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ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
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ColdTooth
Now I know I'm posting in G&R (which is very rare of me), and the only thing I'll probably get out of this post is "play more" or "git gud scrub". While I have went from 40k to 20k in two days, there are still a few patterns I feel uneasy about, and would like some tips atleast.

The first real issue I have while playing is trying to alternate circles after a slider. A couple examples:

Taken from Knife Party - Bonfire [Rage] 00:49:665 (1,2,3) - mapped by inverness bpm: 87


Taken from Last Note. - Caramel Heaven [Heaven] 01:56:200 (3,4,5) - mapped by Snepif bpm: 194

I usually start up the slider with a normal tap, but then I have trouble determining the end of the slider's beat after seeing two circles right after it. It's not so much of a problem when the bpm is lower than 150, because I can just singletap it, but anything over 160ish I start having issues trying to alternate it, and so I end up singletapping the two circles after any slider. When I alternate any of these, I mostly get one or two 100s on them, and they are always early. Singletapping it is nice for me as I would hit them on time, but then I would break my rhythm on notes after that, so I would like some tips on alternating it instead of singletapping it.

The next issue is hitting 2-circle stacks. An example:

Taken from Function Phantom - Neuronecia [Ethereal] 02:01:323 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - mapped by Amamiya Yuko (or Skystar as of today) bpm: 177

I can't seem to alternate these at all. I usually end up singletapping the entire thing but I lose rhythm throughout this segment. Even with alternating, I get lots of 100s and 50s, sometimes misses, and they're either early or late.

My last issue is kinda odd. Whenever I alternate, let's say any triplet, instead of me going 'zxz', I often times see myself go 'zxzx' or 'zxzxz', while hitting everything on time. I'm not sure if this is me over exaggerating triplet, or I force myself to hit it a couple times to be on the safe side.

Any tips would be appreciated, I'll just get everyone out of the way first that I need to git gud and play more because I'm a scrub.
Ninonuko
509 posts
Joined January 2014
Ninonuko

ColdTooth wrote:

My last issue is kinda odd. Whenever I alternate, let's say any triplet, instead of me going 'zxz', I often times see myself go 'zxzx' or 'zxzxz', while hitting everything on time. I'm not sure if this is me over exaggerating triplet, or I force myself to hit it a couple times to be on the safe side.
This issue is similiar to mine when I was like 2k pp, I'm used to end stack and stream with both finger so if the stack/stream end with a slider I hold zx on slider.
It's probably because you're not fully aware how much you should tap.
I see www doing this on adult's toy, I'm not sure if this should be fixed or not but I solve this problem by read every circle individually in stack/stream.

I don't know what you should do exactly for the rest of your issues, but it's kinda uncommon for the player around your rank tbh.
kai99
1,123 posts
Joined July 2013
kai99
Oh my god. I was going to post the exact. same. thread. Good god. To add a little onto the 2-circle ones, I want to say that I find it difficult to decide whether to singletap or doubletap those. lol. Just bumping because I want to see a bunch of suggestions here.

My last issue is kinda odd. Whenever I alternate, let's say any triplet, instead of me going 'zxz', I often times see myself go 'zxzx' or 'zxzxz', while hitting everything on time. I'm not sure if this is me over exaggerating triplet, or I force myself to hit it a couple times to be on the safe side.
THIS tho. THIS. ^^^^.
Matutetute
54 posts
Joined November 2014
Matutetute
I learned doubles by playing these maps. You have to be constantly concious, not autoplay. That is, consciously hit zx zx zx. Eventually, you will get used to it, so it will become something automatic for you, just like triples or bursts.

t/449831
Jukkii
597 posts
Joined October 2015
Jukkii
For the first issue, dont avoid the problem and play maps with alot of them and alternate them, if you use K1 for the slider, hit the first note in the double under the slider using K2 then K1 for the last note. For doubles (thats what theyre called) theyre actually really easy. I honestly prefer playing doubles over triples, theyre just easier to play. Alternate them, with doubles you can perfectly alternate. If you use K1 for singletap go K1K2 K1K2 K1K2 or like i do (i singletap with K1 using my middle finger but i start alternating patterns using my index finger using K2) K2K1 K2K1 K2K1.
For the last avoid clicking too many times and try to play maps on your skill level that you can FC
markii
107 posts
Joined August 2013
markii
What helped me A LOT with weird stacks (read: doubles, 4 stacks, and stacks at the end of a slider) was learning to alternate, it makes you more conscious of the rhythm in my experience, I don't alt as a main style, but I could switch with a small ammount of effort at this point, I'd try alting for a while it might benefit you.
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
Topic Starter
ColdTooth

Ninonuko wrote:

This issue is similiar to mine when I was like 2k pp, I'm used to end stack and stream with both finger so if the stack/stream end with a slider I hold zx on slider.
It's probably because you're not fully aware how much you should tap.
I see www doing this on adult's toy, I'm not sure if this should be fixed or not but I solve this problem by read every circle individually in stack/stream.

I don't know what you should do exactly for the rest of your issues, but it's kinda uncommon for the player around your rank tbh.
I know it's uncommon, maybe I'm a noob.

kai99 wrote:

Oh my god. I was going to post the exact. same. thread. Good god. To add a little onto the 2-circle ones, I want to say that I find it difficult to decide whether to singletap or doubletap those. lol. Just bumping because I want to see a bunch of suggestions here.
Great minds think alike.

Matutetute wrote:

I learned doubles by playing these maps. You have to be constantly concious, not autoplay. That is, consciously hit zx zx zx. Eventually, you will get used to it, so it will become something automatic for you, just like triples or bursts.

t/449831
Oh nice, I'll have to try some of these later this week. Thanks for the maps!

-Jukke- wrote:

For the first issue, dont avoid the problem and play maps with alot of them and alternate them, if you use K1 for the slider, hit the first note in the double under the slider using K2 then K1 for the last note. For doubles (thats what theyre called) theyre actually really easy. I honestly prefer playing doubles over triples, theyre just easier to play. Alternate them, with doubles you can perfectly alternate. If you use K1 for singletap go K1K2 K1K2 K1K2 or like i do (i singletap with K1 using my middle finger but i start alternating patterns using my index finger using K2) K2K1 K2K1 K2K1.
For the last avoid clicking too many times and try to play maps on your skill level that you can FC
The first solution seemed to work for me the best, as I have began starting streams with K2 instead of K1. After a few good warmup songs, I was able to nail this down, which made me alot happier. Personally, I hate doubles tbh, but I think it's only a skill that many alternating players enjoy. Maybe I am just a singletap player that should play more alternating maps.

markii wrote:

What helped me A LOT with weird stacks (read: doubles, 4 stacks, and stacks at the end of a slider) was learning to alternate, it makes you more conscious of the rhythm in my experience, I don't alt as a main style, but I could switch with a small ammount of effort at this point, I'd try alting for a while it might benefit you.
This might help me out, alternating every note, but I might have to start that around 2* maps lol.

Thanks guys for your solutions! ; )
Jukkii
597 posts
Joined October 2015
Jukkii
Im a singletapper and i love doubles. I prefer them over triples
7ambda
2,599 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda
doubles are really fun
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