:18:041 (3) - this looks too far visually imo move it to x56 pls
00:29:374 (1) - feeeeels kinda awkward to catch i guess atleast for me.. why not make this slider vertical like 00:30:041 (3) - instead?
01:13:707 (2) - any reason for this hyper? the song is starting to get calm so maybe a walk would be better
01:33:041 (4) - replace sliderhead with clap? Placing a clap here feels wrong since it dosen't match with this moment of the song here.
01:38:874 (1) - move this to red tick instead to make spinner more dense u know so there would be more score variation dont forget to end on big white tick btw

Everything else I accepted. I'm gotta wait for Hi_Hello to check out. I gave kudosu to AJamez again because it was really helpful in general.

Sakary

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Sakary 2018-03-10T00:23:10+00:00

AJamez wrote:
Platter
00:08:041 (1,2,3,4) - idk man there's just smth that bothers me in this part perhaps make it look aesthetic by moving 00:08:374 (2) - to x128, that would make it clearly walkable.
00:09:374 (2) - there is a clear cymbal sound in this note, add a finish i guess? additionally, since the finish is on (2) i suggest swapping the ncs for 00:08:874 (1,2) -
00:12:707 (2) - this slider feels a bit close with (1) even though it's a downbeat. I suggest adding a dash for this atleast, moving this to x384 feels better imo
00:15:207 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part is pretty meh tbh.. left rights, back and forths.. pretty boring pattern imo and this 00:16:040 (1) - strong downbeat isnt emphasized at all which could've been a hyper so i really suggest changing up the pattern here not boring for me, sorry. also no need for emphasis on 1- it would be hard for a platter diff if i do so
00:22:707 (1,3) - swap ncs
00:26:207 (4,5,6) - nazi but visually u could've make the spacing equal xd 00:26:291 (5) - move this to x376 thx
00:26:707 (1) - potentially could add a hyper here since it's a strong downbeat like 00:24:041 (1) - move this 00:26:707 (1,2,3) - together to x167 also remove nc for 00:27:374 (1) - for nc consistency it was meant to be hdash. someone mentioned not to make it hdash. idk really.
00:29:374 (1) - should definitely have a hdash imo since there's a present cymbal for it not hdash. i applied dash instead
00:29:707 (3,4) - minor but spacing here feels unexpected, make 00:30:207 (4) - clearly walkable rn it kinda looks like it needs a tap dash yes. applied it together with the previous mod
00:31:874 (6,1) - hyper to this seems too strong imo could reduce it a bit should
00:33:374 (1,3) - swap ncs cus combos should exceed 12 objects including slider tails
00:35:874 (1,2,3) - nazi again but equalize spacing for this plszz
00:55:374 (4,1) - cross screen hyper feels a bit tight for this kind of diff so perhaps reduce this a bit, move 00:55:374 (4) - to x96
00:57:207 (4) - u could've make this a 1/1 slider if you're going for vocals. The current rhythm feels out of place or smth imo and dont forget to nc this slider as well if you accepted agree with this one. have to adjust stuffs not only this one.,... ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
01:00:707 (5,6,7) - this kinda looks technical for a platter to me tbh why not remove 01:00:957 (6) - this note? there might be sound for it but it isnt that important at all since the most prominent sound is the vocal so that way, this would be more simple to play, just adjust stuff after it sounds spam-1/2-notes without 6. so keeping this
01:04:707 (3,4,1) - what is this spacing actually? it seems out of place
01:06:207 (5,6,7) - naziiii 01:06:374 (6) - move this to x232 for aesthetics xdd too OC (lol)
01:07:374 (3,4,1,2,3) - uhhhh i dont get the reason for this back and forth movement it looks like the mapper ran out of ideas and placed these random notes in the editor lol but seriously i suggest making this pattern more simple or changing the rhythm perhaps, same suggestion as 00:57:207 btw so just copy the rhythm there yeah, huhu, you made me feel down here . followed your suggestion... *sniff sniff*
01:13:124 - the sound here isnt that noticable compared to 01:12:624 (2) - so i suggest deleting this note to avoid overmapping sorry, i like this one.
01:14:707 (1,2,3) - nazi yea u already know xd OCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
01:15:873 (1) - remove nc
01:22:374 (1,2) - could add a dash here to emphasize the vocal better
01:31:374 (3,4,1) - not really a fan of this movement since it could confuse the player or smth maybe make one slider vertical or smth just make it more simple like the first one This is Nelly's.

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thank you for the mod ajamez. huhuhu

it's jeir's check next

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Nelly 2018-03-15T14:23:10+00:00

Hi_Hello wrote:
it's jeir's check next

Yep. Updated.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-03-17T00:50:31+00:00

hmm

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Nelly 2018-03-17T05:05:21+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
hmm

Poggers?

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-03-17T05:57:46+00:00

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm okay

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-03-19T02:20:15+00:00

soft-hitwhistle.mp3 needs to be changed to a .wav file please
tr2 in platter

cup:

00:08:707 (3) - would be nice to reduce this to 1/1 please
00:37:541 (2) - could be 1/1 also, try to reduce some density here
actually try to drop some density in general in this diff, the patterns are okay but the diff seems pretty dense

monkey salad:

00:04:707 (6,1) - no reason for dash tbh, no different than anything else
00:23:041 (3,4,1) - not a fan, i'd delete the dash between 3,4
00:25:374 (1,2) - why dash
00:59:707 (3,4) - should be no dash
check some dash distances and allocations could use some workkkk

find 1-2 mods on the low diffs and call me

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2018-03-19T02:49:25+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
soft-hitwhistle.mp3 needs to be changed to a .wav file please
tr2 in platter

monkey salad:

00:04:707 (6,1) - no reason for dash tbh, no different than anything else noticible change of how the guitar sounds in the song imo.
not going to remove dash
00:23:041 (3,4,1) - not a fan, i'd delete the dash between 3,4 neither am i, okay
00:25:374 (1,2) - why dash emphasize vocals and to mirror 00:28:707 (4) - you bonobo
00:59:707 (3,4) - should be no dash okay
check some dash distances and allocations could use some workkkk
find 1-2 mods on the low diffs and call me

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Sakary

868 posts

Joined July 2013

Sakary 2018-03-19T09:17:52+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
soft-hitwhistle.mp3 needs to be changed to a .wav file please
tr2 in platter

http://www.filedropper.com/soft-hitwhistle

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Nelly 2018-03-19T14:45:41+00:00

Finally updated

JierYagtama

716 posts

Joined November 2015

JierYagtama 2018-03-27T00:54:36+00:00

>not sniping ascendance's sd q btw also cup is clean so only modding salad as requested

Paranoid Salad

00:12:707 (2,1) - Ok this is a pretty edgy 1/4 dash here with a ds of 3.45 Please reduce the ds here
00:25:374 (1,2,1,2,3) - Yeah the dash should be swapped from here 00:25:374 (1,2) - to 00:26:041 (2,1,2,3) - when theres a clear downbeat 00:26:707 (1,2,3) - I suggest making 00:26:041 (2) - 00:26:041 (2) - horizontal then moving 00:26:041 (2,1,2,3) - to x:240 then adjust 00:26:707 (1,2,3) - a bit so the dash is more clearer.
00:34:040 (4,5,6,7,8) - Move this to x:202 so does that the dash between 00:33:707 (3,4) - is more clearer
00:36:041 (1,2,1) - Yeah I dont think its a good idea to spam dashes left and right here when there should be only one object that you should give a dash to and its 00:37:374 (1) - when the downbeat marks the end of a line in the verse that deserves more emphasis than what it is right now. So I suggest moving x:226 to nerf the dash on 00:36:041 (1,2) - then give more emphasis to 00:36:707 (2,1) -
00:37:374 (1,2,3) - A bit inconsistent with rhythm on 00:38:874 (1,2) - when you mapped the instrumentals then suddenly the vocals where it doesnt really fit on whats the song doing rn so I suggest going wwith this rhythm so we can remain on being consistent on mappingg the vocals till the end of the section here
00:38:874 (1,2,1) - Dude why are you putting so many dashes lmao especially when 00:38:874 (1,2) - is sort of harsh of a dash/ I suggest you do the same on givng a dash 00:40:041 (1) - similar idea like what i said on 00:36:041 (1,2,1) -
00:52:707 (4,5,1) - Umm sudden rhythm density in a calm section here. I prefer removing 5 then give 4 and 1 proper dashes to emphasize the vocals better here
01:00:374 (4,1) - Too much ds here between these two please reduce them a bit till its 2.30ds between them

gl

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2018-03-27T04:14:22+00:00

JeirYagtama wrote:
>not sniping ascendance's sd q btw also cup is clean so only modding salad as requested

Paranoid Salad

00:12:707 (2,1) - Ok this is a pretty edgy 1/4 dash here with a ds of 3.45 Please reduce the ds here
00:25:374 (1,2,1,2,3) - Yeah the dash should be swapped from here 00:25:374 (1,2) - to 00:26:041 (2,1,2,3) - when theres a clear downbeat 00:26:707 (1,2,3) - I suggest making 00:26:041 (2) - 00:26:041 (2) - horizontal then moving 00:26:041 (2,1,2,3) - to x:240 then adjust 00:26:707 (1,2,3) - a bit so the dash is more clearer.
00:34:040 (4,5,6,7,8) - Move this to x:202 so does that the dash between 00:33:707 (3,4) - is more clearer
00:36:041 (1,2,1) - Yeah I dont think its a good idea to spam dashes left and right here when there should be only one object that you should give a dash to and its 00:37:374 (1) - when the downbeat marks the end of a line in the verse that deserves more emphasis than what it is right now. So I suggest moving x:226 to nerf the dash on 00:36:041 (1,2) - then give more emphasis to 00:36:707 (2,1) -
00:37:374 (1,2,3) - A bit inconsistent with rhythm on 00:38:874 (1,2) - when you mapped the instrumentals then suddenly the vocals where it doesnt really fit on whats the song doing rn so I suggest going wwith this rhythm so we can remain on being consistent on mappingg the vocals till the end of the section here no.
00:38:874 (1,2,1) - Dude why are you putting so many dashes lmao especially when 00:38:874 (1,2) - is sort of harsh of a dash/ I suggest you do the same on givng a dash 00:40:041 (1) - similar idea like what i said on 00:36:041 (1,2,1) - not changing this. maps the song
00:52:707 (4,5,1) - Umm sudden rhythm density in a calm section here. I prefer removing 5 then give 4 and 1 proper dashes to emphasize the vocals better here it used to be like how u wanted it here but someone else told me to change it. anyway i like it like this
01:00:374 (4,1) - Too much ds here between these two please reduce them a bit till its 2.30ds between them
gl

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Nelly

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Nelly 2018-03-27T04:16:47+00:00

Updated

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-03-27T06:22:10+00:00

please standardize the difficulty settings:

cup - ar/od 6
salad - ar/od 7
platter - ar/od 8
rain - ar/od 9

I don't really see a need for the weird diff settings

Cup still is pretty dense, you could remove things like 00:15:207 (2) - 00:19:874 (3) - 00:34:541 (5) - and some other notes that aren't really 100% needed.

Also maybe you could make Cup/Salad TR1 for readability purposes

call me back after that~

Nelly

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Nelly 2018-03-27T13:13:59+00:00

Accepted everything except for 00:34:541 (5) - since I wanted to place a note for a vocal. Addictionally I browsed some information to find the actual resources of this song and boy, I'm very stupid. The use of language is actually in Tagalog (Pilipino) and I added Pilipino and Rayark as in the tags. Also I think the metadata should be ensou ft. GUMI - COMA because on osu! search when you browse it will give the results like this. I haven't wrote feat. as a misspell, ft. or feat. will give the results on o!std and o!mania mapsets still. I hope that would cover everything. Thanks for a checks fellas! If anything I said wrong then feel free to discuss with me. also slider ticks in cup and salad are placed as 1 lul

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-03-27T14:49:51+00:00

no icon panel on the new site peppy please fix

Sakary

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Sakary 2018-03-28T01:20:41+00:00

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2018-03-29T11:06:51+00:00

General
Can you raise the brown colour luminosity to 60, should avoid combo colours around 50 luminosity
Metadata is fine https://ensou.bandcamp.com/track/coma
01:17:374 (9) - NC here to avoid too many fruits stacking up during the spinner

Hitsounds
I used rain as reference
00:22:374 (5) - 00:44:707 (2) - Hitsound snare tail could be done
00:23:707 (5) - These could use snares
00:34:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Could you use hitsounds for this? Not sure why there aren't any here since this is a nice part to highlight drums like 01:16:707 (1) -
00:42:124 (4) - Missing some whistles around here
00:44:707 (2) - This could be whistle whistle clap
00:55:374 (2) - Decrease the volume of the tail here, too loud for the quiet part
00:56:707 (3) - 00:57:207 (1) - 00:59:374 (3) - 01:00:874 (3) - whistles here?
01:17:541 (1) - Add a whistle hitsound to the spinner

Rain
00:06:040 (5) - Can you avoid ending hyperdashes on x=0
00:12:041 (1,2,3) - This would be easier to read if you used a slider instead, just raise the sv so it has the same positions
01:06:374 (6) - Changing these to circles would make them feel more like individual sounds, nice highlight
01:11:541 (3) - Why is this a 1/4 slider? No sound on the tail afaik
01:35:457 (4) - Mapping this sound decreases emphasis on the snares here, I'd suggest just to delete this, more emphasis to the drums
01:38:540 (6) - If you want to have equal hyper distances between these two sliders, you should move 01:38:540 (6) - so that the tail is on 01:38:290 (4) - , Better flow when equal distances

Platter
00:31:374 (4,5) - This part feels a bit too dashy, I'd suggest to decrease distances around here to avoid dashing
00:32:707 (2,3) - Can you decrease the distance between these two objects? That way it makes it clearer 00:33:207 (3,4) - is a dash since it looks larger distance
00:35:874 (1) - SV is too high here, would reduce distance a bit
00:39:707 (5,6,1) - The hyperdash setup is a bit too complicated for platter. There's some really inconsistent distances at 4,5,6, and to top it off there's mild antiflow at 00:40:041 (1) - . Try and make this section easier to play.
00:45:374 (1) - Technically this is at x496, but the slider body slides right next to the wall. Try and move it to the left a bit more to avoid this.
00:45:374 (1,2) - Try and reduce distance here to avoid dash and make walkable
00:50:207 (2,1) - Increase distance a bit since it's walkable + snare on tail
00:55:374 (4,1) - Really can't have hyperdashes end at 503 on platter

01:03:374 (2) - Tilt this slider left so the distance to 3 is more manageable
01:05:374 (1,2,3) - Distances of dashes are really unclear because sliders are slightly tilted. If you make the sliders here vertical, it becomes clearer how much distance there is between each jump.
01:06:707 (1,2) - This needs some tap dashes, you could avoid it by rotating 1 ccw a bit, then moving 2 left
01:08:040 (1) - Mapping this sound doesn't make sense imo cuz there's almost no sound here, focus on stronger instruments.
01:16:374 (5) - Have this at the same angle as 01:15:873 (4) - for consistent distances.
01:16:707 (1) - Players are going to overdash this stream. Don't change slider velocity and just use normal 1x when creating this stream.
01:26:874 (2) - Missing snare

Salad
00:18:707 (1,2) - Reduce distance here since not much to dash for
00:28:374 (3) - 00:31:374 (2) - 00:37:707 (2) - 00:42:374 (1) - 01:22:708 (2) - 01:24:041 (4) - clap
00:53:207 (5,1) - can you nerf the distance here, felt like a pretty hard dash
00:55:374 (4,5,1) - Can you reduce distances between 4,5? It would make the dash to the kiai start look stronger because the distance before it was small. Rotate 3 clockwise 90 degrees and there should be space to do it
01:00:374 (4) - u can rotate this so there's more movement, having very little movement is more awkward to play tbh
01:07:374 (2,3) - would reduce distances here for simplicity
01:11:707 (1,2) - felt like a really weak dash, curving the slider would give enough space to work with a larger dash
01:12:041 (2,3) - is this a dash or a walk, would probably be better to reduce to walk by applying the above
01:15:374 (3,1) - imo doesnt really need a dash here, not much to emphasise + there are stronger sounds after
01:27:874 (3,1,2) - Distances here are kind of an issue since antiflow to 2 is pretty hard to reach, try nerfing the distances of both 3,1 and 1,2
01:37:374 (1) - nice ending section

Nelly

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Nelly 2018-03-29T11:43:49+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
General
Can you raise the brown colour luminosity to 60, should avoid combo colours around 50 luminosity
Metadata is fine https://ensou.bandcamp.com/track/coma
01:17:374 (9) - NC here to avoid too many fruits stacking up during the spinner

Hitsounds
I used rain as reference
00:22:374 (5) - 00:44:707 (2) - Hitsound snare tail could be done
00:23:707 (5) - These could use snares
00:34:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Could you use hitsounds for this? Not sure why there aren't any here since this is a nice part to highlight drums like 01:16:707 (1) - Had a good idea just to make 00:34:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6) as the drum sounds just to emphasize the music.
00:42:124 (4) - Missing some whistles around here
00:44:707 (2) - This could be whistle whistle clap
00:55:374 (2) - Decrease the volume of the tail here, too loud for the quiet part
00:56:707 (3) - 00:57:207 (1) - 00:59:374 (3) - 01:00:874 (3) - whistles here?
01:17:541 (1) - Add a whistle hitsound to the spinner

Rain
00:06:040 (5) - Can you avoid ending hyperdashes on x=0
00:12:041 (1,2,3) - This would be easier to read if you used a slider instead, just raise the sv so it has the same positions
01:06:374 (6) - Changing these to circles would make them feel more like individual sounds, nice highlight
01:11:541 (3) - Why is this a 1/4 slider? No sound on the tail afaik
01:35:457 (4) - Mapping this sound decreases emphasis on the snares here, I'd suggest just to delete this, more emphasis to the drums
01:38:540 (6) - If you want to have equal hyper distances between these two sliders, you should move 01:38:540 (6) - so that the tail is on 01:38:290 (4) - , Better flow when equal distances

Platter
01:26:874 (2) - Missing snare

No replies means accepted. Waiting for Grapes and Hi_Hello to responce.

Sakary

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Sakary 2018-03-29T12:04:37+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
Platter
00:31:374 (4,5) - This part feels a bit too dashy, I'd suggest to decrease distances around here to avoid dashing
00:32:707 (2,3) - Can you decrease the distance between these two objects? That way it makes it clearer 00:33:207 (3,4) - is a dash since it looks larger distance
00:35:874 (1) - SV is too high here, would reduce distance a bit
00:39:707 (5,6,1) - The hyperdash setup is a bit too complicated for platter. There's some really inconsistent distances at 4,5,6, and to top it off there's mild antiflow at 00:40:041 (1) - . Try and make this section easier to play.
00:45:374 (1) - Technically this is at x496, but the slider body slides right next to the wall. Try and move it to the left a bit more to avoid this.
00:45:374 (1,2) - Try and reduce distance here to avoid dash and make walkable
00:50:207 (2,1) - Increase distance a bit since it's walkable + snare on tail
00:55:374 (4,1) - Really can't have hyperdashes end at 503 on platter what? 4 still has hdash and moved 1 somewhere less than 503
01:03:374 (2) - Tilt this slider left so the distance to 3 is more manageable
01:05:374 (1,2,3) - Distances of dashes are really unclear because sliders are slightly tilted. If you make the sliders here vertical, it becomes clearer how much distance there is between each jump.
01:06:707 (1,2) - This needs some tap dashes, you could avoid it by rotating 1 ccw a bit, then moving 2 left
01:08:040 (1) - Mapping this sound doesn't make sense imo cuz there's almost no sound here, focus on stronger instruments.
01:16:374 (5) - Have this at the same angle as 01:15:873 (4) - for consistent distances.
01:16:707 (1) - Players are going to overdash this stream. Don't change slider velocity and just use normal 1x when creating this stream.
01:26:874 (2) - Missing snare

accepted everything.
thank you for the BN check

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Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

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Topic Starter

Nelly 2018-03-29T14:32:01+00:00

Paranoid Grapes allowed me to use his diff by editing with your mod so I applied everything. The set is updated.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

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Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2018-03-30T06:28:18+00:00

00:54:707 (1) - I meant the tail of this, should both be around 30% volume

Cup
00:22:541 (3) - Snare
01:12:040 (1) - Shorten this by 1/2, vocal is there and doesn't make sense to have an edge dash
01:37:374 (1,2) - Distance between these could increase just a little bit for a finish

Salad
00:38:874 (1,2,1) - Two dashes in a row are pretty hard here since the window for 2,1 is small, try reducing distance or make 00:38:874 (1,2) - not a dash

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

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Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2018-03-30T13:39:50+00:00

nostalgic for cwc group stage

Namki

1,281 posts

Joined November 2014

Namki 2018-03-30T19:59:25+00:00

грац \w/

Nelly

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Nelly 2018-03-31T06:45:49+00:00

Спасибо, Намки \w/

MBomb

MBomb 2018-04-01T23:42:12+00:00

Sorry but there's a few quick things I need to bring up ;w;

[General]

Single biggest concern, and the reason I start this check, is that Cup and Salad start 1/2 tick later than Platter and Rain, despite both of them being spinners that you'd expect to be snapped to the same sound. I don't actually hear any sound where the spinner starts in the higher 2 diffs, so I would highly recommend moving it to start at the white tick, like in the lower 2 diffs.

[Cup]

00:57:207 (3) - Distancing to this feels overly short considering the pitch on it. Even if it's a 1/2 gap, a bigger distancing would definitely feel more fitting with the music here.
01:07:874 (3) - A similar situation as above.
01:17:374 (2) - Note could definitely do with a little more distance considering the very strong pitch on this note.
01:28:041 (1) - Higher distancing to it would be really nice for emphasis on kiai start and also on the heavier drum introduction.
01:28:041 - to 01:34:707 - , this entire section is just really underwhelming due to pattern usage, the intensity of this section is at a peak, yet you use constant movement with little antiflow direction changes, where at this point they'd really be very fitting.

[Salad]

00:18:707 (1) - 3/2 slider here feels really out of place considering the timeline you've used for ever section similar to this up until this point has been either a 1/2 triple or a 1/1 slider, both of which end on the 1/1 tick rather than the 1/2. Feels really awkward in comparison to those. I can see reasons for either, however it may be best to add a little bit more consistency to this. Same with next one of course.
00:34:040 (4) - Distance to this is super ambiguous, given the rest of the map's tendancy to have dashes at a much higher distance. Would be better to have this fitting to those, so the seemingly lower distance doesn't confuse newer players.
00:39:541 (4) - Distance to this is really big considering distances throughout the map. Maybe move it a bit to the left and then make the slider horizontal as to make the flow into the next note still nice.
00:42:707 (2) - This one could definitely be increased quite a bit more to reduce the ambiguity and make the distance more similar to other dashes in the map too.
00:56:041 (1) - Would be nice to increase both to reduce ambiguity and also because this is the start of the most intense part of the map, having a smaller dash distance than the rest of the map feels really off here.
00:58:707 (1) - Another overly ambiguous one, though this one's a little harder to fix.

[Platter]

01:11:707 (5,1) - Is there really any reason for this HDash strength to be so strong? 5 could definitely be tilted a bit to make the HDash a lot more comfortable and fitting, current HDash strength feels super out of place.
01:16:374 (5,1) - Another place where HDash strength could be lowered quite a bit without losing quality and keeping the HDash, really no reason for this to be so strong, it takes away from the power of the last vocal because the HDash strength difference isn't as obvious.

In general throughout the difficulty, some quite strong HDash placements are used, but there's nothing particularly special about the notes where you use them, which makes them feel seemingly random. I'd recommend going through the difficulty and looking at HDash strengths in particular and try to work them around song intensity. Clear examples of this are throughout the map, above points later on in the map and earlier points such as 00:10:707 (1) - are overly emphasised despite having no special impact from other notes with HDashes in the section.

[Rain]

00:14:374 (4) - This note feels like you misplaced it. There is almost no sound here, and no other section in the map similar to this have you used a HDash, assuming you didn't intend that?
00:43:374 (3) - Having that last note as a slider end feels really off because of how strong the downbeat feels here in comparison to how weak a slider end feels.
00:56:707 (3) - This strong HDash feels really forced against the wall because of the closeness and strength combined. Something that should really be fixed to keep with guideline.

Nelly

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Nelly 2018-04-02T10:48:09+00:00

Interesting

MBomb wrote:
[General]

Single biggest concern, and the reason I start this check, is that Cup and Salad start 1/2 tick later than Platter and Rain, despite both of them being spinners that you'd expect to be snapped to the same sound. I don't actually hear any sound where the spinner starts in the higher 2 diffs, so I would highly recommend moving it to start at the white tick, like in the lower 2 diffs.

[Cup]

00:57:207 (3) - Distancing to this feels overly short considering the pitch on it. Even if it's a 1/2 gap, a bigger distancing would definitely feel more fitting with the music here.
01:07:874 (3) - A similar situation as above.
01:17:374 (2) - Note could definitely do with a little more distance considering the very strong pitch on this note.
01:28:041 (1) - Higher distancing to it would be really nice for emphasis on kiai start and also on the heavier drum introduction.
01:28:041 - to 01:34:707 - , this entire section is just really underwhelming due to pattern usage, the intensity of this section is at a peak, yet you use constant movement with little antiflow direction changes, where at this point they'd really be very fitting.

[Rain]

00:14:374 (4) - This note feels like you misplaced it. There is almost no sound here, and no other section in the map similar to this have you used a HDash, assuming you didn't intend that?
00:43:374 (3) - Having that last note as a slider end feels really off because of how strong the downbeat feels here in comparison to how weak a slider end feels.
00:56:707 (3) - This strong HDash feels really forced against the wall because of the closeness and strength combined. Something that should really be fixed to keep with guideline.

I managed to change it all up. I'll call the others and I'll request a DQ so I could update my mapset after your check.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2018-04-02T11:08:04+00:00

DQ requested by mapper to fix stuff from MBomb's mod

Nelly

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Nelly 2018-04-02T12:54:02+00:00

Hi_Hello allowed me to edit his diff so I'll try to understand your suggestions on his parts. https://i.imgur.com/nJsktfi.png

MBomb wrote:
[Platter]

01:11:707 (5,1) - Is there really any reason for this HDash strength to be so strong? 5 could definitely be tilted a bit to make the HDash a lot more comfortable and fitting, current HDash strength feels super out of place.
01:16:374 (5,1) - Another place where HDash strength could be lowered quite a bit without losing quality and keeping the HDash, really no reason for this to be so strong, it takes away from the power of the last vocal because the HDash strength difference isn't as obvious.

In general throughout the difficulty, some quite strong HDash placements are used, but there's nothing particularly special about the notes where you use them, which makes them feel seemingly random. I'd recommend going through the difficulty and looking at HDash strengths in particular and try to work them around song intensity. Clear examples of this are throughout the map, above points later on in the map and earlier points such as 00:10:707 (1) - are overly emphasised despite having no special impact from other notes with HDashes in the section.

I only accepted your last suggestion, which is general thoughts, but I declined these first two suggestions because they are reflecting to the kiai parts perfectly. If you meant the result as "reduce the HDashes" then I can understand however for Platter and especially with these HDashes and supporting hitsounds is probably too weird to make them as a dashable movements. All in all, I declined the first two suggestions with a tiny changes but I accepted the general thoughts. Updated the set by now however I'm still waiting for Paranoid Grapes to accept your suggestions so it's not over yet.

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2018-04-02T17:43:51+00:00

MBomb wrote:
Sorry but there's a few quick things I need to bring up ;w;

[General]

Single biggest concern, and the reason I start this check, is that Cup and Salad start 1/2 tick later than Platter and Rain, despite both of them being spinners that you'd expect to be snapped to the same sound. I don't actually hear any sound where the spinner starts in the higher 2 diffs, so I would highly recommend moving it to start at the white tick, like in the lower 2 diffs.

[Cup]

00:57:207 (3) - Distancing to this feels overly short considering the pitch on it. Even if it's a 1/2 gap, a bigger distancing would definitely feel more fitting with the music here.
01:07:874 (3) - A similar situation as above.
01:17:374 (2) - Note could definitely do with a little more distance considering the very strong pitch on this note.
01:28:041 (1) - Higher distancing to it would be really nice for emphasis on kiai start and also on the heavier drum introduction.
01:28:041 - to 01:34:707 - , this entire section is just really underwhelming due to pattern usage, the intensity of this section is at a peak, yet you use constant movement with little antiflow direction changes, where at this point they'd really be very fitting.

[Salad]

00:18:707 (1) - 3/2 slider here feels really out of place considering the timeline you've used for ever section similar to this up until this point has been either a 1/2 triple or a 1/1 slider, both of which end on the 1/1 tick rather than the 1/2. Feels really awkward in comparison to those. I can see reasons for either, however it may be best to add a little bit more consistency to this. Same with next one of course. the complaint before i changed it to be 3/2 was that the section felt wayy too repetitive since i only used 1/1 - 1/2 patterns. i think keeping this for rhythm variety is fine.
00:34:040 (4) - Distance to this is super ambiguous, given the rest of the map's tendancy to have dashes at a much higher distance. Would be better to have this fitting to those, so the seemingly lower distance doesn't confuse newer players. increased to further clarify the dash.
00:39:541 (4) - Distance to this is really big considering distances throughout the map. Maybe move it a bit to the left and then make the slider horizontal as to make the flow into the next note still nice. ur right. done.
00:42:707 (2) - This one could definitely be increased quite a bit more to reduce the ambiguity and make the distance more similar to other dashes in the map too. increased by a little
00:56:041 (1) - Would be nice to increase both to reduce ambiguity and also because this is the start of the most intense part of the map, having a smaller dash distance than the rest of the map feels really off here. fixed
00:58:707 (1) - Another overly ambiguous one, though this one's a little harder to fix. bro fixing this is EZ

[Platter]

01:11:707 (5,1) - Is there really any reason for this HDash strength to be so strong? 5 could definitely be tilted a bit to make the HDash a lot more comfortable and fitting, current HDash strength feels super out of place.
01:16:374 (5,1) - Another place where HDash strength could be lowered quite a bit without losing quality and keeping the HDash, really no reason for this to be so strong, it takes away from the power of the last vocal because the HDash strength difference isn't as obvious.

In general throughout the difficulty, some quite strong HDash placements are used, but there's nothing particularly special about the notes where you use them, which makes them feel seemingly random. I'd recommend going through the difficulty and looking at HDash strengths in particular and try to work them around song intensity. Clear examples of this are throughout the map, above points later on in the map and earlier points such as 00:10:707 (1) - are overly emphasised despite having no special impact from other notes with HDashes in the section.

[Rain]

00:14:374 (4) - This note feels like you misplaced it. There is almost no sound here, and no other section in the map similar to this have you used a HDash, assuming you didn't intend that?
00:43:374 (3) - Having that last note as a slider end feels really off because of how strong the downbeat feels here in comparison to how weak a slider end feels.
00:56:707 (3) - This strong HDash feels really forced against the wall because of the closeness and strength combined. Something that should really be fixed to keep with guideline.