REOL - drop pop candy [OsuMania|CatchTheBeat|Osu] · forum

Nysrogh

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Nysrogh 2017-02-19T07:58:42+00:00

19/02
- I back :V
- Added Easy
- Update ctb diffs
- update o!m diffs
- mod pnx
23/02
- Update Sang diff
- Applied Hydria mod , also fix the problems with that on 7K Hard thanks ^-^

Last edited by Nysrogh 2017-02-23T03:51:40+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Nysrogh

296 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Nysrogh 2017-02-19T11:36:04+00:00

PnX wrote:
~~Marked 4 mod~~

Sorry for a late mod

4K Hard Edit on : 14/2
00:07:113 - Should be 1/8 ? cuz it's hardest difficulty, suggests this pattern http://puu.sh/u2rGD/9610c68dbc.jpg don't really sure about this but... ok
00:08:844 - maybe you might miss this sound? add a note to represent this sound miss
00:09:190 (9190|3) - This LN sound like 00:08:267 - but 00:08:267 - is a single tap note. So, I suggests changing 00:08:267 - to LN for consistency. re-arrange
00:09:305 - Here, have same sound as the further pattern. But, I know it's hard to place note here. So, maybe you should change a pattern to http://puu.sh/u2s3I/0c0ac13eed.jpg (from 00:08:959 - ) or maybe you should wait for further mod to decide this point. re-arrange
00:11:728 - You should use same pattern with 00:08:036 - or maybe you should adjust 00:08:036 - to be like 00:11:728 - same
00:12:536 - maybe you might miss this sound too? add a note miss
00:19:113 - I hear the sound like 00:17:959 (17959|3,18190|0,18421|1,18652|2,18882|3) - Maybe you should add LN in this position for these sound. nope
00:20:382 - Same sound as 00:20:267 (20267|1) - yep
00:26:498 (26498|3,27652|0,28113|3,28575|0) - Maybe this LN should long about 1/2 (half of what it be now) cuz of their sound length. (pic : http://puu.sh/u2sGQ/25fad18eb4.jpg) sure
00:30:190 (30190|0) - This sound is longer than this LN. Please adjust it to suit the sound. my bad
00:33:305 - Add a note i don't hear nothing
00:37:921 - Here too. But, in case of a pattern, maybe you don't have to change here. keep the pattern
00:41:152 - 00:42:998 - 00:43:921 - 00:44:382 - Add a note sure
00:53:613 - Same sound as 00:53:152 - my bad
00:55:921 - Miss some sound? suggested adding the note x2
00:58:575 (58575|3,58575|0,59036|0,59036|3) - Why doubled? For the vocal pattern
01:00:536 ok - 01:01:459 hear nothing - Miss this sound? add a note here
01:02:267 (62267|1,62267|3,62728|2,62728|0) - Why doubled here? same sound as 01:01:805
01:07:921 - 01:10:228 - 01:18:075 - 01:21:305 - 01:24:998 - 01:26:844 - 01:28:228 - Add a note
sure
01:36:421 (96421|3) - Maybe move to 1? keep

Overall (for me) is not bad. But, you miss many sound that sometime you put it and consistency of a chart is not good enough for me.
That's it

Thanks for the mod =w= Still not sure about 1/8 pattern

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2017-02-20T12:39:06+00:00

Hey Nysrogh, I just done the hitsounding. Well,it was fun to help to end it too. It sounds cool as being tweak it. Here is the new update...

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Hydria

1,229 posts

Joined April 2011

Hydria 2017-02-22T13:49:03+00:00

uno/dos/tres/quatro

4K Hard

00:01:113 (1113|3,1113|1,1344|0,1344|2) - I feel like these should only be one note due to the uniqueness of their sounds

00:02:036 (2036|3,2036|2,2267|2,2267|3) - similar to the last point, these should be just 1x1/4 LNs instead of doubles, pref in the same column

00:02:959 (2959|1,2959|3) - same here

00:06:536 - place a note on 3 since there is a very quiet sound there and it gives more feeling towards 00:06:594 (6594|3) -

00:07:171 (7171|0,7286|2,7402|2,7517|0) - I don't hear any sounds for these notes

00:15:421 (15421|3,15652|1) - you have these LNs why aren't they also 00:16:344 (16344|1,16575|2) - here

00:19:113 - there's a load of places for LNs here that are just ignored

00:31:459 (31459|1) - don't think this note has sound to it
00:35:152 (35152|1) - same here
00:41:152 (41152|1) - same here
00:43:113 - and in quite a lot of places from here until 00:44:959 -
00:59:152 (59152|1) - shouldn't be there

01:15:767 - there SHOULD be a note here

you might wanna go through this entire thing with hitsounds off and check which notes are ghost notes and which aren't because from what I can hear this map is littered with them and as standards go they aren't rankable

good luck with the mapset

Nysrogh

296 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Nysrogh 2017-02-23T03:48:49+00:00

Hydria wrote:
uno/dos/tres/quatro

4K Hard
00:01:113 (1113|3,1113|1,1344|0,1344|2) - I feel like these should only be one note due to the uniqueness of their sounds

00:02:036 (2036|3,2036|2,2267|2,2267|3) - similar to the last point, these should be just 1x1/4 LNs instead of doubles, pref in the same column

00:02:959 (2959|1,2959|3) - same here
I don't understand the second part good xD will ask you when i catch you online

00:06:536 - place a note on 3 since there is a very quiet sound there and it gives more feeling towards 00:06:594 (6594|3) - sure

00:07:171 (7171|0,7286|2,7402|2,7517|0) - I don't hear any sounds for these notes my bad

00:15:421 (15421|3,15652|1) - you have these LNs why aren't they also 00:16:344 (16344|1,16575|2) - here fixed

00:19:113 - there's a load of places for LNs here that are just ignored yee idk why i not mapped them xD fixed

00:31:459 (31459|1) - don't think this note has sound to it >_< ye don't have sound delete and re arrange pattern
00:35:152 (35152|1) - same here i hear a sound :_:
00:41:152 (41152|1) - same here same of 31
00:43:113 - and in quite a lot of places from here until 00:44:959 -
00:59:152 (59152|1) - shouldn't be there
thanks delete all ghost notes and found others sounds to map haha

01:15:767 - there SHOULD be a note heresure

you might wanna go through this entire thing with hitsounds off and check which notes are ghost notes and which aren't because from what I can hear this map is littered with them and as standards go they aren't rankable

good luck with the mapset

Remuring

556 posts

Joined May 2015

Remuring 2017-02-23T12:15:57+00:00

Hello >w<))//

4K 1 | 2 | 3 | 4
7K 1 | 2| 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7

4K Hard

00:14:844 - I hear the drum here add note
So change the pattern here
00:14:728 (14728|2,14728|0,14959|1,14959|3) -

00:50:959 - this also change the pattern

01:29:728 - add note

7K Normal

00:01:344 (1344|5,1344|1) - move to 3/7

00:02:036 (2036|5,2036|3,2267|3,2267|1) - move to 3/5

Good map! GL <3
shooooot

Nysrogh

296 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Nysrogh 2017-02-24T00:43:00+00:00

R e m u r i n g wrote:
Hello >w<))//

4K 1 | 2 | 3 | 4
7K 1 | 2| 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7

4K Hard
00:14:844 - I hear the drum here add note
So change the pattern here
00:14:728 (14728|2,14728|0,14959|1,14959|3) -

00:50:959 - this also change the pattern

01:29:728 - add note

7K Normal
00:01:344 (1344|5,1344|1) - move to 3/7

00:02:036 (2036|5,2036|3,2267|3,2267|1) - move to 3/5

Good map! GL <3
shooooot

lol thanks for the star, >_< all applied <3

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2017-02-26T05:11:50+00:00

A few improvements on the Cup diff,anyway. Mod needed for it,plz give postive comment fr it. Hitsounds changed and pattern is about spacing some notes.

Here is the update

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Soul Evans

Elite Mapper

425 posts

Joined June 2014

Soul Evans 2017-03-01T18:30:15+00:00

Soul's Modding
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7

General

BPM: Okay
Offset: Okay
AiMod: Okay
Tags: Okay
BG: Okay
Kiai: Okay
Metadata: Okay
Folder’s problem: None
Hitsound: Okay
Timing: Okay
Other: Okay
[7K Normal]
00:06:882 (6882|4,6998|3) - Think it would be better if you moved those to column 6 and 5 will give a better spacing.
00:12:652 (12652|6) - Move this a bit closer to the note before it, so i'd recommend 6
00:13:113 (13113|0) - think this is too far for a bracket, hence i'd ask you to move to column 3
00:15:882 - to loud of a snare, so i will ask to add another note to distinguish between the sounds you already placed notes on, so add a note on 6
00:17:267 (17267|6) - Don't make the note far off the LN, so i'd choose to move it in closely
00:38:498 (38498|0,38498|4,38613|2,38728|5,38728|1,38844|4,38959|6,38959|3) - Would kinda recommend ctrl+H this, all the streamy patterns i've seen you used was kinda pointed towards the right so may make this turn left for the sake of no hand bias
01:01:113 (61113|5) - maybe move this to 6 to also compliment the consistency, since you used it too for the pattern ahead
01:05:036 (65036|3,65152|1,65267|3,65498|1,65613|3,65728|1) - Don't really think this is good, maybe a bit rigid for players that can barely play
01:06:767 (66767|1) - Move that to 1 and move 01:06:882 (66882|2) - to 3 think this would make it less confusing for the hand
01:07:113 (67113|1) - Move this to 2 for consistency in patterning

Couldn't find anything wrong with Hard, kinda like it, GL!

Nysrogh

296 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Nysrogh 2017-03-01T20:08:52+00:00

Soul Evans wrote:
Soul's Modding
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7
General

BPM: Okay
Offset: Okay
AiMod: Okay
Tags: Okay
BG: Okay
Kiai: Okay
Metadata: Okay
Folder’s problem: None
Hitsound: Okay
Timing: Okay
Other: Okay
[7K Normal]
00:06:882 (6882|4,6998|3) - Think it would be better if you moved those to column 6 and 5 will give a better spacing.
00:12:652 (12652|6) - Move this a bit closer to the note before it, so i'd recommend 6
00:13:113 (13113|0) - think this is too far for a bracket, hence i'd ask you to move to column 3
00:15:882 - to loud of a snare, so i will ask to add another note to distinguish between the sounds you already placed notes on, so add a note on 6
00:17:267 (17267|6) - Don't make the note far off the LN, so i'd choose to move it in closely
00:38:498 (38498|0,38498|4,38613|2,38728|5,38728|1,38844|4,38959|6,38959|3) - Would kinda recommend ctrl+H this, all the streamy patterns i've seen you used was kinda pointed towards the right so may make this turn left for the sake of no hand bias
01:01:113 (61113|5) - maybe move this to 6 to also compliment the consistency, since you used it too for the pattern ahead keep the 1 3 5 7
01:05:036 (65036|3,65152|1,65267|3,65498|1,65613|3,65728|1) - Don't really think this is good, maybe a bit rigid for players that can barely play
01:06:767 (66767|1) - Move that to 1 and move 01:06:882 (66882|2) - to 3 think this would make it less confusing for the hand
01:07:113 (67113|1) - Move this to 2 for consistency in patterning
Couldn't find anything wrong with Hard, kinda like it, GL!

No reply = applied thanks for the mod <3

Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2017-03-03T19:21:24+00:00

wow this rain diff sucks

lul

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it doesn't have hitsounding

wake me up inside

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2017-03-04T01:23:28+00:00

osu file format v14

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Creator:Nysrogh
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Tags:Megurine Luka Kagamine Rin Giga-P key No title No title  short version ver [Nico] SangKrazF1nal3 breathless Absolute Zero Shiro Delis Fumika Kaifin Kujinn
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Can I get modded?
This time,it is nice done for ctb,have a look and hope had helping on your progress.

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2017-03-23T14:30:28+00:00

Hello again,it is Cup refinement. Sorry if the previous on looks like too spacy,this time I try to fix the problem too. It should be ok now,instead of making it too hard. I just make it too suits lower players.
Good Luck ^^

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-03-23T15:15:30+00:00

Note for next time: please put your code inside a [box=] or [spoilerbox] so the thread is easier to read (:

CLSW

osu! Alumni

2,182 posts

Joined October 2010

CLSW 2017-03-23T15:31:54+00:00

[Platter]
00:02:959 (2,3) - This one has high potential to get a jump, how about to change 00:03:190 (3) - more vertical?
00:06:190 (1,2) - Due to the ranking criteria 1/4 HDash on 120+ bpm is not rankable in platter difficulty in general. Please avoid to use them in whole settings
00:23:267 (3) - Flow suggestion, how about to ctrl + g this?
00:41:728 (2) - Flow suggestion

SPOILER

00:42:190 (3,4) - Same as 00:06:190 (1,2)
00:48:190 (2,3) - imo it's not enough to make good sense with its music here, how about to make 00:48:190 (2) - horizontal and add a repeat to give actual accent?

SPOILER

01:07:344 (2,3,4) - In this section I wanna see more distances, it's not enough
01:18:882 (2,3) - Edge dash

it's not recommendable stuff, please reduce more or add HDash instead

[Rain]
00:48:421 (8,1) - Looks pretty much like edge dash, please consider to reduce a bit more or add HDash
01:01:113 (3,1) - Flow breaker here, I would like to add a repeat on 01:01:113 (3) - and add HDash on 01:02:267 (4) - instead
01:14:036 (6) - Potential HDash-able zone on its end
01:20:959 (3) - Edge dash complex
01:24:421 (2,3) - ^, also it can be more considered because of the antiflow on 01:24:882 (3) -

[Nico]

73 posts

Joined August 2011

[Nico] 2017-04-01T02:45:28+00:00

CLSW wrote:
[Platter]
00:02:959 (2,3) - This one has high potential to get a jump, how about to change 00:03:190 (3) - more vertical? 00:03:190 (3) - ctrl H and I moved it a bit, I tried to match the distances with 00:02:959 (2) - and 00:03:882 (4) -
00:06:190 (1,2) - Due to the ranking criteria 1/4 HDash on 120+ bpm is not rankable in platter difficulty in general. Please avoid to use them in whole settings Thanks for this, I ctrl h 00:06:190 (1) - and moved to x:384, and I replaced the 1/4 slider for 2 circles in x:400 and x:456
00:23:267 (3) - Flow suggestion, how about to ctrl + g this? I like it
00:41:728 (2) - Flow suggestion I think I did it well
SPOILER
00:42:190 (3,4) - Same as 00:06:190 (1,2) I moved the slider at 00:42:652 (5) and reduced to 1/2, added a circle in 00:42:536 -
00:48:190 (2,3) - imo it's not enough to make good sense with its music here, how about to make 00:48:190 (2) - horizontal and add a repeat to give actual accent? done, thanks ;o
SPOILER
01:07:344 (2,3,4) - In this section I wanna see more distances, it's not enough 01:07:575 (3) - x:216, 01:07:805 (4) - x:104, looks well I guess
01:18:882 (2,3) - Edge dash it's not recommendable stuff, please reduce more or add HDash instead I changed the sv to 1.5 to generate a HDash

Thanks for all

♥

Update

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Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2017-04-14T16:06:28+00:00

CLSW wrote:
[Rain]
00:48:421 (8,1) - Looks pretty much like edge dash, please consider to reduce a bit more or add HDash Increased to HDash.
01:01:113 (3,1) - Flow breaker here, I would like to add a repeat on 01:01:113 (3) - and add HDash on 01:02:267 (4) - instead Reworked pattern to a back-forth to make it more consistent and flowy.
01:14:036 (6) - Potential HDash-able zone on its end Made it a stronger dash.
01:20:959 (3) - Edge dash complex I'm missing where the edge dash is...? I think it plays pretty easily as all you really need to do is hold dash.
01:24:421 (2,3) - ^, also it can be more considered because of the antiflow on 01:24:882 (3) - ??? I don't understand.

Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2017-04-21T15:06:41+00:00

Making other changes, hence why I don't post my diff yet. I have applied mods, however.

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2017-04-21T22:35:11+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
Making other changes, hence why I don't post my diff yet. I have applied mods, however.

Well said,I can see lower diff are abandoned. It is not the diff tough to mod and just we need testplayers too for ctb supports/ rather modding would still the only way

Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2017-04-25T01:51:10+00:00

Took a look at lower diffs just to push this process along.

[Cup]
It's a good start, but it needs work.

AR must equal OD!
I'd prefer if you didn't make ar6.1 and either keep it 6 or go to, say, 6.5. No point in making it a tiny bit larger.

00:02:959 (4) - I don't hear 1/2 beat on the repeated end of this slider. Please make this simply a 1/2 slider.
00:04:344 - Make 00:04:575 (1) a 1/1 slider starting here instead because you really, really, really need to hit that strong loud downbeat!
00:06:652 (1) - Surprisingly low distancing
00:07:344 - I would add a hitcircle here just because it goes to a louder intro sound.
00:08:498 (3,1) - Unrankable: No dashes in sliders!
00:09:421 - Strong beat here you miss. I'd rather you have a 1/2 slider starting here and a hitcircle on 00:09:882 instead.
00:11:959 (3) - Why do you have a 1/4 repeat slider here? There's no sound.
00:14:036 (2) - If you're following the vocals here, you might as well hit this note because it's a really strong vocal sound, but another idea is to make
00:19:344 (1) - Make this a 1/2 repeat slider for vocals.
00:20:036 (2) - Make this a 1/1 slider if you're following the vocals to simplify this on a cup instead.

Instead of continuing my mod, I'm going to give a few pointers that you should apply throughout the map, since this seems to be a reoccuring problem. The stuff above should be changed and is an example of what I look at.

Spacing: Reminder that spacing should reflect distance in time in a cup. Instances like 00:18:190 (2,3), where it is too low, occur multiple times. The issue is this has a 1/1 beat in between it while 00:16:344 (4,1) is far too large with a 1/2 beat instead. Remember that cups should be an introduction to maps with relatively consistent spacing, or at least spacing that reflects the music.
This is 1/1...
But this is 1/2!
Movement: You often have uncomfortable movements like 00:17:498 (1,2). This is called "antiflow" because in my definition, antiflow occurs with an unnatural catcher movement where the catcher would usually move in the opposite direction. Try to avoid complex movements in cups as they're still introductions!
Following the Music: This is the fundamental thing in a map! Sometimes I lose what your notes are following in the music. I'd avoid hitting softer beats in a cup to simplify things and either follow the voice or the instrumentals. You sometimes switch to a 1/1 beat such as 00:20:959 (3,4) and it doesn't make any sense why you do it. This can be disorientating for cup players. Don't add beats, either. For cups I would avoid 1/4 as much as possible, and sometimes these 1/4 come in places that don't call for 1/4 repeat sliders.
Comboing: Your comboing doesn't make sense. Combos are meant to avoid stacking on the platter and should be renewed around 8 OBJECTS. (Not 8 combo, 8 objects!)

[Salad]
What strikes me about this is the lack of dashes within the map. It's all easily walkable. I would boost your map's difficulty up a bit by adding dashes where they fit. Do a bit of self-evaluation and remember that dashes fit well on buildups, strong beats, and emphasized pitch shifts. Don't overdo it! This could use a bit of polishing in terms of patterning.
00:16:344 (2) - I would make this a 1/1 slider then a hitcircle on 00:17:036. Or, even better, make hitcircles on 00:16:344 and 00:16:113 (2) and a 1/2 slider on 00:16:805.
00:17:267 (1,2,3,1,2) - Inconsistency in what you follow on 00:22:805 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) (1/1 beat versus voice).
00:28:113 (1) - Don't cover up the strong beat on 00:28:344

Make this a 1/2 slider and hit 00:28:575 if you're hitting 00:27:421 (3).
00:29:267 (1,2) - Unnecessary 1/4 slider repeats here. You can make this just a 1/1 slider.
00:44:959 (1) - You mask the male voice here at 00:45:190, which you don't do a place like 00:48:882 (2).
00:46:805 (1) - Same story as above, but it's weird that you're missing the 1/2 beat at 00:47:498 that's pretty audible in this case.
00:50:498 (1,2,3,4) - This is a buildup. Don't you want at least a stronger movement or a dash to 00:51:882 (4,1)? I would rethink this pattern to be more dynamic.
01:11:036 (1) - Inconsistency in rhythm here. Make this a hitcircle.
01:11:728 (2) - Ending on a strong beat. Additionally, the distancing to 01:12:882 (1) is extremely low, which is weird compared to its context. Increase the distancing at least.
01:21:882 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Unrankable: you need at least 1 beat between each note and spinner. Additionally, could you find a more creative pattern? It's really disappointing at the end and then surprising when you have those last few notes.
These are general points. I haven't started mentioning patterning yet because I'd rather you look at other salads to get a better sense of regular patterns. The patterns you have right now either don't have much movement to them or are not very interesting due to their monotony and overusage.

That's all for now--I may look at these in further detail later.

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2017-04-28T18:19:10+00:00

I'm here because I'm doing a M4M where my map gets modded but az mods the map for me and because AZ said he'd do it if I modded his map, so it's kind of a M4M4M don't try understand it

[

Absolute Zero's Rain]

00:02:498 (1,2) - Make this larger so you have to dash it, right now it's walkable
00:03:190 (2) - Droplets here are a mess, try using another slider shape
00:04:344 (1) - The antiflow ehre feels weird at the start of the map. Either remove it or make it easier
00:14:267 (2) - I get what you're trying to do with these but the resulting droplets are quite the mess
00:23:267 (2) - ctrl-g this, since right now it's breaking the flow hard
00:26:498 (4) - Make this into a slider that ends on 00:26:728 - since you're missing a beat there. Have the slider face right and be around x:120. The pattern flows way better that way
00:42:190 (3) - Shorten this slider to 00:42:421 - and have and hdash to a circle on 00:42:652 -
00:48:190 (7) - The Hdash should be to this note, not 00:47:959 (6) -

I don't know how to mod rains what am I doing here

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2017-04-29T04:16:23+00:00

[ From Absolute Zero's commentary ]
Took a look at lower diffs just to push this process along.

Cup
It's a good start, but it needs work.

AR must equal OD! Done
I'd prefer if you didn't make ar6.1 and either keep it 6 or go to, say, 6.5. No point in making it a tiny bit larger. Changing it to 5.5 for both AR n OD

00:02:959 (4) - I don't hear 1/2 beat on the repeated end of this slider. Please make this simply a 1/2 slider. I make it as filler so I will keep the slider as if changed might interrupt the pattern
00:04:344 - Make 00:04:575 (1) a 1/1 slider starting here instead because you really, really, really need to hit that strong loud downbeat! Done it
00:06:652 (1) - Surprisingly low distancing I tried to moving it apart,let's see
00:07:344 - I would add a hitcircle here just because it goes to a louder intro sound.Filled the empty spot too
00:08:498 (3,1) - Unrankable: No dashes in sliders!Fixed
00:09:421 - Strong beat here you miss. I'd rather you have a 1/2 slider starting here and a hitcircle on 00:09:882 instead.Done that
00:11:959 (3) - Why do you have a 1/4 repeat slider here? There's no sound.Removed repeat slider n make it just 1/2 silder as filler
00:14:036 (2) - If you're following the vocals here, you might as well hit this note because it's a really strong vocal sound, but another idea is to make
00:19:344 (1) - Make this a 1/2 repeat slider for vocals.Cool,it is good spot
00:20:036 (2) - Make this a 1/1 slider if you're following the vocals to simplify this on a cup instead.Not literally following sometimes,as some part it might being too spacy. I am avoiding it

Instead of continuing my mod, I'm going to give a few pointers that you should apply throughout the map, since this seems to be a reoccuring problem. The stuff above should be changed and is an example of what I look at.

Spacing: Reminder that spacing should reflect distance in time in a cup. Instances like 00:18:190 (2,3), where it is too low, occur multiple times. The issue is this has a 1/1 beat in between it while 00:16:344 (4,1) is far too large with a 1/2 beat instead. Remember that cups should be an introduction to maps with relatively consistent spacing, or at least spacing that reflects the music.
This is 1/1...

But this is 1/2!
Movement: You often have uncomfortable movements like 00:17:498 (1,2). This is called "antiflow" because in my definition, antiflow occurs with an unnatural catcher movement where the catcher would usually move in the opposite direction. Try to avoid complex movements in cups as they're still introductions!
Following the Music: This is the fundamental thing in a map! Sometimes I lose what your notes are following in the music. I'd avoid hitting softer beats in a cup to simplify things and either follow the voice or the instrumentals. You sometimes switch to a 1/1 beat such as 00:20:959 (3,4) and it doesn't make any sense why you do it. This can be disorientating for cup players. Don't add beats, either. For cups I would avoid 1/4 as much as possible, and sometimes these 1/4 come in places that don't call for 1/4 repeat sliders.
Comboing: Your comboing doesn't make sense. Combos are meant to avoid stacking on the platter and should be renewed around 8 OBJECTS. (Not 8 combo, 8 objects!)

Based on the mod,it is true I am lack of music feels. I will try to improving it on next one. Combos,spacing should be fixed for now. I trying to improving it more whenever I had free time for it

The update is coming,

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YukaRei

201 posts

Joined May 2014

YukaRei 2017-04-30T01:07:20+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
Took a look at lower diffs just to push this process along.

[Salad]
What strikes me about this is the lack of dashes within the map. It's all easily walkable. I would boost your map's difficulty up a bit by adding dashes where they fit. Do a bit of self-evaluation and remember that dashes fit well on buildups, strong beats, and emphasized pitch shifts. Don't overdo it! This could use a bit of polishing in terms of patterning.
00:16:344 (2) - I would make this a 1/1 slider then a hitcircle on 00:17:036. Or, even better, make hitcircles on 00:16:344 and 00:16:113 (2) and a 1/2 slider on 00:16:805.
00:17:267 (1,2,3,1,2) - Inconsistency in what you follow on 00:22:805 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) (1/1 beat versus voice).
00:28:113 (1) - Don't cover up the strong beat on 00:28:344 Make this a 1/2 slider and hit 00:28:575 if you're hitting 00:27:421 (3).
00:29:267 (1,2) - Unnecessary 1/4 slider repeats here. You can make this just a 1/1 slider.
00:44:959 (1) - You mask the male voice here at 00:45:190, which you don't do a place like 00:48:882 (2).
00:46:805 (1) - Same story as above, but it's weird that you're missing the 1/2 beat at 00:47:498 that's pretty audible in this case.
00:50:498 (1,2,3,4) - This is a buildup. Don't you want at least a stronger movement or a dash to 00:51:882 (4,1)? I would rethink this pattern to be more dynamic.
01:11:036 (1) - Inconsistency in rhythm here. Make this a hitcircle.
01:11:728 (2) - Ending on a strong beat. Additionally, the distancing to 01:12:882 (1) is extremely low, which is weird compared to its context. Increase the distancing at least.
01:21:882 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Unrankable: you need at least 1 beat between each note and spinner. Additionally, could you find a more creative pattern? It's really disappointing at the end and then surprising when you have those last few notes.
These are general points. I haven't started mentioning patterning yet because I'd rather you look at other salads to get a better sense of regular patterns. The patterns you have right now either don't have much movement to them or are not very interesting due to their monotony and overusage.

That's all for now--I may look at these in further detail later.

My maps sucks and this salad too. All fixed I think, thx

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Crumpey

563 posts

Joined October 2013

Crumpey 2017-05-02T05:49:45+00:00

as requested in Crumpey's modding queue

4k Normal and 4k Hard opinions

4k Normal(Mod)
00:44:959 (44959|0,45882|2,46805|0,47498|2,47959|1,48421|3,48882|1,49344|2,49575|3) - Remove Lns, they dont serve a purpose, replace with a single note
00:53:382 (53382|2,53613|1) - ghost notes
00:54:998 (54998|3) - same with this
00:57:305 (57305|2) - i get what your doing here, but you not consistant with it, either remove it or make other places like this also have a note there
01:06:767 (66767|0,66998|1) - remove theses 2
01:15:421 - you forgot to map on the blue ticks here?

4k Hard(Opinions)
Imo you dont need a hard diff, all it currently feels like is an overmapped version of Normal. almost every note placed on the blue tick isnt necessary and it makes it feel like a dump map. I dont think you need it at all

Good song choice, and sorry for the real late mod XD

Nysrogh

296 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Nysrogh 2017-05-05T00:33:49+00:00

Ok, i going to take serious on this map

let's rank this
Stuff to do:
Rework 4K diffs and 7K diffs
4K Normal, Ready.
4K Hard, WIP
7K Normal, WIP
7K Hard, WIP

About CtB diffs, wait for one more mod :thinking: and call a nominator
About std diffs, dunno I need a Hard AHHH
Get Hitsounds for mania diffs

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2017-05-21T09:25:51+00:00

Hey there,I just doing some improvisations for CUP.
Here is the update...

SPOILER

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Creator:Nysrogh
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184,200,91113,6,0,P|104:168|56:200,2,140,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,184,92498,2,0,L|384:152,1,70,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,120,92959,1,8,0:0:0:0:
216,120,93421,6,0,L|312:120,2,70
104,120,94344,2,2,L|72:208,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,240,95036,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,208,95267,6,8,P|296:192|352:128,1,140
232,128,96190,2,2,B|232:104|232:104|248:88,2,35

Good Luck

Reba

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Reba 2017-05-22T06:59:41+00:00

Un pequeño mod que me pediste

Columns : | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |

[7K Hard]
00:00:652 - este timing completamente merece tener el long note, solo porque es la nota inicial no significa que deberia de ser una excepcion. Haz que una nota sea LN en la columna 3 y la que la otra nota este en la columna 7. Asi se ve bien en mi opinion

00:01:113 (1113|6) - la estructura de los patrones despues de esto es que despues de terminar cada 2 long notes se puede ver que estan compuestas de dos notas. Esto tambien merece tenerlo. Agrega una nota en la columna 1

00:05:036 (5036|0,5152|1,5267|0,5267|2) - Este patron puede ser un poco complicado para jugadores que jueguen este nivel, podrias mover 00:05:267 (5267|0) - esto a la columna 7 para que sea mas simple

00:08:844 - Agrega una nota en columna 3. Se puede oir lo que pusiste en partes como 00:09:305 (9305|1)

00:20:498 (20498|4) - en todas las partes anteriores con sonido similar le haz puesto 3 notas. Borra la nota seleccionada para mantener la consistencia

00:20:728 (20728|2) - siento que esta mejor si lo pones en la columna 4 ya que en la siguiente parte la columna 5 repite.

Y pues la estructura de lo demás es muy similar entonces no puedo tocarla

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