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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 01:54:46

Artist: witch's slave
Title: disperagioia
Tags: gmtn witch's slave disperagioia grimoire of darnkess
BPM: 180
Filesize: 8276kb
Play Time: 03:46
Difficulties Available:
  1. Despair (5.38 stars, 1104 notes)
Download: witch's slave - disperagioia
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Hitsounding by NyarkoO
Nao
I'm bad at modding but why not give this a try.
Despair
00:21:290 (3) - move this slider a bit farther away from 00:20:957 (2) - to even out the distance in comparison with 00:20:290 (1,5) -
00:43:290 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make the spacing a bit bigger to be more consistent with the spacing here 00:41:290 (2,3,4,5) -
00:45:957 (5,6,7) - ^
01:12:790 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - add another note on the white tick
01:13:957 (1) - end this slider on the red tick
01:15:624 (1) - ^
01:16:290 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe increase the spacing here as the stream goes on to fit the piano and
01:17:624 (1) - this slider might be uncomfortable to play due to its spacing in comparison with the rest of the stream
01:17:874 (2) - ctrl+g would make this pattern look and play better while making the strong sound on 01:18:124 (3) - have more impact

01:18:124 (3) - maybe add new combo here to indicate the drastic sv change
01:18:124 (3) - end on red tick
01:19:624 (1) - ^
01:20:874 (4,1) - same as earlier on, the spacing between the last note of the stream and the kickslider is unnecessary
01:22:624 (4) - new combo
01:30:624 (4,5) - make the angle of these sliders a little bit wider to make the flow from 01:30:957 (5) - into 01:31:290 (1) - nicer

01:31:457 (2,3,4,5) - add note on blue tick between 4 and 5
01:31:957 (6,1) - this flow is bad
01:36:957 (5) - make the slider angle wider
01:41:290 (1,2) - add note on blue tick and maybe move the stack to the end of the slider for better playability
01:43:457 (2,3,4,5) - the flow here is also pretty bad because the curved triple suggests upward movement
01:46:957 (5,1) - make the slider angle wider so it flows better into 01:47:290 (1) - . there's no reason for the angle to be like that as it implies downward movement
02:05:290 (8) - i think having this slider end on the blue tick and adding another slider of the same length on the white tick so that it goes into 02:05:957 (1) - would work a lot better

02:07:290 (3) - ^
02:12:957 (1,2,3) - make the spacing between these three more consistent
02:14:124 (2,3) - this should be a triple
02:37:790 (3,4) - add a note on the white tick in between these two and make the spacing more consistent
02:40:124 (2,3) - add a note in between these
02:41:290 (7,8) - ^
02:41:624 (8,9) - ^
03:00:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe progressively increase the spacing in this pattern a little bit
03:11:624 (6) - ctrl+g would probably make this play better
03:25:040 (6) - maybe new combo
03:25:290 (1,2) - make these two part of the previous combo
03:25:457 (3) - definitely new combo here and maybe do something with the stream shape to emphasize the noticeable piano
03:25:957 (1) - there's no need for the angle of the stream to change so drastically here because there's no emphasis on anything
03:33:124 (9,1) - add a note between these
03:38:790 (5,6,7,8,9) - do something more interesting with these to put emphasis on the strong beats, maybe change the angle or spacing or both

Along with all of that, you could also add some general spacing variations throughout the map and the 2 curve sliders (like 01:25:624 (1) - idk what the proper name is) could do with some neatening up.

Alright, that's about all i have to say, I hope the feedback I provided was good enough! :D
Topic Starter
huu

Naoka wrote:

I'm bad at modding but why not give this a try.
Despair
00:21:290 (3) - move this slider a bit farther away from 00:20:957 (2) - to even out the distance in comparison with 00:20:290 (1,5) - Done
00:43:290 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make the spacing a bit bigger to be more consistent with the spacing here 00:41:290 (2,3,4,5) - Done
00:45:957 (5,6,7) - ^ - Done
01:12:790 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - add another note on the white tick - Nah, doesn't fit the rhythm imo.
01:13:957 (1) - end this slider on the red tick - Meant to emphasize the long beat in the background, declined.
01:15:624 (1) - ^ - ^
01:16:290 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe increase the spacing here as the stream goes on to fit the piano and
01:17:624 (1) - this slider might be uncomfortable to play due to its spacing in comparison with the rest of the stream - Spaced the stream more.
01:17:874 (2) - ctrl+g would make this pattern look and play better while making the strong sound on 01:18:124 (3) - have more impact - Done for now, but I might change it back later if I don't like the way it is right now.

01:18:124 (3) - maybe add new combo here to indicate the drastic sv change - Done
01:18:124 (3) - end on red tick - Yeah, meant to emphasize the beat in the background here. Denied.
01:19:624 (1) - ^ - ^
01:20:874 (4,1) - same as earlier on, the spacing between the last note of the stream and the kickslider is unnecessary - Lowered spacing.
01:22:624 (4) - new combo - Done.
01:30:624 (4,5) - make the angle of these sliders a little bit wider to make the flow from 01:30:957 (5) - into 01:31:290 (1) - nicer - Done.

01:31:457 (2,3,4,5) - add note on blue tick between 4 and 5 - Done
01:31:957 (6,1) - this flow is bad - Fixed I think.
01:36:957 (5) - make the slider angle wider - Moved some stuff around to make it more comfortable I guess.
01:41:290 (1,2) - add note on blue tick and maybe move the stack to the end of the slider for better playability - Nah, doesn't fit the rhythm imo.
01:43:457 (2,3,4,5) - the flow here is also pretty bad because the curved triple suggests upward movement - Fixed.
01:46:957 (5,1) - make the slider angle wider so it flows better into 01:47:290 (1) - . there's no reason for the angle to be like that as it implies downward movement - Done.
02:05:290 (8) - i think having this slider end on the blue tick and adding another slider of the same length on the white tick so that it goes into 02:05:957 (1) - would work a lot better - Modified this a bit.

02:07:290 (3) - ^ - Done.
02:12:957 (1,2,3) - make the spacing between these three more consistent - I guess I tried.
02:14:124 (2,3) - this should be a triple - Done
02:37:790 (3,4) - add a note on the white tick in between these two and make the spacing more consistent - Done.
02:40:124 (2,3) - add a note in between these - Done.
02:41:290 (7,8) - ^ - Done.
02:41:624 (8,9) - ^ - Done.
03:00:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe progressively increase the spacing in this pattern a little bit - Nah, I like the way it is right now.
03:11:624 (6) - ctrl+g would probably make this play better - Not exactly happy with how this flows, but I'm keeping it for now.
03:25:040 (6) - maybe new combo - Done.
03:25:290 (1,2) - make these two part of the previous combo - Done.
03:25:457 (3) - definitely new combo here and maybe do something with the stream shape to emphasize the noticeable piano - Changed a 4 notes into 2 kicksliders, adds some emphasis on the piano imo.
03:25:957 (1) - there's no need for the angle of the stream to change so drastically here because there's no emphasis on anything - Dunno, tried smoothing it out, but not exactly sure how to change the stream shape.
03:33:124 (9,1) - add a note between these - Oops. Good ears, dude.
03:38:790 (5,6,7,8,9) - do something more interesting with these to put emphasis on the strong beats, maybe change the angle or spacing or both - I'll think about this for later.

Along with all of that, you could also add some general spacing variations throughout the map and the 2 curve sliders (like 01:25:624 (1) - idk what the proper name is) could do with some neatening up. - I'll think about this I guess.

Alright, that's about all i have to say, I hope the feedback I provided was good enough! :D
Wasn't exactly looking to take mods for this map, but thanks for the feedback.
I'll consider what you suggested.

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Blue = Comment
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Nao

huu wrote:

01:12:790 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - add another note on the white tick - Nah, doesn't fit the rhythm imo.
having an even amount of notes makes streams awkward to play, they should start and end with the same key (xzxzx not xzxz)

if you don't want to add a note on the white tick, i would suggest using a 1/4 kickslider on 01:13:457 (4) - to keep the rhythm and make the stream play better
Topic Starter
huu

Naoka wrote:

huu wrote:

01:12:790 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - add another note on the white tick - Nah, doesn't fit the rhythm imo.
having an even amount of notes makes streams awkward to play, they should start and end with the same key (xzxzx not xzxz)

if you don't want to add a note on the white tick, i would suggest using a 1/4 kickslider on 01:13:457 (4) - to keep the rhythm and make the stream play better
Alright, I did the kickslider thing.
Thanks for the suggestion!
- e - v - b-
Coming from the reddit post, small little mod for you after looking through the map :D

Despair
SPOILER
00:09:290 (3,4) - maybe make spacing for equal between 00:07:957 (1,2) - ?
00:14:290 (2) - center the note on the X-axis for aesthetics? (256 X coordinates incase you don't know)

00:15:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same for this pattern, specifically 00:15:290 (1,4) -

00:20:957 (2,4,6) - maybe overlap?

00:32:957 (5) - same as above

00:36:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - in my opinion having these slowly getting lower spaced would make it fit the song more

00:41:290 (2,3) - this really stood out, i'd recommend copying 00:41:290 (2) - to the other side so it's even

01:12:790 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - maybe make the stream shape cleaner and change the nc from 01:13:207 (1) - to 01:13:207 (1,4) - (no note to warrant a nc on 01:13:207 (1) - )

01:22:540 (10,1) - keep the spacing consistent

02:08:290 (3) - nc

02:16:540 (4,1) - not sure if this is intended to be an easier version of the song or just a difficult version that is a bit easier, but this stream jump kinda comes out of nowhere

02:48:290 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - most of these notes have almost no supporting beats on slider starts, i recommend changing it to 1/2 sliders with a 1/4 note on each head such as https://i.gyazo.com/135fd28a29c10f84a5b ... 4024c5.png

03:25:374 (5,1) - lower spacing between the two and turn convert 03:25:624 (2) - into a stream as it makes the rest of the stream really awkward to play

03:42:790 (2) - nc or take the nc away from 03:42:624 (1) -

03:43:124 (6,5,5,7) - i'd recommend changing these notes to kicksliders as otherwise the rhythm feels somewhat off

all in all a pretty good map, i think you should maybe try to make the slider shapes a bit more consistent throughout though :) glad to see how far you've come from your previous map, i'd be willing to GD if you want one :D
good luck on it if you are going for rank!
Topic Starter
huu

- e - v - b- wrote:

Coming from the reddit post, small little mod for you after looking through the map :D

Despair
SPOILER
00:09:290 (3,4) - maybe make spacing for equal between 00:07:957 (1,2) - ? - Nah, the time frame between 3 and 4 is much larger than between 1 and 2, so having equal spacing is unnecessary.
00:14:290 (2) - center the note on the X-axis for aesthetics? (256 X coordinates incase you don't know) - Nah, collides with the triangle section afterwards, which I don't like personally.

00:15:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same for this pattern, specifically 00:15:290 (1,4) - Nah, I like how it looks now.

00:20:957 (2,4,6) - maybe overlap? - Nah.

00:32:957 (5) - same as above - Nah.

00:36:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - in my opinion having these slowly getting lower spaced would make it fit the song more - I agree.

00:41:290 (2,3) - this really stood out, i'd recommend copying 00:41:290 (2) - to the other side so it's even - I think I tried.

01:12:790 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - maybe make the stream shape cleaner and change the nc from 01:13:207 (1) - to 01:13:207 (1,4) - (no note to warrant a nc on 01:13:207 (1) - ) - I don't really get what you wanted to say here, but I changed the stream shape and removed the NC I guess.

01:22:540 (10,1) - keep the spacing consistent - Huh, changing this around gave me a better aesthetic idea, thanks.

02:08:290 (3) - nc - Unnecessary.

02:16:540 (4,1) - not sure if this is intended to be an easier version of the song or just a difficult version that is a bit easier, but this stream jump kinda comes out of nowhere - Fixed.

02:48:290 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - most of these notes have almost no supporting beats on slider starts, i recommend changing it to 1/2 sliders with a 1/4 note on each head such as https://i.gyazo.com/135fd28a29c10f84a5b ... 4024c5.png - Done, I think.

03:25:374 (5,1) - lower spacing between the two and turn convert 03:25:624 (2) - into a stream as it makes the rest of the stream really awkward to play - Supporting beats for the dominant piano in that bit, so no, I'll leave it as is, sorry. I did lower the spacing of the kicksliders a bit though, so hopefully that takes the awkwardness out a bit.

03:42:790 (2) - nc or take the nc away from 03:42:624 (1) - Unnecessary.

03:43:124 (6,5,5,7) - i'd recommend changing these notes to kicksliders as otherwise the rhythm feels somewhat off - Changed.

all in all a pretty good map, i think you should maybe try to make the slider shapes a bit more consistent throughout though :) glad to see how far you've come from your previous map, i'd be willing to GD if you want one :D - Up to you, my dude.
good luck on it if you are going for rank! - Not going for rank, unfortunately.
I'll get to your mod after my friend does the hitsounding, thanks.

(though I'm not asking for mods ;;)

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Orange = Tried/Will think for later
Red = Denied
Blue = Comment
Uncolored = I don't get it
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