1. Advent (6.84 stars, 689 notes)
2. Casca's Hard (3.1 stars, 86 notes)
3. Judeau's Insane (4.85 stars, 390 notes)
4. Slan's Hell Extra (5.93 stars, 535 notes)

1. Berserker (6.73 stars, 687 notes)
2. Mercy (5.54 stars, 509 notes)

Faces wrote:

posting for kds xd

SPOILER

2017-01-17 19:43 Artorias: ayy can u testplay my shitmep?
2017-01-17 19:45 Faces: k
2017-01-17 19:45 Artorias: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8edi ... S1adWd1QW8
2017-01-17 19:45 Artorias: sorry for gdrive link LUL
2017-01-17 19:46 Faces: wait
2017-01-17 19:46 Faces: need to find my other pen xd
2017-01-17 19:46 Artorias: kekems
2017-01-17 19:46 Faces: k found it
2017-01-17 19:48 Artorias: noice noice ^^
2017-01-17 19:48 Artorias: k anything weird about the map on first glance?
2017-01-17 19:48 Artorias: anything felt weird in sightread?
2017-01-17 19:48 Artorias: (dont mention the spinner LUL)
2017-01-17 19:48 Faces: lmao
2017-01-17 19:48 Faces: 00:57:920 (1,2) -
2017-01-17 19:49 Faces: the rhythm here isn't the same as how 00:56:074 (1,2,1,2) - was and it felt kinda weird to play
2017-01-17 19:49 Artorias: fixed, made it into a slider for further tweaking
2017-01-17 19:49 Artorias: will not have note there
2017-01-17 19:50 Faces: 01:02:536 (1,1,1) - could just have bursts with repeat sliders here
2017-01-17 19:50 Faces: which is what i would have said
2017-01-17 19:50 Faces: if i didn't pay attention to the what the patterns before it followed xd
2017-01-17 19:50 Faces: im dumb
2017-01-17 19:51 Artorias: lul
2017-01-17 19:51 Artorias: is those 1/4 sliders THAT bad?
2017-01-17 19:51 Artorias: ive had another guy mention them, i think they are ok..
2017-01-17 19:51 Artorias: another thing that worries me is the ending
2017-01-17 19:51 Artorias: how did that feel
2017-01-17 19:52 Artorias: dis
2017-01-17 19:52 Artorias: its not how i would conventionally map this thing
2017-01-17 19:52 Artorias: 01:25:305 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-01-17 19:52 Faces: ending was fine
2017-01-17 19:52 Artorias: it almost seems like not following the song
2017-01-17 19:52 Artorias: to me
2017-01-17 19:52 Artorias: anything else "big" standing out as not good?
2017-01-17 19:52 Faces: 01:26:536 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-01-17 19:53 Faces: make it a burst that goes down to the slider and add a note before the slider xd
2017-01-17 19:54 Artorias: noted, thanks, i will remap that part later probably with your comment
2017-01-17 19:54 Artorias: any possibility you try big diff as well?
2017-01-17 19:54 Faces: still have a few more things tho
2017-01-17 19:54 Faces: only 2
2017-01-17 19:54 Faces: 01:06:843 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - plays fine but could just be 1 2 jumps like u did in 00:59:766 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-01-17 19:54 Faces: that's how i would map it
2017-01-17 19:55 Artorias: yeah theres a reason for that, i dont want another 6 star diff in my hands lUL
2017-01-17 19:55 Artorias: spread is killing my ass
2017-01-17 19:55 Faces: o
2017-01-17 19:55 Artorias: if i did jumps there, map would become 5.7 at least i dont want that
2017-01-17 19:56 Faces: also the small jumps u do like 00:29:459 (1,2,3,4,5) - throughout the map look kinda weird
2017-01-17 19:56 Faces: they play fine just an aesthetics thing
2017-01-17 19:56 Artorias: anything else here? i dont wanna sound dismissive of your comments, im screenshooting them for when i change stuff
2017-01-17 19:56 Artorias: sometimes mods/comments overlap in the same regions
2017-01-17 19:57 Faces: weird
2017-01-17 19:57 Artorias: NF?
2017-01-17 19:57 Faces: i usually dont fuck up like that
2017-01-17 19:57 Artorias: its high OD sorry
2017-01-17 19:59 Faces: i can't play any version of this song lmao
2017-01-17 19:59 Artorias: same KEK
2017-01-17 19:59 Artorias: so.. besides the slow section here
2017-01-17 19:59 Artorias: anything you wanna say?
2017-01-17 19:59 Faces: nah
2017-01-17 20:00 Artorias: Ima remap slow part i think, its too .. i dont like it.
2017-01-17 20:00 Faces: the map's good

FuruSatori wrote:

I'm sorry, but this is excessive. In less than 2/10ths of a second, you make the player go almost entirely across the screen, with AR10 and OD10. No, this is not okay. I get that this is 178bpm with a relatively low SV, but that still doesn't mean you should you 10+ DS. I can't even remember seeing that outside of VERY slow songs or TAG maps. This is neither, and considering the sound mapped, it makes no sense when compared to the next combo. So, you made a jump with less than a 1/10th of a second gap that large because...? This is a jump all the way across the screen with a comfy 84ms to react with. There's no possible musical justification for this. This is overmapping. WAY overmapping. There is NOTHING warranting this, considering how tame the riffs here are. This is many things: Overmapped, ugly, and needless. I'm listening to the same instruments as you, and nothing is there that warrants you doing this with such distance. Okay, that part of the song is barely of any note whatsoever. Stop putting in these jumps just because you feel like it. This is just a mess. There's a big difference making compact streams and basically testing the limits of the stack leniency. This looks absolutely terrible. Clean it up a bit. These are very clearly overmapped. Disgustingly so. Same deal. Just because a computer can flawlessly do it does not mean you should slap it everywhere. I am convinced you did this solely to bump up SR. There is never any reason to do crap like this. Nothing musically, especially. Same deal. Same deal. Same deal. This part is so tame, and yet you act like you're mapping speedcore. Stop doing ridiculous things just to raise SR! Same deal. Again, stop taking tame parts and acting like they can justify obscene jumps. This is the simplest chord, and you put a jump clear across the screen for no reason other than the fact that you could. Stop with EVERYTHING like this. Not only are none of these called for, but the whole thing looks like a mess. Same deal. You can at least try and make these presentable. This is REALLY bad. Stop doing this. Make actual patterns instead of deliberate raises of SR. Same deal. This is an awful design. Fix it. You did this for SR. I heard the music. You did this just to increase the SR. Nothing here has any redeeming value. Redo it all. All you did here was put down notes on totally random areas. Gut this. I'm not joking. This is the absolute worst pattern you have EVER done. This is the epitome of overmapping, and you know it! The note progression is not that overly dramatic. This jump is just atrocious. You're rolling through streams, and then you decide a jump with nearly a DS of 12 is needed. Revolting. Congrats, you made a jump with 24.16 DS just because you could. Most troll maps I have don't come close to that. This is vile. Stop doing these things. You did the same thing here. What is wrong with you?
Finally done with that piece of worthless junk. Crap, Mazzerin, when you started making things like Those whom from the Heavens came and The Deceit/The Violation, I actually started getting my hopes up that you were finally going to break out of your terrible Vektor and Apparition stage and start cranking out truly admirable maps. Even though Swamphell raised a red flag or two, I still had high hopes. And then this self-indulgent pretentious abomination gets vomitted onto the site. This is not only your worst map, but possibly the worst map I have ever seen. Why? Others were bad as satire, ignorance, age, or inexperience. You qualify for none of these categories, you have no excuse. Believe me, I have nothing against heavy metal, be it thrash, black, or death metal. And I have no problem with someone in the osu community championing the genre as a flagship of broadening horizons. What I do have a problem with is that you, the person championing it, have absolutely no respect for the music or its structure. At the slightest strum of a guitar or hit of a snare drum, you are more than happy to start disregarding the music and just throwing ugly and pointless jumps where you just make the distance and position anywhere you feel like, no matter how awful the end result is. This vulgar excuse for a map reeks of every stupid and arrogant Mazzerism the community has had to bear witness to: Extreme jumps with no musical reasoning, sky high DS at random times, streams that just decide to jump to some random part of the playing field with no warning, buckshot spread patterns with no cohesive structure, streams that space out to absurd degrees, rampant abuse of SV changes and BPM modification to cover up lazy mapping, slider jumps that clearly are just cases of Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J abuse, and worst of all, using the music genre as your own little shield to justify every little moment of "I map like this because fuck you, I'm Mazzerin" you can stuff in your pathetic and self-subservient maps. Stop using songs as canvases for your abhorrent "artistry", stop using your cult of personality to force your lazy work on others, and stop thinking that maps are good just because a computer designed to perfectly perform with flaw can manage to beat it.
sorry, someone had to do it

chat log

2017-01-18 02:14 Artorias: sec uploading thx
2017-01-18 02:14 FuruSatori: kkkkkk
2017-01-18 02:15 Artorias: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8edi ... S1adWd1QW8
2017-01-18 02:16 FuruSatori: y not puush
2017-01-18 02:17 Artorias: cuz I use sharex
2017-01-18 02:17 FuruSatori: playin
2017-01-18 02:17 Artorias: and it doesnt support file upload
2017-01-18 02:18 FuruSatori: weird it does for me lol
2017-01-18 02:18 Artorias: thx! any comments, anything weird?
2017-01-18 02:19 FuruSatori: good 5*
2017-01-18 02:19 FuruSatori: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2017-01-18 02:19 Artorias: this is first attempt, no remaps or edits at all
2017-01-18 02:19 FuruSatori: well there was that one spinner in the middle that didnt feel right
2017-01-18 02:19 Artorias: oh yeah..
2017-01-18 02:19 Artorias: that was "experimental"
2017-01-18 02:19 FuruSatori: u couldve used notes bc spinner takes a lot of energy out of that little build up
2017-01-18 02:19 Artorias: yeah I will 80-90% remove that spinner
2017-01-18 02:19 FuruSatori: u are not fort so u cant use spinner on places they shouldnt be
2017-01-18 02:19 Artorias: cuz it also has a note in the actual spinner that's not good
2017-01-18 02:20 Artorias: anything beside spinner? anything that felt really weird?
2017-01-18 02:20 FuruSatori: another thing was these weird 1/4 sliders somewhere towards the end
2017-01-18 02:20 Artorias: the last stream?
2017-01-18 02:20 FuruSatori: i expected them to be 1/2 notes and it just sounded weird
2017-01-18 02:20 FuruSatori: lemme find them hold
2017-01-18 02:21 FuruSatori: they start at 01:02:536
2017-01-18 02:21 Artorias: oh yeah
2017-01-18 02:21 Artorias: I'm keeping those
2017-01-18 02:21 Artorias: I like em , and they aren't THAT confusing I think
2017-01-18 02:21 Artorias: what do you think?
2017-01-18 02:21 FuruSatori: idk they feel weird to me
2017-01-18 02:21 Artorias: I tried something "weird" here
2017-01-18 02:21 FuruSatori: i see why u used them but i dont think the small drum sounds justify it idk
2017-01-18 02:21 Artorias: 01:25:305 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,1,2,3,4) -
2017-01-18 02:21 Artorias: is this playing fine?
2017-01-18 02:22 Artorias: seems weird to me at least
2017-01-18 02:22 FuruSatori: ye it felt good
2017-01-18 02:22 FuruSatori: didnt feel any issues
2017-01-18 02:22 Artorias: nice
2017-01-18 02:22 Artorias: um.. can you playtest the higher diff?
2017-01-18 02:22 FuruSatori: one more thing regarding aesthetics i didnt particularly find interest in
2017-01-18 02:22 Artorias: or smth?
2017-01-18 02:22 Artorias: yeah?
2017-01-18 02:23 FuruSatori: section starting at 01:06:843 (1) is a lot of straight sliders that just look ugly imo
2017-01-18 02:23 Artorias: brb dog wants a snack, 1 min afk
2017-01-18 02:23 FuruSatori: kk
2017-01-18 02:23 Artorias: b
2017-01-18 02:23 Artorias: Oh yeah, what I do usually in my maps
2017-01-18 02:24 Artorias: I just use regular sliders
2017-01-18 02:24 Artorias: meaning straights or simple curve
2017-01-18 02:24 Artorias: then when I finalize the structure
2017-01-18 02:24 Artorias: i go and make some neat slider designs
2017-01-18 02:24 Artorias: somewhat more complex
2017-01-18 02:24 FuruSatori: mhm
2017-01-18 02:24 FuruSatori: well idk i think u could do something cooler there but thats just me
2017-01-18 02:24 FuruSatori: good map tho
2017-01-18 02:24 FuruSatori: fun to play
2017-01-18 02:25 Artorias: shit ur playing berserker?
2017-01-18 02:25 Artorias: I didnt see
2017-01-18 02:25 FuruSatori: btw are u using monstratas timing for this?
2017-01-18 02:25 FuruSatori: ye just for fun
2017-01-18 02:25 Artorias: yeah I stole monstrata mapset, i will ask for permission before uploading
2017-01-18 02:26 FuruSatori: u dont need perms, but im just making sure u have the right offset
2017-01-18 02:26 FuruSatori: srry im bad a tstreams lol
2017-01-18 02:26 Artorias: ye this diff needs 2-3K player to test properly and do the streams
2017-01-18 02:27 Artorias: od9.2 streams
2017-01-18 02:28 Artorias: tapx?
2017-01-18 02:28 FuruSatori: tap-x when i cant stream
2017-01-18 02:28 Artorias: kek
2017-01-18 02:28 FuruSatori: im bad with it tho lol as u can see
2017-01-18 02:29 FuruSatori: im used to monstratas map so some timings throw me off lol
2017-01-18 02:29 FuruSatori: but its a good map regardless
2017-01-18 02:29 FuruSatori: lots of potential
2017-01-18 02:29 Artorias: I might go for rank this
2017-01-18 02:29 FuruSatori: GL with it br O
2017-01-18 02:29 Artorias: but i never rank a map before LOL
2017-01-18 02:29 Artorias: is berserker diff bad?
2017-01-18 02:29 FuruSatori: well the map im trying to rank right now is 7* and i havent either
2017-01-18 02:29 FuruSatori: uhhh better than 5* one imo
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: oh sh1t
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: if you want
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: you can playtest this shit
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1164717 M2U - Magnolia]
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: 95% done
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: if u got time
2017-01-18 02:30 FuruSatori: ye
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: I like this song
2017-01-18 02:30 FuruSatori: do i get kudosu for this jk (unless u are willing to )
2017-01-18 02:30 FuruSatori: jk (unless u are willing to )
2017-01-18 02:30 Artorias: yeah sure, when i submit the map
2017-01-18 02:30 FuruSatori: im not a kudosu WHORE
2017-01-18 02:31 Artorias: problem is i need like 3 more days to submit this
2017-01-18 02:31 FuruSatori: noice
2017-01-18 02:31 Artorias: ill friend you so i remember to pm you
2017-01-18 02:33 FuruSatori: <3
2017-01-18 02:33 Artorias: Always loved this song
2017-01-18 02:33 FuruSatori: ur maps r very FUN

fradiger wrote:

on the 5 star diff:

00:03:459 (1,2,3,1) - these sliders in the beginning make your rhythmic choices sound really bland since the hitsounds aren't changing, i'd suggest mapping them as full streams and messing with the hitsounds to bring out the sounds on the white ticks,

Yeah I mapped the entire thing (both diffs) In one go, I'll do hitsounding tomorrow since today I have a couple of things to attend to.
--- Changed the slider thing on the beginning
00:15:459 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - for this section you do a stream, but for the section directly after

00:16:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - you do a different rhythm here, even though both sections have the same rhythm, this is generally something you want to avoid, however the section directly after this one utilizes a pause in the guitar melody to throw in a stream from the percussion
00:18:228 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this is the stream i was talking about with the held note in the guitar
essentially for that section you are changing the instrument your mapping to without having a real reason to 00:15:459 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) is the first instrument (focused on drum) and 00:16:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) is the second instrument (focused on the guitar)
you should change the first stream to follow the guitar for it to fit better

For all the above: Thanks for pointing out the clusterfuck at that 15-22 second section, I kept the two streams on the high guitar notes at 00:18:228 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 00:21:920 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and made everything else consistent. Idk how I missed such a big mistake on rhythm thanks a bunch.



next, this spinner at 00:54:997 (1) is very out of place, there's two distinct hits in the middle of the spinner that you should map that the spinner ignores

LOL that spinner, I half-forgot to remove it or something, I Put it there for shits and giggles because I thought it fit like 5%..


everything else about this difficulty is really good, the jumps are well mapped and the streams flow really well, it's fun too which is a good thing


on the 7 star diff:

this diff was REALLY good, much better than the first one in terms of rhythm, and I only have a few suggestions:

Haha thanks a lot, probably first time I get praise for one of my maps..

00:02:228 (1,2) - these instances of the two sliders are a little tricky to hit when you space them like that (this goes for all the sets in the opening stream) because the stream directly after them sits in a weird spot (example: https://puu.sh/tqela/4df9e80bb9.png&#41;
you could fix this problem by changing the positioning of the stream directly after so it avoids that sharp corner either by making it more parallel or making the corner sharper, since bother are easier to hit than a corner


Trying to fix this, at first instead of the 2 kicksliders I had a stream there, but it felt like too much of the same thing so I changed it. Will see what I can do with them, but problem noted for later remapping. (did something with it, needs further modding and remapping lol)


01:17:305 (1,1,1,1) - I could be hearing this wrong but I don't think this is a 1/3rd pattern, it feels much better when the notes are on the red ticks (like this: https://puu.sh/tqesN/d365346c9f.png&#41;

Changed, thanks, true I don't know why I heard 1/3rd on that part, maybe because I was mapping late at night and had my speakers turned down to low.


I really like this diff, if you want some general advice I think you could push the spacing of some of the streams in the middle of the map to maybe match that of the end of the map

Hmmm.. it's true there's a slightly big difference between the streams in the first 80% of the map compared to the final stream, I personally think that's OK, but I see where you're coming from.
To be honest If I was going to change anything about the streams in the diff I would make the final stream less spaced by 0.1-0.2 everywhere.

also, 01:09:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - this stream is really well mapped.

haha o/ !!

Musty wrote:

hi

17:01 Artorias: um sorry
17:01 Artorias: but what does NM mean in modreqs?
17:01 Musty: normal mod :p
17:01 Artorias: oh k
17:04 Artorias: if I mod this map
17:04 *Artorias is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1028498 Shoujo Byou - Gareki no Shuuon [Star]] [color=#FF0000]<-- MOD THIS[/color]
17:04 Artorias: can you testplay my TV size? :P
17:04 Musty: sure lol
17:04 Artorias: I'll mod anyway cuz i like the song
17:04 Artorias: but lol nice
17:04 Musty: the song is pretty :ok_hand:
17:04 Artorias: sec uploading
17:04 Artorias: I like that cliche whispering opening to that song
17:05 *Artorias is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183848 9mm Parabellum Bullet - Inferno] [color=#FF0000](and this)[/color]
17:05 Musty: inferno 
17:05 Musty: :o
17:06 Artorias: dont worry its not terribad map lol
17:13 Musty:  fuck i have to warmup XD
17:15 Artorias: same tbh
17:15 *Artorias is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1028498 Shoujo Byou - Gareki no Shuuon [Star]]
17:15 Artorias: Lul
17:15 Artorias: too many shitmisses
17:18 Artorias: done testplaying ur mep
17:18 Artorias: good shit, there were a FEW shit i didn't sighread that well and missed on some weird stream insertions
17:18 Artorias: any chance u play my map again so i can spec or send me replay?
17:18 Musty: ya
17:18 Musty: im just going to replay it
17:18 Musty: hope ill be warmed up now lol
17:19 Artorias: kek
17:20 Musty: ok i wasnt warmed up xD
17:20 Musty: hope it was fine nonetheless
17:20 Artorias: dat warmup
17:20 Musty: the map is actually pretty cool though
17:20 Artorias: yep
17:21 Artorias: anything feel wrong ?
17:21 Artorias: just from sightread stuff
17:21 Musty: 01:25:613 (1,2,1) -[color=#40BF00]maybe later, I can't find anything better to do atm[/color]
17:21 Musty: the last 1
17:21 Musty: idk it felt like it was awkward to have a note below the stream
17:22 Artorias: the tapping is fine there tho?
17:22 Artorias: ill try to not overlap the stream
17:22 Musty: yeah it is
17:22 Artorias: how's the beginning?
17:22 Artorias: the worst part
17:22 Musty: actually plays well
17:22 Artorias: the jumps?
17:22 Musty: less awkward than monstrata's to be honest lol
17:23 Artorias: i never mapped srs anything before, and i did this in 2 hours yesterday night, also another 2hours for the 5.5 extra
17:23 Artorias: can this go for rank
17:23 Artorias: or is it not that good
17:23 Musty: 00:26:382 (6) - this note feels a bit "stuck" - [color=#40BF00]FIXED[/color]
17:23 Musty: i think this can totally go for rank
17:23 Artorias: yeah that note was kinda weird, lol
17:24 Musty: i think you should place the 6 somewhere else :p
17:24 Artorias: noice, your map is really good too tbh, but i have some problems with itl, i'll do the mod
17:24 Musty: alright
17:24 Artorias: nothing too bad, some weird stuff like 2-3 times in the map
17:24 Musty: oh?
17:24 Artorias: :P
17:25 Artorias: hey dont fucking pressure me, i am new mapper
17:25 Artorias: i once tried to mod a fucking KTGSTER map
17:25 Artorias: that didn't go as planned tbh
17:25 Musty: im not haha
17:25 Musty: just curious about what u found :D
17:25 Artorias: yo since you are bored
17:25 Artorias: i know you are
17:25 Artorias: like fcking playtest my extra diff as well
17:25 Artorias: lol
17:25 Musty: sure
17:28 Musty: eh the end was a bit weird to play though xD
17:28 Artorias: yeah its "unconventional" LOL
17:28 Artorias: the last last part right?
17:28 Musty: 01:25:920 (1) - this note was a bit "extra" to tap - [color=#40BF00]FIXED[/color]
17:28 Artorias: does it work
17:28 Musty: it doesnt feel alright to tap it i dunno why lol
17:28 Artorias: if i get this
17:28 Artorias: 01:25:613 (1) -
17:28 Artorias: remove that note
17:29 Artorias: and make this 1 tick bigger
17:29 Musty: yeah
17:29 Musty: works better
17:29 Artorias: ok done
17:29 Artorias: btw i can give you KD for this if you want
17:29 Artorias: just post some random meme on the map and ill post the log as reply
17:29 Musty: i can post the log aswell if u want :p

fastmarkus wrote:

Are you going to get this set ranked? If yes, you'd probably need a lower difficulty, wouldn't you?

Anyway, tried to find stuff on the 4* diff and couldn't.


PS: don't forget to fix the tags lol

Good map - but is it better than 2016's best map? Good luck on it